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25 Sep 2018 21:49:57
Toronto Trades
Marincin

San Jose Trades
Heed

Thoughts ?

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25 Sep 2018 22:06:28
no from SJ. Heed was over point a game as a Dman in the AHL a season ago. He may never match that but Marincin isn’t near enough to justify giving up the chance it translates to the NHL.

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25 Sep 2018 23:11:15
If Heed is really bad it is fair.

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26 Sep 2018 00:20:38
Sureeeee.

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25 Sep 2018 20:41:51
to Philadelphia
Ritchie

to Anaheim
Simmonds

The Flyers get a player who hasn't proven themselves yet but has the pedigree to really break out soon, whereas the Ducks get a year of a very inexpensive and useful player and the chance to re-sign him. high risk, high reward for both teams.

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26 Sep 2018 00:20:49
Come on man .

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25 Sep 2018 20:39:51
To Arizona:
Brown, 2020 2nd, Rasanen, Sparks
To Leafs:
Fisher, 2020 3rd

Fair?

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25 Sep 2018 22:15:02
Arizona says no way value wise. and leafs don’t need a RW. Nylander will sign and still have Marner, Kapanen, Brown. Plus guys that are close but not quite ready like Bracco, Moore etc. And depth guys like Cracknell and Jooris they signed. Don’t need to be spending assets on it. This is the best leaf team on paper in a generation. Only glaring weak spot is RHD. If you’re not improving that, then no point.

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26 Sep 2018 00:58:40
@Jim
If you didn't realize the leafs do this for cap space, they have to sign a bunch of players next year so every dollar helps.
I understand where your coming from on value though, and maybe Arizona takes out the third just to make this a little more even.
Also, Brown is included in this trade, this is to upgrade Kadri's right side, so basically Brown in being replaced by Fisher and the right side stays the same.
Also, I think your way undervaluing the second round pick, 6'7 Rasanen and Sparks, a goalie with an awesome save% last year in the AHL that Arizona could use to replace Kuemper, and who may have a shot at the starting role if he continues o improve after Raanta's contract is up.

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26 Sep 2018 01:09:28
If you really don't think Rasanen has that much value, then what about Durzi instead of him and Arizona takes out their pick, now is it fair?

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25 Sep 2018 12:04:37
Just a thought
Leafs Flyers trade.

Nylander for Simmonds

My thoughts are Leafs lack grit and toughness up front. In Simmonds Leafs get an established vet who isn't affraid to drop the gloves plays power play and can move up and down the lineuo and produces offence.

Flyers get a speedy winger who has great vision and soft hands, plays the powerplay.

I know Simmonds only has 1 year left. This deal is only done if an extension 4-5 years can be reached at an average salary of between 5.5- 6.75 similar to whar Dubas is trying to sign Nylander for.

Thoughts.

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25 Sep 2018 13:26:08
big fan of Simmonds and what he can bring, but no thanks. If it was that type of player, but in the same age range as Nylander, like M. Tkachuk, you could probably sell me on it. And if they’re unwilling to go above $6.5 mill for Nylander from age 22-29/ 30, not a chance they’re going to commit long term at the same money for a 30 year old who plays a rougher game and has harder miles on the body. For this to make sense for the leafs, Simmonds would have to be willing to sign an extension at the same money he’s making now (less than $4 mill) which he will never do, and should never do, he’s earned a nice raise for himself.

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25 Sep 2018 13:38:48
Difference is, Simmonds is proven, at 6.5 on a 4 year deal its at a price where it could be moved. Plus it wouldn't run into his late 30s but mid 30s and would essentially be replacing Marleau's contract after this season.

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25 Sep 2018 15:47:47
Well Marleau has another year after this season at $6.25mill too. Like I said, I like Simmonds and I like your idea of adding that type of player, I just don’t think Nylander is the guy you trade to acquire grit (unless you’re getting the player for his entire prime like Tkachuk) . Leafs have the leverage with Nylander and unless there’s a good upgrade at RHD available, just let him sit.

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25 Sep 2018 17:15:21
Nylander had very little leverage before camp started, and with how well Ennis has played with Matthews, he has less. Not saying Ennis can replace Nylander, or that Dubas and Babcock are happy with that trade off lol but if matthews looked bad or had no chemistry with whoever played in Nylanders spot, it could force them to want Willy back quicker and pay more. But when a guy that is playing for league minimum and had recently been bought out is showing chemistry with Matthews and putting up numbers on his wing, it almost makes it look like Nylander isn’t as good as his numbers showed. I don’t believe that, but there is a case to be made, especially by management that they can put anyone with Matthews and get production.

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25 Sep 2018 17:48:21
This is bad
Cmon Nylander for a 30 yrs aging top 6.

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25 Sep 2018 18:34:29
Jim nailed it. I love Simmonds and I think the leafs need some physicality in the lineup, but not for a 22 year old stud.

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25 Sep 2018 20:40:34
Nylander will only go for an upgrade on defense.

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25 Sep 2018 20:40:36
Nylander litterly out produced Simmonds.

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25 Sep 2018 23:29:04
There would have to be an add from Philly. At very least a 2nd coming with Simmonds.
I do feel that Simmonds is the type of player that would be great for the Leafs. Someone with a bit of an edge. However, as some of the Leafs fans have stated, If Nylander was to go, Defense is the position that would be coveted.

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24 Sep 2018 22:29:58
If Bobrovsky for some reason gets traded, I think St. Louis would have a ton of interest, they lost Hutton and Allen may start the season on the IR, so it could be smart for them, with all of their forward depth they could very much do it.

To St.Louis:
Bobrovsky, Milano
To Columbus:
Steen, Allen, conditional 2021 2nd (turns into 2021 first if Bobrovsky re-signs), Barbashev

Just a thought, probably not going to happen but may as well speculate, Korpisalo may be ready for the starting role anyway

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25 Sep 2018 03:54:02
Take out Milano and Barbashev and add Kyrou from St. Louis, that makes it more fair.

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25 Sep 2018 05:49:03
I was going to say idk why Columbus would accept that tbh.

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25 Sep 2018 12:56:19
Goalie Bobbi's considered by many the best goalie in the league. It will take more than and older winger with a high price tag in Steen, Mediocre goalie in Allen and just a 2nd with the condition.

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25 Sep 2018 17:12:28
Bobs is a great goalie. But he is not worth losing Kyrou, Thomas ect for him. I also agree that steen, Allen, and 2nd do not get you bob.

I don't think a trade like this can work. The blues no longer have cap dump type players and would be losing core players plus highend prospects for a guy they won't be able to afford to resign next year. At this time it is sink or swim with allen. Blues already have three young goalies (Husso, Binnginton, Fitzpatrick) that had fantastic seasons last year. With husso leading the pack and already have a great preseason he will be the first call up to back up Chad Johnson if allen can't handle it.

The blues added much needed offense with ROR, Perron, Maroon and rookies contributing like Thomas/ kyrou. The defense is going to get better with Dunn and Edds parayko hitting their primes, Another year of petro. With that fabbri will be returning. So if allen can figure it out we should be fine

sorry for the rant. Long story short, there is not a trade to be made. Blues cap will not allow it and loss of great ELC rookies on the cheap contracts will be needed with some journey men and vets getting raises.

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25 Sep 2018 17:28:31
If it’s trade deadline and he is for sure not coming back, they will take whatever. Remember Bishop being dealt from TB to LA at the deadline when he wasn’t coming back? I know Bob is better than bishop, but was still Looked at as a top 5 goalie by a lot of people and got next to nothing in a similar situation.

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24 Sep 2018 20:03:29
Calgary: Bennett

Islanders: Ho-Sang.

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24 Sep 2018 21:59:51
Not terrible. Bennett is a safer player. He will play in the NHL in some capacity for sure. Whether he puts it together and starts scoring like he should, or be a more specialized penalty killer bottom 6. HoSang on the other hand is a riskier pick. Kinda reminds me of rob Schremp. All the skill in the world but not the work ethic or attitude to succeed maybe. However if you trade a bottom 6 guy for HoSang and he grows up, could be a steal.

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25 Sep 2018 01:30:45
Interesting. I think NYI says yes. And Calgary decides if Jankowski can be a solid third line center and if Ho/ Sang would for with Tkuchuk and Backlund or with Jankowski.
I think his speed and skill with Tkuchuk and Backlund could be pretty good. Then Frolik on a third line with Jamkowski. Solid third. Johny Mono Lindholm as a top line. Interesting.

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25 Sep 2018 15:32:42
I like the deal, gives both players a change of scenery and maybe will be good for both players, But I think NYI would want more as I feel the new management looks highly on Ho Sang and want to give him a chance to prove himself.

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25 Sep 2018 16:23:39
Pkane well ho sang was just recently cut by islanders so I don’t quite think they are too high on him yet, but with saying that I also read he did have a good camp. But Bennett like said before is a sure lock to play top 6 for an nhl team so while ho sang might have more offensive potential, Bennett is atleat nhl caliber now so I don’t think islanders would want more.

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25 Sep 2018 18:39:31
There’s the story of Lou with Kadri in Toronto that could apply. He was having off ice issues and had been suspended by his own management and apparently Lou had a Dinner with Naz and his dad. Kinda laid everything out, saying it’s sink or swim time, and it’s last shot to grow up and be a part of the core. He did and next off season was rewarded with the 6 year deal that he has outproduced each year. So maybe Lou needs to do a similar type thing with HoSang before trading him for pennies on the dollar, because we would not have got a ton for Kadri at that point and if the trade was the wake up call he needed and he was scoring 30+ goals for another team while we got very little back, it would sting.

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24 Sep 2018 18:03:46
Tor w. Nylander

Van. C. Tanev + B. Sutter.

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24 Sep 2018 18:17:56
More like

Tor nylander

Canucks virtanen tanev.

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24 Sep 2018 18:30:10
Tanev is the type of Dman that we could use but value wise doesn’t come close to Nylander. And leafs with tavares at $11 mill, Matthews will be the same or more and Kadri at $4.5 we couldn’t have $4.3mill in a fourth line centre for 3 more years. Value isn’t there and neither is cap space or player need.

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24 Sep 2018 20:43:19
Lol were trying to save money by tradibg Nylander not taking on dead weight Sutter.

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25 Sep 2018 01:31:20
Lol. Toronto laughs at both the above proposals.

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25 Sep 2018 15:33:06
I agree with Jim Benning and Unbiased Jim's feedback. Makes no sense for toronto to take on that much salary with contract re-ups coming up for the big boys. maybe replace sutter with virtanen and 2nd or 3rd.

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24 Sep 2018 15:29:13
Calgary - Michael Stone + Sam Bennett
Ottawa - 2019 3rd Round Pick + 2020 2nd Round Pick

Makes room for a younger players to play for the flames and sheds cap and gives Ottawa a positional need on D and reunites the Stone brothers. Bennett is more like a low risk high reward at this point.

Gaudreau - Monahan - Neal
Tkachuk - Backlund - Czarnik
Dube - Jankowski - Lindholm
Frolik - Ryan - Foo

Giordano - Brodie
Hanifin - Hamonic
Kulak - Andersson

Smith
Gillies

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24 Sep 2018 16:56:38
The Flames aren't trading Bennet for draft picks. Jeez. If they were to shop him, which I don't think they are or should, ot would probably be a one for one swap to try and stay competitive. Not for a draft pick.

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25 Sep 2018 15:34:49
ottawa is rebuilding, why would they want to give away picks?

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24 Sep 2018 08:37:29
Three Way Trade

TOR: William Nylander
CGY: TJ Brodie + Mark Jankowski
MTL: Victor Mete

Flames get Nylander
Leafs get Brodie + Mete
Canadiens get Jankowski


Upgrades :
Flames -
Gaudreau - Monahan - Neal
Tkachuk - Nylander - Czarnik
Dube - Backlund - Lindholm
Frolik - Ryan - Bennett

Leafs -
Morgan Rielly - TJ Brodie
Victor Mete - Nikita Zaitsev
Jake Gardiner - Ron Hainsey / Connor Carrick

Canadiens -
Drouin - Kotkaniemi - Gallagher
Tatar - Jankowski - Byron
Domi - Danault - Lehkonen
Hudon - Plekanec - Armia

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24 Sep 2018 15:43:05
Completely unbelievable. Toronto should just give Calgary Nylander with no return. Why should they get anything back in return?

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24 Sep 2018 17:20:36
Brutal for Toronto.

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25 Sep 2018 14:15:24
I like this trade for the Habs. Not sure how Leaf fans will feel about.

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25 Sep 2018 15:35:18
thunder turkey, so mete and brodie is no return now?

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25 Sep 2018 17:51:33
No from mtl
Mete is the only good LHD Mtl has
Fair value wise but Habs like Meyer
Mete like's habs.

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23 Sep 2018 17:15:57
Obviously not realistic based on some cap stuff but here we go.

WPG: Scheifele ($6.125M)
EDM: McDavid ($12.5M)

With Scheifele half the price of McDavid I think this would be intriguing for the Oilers. Scheifele is an elite #1 Center and McDavid is a generational #1 Center. I think the Oilers would do this trade and the Jets would too if they could afford him under the cap. Thoughts?

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23 Sep 2018 17:32:44
Oilers retain %50 on McDavid and add Bouchard, 2019 1st, 2020 1st and Mcloed. And Jets just add Perreault to even it out.
Good post.

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23 Sep 2018 18:14:34
Not even sure why people post trades with McDavid. I guess, the big question is. who is coming back from Winnipeg. Trouba.? A first. . at the end of the deal. do the Oilers even save any money, after the other peices coming back?

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23 Sep 2018 18:16:02
I can’t tell if this is a troll or is dead serious.

If its a troll, not too impressive, still better than Rambo.

If its serious. Well. Uh. Well. Uh. Lol.

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23 Sep 2018 18:54:14
Say what you want but Schifele was battling in the conference finals while McDavid was out golfing. 1 player can’t do it all like you oilers fans think. I’ll take Mackinnon+ Schifele over McDavid anyday.

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23 Sep 2018 19:00:48
What tf was the point of this post lol.

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23 Sep 2018 20:32:01
Every team would want McDavid but many would not want his contract as it limits what a team can pay for a supporting cast. Moot point as the Oilers will not be trading McD in the near future.

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23 Sep 2018 22:36:29
Mcdavid at 12.5 I’m pretty sure all 30 other teams would want that lol.

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23 Sep 2018 22:37:06
But yes if they don’t got the cap room then they can’t have him ^.

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24 Sep 2018 00:08:07
absolutely brilliant post. this is why I go on this site. personally I'd trade mcdavid for milan lucic but they're already on the same team so sadly it wouldn't work.

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24 Sep 2018 15:44:42
I wouldn’t think the jets would have to give up that much. I mean it’s a big contract they’re taking back and oilers do need a defenseman so maybe Myers and a 4th. love the post a lot of thought went into this!

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24 Sep 2018 16:57:30
Drop the pick on Myers and Oilers would have to add to McDavid.

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24 Sep 2018 17:43:44
Normal fans

Schifele and Liane for McDavid and Lucic

= no from Winnipeg but fair trade

Oilers fans-

Liane, Schifele, Trouba, Helleybuck, Ehlers And Connor for McDavid, Lucic, Talbot and Sekera

= huge no from oilers McDavid is untouchable as he’ll lead the oilers to multiple cups

Next season- Winnipeg makes conference finals oilers miss playoffs.

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24 Sep 2018 19:18:23
I’ve made the statement before on here that Winnipeg should want about as much for scheifele in a trade as Edmonton would want for Mcdavid because he’s 80% of the player signed long term for 45% of the money. However I would never suggest oilers actually trade mcdavid lol.

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24 Sep 2018 19:19:49
My thinking was if a team approached the oilers and asked what it would take to get mcdavid. Oilers name the package. That team says forget it and calls jets instead, the package shouldn’t be a whole lot less if I’m jets management.

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