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27 Jan 2012 23:07:26
TOR: Wolski

NYR: Komisarek, 5th round draft-pick

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27 Jan 2012 23:06:18
KINGS-
Schenn,Macarthur,Lombardi,Connolly,4th/5th round pick if needed

LEAFS-
Richards,Brown

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27 Jan 2012 22:46:45
perry for nash

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27 Jan 2012 22:35:16
tor: gorboski
kadri

for

cbj: jeff carter

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27 Jan 2012 21:47:09
To Chicago: Tuomu Ruutu

To Carolina: Michael Frolik, 3rd round pick

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27 Jan 2012 21:38:55
I don't think these are that realistic, but whatever

TOR: Clowe

SJ: Grabovski,3rd,Holzer
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TOR: Ruutu

CAR: MacArthur, Blacker, 3rd
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TOR: Clutterbuck

MIN: Aulie, Lombardi, Boyce

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I like it. It adds size and strength to protect kessel

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Awful trades for leafs,

Tor: Clowe

SJ: Holzer, 2 round-pick, d'amigo

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27 Jan 2012 21:38:47
ellerby for gill

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Add Nokolienen to the deal


-#RealisticHabsFan

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27 Jan 2012 21:35:38
wilson sutter for moen subban

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27 Jan 2012 21:31:31
Leafs: Richards

Kings: Grabovski, 2nd round pick

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I wish

-Fuelled by LEAFS FANS

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27 Jan 2012 21:20:38
Well I've read the postings, some are realistic, some aren't. There is only one thing certain, leafs fans have a tendency to overvalue their players!

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27 Jan 2012 21:17:43
The Canucks need a tough guy, a big d-man, and a new back up goalie

Vancouver gets - Ryan Getzlaf and Sheldon Brookbank

Anaheim gets - Kesler & Raymond

and

Vancouver gets - Derek Roy, Marc-Andre Gragani, Jhonas Enroth

Buffalo gets - Cory Schneider, Keith Ballard, Jordan Schroeder, Nick Jensen, 5thrddp

Vancouver gets - Ryan Getzlaf, Sheldon Brookbank, Derek Roy, Marc-Andre Gragani, Jhonas Enroth

Vancouver gives up - Ryan Kesler, Mason Raymond, Cory Schneider, Keith Ballard, Jordan Schroeder, Nick Jensen, 5th rd dp

decently close actually.

No haters.

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Im not hating, but i do find these proposals unrealistic

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27 Jan 2012 21:05:22
tor: alie
3th round pick

for

phi: brayden schenn

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27 Jan 2012 20:36:32
tor: schenn
gorboski
kuliemin
2th round pick

for

cbj: jeff carter
rick nash

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Yes that would take Balls. Do it Brian.

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No way bud...the cap hit on this is defntly notfeasible for the leafs

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There's that Gorboski guy again...lol

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27 Jan 2012 20:21:03
Source: Team 1040
They were talking about a possible trade between Anaheim and Vancouver.
To Van: Perry

To Ana: Raymond, Ballard, Schneider

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27 Jan 2012 20:08:03
Tor: Nash and a 6th dp

Cbj: Grabovski, Gunnerson, Kadri, Rynnas, and a conditional 1st dp if Grabovski doesn't resign

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Throw in kessel and lupul too

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Too much from Leafs

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27 Jan 2012 20:03:43
rumours about ryan clowe to toronto is heating up, also still going with TB about Malone too, Parise can be a Leaf also. Burke should try to trade for them all, would be a great 2012.

Parise for Schenn, Kadri, and a 1st rounder

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Clowe is overated
parise would be worth schenn/aulie and kadri/ 1st thats it

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Clowe is perfect for the leafs OVERATED

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27 Jan 2012 19:58:53
To Carolina: Kulemin
2nd round pick

To Toronto: Ruutu

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Ruutu is f***ing garbage!!

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27 Jan 2012 19:47:20
tor: gustavsson

for

edm:1st round pick

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Why would EDM trade their first round pick? It's going to end up being a top 5 pick.....

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This is funnier than watching old people rap. Thank you for giving me my daily chuckle.

-Dubs

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27 Jan 2012 19:08:56
To toronto : rick nash, ryan johansen

To columbus : schenn, grabovski, kadri, aulie, scrivens.

Gives toronto a 35+ goal power forward and a big center who is gonna blow up in a couple seasons.

Columbus gets help right now but also get alot for the future.

*** THIS JUST IN!! *** my sources are telling me hawky is in fact glenn healy's online alias. Seriously man, shouldnt you be on top of a 20 story building somewhere?

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Yeah and maybe I'm Kelly Hrudey. Oh wait, I'm an oilers fan...

-Dubs

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If Hawky is anybody it's Richard Cloutier.

-Dubs

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If I was Glenn Healy, I would be...

-Hawky

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Hawkys ill!

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27 Jan 2012 19:04:47
I heard recentely this morning that the leafs could be interested in ryan clowe. although i believe the leafs need a center more than a winger clowe can be a great addition to the leafs. he won't cost the farm thats for sure. i think a line consisting of kulemin grabovski and clowe can be very good, but i wonder whats the cost. as a leafs fan i prefer joe pavelski over clowe but i believe getting pavelksi is highly unlikely.

-Realistic Leafs Fan

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27 Jan 2012 18:58:49
NJ has to drop salary before the deadline. They have a team with potential that do not need to go into rebuild mode. Easiest and most likely trade is a Parise deal that sends him to a team he will resign with. I know everyone has heard Parise has interest in Toronto, and honestly they can make this deal easier than other teams anyways so here it goes...

To Toronto: Parise (signs 5 year deal with TO for 5.4m/yr), MIN prospect

To NJ: TOR 1st 2012, Minnesota 1st 2012, T Bozak
To MIN: Luke Schenn, M Komiserik

This trade gives TO the center they need while freeing up lots of cap for aulie and gunnerson to sign new deals. NJ gets rid of cap while ensuring they have picks for next year to help build their future. Min has the cap space to add defensive depth and is a one of the few teams that would like some size on D. Trade works for these teams and makes the future look a lot brighter for all of them.

TROB

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Parise plays left wing

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Parise can get a lot more money that $5.4 a year!

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A 1st, Schenn, and Bozak, I don't think so

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Parise will command more then that 5.4 lol
try 6-7 milly

also hes not a center hes a lw

also minn gets schenn and komi for a 1st?

intresing post

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Min gets nothing from jersey yet gives them a 1st?

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27 Jan 2012 18:34:38
tampa has very serious interest in Jack Johnson, TB also is interested in Rick Nash, so here are my proposals

to LA: C.Ashton, 2nd + 3rd round pick
to TB: J.Johnson

to TB: Rick Nash
to CBJ: T.Purcell, M.Ohlund, D.Tokarski, 2nd round pick

to Pittsburgh: R.Malone
to TB: 1st round pick 2012 OR 2nd round pick + 3rd round / prospect

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Jack Johnson sucks defensively, he is almost -100 in his career. No way he is ever going to be a plus player. Last thing that the Lightning needs right now.

Wright Winger

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Hhahhaaahhahaahaha

ya tb wants to spend 25 million on stammer nash and vinny alone??

the ducks big 3 is failing ,
stammer = perry
getzlaf>>>>>vinny
b ryan < nash

why spend double what they are to be in a even worse position (no goalie no defence)
id say hiller and the ducks d is beter then tbs

this would be an exciting pp but would not be a contender without any balance

these guys wil play 20 min a night so the other 40 min would be ...........
they need a goalie and some credible D

also hedmen is not a bust he has impressed me in certain areas even on a bad year

Dr Feelgood

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27 Jan 2012 18:33:10
To Toronto Richards

To LA Kullimen,Schenn,1st

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Leafs give up too much. Take out Kulemin, put in a decent prospect, maybe.

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27 Jan 2012 18:32:53
To Toronto: Wilson, 3th rounder.
To Nashville: Kadri , 2nd rounder.

How about it guys?

Wright Winger

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Doesn't make sense for Nashville...

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27 Jan 2012 18:01:21
Columbus owner McConnel says that most likely Steve Mason will not be returning to the columbus blue Jackets next year. The Owner said this to nhl.com

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27 Jan 2012 17:45:56
I posted this trade suggestion below.

TOR: Wilson, 1st

NASH: Connolly, MacArthur, D'Amigo

then closer to the deadline, if the Islanders are too far out.

TOR: Parenteau

NYI: Komisarek, 1st (Nashville), 4th (Tor)

Nashville may be looking at a short window to make an impact in the playoffs, given the status of Weber and Suter. Wilson is young with lots of upside but Connolly and MacArthur can be the offensive boost the team needs to bring some depth down the stretch. Given with teams typically pay for rental and playoff boost players, the trade value is right on par. (27 pts v. 48 pts).

The Islanders will not make the playoffs. They may also need a player to help get them to the cap floor over the next season or two(given they are losing a few UFAs/DiPietro possible retirement). Komisarek can serve a duel purpose. He is over paid, but he is a good shut down d-man and they can cut him lose in 2 seasons. Parenteau is a UFA at seasons end so they can milk some value out of him. The draft picks balance the trade. Pretty decent for a rental player.

Toronto gains secondary scoring and gets younger at the same time. The team also cuts some salary opening the possibility to another move or possibly an off-season move or two. Connolly and MacArthur could maybe be traded for an older veteran with better offensive production, but Wilson is young and they can work with him long term. Parenteau will become the teams 3rd highest scorer.

Overall i think it's good value.

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I'm find with the first trade for Wilson if Nashville would go for it. The second I'd like to see Komisarek - Frattin or Kadri for Okposo.

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How about

TOR: Rick Nash, 2nd Round pick 2012

NASH: Schenn, Grabovski,Kadri,1st Round pick 2012

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^ IMO that's a good trade value for Nash

However, could you get something better/cheaper for the same price?

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^"However, could you get something better/cheaper at the same price?".

Dude, that makes no sense.

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27 Jan 2012 17:25:43
To Toronto: Mike Richards & Dustin Penner

To LA: Mikhail Grabovski, Clarke MacArthur, Nazem Kadri, Carl Gunnerson and a 2RD


Toronto gets the number 1 center and big forward they are after. LA gets a couple of solid players to continue their playoff push as well as a prospect and out of a very long contract. I know Burke doesn't like these deals, but you have to think he might change his stance for a heart and soul guy like Richards. Also, he was very interested in richards but Philly didn't want to trade him to the same conference. What do you guys think?

CAZ

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Penner is a dud and why would LA get rid of Richards. There were issues in Philli with him.

Not a good deal at all

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Too much for TO to give up....not because any of those players is better than Richards (Grabo isn't far behind) but TO gives up 77 points of production off their offense for 37 points of production....

In the long run it may benefit TO, but for what its worth now absolutely not....how about this:

Change TOR pick to a 1st...change Kopitar to Richards...LA could then flip the 1st and Kadri along with some of their assets to CBJ for Carter

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Don't need penner and mike richards isn't really the 1st line center we need anyway.

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Mike Richards is exactly the center Toronto needs. Remeber Doug Gilmour. Heart and soul and can play. With Kessel and Lupul he would be amazing and also give them grit and toghness down the middle. when he is on, Richards could be one of the best all around centers in the league. As far as Penner goes, Toronto would have to take back something to even get LA to make this trade

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As a Leaf fan i will say this to my other fellow Leaf fans: Let's move on from the Mats Sundin days...When i hear a discussion about a "big center", i know everyone out there is envisioning the Leafs top line of Lupul, Kessel and Center X (6'5, 230lbs, wearing #13)....My point is, talent is talent...when he is healthy, Sidney Crosby is the best center, and the best player in the league and he is 6'1 200 lbs...size doesn't always matter (HA HA HA)....with this said the Leafs have plenty of smaller skilled centers...so a big body is a good thing, but someone like Richards(Mike or Brad) would be a boost for the team...

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Sorry richards is a winer period.

That is not the type you want in the dressing room

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Richard's may actually fit he could easily use his hitting to clear room for kessel and co, and he is quite consistent in his points, will proabaly take alot to let him go thou

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Ya he might fit the role but he left philly for being a cancer in the dressing room..you really think that would go over well with Dion? i highly doubt it...he works as the player but not the person...they either need a big centre who is a quiete dressing room guy who has passion for the game or ( much more likely scenario ) adds good leadership like a getzlaf or someone

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27 Jan 2012 17:25:15
Just read this out of Philadelphia

Toronto sends
Cody Franson and Graboski
To Philladelphia
for Braden Schenn some prospect and maybe a 2nd rounder

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Franson and Grabo for Schenn? No. That equals Philly sending us Coutourier and JVR for Schenn.

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Way too much for schenn

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Philli needs defensive help and i know franson is hot on appx 15 teams lists right. I am not sure Philli wants to trade Braden though.

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Grabovski, Franson

B.Schenn and Voracek

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If the prospect is Sean Couturier

Very nice deal

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Cant see 2 teams that could meet in the 1st round of the playoffs making a big deal

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27 Jan 2012 16:03:01
To Phoenix: Grabovski, 3rd rounder
To Toronto: Doan, Viktor Tikhonov

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.... just Add Schenn and you can get both Yandle and O - E - L ..... sign: Toronto fans who is not over rating toronto players !! ; )

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^ I can't tell if your comment is sarcastic...the first part is, but the trade isn't bad at all...

Doan is a UFA, he has less points than Gabovski, and he's 8 years older...if Doan won't be back next season this is an over payment by TO....

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27 Jan 2012 12:46:36
Three way deal in the works

To Toronto David Legwand
To Anahiem Weber and Suter
To Nashville Getzlaf, Schenn and Aulie

Nashville cant sign Weber and Suter and Anahiem is in dire straits for defencman and are heavly waited in forwrads. Nashville needs to unload Salaries and need good younhe defencman. Leafs get there big power centre

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So we (Toronto) give up Schenn and Aulie for David legwand..... You're fried. Brutal trade

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I heard the trade was actually more like this:

ANA: Weber, Suter, Wilson
NAS: Selanne, Orr, Brookbank, Komisarek
TOR: Getzlaf, Perry, Ryan

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Wow, sucks to be Nashville. LOL

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I know...they think they will unlock some of Orr's latent offensive potential....

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Seriously?? Media Day for the all star break? c'mon. gimme a break .

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BOO to the fans of Ottawa for being so classless last night. It was funny in the beginning but after an hour an a half of boos, overrated comments and leafs suck... it was tiresome. Nice for a national tv audience to see how truly ignorant sens fans are. NO CLASS Sen fans!
Go Leafs Go!

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Or to see how much people actually hate the leafs

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I was disgusted how Ottawa fans were calling out Belak when Lupul was going to pick a player.
Totally classless from the Ottawa fans

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I agree on the Belak note. He was a classy guy that never shown disrespect to any team. He played his game and he played it well. Senators are a good, surprising team this year and good for them. Most people didn't even believe they had a sniff of the playoffs. But to put down a player that has recently died? That just upsets me from a whole new level. However, on a different note, good job by Lupul on staying positive, smiling and giving a few good jokes. If I was up there, I probably would have went haywire.

Dr. Leaf

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Deal in the works? Where? On your xBox?

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SENS and HAB fans suck. CLASSLESS IS RIGHT! Only celebration your cities will ever have, disrespectful tasteless.
Booooooooooooooooo!!!

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Sens swedes and canucks vs bruins slovacks and leafs I hope this makes 4 an eventfull allstar game

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Pull the instigator rule and rop the puck

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Wow i guess last night was ottawas chance to boo the leafs it almost sounded like a leaf and sens game in ottawa when alice (alfie) has the puck on his stick.

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Your Xbox would call the cops on u for trying this trade

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Sooo ANA gives up getzlaf for weber and suter! bud give ur head a shake....btw ive heard about tons of 3 way deals from this site for years and guess what...they dont happen!

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27 Jan 2012 06:32:11
I think Burke should consider trading Connolly, he looks lost and just seems to be floating. Just like Burke saw Versteeg didn't work out...the same should be for Connolly, a player making 4.25 mil and doing nothing...doesn't make sense. Should be traded for a DP and resign Grabovski.

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^ thats typical when a player plays for toronto. its a sign they want out. i don't blame them

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Connolly is ok. Probably not what Burke foresaw tho. Not sure what he'd get given Connolly's season. Maybe a 3rd? I'd sign Grabovski again tho. I don't understand the hate for him from Leafs fans....

-Hawky

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What about liles, phaneuf, kessel, lupul ^^^

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As a leafs fan i love Grabovski would not let this guy go. i wouldn't have signed Connolly in the first place.

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Burke couldn't see that when he signed Connolly for almost 10 million over 2 seasons?? Get some glasses. Worst signing he made as well as Komi. Get rid of those two guys and look at all the moola to spend on real talent.

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Not sure Leaf fans 'hate' Grabovski... If he's gonna bolt for $greener$ pastures come free agency, why not get something for him?
That said, I like his work ethic and the fact he plays larger than he is and would love to see hime stay. Why hasn't he been tried on the first line with Lupul and Kessel?

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The numbers don't justify the contract, s it looks to be a misread on the leafs behalf...burke traded versteeg and beauchemin, so I am sure if he can get a 3rd or 4th for connolly he would take it...why is hawky saying the "hate" for? I read the post above there is no hate...the person is just stating a fact...if you put down a trade proposal it doesn't mean you hate the player you are trading!

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I wouldnt say there is any HATE for grabo, Its more like tradable comodity. You gotta give to get.

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^ look at versteeg now. playing like a champ. figures why. hes on florida. a team he actually wants to play for

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Goes to show just how many players can play in constant spotlight. If you truly want to make a name for yourself it's playing in Toronto. Plain and simple. And if Tim gets trade better not be to another hockey market.

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If Versteeg was on this years TO team he would be flying...his speed would fit...the game they played last year was not conducive to his style...

Not sure what you could get for Connolly...draft picks?

On Grabovski, he may too expensive to keep. 4.5 million is not unreasonable.

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Connolly is an excellent playmaker but if you think he's going to go into the corners or drive the net you are mistaken. If he had big guys on the wings he would be much more effective. Kessel doesn't play that style which is why Bozak (who is a little tougher) gets the spot on the first line.

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I hate reading posts that say players don't want to be in Toronto. If you make millions of dollars a year , you better be giving your best effort, in every game, for any city. I'll admit the media is a bit intense in T.O. but to say players try and play bad to get out ? When did hockey players turn into little overpaid sally's? Quit being a Punk B*T*h , enjoy the spotlight that every kid dreams about having.

PhuKt Up

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Chris Bosh never wanted to be in Toronto lol

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TO: Connolly, MacArthur, D'Amigo

NASH: Wilson, 1st
** you're not going to get much more for that considering Wilson's upside

flip the 1st

TOR: Parenteau

NYI: Nash 1st, Tor 4th

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If the leafs were as bad as the Raps then it wouldnt be an issue . No one wants to play for a team that cant contend. And in no way am I saying the leafs are contenders, but they are in the mix, and have a chance . unlike the raps

PhuKt Up

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How is the connolly signing bad? Its a 2 year window for us to find a replacement (joe colbourne) A 2 yr deal for a guy that adds depth, just cuz hes not a super star doesnt make it that bad, its all we had on the UFA market after brad richards

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Connolly is due at anytime now to be injured.

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Connolly's upside is worth it, besides the injuries. He's an excellent player and will bridge the gap for Colborne when he's ready to take over as the 2nd line centre, and hopefully we can add getzlaf and that would be an amazing 1-2 punch at centre, then bozie and steckle can lead the 3rd and 4th line. I love grabo, but the money he's gonna want is going to be substantial considering we have colborne, if we could trade him now to get a #1, that would be ideal

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Versteeg is plays well when he wants to... thats his down fall. It's why he was moved from Chicago after winning a cup, it's why he was shipped out of T.O., and it's why he got benched in Florida last week. He's got skill, just a bit of an ego.
Players who can handle the media in Toronto, love it (see JM Liles) just because so many people hate the leafs, doesn't mean the players do.
People love to hate the Leafs beacuse they have one of the biggest fan bases in all of pro sports.
So deal with it... pal.
HOCKEYGUY

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Philly lost interest pretty quick as well...

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27 Jan 2012 05:38:26
To Detroit: Grabovski, Gunnersson
To Toronto: Helm, Abdelkader, Tatar, 1st rd pick

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HUGE HUGE HUGE overpayment from Detroit. I mean... like... REALLY big overpayment....

-Hawky

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^ Generally speaking you over pay when you're going to make a run...

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I really think some of you watch highlights and hear a players name and incorporate them in your trades without knowing a thing about them just to sound like you do.

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If toronto added a 3rd or 4th round pick then this would be a very realistic type deal that Burke could pull off

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Doubt detroit would give up helm and abdlekader headin into the playoffs...would love to see them in a leafs jersey tho!

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To 2nd reply: Detroit is working pretty damn well as is, why would they make such a drastic change in a Cup run?

-Hawky

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27 Jan 2012 05:38:24
To Toronto - Parise, Henrique and 5th

To New Jersey - Connolly, Bozak, Schenn, 2nd, 4th.

This has a better chance the any Duck players.

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Better chance of Parise (which is not to say that your offer would get him) than getting Henrique. Why the F would the Devils trade Henrique? Get real...

-Hawky

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Intangibles people... a playoff contending team is not going to give 2 of their arguably best players to another team in the East, particularly when they could be fighting for the same spot...

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27 Jan 2012 04:08:06
to EDM: Schenn, Hamilton, 2nd
to TOR: Gagner, Paajarvi

Helps both teams immedietly and in the future
Maybe a better prospect that Hamilton, although he has been amazing this year

-Bubba Gump Schremp

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I don't know who this "Hamilton" is fro
toronto, I won't pretend to. If Gagner is involved in a trade with Toronto tho, I stick by the earlier proposal of gagner for franson. Being that it was rejected, I maybe throw In a 4th or 5th at this point. Aside from that, I'd keep gagner.

Honestly, Schenn isn't awful. But I'm not a fan. There are Dmen I'd rather get from Toronto. For example.... Franson. And for less.

-Hawky

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No way gagner is worth franson!!

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^Hawky, as a leafs fans, i am here to tell you, with Cam barker in the mix you don't need Franson, you need a player like Schenn, He is 22 and is going to be a top flight shut down guy, eventually.

Having said that, I don't really like this trade either because I don't think BB moves Schenn at all unless we get the 6'2" 225lb center he wants... IMO

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Honestly I know Hawky, sometimes my rub people the wrong way, cuz he is VERY opinionated, but he usually has it on the mark. Most of the time.
Like this scenerio, anyone who thinks Schenn is a top 2 defence on the Leafs is kinda crazy.
The leafs are deeper than most teams at defence, thus Schenn looks a little worse. Schenn honestly would be behind Phaneuf, Liles, Franson, Gunnarsson, Gardiner and maybe even Aulie (Just because Aulie has a way better contract)

That doesnt mean Schenn is crap by any means. So when people say "Well last year Schenn was over 20 minutes, and this year his minutes were cut".
What did you expect to happen when Liles and Franson were both added to an already solid D core. Of course his minutes were gonna go down. I'm not saying that he is having an awesome year, he isn't. but he does hold some good value, for what he brings to the table as a 22 year old defenceman. He is leading the league in hits for a defenceman, and is top 5 in blocked shots too. Once he works hard on his foot speed, he is gonna be a Solid Top 4 defenceman for years to come. And people need to Realize that Schenn isn't garbage, and other GM's don't think he is crap either. Trust me

Bow

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Oilers might need someone like Schenn, but there are guys like Schenn in the league I'd prefer. And as far as Leafs D goes, there are guys on that team I'd prefer too, even if they don't fill the spot..

-Hawky

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27 Jan 2012 03:53:42
TOR: Getzlaf, 4th pick

ANA: Kadri, Schenn, Komisarek, 3rd pick

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Switch kadri to bozak or macarthur, they're going to want an offensive player who can give immediate production after they lose getzlaf

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27 Jan 2012 03:28:42
Was- Grabovski and a 2nd

Tor- Laich


Van- Riemer, Bozak, and a 1st

Tor- Schneider, Higgins

Lupul-Laich-Kessel
Kulemin-Connolly-MacAurthur
Higgins-Lombardi-Armstrong
Crabb-Steckel-Brown

This helps Toronto's lack of a top line center. Laich plays 2nd line in Washington, but has the ability. Higgins is a Burke-like player and adds depth, he fits on any of the top 3 lines. Schneider is capable of a starter role and could help the Leafs out. They lose another 1st and 2nd, but find true goaltending and a top centre for 5 years.

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Sorry, just to clarify; you think Laich is a more "talented" center than Grabo?

I hope you aren't a leafs fan... you want TO to give up a solid proven 2nd line center AND a 2nd round pick for a 3rd line center?? and then want to put that center on the 1st line?? JFJ are you sneaking on here again?? come on man, give it up you aren't the GM in TO any more.... move on.... ;)

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27 Jan 2012 03:17:06
Phillidelphia wants Suter badly and could be the finishing piece to a Stanley Cup run. But if they can't get him other players such as Bryan Allen, or Willie Mitchell could be in play. Another possibility is Komisarek, although that is hard to believe. Most likely, Philly must get rid of a 1st or 2nd rounder, a prospect and a NHL player.

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For Philly to get any of those mentioned players, they will have to pay big and I mean big! No team wants to give away players for one pick one prospect and one NHL player....not enough by a longshot.

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27 Jan 2012 03:12:11
*Flashback*

Boston- Seguin, Kaberle, Hamilton, Knight


Toronto- Kessel, Colbourne, Biggs, Liles

Toronto got the better deal. Liles is a lot better then Kaberle. I know he was just a rental for a cup run but still.
Biggs most likely will be better then Knight and Colbourne is probably better then Hamilton but they play different positions. As for Kessel and Seguin, currently Kessel is better but Seguin will be great in a few years. Anyone can thrive on a strong Bruins team.

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Seguin and Kaberle (even tho Kaberle didn't have as much to do with it) won the Stanley Cup. And Boston is a dynamite team this year, with Seguin leading the league in +/-. Oh, and Dougie Hamilton will be in the league next year.

Kessel is scoring well and the Leafs are fighting for (vigilantly, yes, but fighting nonetheless) for a playoff spot right now. Kessel is paying off for the first time since that trade.

Stop kidding yourself. Unless Kessel plays like this for the next 3 years, Boston STOLE this from Toronto. Let's remember that Kessel was excellent when he was traded for as well, and then went flat. To say Toronto won at this point is dumb...

-Hawky

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Hey Hawky, don't forget that Kessel is still only 24 years old and has post at least 30 goals a season the past 3 years. Kessel is a legitimate 30 - 40 goal scorer playing on a bad leafs team without a number one center. Kessel has changed his game to help the leafs and has become a more well rounded player. I personally think Seguin will be an all star, but you can not deny that Kessel has become one of the best players in the NHL and has not even reached his prime. come on let's be honest he is a worrier, surviving cancer and playing in the spotlight that is the so called hockey universe has changed him from a shy one dimensional player into a guy that is a threat scoring, setting up goals, and playing a decent defensive game.
don't underestimate Kessels ability.
but i'm sure you'll have a negative comment to my reply, you always do.
DR

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No one should pretend that Boston or Toronto had any idea about what the end result would be in this trade...Tyler Biggs could turn out to be better than Seguin...I am sure everyone is like WTF no way Seguin is amazing blah blah blah....but I am just applying the same logic.

Let's be fair, Boston got a young stud, Toronto got a top 5 NHL scorer. Everything else is guess work and made up analysis to make it seem better one way or the other...

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Boston won the cup .... bottomline. Kessel is probably wishing he would have got to stay.

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Seguin and Kaberle won the Cup? Are you saying they were responsible? Hell, I could have won the Cup as a member of that team. Any argument that claims 'they won the Cup' is a stupid one.

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I would rather build a team around a center than a winger player,

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Whoever states that kessel would have wished he stayed to play for the bruins when they won the cup is stupid. He specifically said he wanted to leave after he was left out the year earlier during the playoffs.

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As of RIGHT NOW toronto won...kessel has more goals and points then seguin and plus minus means nothing..its cause his team is crushing everyone if he was in a leafs jersey he would NOT be leading the league...Biggs, Knight and Dougie Hamilton havent played in the NHL...Kaberle basically sat back during the cup run and got like 8 assists so he didnt change the fact they were going to win and then didnt resign...Colborne has played in the NHL and shows good potential while ripping it up with the Marlies....SOOO TO is winning as of right now and we'll just have to wait and see how the other players pan out...

P.S. I go to ice dog games all the time and lemme tell you...Dougie Hamilton is gonna be one hell of a player...cant wait for his future, great guy...even though it is on our rival bruins team (N) all the best Dougie!

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Hawky. how can you possibly say that kessel fell flat upon his arrival in toronto, im pretty sure 2 30 goal seasons, and now this year on pace for 40 is far from falling flat, thats mountain climbing if the leafs are as bad as all the haters want them to be.

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27 Jan 2012 03:09:50
Oilers and lightnings rumor:

Lightnings get: omark

And

Oilers get: stamkosBAZINGA

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I think TB should throw in Hedman....seems unfair, Omark is a top 3 NHL player....

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^lol. Nice sarcasm.

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Yeah dont forget thats still not enough.....gotta throw in Lecavalier and St.Louis to help out the youngsters in Edomonton, Omark is worth all of that and ++++++++++ no doubt about it....Im sure the Oilers are thinking hard about this deal....real hard.

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27 Jan 2012 03:09:21
I dont know how realistic this trade is. But the leafs need to unload some salary, grabo will want raise from his 2.9 million and since they have an excess of defencemen.

Anahiem gets: schenn, aullie, grabo and kulimen

Toronto gets: getzlaf and ryan.

Maybe toss in a pick to sweeten the deal

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Awful. Sober up, re-read this, and you'll see why it's dumb.

If you were sober when you proposed this then... well... go watch figure skating....

-Hawky

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Schenn and aulie will never both be moved... or the depth you mentioned would be a thing of the past

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27 Jan 2012 03:07:47
I hear Toronto is talking to TB.

TMB: Gob, Schenn, Komo and Crabb
TO: Lecaviller

Lupul Lecaviller Kessel

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Way to much for him. Ur giving up young for old and that's carry a 10 mil contract. Would you do that trade? It's a good thing ur not the gm for the leads.

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I heard Lecalvier as well, but more to the tune of a salary dump, a prospect, and a pick

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27 Jan 2012 02:56:18
A comment to the fans/organization of some certain NHL teams.

Boston: Congrats on the cup, look poised to make a run at the repeat. Can't be the best team forever though, that's Detroit's job.

Montreal: Enjoy the next 10 years of being a terrible hockey team, ask Toronto fans for advice on how to get through it.

Vancouver: You'll probably go down as the best team to never win a cup, so enjoy that.

Edmonton: You'll probably win a cup or two with the team you're building and I'd like to say congrats in advance. Until all the young guns hit RFA and you have to gut your team And start all over again.

Toronto: Better continue to improve, or get used to mediocrity.

Winnepeg: Welcome back.

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Boston: Hot this season, probably make it to thr conference finals, but I think they'll not repeat.

Montreal: a few moves away from being in a playoff position.

Vancouver: might win the cup this year, as much as it pains me to say it...

Detroit: Howard is your man. That can't be expressed enough. My question is, can your big guns get going enough to best StL?

Edmonton: The Important RFAs aren't going anywhere. Edm has room and they want to stick around. Yeah, the city sucks, but the future is very promising.

Toronto: great first line. Build on secondary scoring. Goaltending is an issue right now, but there is no need to expect the cup right now. Next year, with tweaking, the Leafs are a top team.

Winnipeg: yah.


Whatevz.

-Hawky

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^ lol at the montreal comment how are they even close to a playoff team, this hawk guy thinks he knows everything eh

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Leafs definitely need goaltending to hope to make it anywhere in the playoffs.

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I agree to disagree with goaltending... Ya were juggling back and forth but look at gustuvsons stats since november... 2.19gaa 915 or 920 save % and its his first year healthy.. Makes for a confusing decision to resign or let him go

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You need two solid goaltenders to be a good hockey team and go deep in the playoffs, rask-thomas, luongo-schneider, biron-lunquist, etc .... BUT gustavvson and reimer?? I think Leafs need one good reliable goalie still and one of the goalies now can go! Experience, mentor, reliable goes a long way for the younger guys too.

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Look at Reimer stats since returning from concussion?? Awful!

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Yah but when you get a concussion you fully don't recover plus look he was doing amazing before he got hurt concussions do weird stuff to you

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Whoa! Someone woke up on the wrong side of the futon this morning.

-Dubs

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Hawky you got great analysis but i disagree with you on your analysis about the leafs. i believe the main problem is not the goalie its the coaching. i seriously think zettler our defense coach should be fired. the puck give aways, leaving guys behind, chasing the puck is our biggest problem. i really think we got solid d core but they are not meeting the fans expectations in terms of playing defense. i know wilson should be blamed for this as well but after firing the two assistant coaches we got great result. firing zettler instead of wilson can give us great result again.

-Realistic Leafs Fan

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Well yeah....Hawk is Hawk.....probably a hawks fan, surprising he didnt put in a comment for the Hawks, i know its not a canadian team, but the Hawk knows the Hawks IMO.

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Hab fans do not need to ask leaf fan advice on anything 45 yrs of mediocrity and counting

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Hawkey is an oiler fan. and montreal is far from a playoff team, theyve been fortunate the leafs, sens, and sabres havent been very good the past few years.

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27 Jan 2012 02:44:23
Trade rumor between chara and alfredsson (spelling I know).

Chara gets: h sedin

For

Alf gets: seguin

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You can trade in the asg?

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^Yeah, ONE trade though.

A.T.

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Guess what... Chara would never trade his team mate for a Vancouver Canuck !

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27 Jan 2012 02:31:46
shenn for markov leafs wants to move him and when markov is healthy he is a beast

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Kommisarek for Markov

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How about we keep Schenn and the habs keep their injury prone d-man who can't help them win games anyway.

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27 Jan 2012 02:18:04
Mason Raymond, Cody Hodgson, Victor Oreskovich & 1st round pick for Shea Weber & 2nd round pick

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27 Jan 2012 02:17:52
Hemsky and a conditional 2nd rounder to Detroit for Kindl...

Hemsky's injury record means even this seems like too high a price to pay for him. He has amazing talent for sure, but that's pretty useless when he's sitting in the press box. Kindl looks to be a pretty good d-man and he has the size Edmonton is looking for.

I keep hearing that Edmonton is going after guys like Jack Johnson or Ryan Suter, but let's be honest, Edmonton doesn't have anything (at least anything they'll actually give up) that anybody wants besides injury-prone Hemsky and some draft picks. I even heard a rumor that teams are looking at Khabibulin, which is nuts because his contract is almost as bad as Horcoffs.

I just don't see Edmonton doing much more than dumping Hemsky. Tambi ain't Burke, and that's all there is to it.

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Its hard to tell whether I should agree with you or slap you across the face.

Heard rumors of Johnson or Suter. But, hey, I couldve started those rumors. They're not real. Regarding Khabibulan, I'd heard a very minor rumor about him but that was weeks ago and nothing happened and I dont see it as becoming anything. He wont move. Hemsky will move, yes. Almost certain on that. The return is uncertain.

Aside from your obvious diagnosis, there is one thing that bothers me.....

"Tambi aint Burke"

I dont know whether to be ok with that or completely insulted. Either way, I'll just say that Burke is a crafty douchebag. Tambi isnt. But Tambi also isnt full of himself and doesnt fill his fan's heads with goof-juice regarding possible trades.... hence the existence of this site...

Anyway, who cares. Ugh...

-Hawky

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They are two different gms with two different philosophies you cant compare them, ya burke has some arrogance, but isnt it nice to have a guy who seaks his mind instead of going through the motions "happy to be here hope we do well" yadda yadda

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"goof-juice" hawky, I know your an oilers fan but dude, you reached on that one,

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Lol......go OIL

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27 Jan 2012 01:08:30
Philly- Suter, 3rd rounder.

Nashville- Voracek, Schenn, 1st rounder.

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Great value...wonder if Weber could be had for that?

would have to be a sign and trade i think...

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Weber and suter wont both be traded unless its like phili last year but webers value is grossly large like anaheim would have to throw in a big 3 and a draft pick, big dman are more valuable than forwards

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Schenn is playing on the leafs not philly buddy get your head in the game

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^hey bright boy - there are two Schenn's: Brayden plays in Philly...you should get it together before you comment on others...

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He's talking about Brayden Schenn, dummy

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^ Luke's brother Brayden plays for Philly you dunce

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27 Jan 2012 01:04:45
Toronto- Okposo

New York Isles- Komo and a 3rd

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Islanders need more

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How do you expect to get okposo for this

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Would love this trade but think its gonna take a 2nd and am hoping that the trade that is gonna happen is bigger then that.

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I am a leafs fan, and it really bothers me to read this stuff... NYI may take a look at a guy like Komi, but it would be like the reverse of the Lupul deal last year.... we would have to give up Komi and lets just say Holzer for Grabner (21pts -16) and even that might be pushing it...

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Grabner is a dud.....he did well enough to get his long term deal, doing nothing now.

NYI- 4th round pick

TOR- Grabner

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27 Jan 2012 00:58:21
Not saying that these guys will be moved for sure but can we all agree that the GM's of these theam are at least entairtaining trade offers for these guys?

Parise NJD
Nash,Carter CBJ
Staal, Gleason CAR
Weber,Suter NAS
Getzlaf,Ryan ANA
Hemsky,Ganger, 1stdp, EDM
Anyone MTL
Schenn,Graboskie,Kulimin TOR
Semin WAS
Brown LA
Lecaviller TB

I see so many posts on here saying "o nash isnt going anywhere" or "no way La trades brown"
These are the top guys that teams looking for a playoff push are going to persue and they are all for sale at a respective price. Not saying they will defenatly be moved but there is a good chance alot of them will.

usually we see teams with no identity finishing at the bottom of the leauge. But With so many teams struggling, that have top end elite players on them, look for the next month to be one of the craziest trade deadline monthes ever.

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I think saying "GMs are listening" is a misnomer for some of them. I'm sure there are offers coming in all over for those guys, and maybe with the the GMs have it at the back of their mind, but I'd say some of them are incredible long-shots. I have very strong doubts about nearly half of those listed being moved. At least you didn't say with certainty "these guys WILL move!" like some people do.

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^ I agree, it is frustrating to continually read about potential trades that have Eastern, play-off bound team trading their Studs for futures with teams hoping to catch them in the standings... I know we are in a Cap system, and that means you may see Buyers and Sellers, but Nash/NJ/LA/WAS aren't sellers. They MAY move one of those players to fill another hole, granted... but a team like Nashville... they likely aren't moving either of those guys, and if they did it would be suter, and if that happened, it would be a Stud on a bottom feeder i.e.Staal coming back... or whats the point? and WHO does NJ move Parise to and get any value for right now? not 1st rnd picks, but players that are as good or better than Parise?? these are the questions that so often go unanswered when "the poster" thinks up a fantasy trade....

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Do you really think the Edmonton trades it first rounder? Really? Really? Seriously? Actually? Are you sure?

No you are not. And they won't unless it's for a superstar.

-Dubs

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27 Jan 2012 00:50:51
To TOR: C - J. Carter
4th round pick

To CLB: C - T. Bozak
D - J. Blacker
F - J. D'Amigo
2nd round pick

CLB baddley wants out of this deal and recouping a 2nd round pick along with grabbing a couple prospects and a decent Center is worth it.

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Burke loves bozak. hes got heart and hes responsible. he is a good enough band-aid 1st line center because kessel and lups are playing well enough that jamal mayers would be on pace for a 50 point season with them. he is a perfect 2nd/3rd line center behind "insert superstar here aquired before trade deadline", i hope they sign grabovski as he is a good 2nd line center with lots of heart and trade connolly and komisarek for whatever you can get

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Has a lowzy contract but he's big brings experience 2 the table and he can score ......

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The deal wouldve been done already if it was that easy

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This is a nice deal for both. Jackets get out of a long deal. Leafs add a good player without selling the farm. Can still add another piece.

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You realize he makes like 4 mill more than bozak and blacker and d'amigo's salaries dont count against the cap b/c they're in the AHL, maybe take out d'amigo or blacker and put in lombardi or komi for cap purposes

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Carter is a cool player but his contract stinks.

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Its not gonna cost that much to take on that terrible contract... Probly more like a mid level prospect and a 2nd rounder.. take out blacker and the deal would make sense.... but then again Burke isnt that dumb to even consider Carter

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Take out Bozak and add Connolly. Connolly isn't working out in Toronto and taking up 4.25/mil

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Why would the leafs do this, wait i know because it worked out so well for the islanders and dipietro

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27 Jan 2012 00:07:32
To Nashville: Mikhail Grabovski
To Toronto: Colin Wilson and Mid to Low DP

I'm not that good at proposing trades, I apologize. I think both teams can benefit out of this, as Wilson can develop into a solid scoring forward (very soon hopefully) and Mikhail Grabovski can be a reliable top six forward, something that Nashville doesn't REALLY have.

Maybe a few tweaks can be made to this trade, any suggestions? Thoughts?

Wright Winger

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I like the value moving here...i think it would be one for one...but I don't see TO moving Grabovski unless it was part of a bigger deal

If I were Burke though and Nashville was ok I would do it

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Nashville may look at the fact that Grabovski is 5 points ahead of Wilson in points, at a little less than double the cap hit...he is also a UFA...I think Nashville would turn it down

Kadri, MacArthur may be a better option

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I do and dont like this trade. I like it because colin wilson SHOULD develop into a top centre or to the same level as grabo, he also adds great size. I dont like it becase burkes looking to win now, he wants to make the playoffs, not miss them so its a win/loss

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26 Jan 2012 23:46:36
The Leafs need a player like Colin Wilson, a player with tremendous upside who has size 6'1" and weight 210 lbs and won't cost an arm and a leg. Acquire JVR and playing alongside Kessel would be the Leafs new number one All American line for years to come. Forget about Jeff Carter, he is injury prone, Ryan Malone is not the player he used to be. Getzlaf will cost a fortune and so too would Bobby Ryan

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Why would they split up Kessel and Lupol?

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I like Colin Wilson...I will go out of my way to say he will cost a fair amount given the fact he has tremendous upside and he is young

@ first comment...Because KESSEL and LUPUL will play together :)

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They already have split up *lupul and kessel

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^ they don't have to split them up...Wilson is a C

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NASH: Kadri, MacArthur

TOR: Wilson

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No oilers need colin wilson

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^ So what do the Oilers offer for Wilson?

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Oh please they have RNH and the immovable shawn horcoff. they don't need a center. also sam gagner could be a top 6 center for them.

-Realistic Leafs Fan

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Oilers definitely have more than enough centres. They need d-men like crazy, and they'll also need a legitimate number one goalie before long as well. Dubnyk is clearly not suited for more than a role as a solid backup.

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^
I could see the Oilers picking up another center in the draft (if they remain at 2nd, Grigorenko seems the likely choice). Horcoff is awful at everything except face-offs, he is a 3rd line center. I could see them moving Belanger (he has fallen apart in Edmonton) to make room for Grigorenko (if he's ready for the NHL). Gagner could take 2nd line C, but I think he has actually performed better on the wing and that might be a better place to keep him, same with Lander (for now at least). I could see RNH, Grigorenko, Horcoff and O'Marra as next years centers...

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26 Jan 2012 23:03:40
To Toronto Stastny

To Colorado Kadri, Biggs, Gunnerson

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Leafs wont trade Biggs this early.

A.T.

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26 Jan 2012 22:52:26
Trade suggestion:

MON: Suter

NAS: Kostitsyn, Subban, Conditional 1st (if Suter does not re-sign)

Keeps Nashville competitive and adds a goal scorer and they are trading a rental player for a rental player. Montreal moves Subban and re-negotiates a long term deal with Suter.

Regardless of what you think about Subban he's a talented player. Since most people are blind to the fact that d-men take longer to develop, i'll take a leap and say that Subban is going to be a top 10 defender in 5 years. Disagree all you'd like, but history and common sense will tell you that trading young d-men is a big mistake. No GM in the league would consider trading a player like Subban unless you were getting great value back and I think it's there.

Subban is having a rough go so far in Montreal. Nashville is quiet, low profile and he will have good defensive influences. Just the type of environment he needs. He may also add some character to an otherwise quite franchise.

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You know what, even being a leaf fan I think this is a good idea. You may have to trade them Eller instead of Kostitsyn, though, as I think he'll end up in Nashville one way or another.

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Yeah he is a UFA...hrmmmm if I was Montreal I wouldn't make the deal with anyone but Kostitsyn (unless it was a sign and trade - or the player was Gomez HA HA HA) mainly for the same reason you pointed out...

Update: Eklund is reporting that Montreal has no interest in trading Subban, so i am guessing this deal gets done by midnight (based on every ones idea about Eklund's credibility)?

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So Nashville gets a 1st if Suter does not resign? I like your logic lol.

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26 Jan 2012 21:59:51
The Panthers acquired defenceman Sean Sullivan from the Sharks in exchange for centre Tim Kennedy.
TSN

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Cool, no one cares about AHL trades

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My fantasy maple leafs line up :)
lupul statsny kessel
kadri malone crabb
lombardi grabovski frattin
steckle ziggomanis brown
phenouf weber
schenn liles
gardiner holzer

more offence and defence balance on all lines

bernier
reimer
gustavson gunnarson komi for bernier LA at deadline
connely aulie and 3rd for weber-nasville at deadline
macarther and mkegg malone-tampa before deadline
franson armstrong and 2nd for statsny before deadline

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This team is not better then the current lineup except bernier.....
stasney is a great talen but this team is still not even close to contending
look at chicago, as an example ...we lose

Dr Feelgood

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You left out kulemin

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SO I did leave out kuli eh..well. how about kulie for a 3rd and 6th rounder. that way when we give up out 3rd we have one left for offseason maybe washington can take him? and allthough it might not be a huge improvement what burke and ron wants is balance. we got our big foward in statsny and a solid goalie. plus a badass defenceman to play with dion. this lineup can win us a round. maybe not 2 but one.

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^ really Kuli for a 3rd??

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If its your fantasy lineup why didn't you pick better players to replace the rest of the original Leafs

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^^^
cuz hes harold ballards great great grandchild :P

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Yeah a real blockbuster deal, gonna improve both teams for years to come.

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26 Jan 2012 21:15:11
Fellow Leafs fan. I just wanna tell you something, and I'm not happy about it. I was listening to doug mclean and kypreos and they said Coburn is only gonna be a 3rd liner and barley a second liner. Kadri is only supposed to be a second liner too. So stop over valuing them.

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Why aren't you happy about it and then you say to stop over-valuing them?? I could have told you that all along and I am a leaf fan too. I could care less.

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Relax francis...

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Doug and nick are not hockey Gods. Pretty sure both of them wrote off stamkos his rookie year as well as Tavares saying they didn't have what it takes in the NHL. And u can add Corey perry to that list as well. Wait until they get a legit shot before writing them off

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Just because they ware on the radio or on TV doesn't mean they're right. Kypreos is one of the dumber analysts on TV.
Its also unfair to call them a "3rd liner"
Kadri will be a 2nd liner, it has more to do with his size.
Colborne could be a top 6 and looks like he will be

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What makes mclean and kyprios so smart. let burke do his job. thats why he gets the big bucks

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Trade value and player evaluations (in particular those that have not completely developed) are Completely subjective opinions...and as I said, i don't think you can over value prospects...because they are prospects, you don't know what they are, tough to over value something that you don't have an accurate value for....AND if they were top lines, you're not trading for either of those guys bc you know they are top liners....

but this isn't shocking...Colbourne is not Sundin...that much should be obvious

Kadri a second liner, that's fine...but by no means should that be an indication of a lower value...let's make it fair though, but like i said about, if you knew Kadri was a 1st liner he probably wouldn't be traded...

Stop using the term over valuing if you don't know what it means

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Kypreos should go back to getting knocked out in fights in EMBARASSING fashion. The guy is a loser bum

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Over valueing can be used when people think that 1 prospect plus a 2nd or 3rd line roster player is going to get you a star player. Look what Carter got when Phil traded him - Voracek and an early 1 st round pick

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When it came to the playoffs sundin was a 4th liner or at least thats what he played like

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^ Voracek wasn't a prospect though...he had played 3 seasons, averaging 42 pts...but stick with Voracek, 3 seasons ago before he played a game for CBJ, would you have traded Carter for him and a 1st?

Prospects by their nature are taken at face value, because you don't know what you're getting in the long run...

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I never listen to what most analysts say. I am sure there have been some players they only been saying the same thing as the analysts and the player ends up being a top 6 player instead of bottom 6... Its kinda like saying that oh since this guy was drafted in 6th round he will never become an nhler...

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26 jan 2012 21:12:41
toronto-roy
buffalo-macarthur,kadri

toronto-malone
tampa-komoserik

finger,7th
for a 7th

lupul-roy-kessel
kulimen-grabovski-bozak
lombardi-connoly-malone
armstrong-steckle-brown

phaneuf-gunnarson
schenn-liles
franson-gardiner

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Way tooooooooooooo much for roy...and malone...why?

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That top line will get man handled. Too small

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Tampa would never make that deal. Also he would be the 2d line right winger
Roy would be useless for us, hes 5'9", we need a 6'2"+ centre for kessel,

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Roy is the opposite of what Burke is looking for. We want big and tough down the middle not 5'9"

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We need Getzlaf

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^ The Leafs WANT Getzlaf...they NEED a super star goal tender....

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26 Jan 2012 20:45:02
tor: scheen
3th round pick
9th round pick

for

mtl: subban
2th round pick

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Is there even 9 rounds to the draft now

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Why can't anyone spell schenn?

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No thanks. Schenn is a team player with class, why trade for another d-man who is a punk that does his own thing.

Terrible trade, go jump out your basement window.

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Schenn and a 3rd for Subban would be more realistic.

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What is a 9th round pick?

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Tor fans have essentialy talked of trading every player on there team im a habs fan and even though they are having a rough year there are still a lot of people on that team i wouldn't trade. leafs think there own players are garbage but they expect other teams not to think this way and overpay them in every deal aint happening guys

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The draft is 7 rounds

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Rough year is just a cover up for rebuild, you know, cause, that habs suck/no talent

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26 Jan 2012 20:17:10
Flames and Canadians trade rumor

Flames get bourque for Canadians get cammaleri (spelling I know). It would help both team a lot ;)

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Do you watch hockey?

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No I don't I just know the names I heard my brother say them a couple of times. Geez some of you guys are to easy

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Mtl would get ripped off big time with this deal i think they say no thanks to this one

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Do you get sarcasm?

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Ya the leafs should also try to get phaneuf. I'm thinking hangman, white, stajan and mayers sounds close. Maybe we should see if calgary will throw in aulie

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This opposite trade was made before cammalleri-bourque why do it again?

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And while we're at it lets trade 2 first and a 2nd for a ginger/Puss

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Why would they swap back players didnt you see the trade that happen a couple of weeks ago..... lol

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^^^ I like that phaneuf deal, i heard calguary has a PK guy named sjostrom, It would be sweet if burkie could get the flames to throw him in too

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Lol are you guys that dumb I posted it as a joke.....I actually find you guys Pathetic if you really thought I wasn't joking. Soo sad

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It was funny the first time around, but your like 8th person to post this trade already...

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Haha!! People who doubted it... What now? It happened! Not Bourque for Cammalleri straight up, but they were both involved and it happened

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26 Jan 2012 20:04:58
Possible trade in the works with Leafs and Oilers

to TORONTO
SAM GAGNE
RYAN JONES

to Edmonton
Luke Schenn
Graboski
Keith Aulie

leafs get size and grit and centreman.
Oilers get bid d man and playmaker

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I love it!

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Not a chance Toronto does this.

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Leafs get size? and grit... Aulie is a monster, and Schenn leads the league in hits... and Tor gets help up the middle?? I take Grabo over Gagne all day

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Take out Jones and put in Omark or PVR

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Toronto gets ripped off royally no thanx

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Burke would be ran out of Toronto if he did that

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Resign grabo already, he is worth every penny....dump komisarek, macarthur, armstrong, lombardi before trading grabo

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Burke is running himself out if he doesn't make the playoffs this year.

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Ya great trade! They should just give Ryan smith to Pittsburg for Crosby while they're at it! Brutal

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Resign grabo trade connolly

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Toronto should throw in franson to make it even

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This doesn't help either team...

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I dont think edm would want grabovski maybe switch for kulemin

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I could understand the Oilers trading Gagner (he'd get a decent return and could be replaced with one of the Oilers stockpiled forward prospects), but Ryan Jones should be held onto. He is being played on the 2nd line these days (for some friggin reason, he doesn't fit there), but he is a top 3rd line guy. He plays with as much energy as Taylor Hall in every game. He is a leader for this team and beloved by fans for that reason. Renney needs some sense knocked in his head and play Jones on the 3rd line.

If Tor wants a trade for Gagner, I'm ok with the Franson/Gagner trade proposed months ago....

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26 Jan 2012 20:03:58
luke schenn for jvr and 1st or 2nd, then swing that 1st with kadri and another first and komisarek (sal dump ) for either carter and something or just ryan or getz

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We dont want carter

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Bahaha komi and a pick for getz or ryan. Never happen.

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Blah blah put a readable proposal down dude

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Few more pawns needed in this chess match, but I like where your going with these two trades. Along the lines of what Burke is probably working on

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Hold on you think kadri komisarek and to 1st rd picks isn't enough. okay!!

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(kadri, komi, 1st 2012 tor,1st 2012 phi) is more than any other team would give ANA for getzlaf

Ana would have 3 first round picks in the draft (one of them in the top 5) and kadri (so baisicly 4 first round picks). If they want to rebuild this is the best deal they would get

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A silly trade just for "names." Put some thought into what your team needs instead of saying "trade our secondary players for the best player on any team."

-Hawky

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26 Jan 2012 19:00:32
To: Philly
Boumeister & sarich
To: Cgy
Schenn & Coburn

To: Mtl
Coburn
To: Cgy
Subban

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Thats why the leafs cant get in the playoffs we never get anything back in return

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You're joking right?

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Jay Feaster would be manager of the year if you could pull this off.

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@first commenter: leafs arent involved in the trade

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Yes first reply guy ... read the damn post.

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Guy saw Schenn and has no idea Luke's brother also plays in the league.

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26 Jan 2012 18:58:44
To NAS: Downie and a 2nd

To TBL: Lindback

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One of the nest deals iv ever seen on this site

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Lindback is going to be sick hes like 6'6 and amazing.

If I were NAS I would hold onto him for a couple more years until hes a well knowen name and then trade him

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26 Jan 2012 18:57:13
To Nashville: Magnus Paajarvi and 4th rnd pick

To Edmonton:Ryan Ellis and 2nd rnd pick

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Ellis is better then paj

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The only thing Pajaarvi has going for him i that he was drafted in the first round....

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Swap the picks around and its a really fair trade, and paajarvi is one of the best skaters in the leauge he will thrive in the new NHL

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Edmonton includes a 2nd and nashville sends a 3rd/4th

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This isn't bad, but I don't want the Oilers to give up on Paajarvi. Horrible sophomore slump, yes, but he is a strong player with speed. His potential is high. Yes, so is Ellis's, but I'd rather the Oilers explore other options.

As a proposal tho, value-wise, it's not bad...

-Hawky

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26 Jan 2012 18:40:39
To VAN:Steve Ott
To DAL:Mason Raymond,3rd round

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If this deal was going to happen i think it would b Dallas giving us the pick as well as Ott?

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What!? No no no, Dallas is getting fleeced, put in another 3rd and its a good deal.

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Ott can be had for a 3rd or 4th round pick

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26 Jan 2012 17:47:40
habs are frontrunners in ryan suter sweepstakes here's a rumour i've been hearing
a kostitsyn, m darche, a palushaj 1st rd pick
for suter and 1st rd pick

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Okay montreal fans, and the leafs are frontrunners in sidney crosby sweepstakes.

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Not a defence

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In response to the Crosby post... Dude, I understand your frustration with the ridiculousness on here but, that is just looks amateur... You need to at least add something more then a random rant

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I AM A LEAF FAN AND I AGREE

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Crosby is done so let the Leafs have him.

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This isn't even a leafs post...

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Leafs.

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As of right now phil and mtl are the two teams pursueing suter the most both teams have said they wont give up there future for a ufa but mtl appears to have offered the better deal up till now so the guy who posted this trade may know more then we think

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Toronto are probably stupid enough to go after crosby

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Toronto Maple Leafs to be exact...

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Poor sid the kid. Rest and relax crosby until the 2014 winter olympics when we defend gold. nevermind the penguins.

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Leafs for sure like concussed players so why not crosby? reimer, connolly, lombardi, stekel, orr, lindros.... and i am sure many more.

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I'd go after Crosby. He will be back. Unlike savard cros doesn't have a vag!

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If Pitt called TO and said we need to move on without Crosby and we are willing to take a trade...you make that trade...clearly not to the detriment of the team, given his status is unknown...but taking a chance on Crosby is almost as good as a sure shot 3rd line player

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^^ i would guess better than 2/3 of the players in the NHL have had a concussions(some known, others not)...so in that respect everyone likes concussed players...

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There is no such thing as the CROSBY sweepsteaks, No one in their right mind would trade good healthy players for him, he had a severe concussion and not worth the risk

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26 Jan 2012 17:38:13
Toronto to claim Nittymaki off waivers

To Anaheim: Reimer, Kadri, Shenn, and conditional pick (2012) depending on Leafs playoff hunt

To Toronto: Getzlaf, Matt Clark (prospect)

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He cleared waivers and was not claimed...

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You're not a true fan is you spell Schenn wrong.

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Nah, he's just not worth the C in the name...get him outta here while he's still got any value at all

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Whats reimers value these days? Obviously not as high as last year and he doesnt have enough experience to call him an established number one goalie. Just curious

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The leafs will need to add more to get Getzlaf

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He was good last year. He is also young and inexpensive...i would consider a chance on him if I needed a future goal tender...

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Future goaltender? leafs need one now. i am a fan and know reimer and gustavvson can't carry a team to the cup.

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The Leafs always have to add more to deals meanwhile other teams only need to tinker their lineup to get their bonafide player.....yeah right......u guys kill me everytime with these bonehead moves.....you hate the Leafs that much? LOL

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26 Jan 2012 17:33:08
Hey Leaf fans - want to know why you won't be even close to the cup in the next 5 - 10 years?

It's because no one would make this trade:

Boston: Kessel

Toronto: Seguin, Hamilton, Knight

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^ that's the most obtuse argument i've ever heard...

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It wasn't even that bad of a trade looking back on it when you consider how Kessel is playing

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I'd make that trade.

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Leafs canucks get most of the publicity these days why i dont know the next canadian team to win the cup will be oilers or habs with the exception of a couple good years by the flames they are the only 2 teams that have had any sucess in the past 45 years and this trend will continue

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Hey ass clown have you forgotten what Boston gave back to Toronto for Kaberle...I guess not!

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Leafs didn't plan on finishing with the 2nd overall pick genius. In burkes mind his team probably ended up getting 8th or 6th pick at best that year and was nowhere near Taylor hall or seguin. If leafs even ended up with 3rd pick that year everyone would praise Burke on the deal. Good luck on Boston's part and leafs too. Just an example of how both teams made a good trade and neither would go back on it.

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Ya but we did make up for it somewhat in the kaberle trade getting colborne a first and a second for kaberle. And Kaberle isnt even playing with them anymore while kessels been a consistent 30 goal scorer. I agree with what your trying to say with giving up the future because our past gms were terrible. Over the past decade weve given up high end picks for aging veterans and nobodys and thats why we have sucked for so long.

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If you look at what Burke got for Kaberle: Joe Colborne (Top 6 forward in a few years), a 2nd round pick (Which we flipped for Jon-Michael Liles, and things are looking pretty good with that extension.), and Tyler Biggs (who scouts were comparing to Milan Lucic at the draft.

All in all, I think that makes up for the Kessel trade. And we still have Kessel, who's only going to get better and better if we continue to get better players to play with him.

JT

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So kessel colbourne biggs 1st and 2nd for kaberle sequin hamilton and knight 1st 2nd 1st. kaberle is gone, hamikton biggs knight completely unproven, colbourne has looked good but needs more time. seems good for both teams. add lebda for franson and lombardi, liles added, lupul and gardiner for francios beachemin. good boy burke

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Do you remember when Boston traded Joe Thornton to San Jose for Sturm,Stuart and Wayne Primeau? Do you remember when Thronton won the scoring title that year? Whats your point?

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Make a comment when knight and hamilton prove themselves, and id do seguin for kessel as of now

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Perhaps we lost the Kessel trade (perhaps). But what burke sold Kaberle for was amazing...Colborne/kessel and the rest of the leafs are gonna s**t on the Bruins for the next 5-10 years!

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Seriously this argument is painful, leafs didnt trade kessel for seguin hamilton and knightthey traded 2-1st and a second for kessel, if you make the argument that the leafs traded seguin for kessel, thats all youre doing os arguing, also you cant just add the kaberle and kessel trade and say ot worked out,

To the person who says post bal here when knight and hamilton provethemselves, you know nothing about hockey and are probably 16 and covered with acne, burke got a guy who was a prven 30g man, by the time hamilton and knight prove themselves kessel will be winning the rocket trophy when he has a decemt team woth him

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TOR: Colbourne, Stuart Percy, John Michael Liles

BOS: Kaberle

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^ Tyler Biggs, not Stuart Percy.

Burke traded Boston's #30 pick to Anaheim for their #22. Percy was taken will Philadelphia's #25.

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Who cares about all this anyway. Kaberle and Seguin have rings so boston won the trade thus far. Leafs might get a few cups as well before the other guys careers are over? Well hopefully win one at least.

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^ i don't think it really matters...i just reversed the logic used by the poster...but thanks for pointing that out

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Not to suggest Seguin won't be a great player, however, suggesting that he and Kaberle have Stanley Cup rings is pointless.....almost as much as the points both Sequin and Kaberle had during the playoff chase. People forget that Seguin barely played and was in the stands most nights and Kaberle was a pilon on the ice most nights.

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But Kaberle has a ring and no one on the Leafs got one

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Yep, so Boston is undeniably winning those 2 trades right now. Let's revisit this in 20 years when all the players involved are retired and we can make a real comparison.

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OK, I'll meet you here in 20 years and we'll discuss that trade between the Bruins and Leafs ok.....OK!

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26 Jan 2012 16:52:00
I am guessing the Leafs will add depth and secondary scoring before they add a super star.

TOR: P.A Parenteau

NYI: Komisarek, Ryan Hamilton, Holzer, 4th dp

Why? Parenteau is a rental player with lots of value. He'll bring some secondary scoring and help on the PP.

Komisarek waives his no trade clause to go back home. In fact the Islanders have 5 UFAs on the blue line heading into 2012. NYI get a young d-man to build around in Holzer. Hamilton is one of the Marlies best players and can add depth to the Islanders.

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Before you blast the trade (throw in a cliche) remember Parenteau is a rental player and the Islanders are a hope and a dream away from making the playoffs...so long term the Islanders are adding a young piece in exchange for a guy they could resign in the offseason

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I think Komisarek would do much better in New York. His best years came in Montreal playing with Mark Streit (correct me if I'm wrong Habs fans) and the pressure would be 100 x less than Toronto. Not going to debate what would change hands, but I think it would be a good move.

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Take out holzer...then the trade is fair

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He had his best years playing with markov how could anyone sign komizerek to this deal plus give him a no trade clause worst signing in years

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Komi has a modified NTC. Every June he gives the Leafs a list of teams he agrees to be traded to. JM

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Not one of Burkes best moments but who would have thought he'd suck so bad. komi and finger would make a good d-pairing on the farm.

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In montreal komisarek played with markov and they were awesome together

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26 Jan 2012 16:05:18
Toronto isn't interested in Carter and hasn't even contacted Columbus about him so stop making trade proposals about him. He would be a bad fit for the Leafs as he is a shoot first center.
Source: @DarrenDreger

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Bad fit only because his long contract, no denying his skill

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Thank you. Best post all day.

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Regardless of what DD reports people will still post Carter suggestions...because lets face it, in certain circumstances adding Carter to the Leafs makes the team better(assuming you're not trading a lot)...whether they are interested or not is irrelevant...

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^wrong... skill doesn't have a lot to do with chemistry... I agree with the original post, he doesn't fit on the Leafs, skill or no... contract has nothing to do with it.

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^ Agree. Skill and chemistry are 2 different things. Ask the Rangers, they signed Holik, Drury, Gomez, Redden, Jagr...everybody...the list goes on. Did they win the Cup? Did they even make the playoffs?

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If you don't think adding Carter makes the Leafs a better team you are outside your mind

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Guessing everyone posting here thinks the Kessel trade was bad too. Last year you were all probably posting on this site about how great carter is now u hate him cuz of one bad year due to injury. Guess u would trade Crosby this year along with ovi , Richards , Ryan miller, and Rick Nash. This is y none of u are a GM and know nothing about players value

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Even if hes shoot first why not put grabo with kessel and lupul and carter with kuli and mac/kadri. That would be two dangerous lines assuming carter and kuli eventually get good again or that kuli isnt traded

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I'm the one that posted this and I didn't say adding Carter doesn't make the Leafs better, he's just not a good fit. He might be skilled, but the chemistry just isn't there.

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Carter would make the team better on a skill basis, but he would have to gel with linemates that are two-way players and a playmaker i.e. kuli and lupul, but they wont split lups and kess

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Hes a good fit just a stuiped contract.

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26 Jan 2012 15:53:27
Offseason trade, as I don't think Nashville will move either Suter or Weber, it would kill there chances of a serious playoff run this year.

To Nashville: the rights to Hemsky, Paajarvi, and a conditional 1st

To Edm: Weber and a conditional pick

OR

To Nashville: the rights to Hemsky, and a conditional pick

To Edm: the rights to Suter, and a conditional pick.

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If any of those 2 dman go before deadline i think it will be suter phil and mtl appear to be the frontrunners i think whoever gets him will overpay considering he is a ufa

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I suspect that neither will be moved - no one is going to gove up assets if they can't lock them up long term, and unless its where they want to go thats not going to happen.

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Take out paajarvi

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And oilers will get weber

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Hemsky's value is not nearly high enough to be part of a trade for Suter or Weber....i am not even sure Nashville would like a trade for either of those with Pajaarvi and Gagner involved...maybe if their 1st was in there...but i would be asking for a lot for either if I was Nashville....

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26 Jan 2012 15:34:37
Columbus has officially put Carter on the trade block. For Columbus this was the time for this decision. The return for carter will be at a high and many teams are in the market. Here is the most likely offer that will go through on this deal.

To Columbus: M Grabovski, C MacArthur, K Aulie

I do not see a draft pick being offered in this trade unless carter gets more offers than expected. Columbus is trading carter due to his lack of connection with Nash. Grabovski and MacArthur have proven chemistry and will fit nicely on a line with Nash, or even on a second line at worst case scenario. Either way they produce more than carter has. Adding Keith aulie to the mix is a top prospect defender that adds to the defensive core of Columbus for years to come.

Toronto on the other hand gets a tip center that should produce in a larger hockey market. Columbus is not a good fit for this player who probably would have put Columbus in his bottom choices of who to play for. Toronto is a rising team that will give carter a platform to compete for the cup in years to come. Where Burke generally does not like contracts like Carter's I'm sure he will make an exception while he has spent 4 years failing to land a top center. Depending on the interest carter gets will depend on how. Uh Toronto offers but in the end I don't see a team being able to out bid Burke and the leafs for Carter's services

TROB

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If Carter can't connect with Nash, what makes Toronto think he can connect with Kessel. I don't like players that are only good if they play with a certain other player. Really limits your team. Don't like this trade.

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Let some other team outbid and give up the farm for Carter. He's a one dimensional player that was made to look better by the awesome playmaking ability and work done by Richards. Carter isn't a playmaker by any means, and if he isn't scoring he's pretty much a non factor. No thanks.

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As mentioned he would do well in a larger hockey market. Carter is not motivated in Columbus.

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Carter is always injured, and a whiner, honestly, he's not a Burke character guy and his contract is a huge albatross, carter will not ever be traded to Toronto, unless Burke gets him for next to nothing

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Columbus might have to bite the bullet and take a little less than they want to move out his 20 year salary. His first time out of Philly and he can't produce. Be careful.

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He'll go to LA, expect a 3rd team involved

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Its hard to evaluate his abilities because he was unhappy being dealt to columbus, that being said, why would the leafs want a player who gives up when unhappy

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Columbus gave up a first, a third and Voracek to get Carter. And that was before he went in the tank. Don't expect much more than that. If Toronto wants him, comparable draft picks and player.

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We forget Carter is only 26 and is still developing. Sometimes we are too hard
on players and judge them too quickly.

We forget about the Lupuls etc. Best season will be this year.

Carter would be a good fit

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At the beginning of the season I would have doubted you, however since Kessel has taken a more playmaking approach- I see Carter fitting well in the biggest-franchise in the NHL.As said above, he will be motivated however I do not really know his value but I would not give up Grabovski. I know, gotta give to get, but give Aulie or Gunarrson, Grabovski is a clutch player.

Dr. Leaf

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I he is one dimensional then why was he on team Canada for the Olympics? Pretty sure he was only considered behind Crosby toews and Richards. Guess team Canada didn't think he was a one dimensional player

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Darren Dreger said the Maple Leafs are not interested in Carter.

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Seriously? Grabo has 32 points, MacArthur has 24 points, Carter has 17. 7 assists. You are trading 56 points for 17. And a big defenseman. No thanks.

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CBJ would settle for draft picks I think

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Dreger is not MR HOCKEY, His analysis plays it safe. Carter was injured for over a month and who does he have to play with? I know if i am not happy at work my production goes down. Hockey players can only work with what they got, hence Columbus is the worse team.
Carter in Toronto and Columbus can eat some of the SALARY

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^^^U cant just add up two players points and compare them to one player. By that logic we shouldnt trade grabo and lupul for malkin because their 83-4 points are way better than his 56 points.

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The Contract of Carter would allow the Leafs to steal him with out giving much up in assets. Its almost impossable for Carter to be traded. If Burke can accept his contract it would be a steal a great player wiothout giving up much in assets

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Exactly

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^ I don't think he/she meant you wouldn't trade Grabo/Mac for Malkin. Lets be serious. But why would you trade two 20 goal guys for one who may score 25 to 35. Its called depth. Malkin blows all 3 of those guys away. No comparison.

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All 3 of them wouldn't get Malkin

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26 Jan 2012 15:22:42
to the leafs: b ryan, b mcmillan
to the ducks: kadri,schenn,2nd

to the leafs: mason, brassard
to columbus: macarthur, reimer

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Mason is damaged goods...he needs to spend 5 years behind a veteran

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^disagree... as a former competitive goalie, with no where near the size or talent of Mason, the guy needs a change of scenery with a defense that doesn't resemble swiss cheese. It's not an accident he was so good when he came in, Ken Hitchcock was the coach.

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Reimer is just as damaged, 3 concussions

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^ you really made the exact same assessment...Damaged goods = a player who cannot perform in his current position aka confidence

you may be right, but ultimately Mason is not a clean slate...that's really all i was saying

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Mason needs to go to Detroit. Hell anybody that needs to improve should go there. Red Wings develop players properly

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26 Jan 2012 15:12:56
I find it hard to believe the Leaf's will go after Carter, Ruttu, or Parise...the fact is Carter has 10 years left on his deal, Ruttu could be a rental but will probably demand close to 5 mill/yr moving forward as a UFA, and Parise will get a long term deal that Burke has insisted he won't do fo for the purpose of handcuffing the franchise...What Burke has to realise is if he wants that coveted top forward he's going to have to sign him to a long term deal...So who fits the bill? I have said before that Burke is strongly pursuing Brown from LA...yes he's the captain but LA is struggling and Kopitar, Richards, Doughty, Johnson are not going anywhere...This is how I think the deal will go down.

LA: Dustin Brown, Bernier

Tor: Grabovski, Macarthur, Blacker, Gustavvson, 2012 2nd (conditional if grabovski signs)

@Leafsbuzz

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As good as bernier is i believe this deal sets the leafs back!!

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Its 2 much 4 the leafs 2 give up. reimer is in a slump this deal will bite the leafs in the end no deal

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I don't think LA gives up either player...Bernier seems more likely...

The Leafs can add an impact player without moving 2/3 of their second line

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Leas need an upgrade from plates like Grabovski. These two players are not upgrades

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Yes the leafs are giving up a bit but they are not going to give grabo what he wants money wise and Macarthur is a good player but you have to give up good players to get good players...this move allows the leafs to bring up frattin who is a physical forward who can also contribute offensively.

Lupul - Bozak - Kessel
Brown - Connolly - Kulimen
kadri - Lombardi - Frattin
Armstrong - Zigomanis - Brown

Send down Crabb

The second line gets a little more Physical

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Brian Burke doesn't sign his players for more the 5 yrs. and he wouldn't take on big contracts. The thought if him going after carter makes no sense. Do you people just posted thing on here to create an argument. You people make me laugh. Carter is a garbage player. Bb will get his center men but it won't be carter. Oh why no go after Vincent and his 10mil a yr salary. That makes more sense to me. Bb won't go against his word. If he says no its no. So stop saying Otherwise. Ty

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If u want to get more physical you can probably add someone else who you don't need to move a lot for...

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Insane trade..we cant be looking at trading half the team again. Just add some depth or get a power forward for one player and a draft and prospect.

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^^ you traded 3 active players and 1 prospect for 2 active players....that's not half the team...

either way LA won't do it

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26 Jan 2012 14:53:46
BOS trade: Seguin and Thomas
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TOR for: Gustavvson, Colborne and Kadri

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Pretty sure Boston knows they won the round in which they ended up with Seguin. I highly doubt they are interested in un doing that. Kadri won't ever come close to the player Seguin is now.

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Beyond ALL other arguable points in the silly post, I ask you this:

Do you think Boston is going to want to meet Tim Thomas in the 1st round of the play-offs?? I think not.

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BOS would with 98% guarantee never trade seguin to Toronto. BB would have to majorly over pay.... What motivation would one of the best teams have to start breaking up there team... Use your heads people...

Leaf fan

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stupid trade

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Great trade for Toronto, Stupid trade for Boston.

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WHy do you both commenting on these types of trades? They are not Leaf fans posting them and they are clearly jokes...let's boycott these

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B.B. will do it . He'll give you 2 1sts a 2nd and lifetime seats to all Leafs games

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26 Jan 2012 14:34:57
Will Calgary make another trade before or at the deadline

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Yes. To Montreal Mike Cammalleri. To Calgary Rene Bourque.

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Two weeks ago calles and said, The Bourque Camaliari thing was funny two weeks ago... That's how stupid that response post is... I resorted to a worse joke ten was posted

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Bourque trade lookin good for habs now knew all along it would cammaleri has to much of an ego problem talking about how bad his team was playing when he was proberly the worst of all at the time

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26 Jan 2012 13:45:52
ruttu and ward to toronto and carolina gets gunnerson,monstor and kadri.

ruutu is in prime with 60 points last year. Ward would be solid with leafs defense and carolina has alot of prospects to build from
and 19 goals.

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I don't understand why Carolina would want to trade Ward? The only spot on the team that is not a problem.

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I like this. Carolina gets great defense and real good forward in Kadri.

Monstor is good and Carolina can look for good compliment to Monstor.

Leafs get big 6 man forwrad and good playoff goalie great deal

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Ruutu will be traded...hope the leafs don't overpay as he is a ufa

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I like the trade, but we will have to give up Schenn and kulemin and the monster. The #1 reason is because of the cap space. the canes will also have to put in a pick or a prospect. I like the initial thought.

Long time leaf fan!

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Moneyyyyyy, think about it

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I think you might need to pay more for ward and ruttu. maybe a 2nd pick?

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Overpaying hugely for ruutu. Sorry but this trade is closer to a package for Staal than ruutu. Too much youth throw in komiserik take out Kadri and Gustovsson

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Sorry keep monster and put in komiserik take out Kadri

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THERE IS SOME GOOD POSSIBILTIES HERE. I like Toronto now, so keep core guys and bring in ward and ruttu without breaking decent chemistry

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Ppeple are giving on reimer to quickly

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26 Jan 2012 12:21:18
schenn plus a 2nd rd pick for next year for pk subban

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No thanks to that trade,the habs would have to give the 2nd rounder

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Doesn't really help either team. Both the Leafs and Habs need a front line center and some bigger wingers. They would be better used in trades to get these kinds of players.

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Who do you want in your dressing room
Luke or PK

No deal

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Luke or P u K e

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Do it

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Dont want that PuKe on the team.

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Puke Schenn ... no thanks. Overrated and makes way too much for nothing. He will get traded but not to the habs.

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A. Burke would never trade schenn for PK
B. If that EVER happened the leafs would not be the team adding a pick to make it fair...i would rather schenn over PK any day of the week!

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I would honestly stop watching leafs games... PK is not one of those guys you hate on someone else's team but love on your own, you just hate him. Period.

And if Montreal fans love him, have him :)

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Talent is almost equal, but schenn has no attitude issues, montreal would have to send the 2nd to TORONTO to make it work. Schenn will be the better player and has proven to be a good leader. If his play was more consistent, he'd be wearing an A when grabo or komi get dealt

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PK Subban has way more potential than Schenn.......would be a bad trade for the canadiens

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Subban is a selfish player no doubt about it... He belongs to Washington where there's many of them(Ovechkin, Semin, etc...)

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Talent is the same this must be a joke tor makes this trade in a heartbeat not only do they get a better player but they clear up enough cap room to actually make a trade at the deadline

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Everyone knows PK is a cancer in the dressing room. As much as he may have great potential, Schenn also has also stepped up his play as he usually does as season continues, Burke understands PK's problems and will never trade a solid D for a distraction, why disrupt a young dressing room

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If PKs biggest issue is that he talks too much and pushes peoples buttons, a good coach/captain etc. should be able to take care of those things...and if that's the reason he gets traded, the failure is half from the team and half from the player...

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26 Jan 2012 09:36:08
Tor: Malhotra, Higgins
Van: Crabb, MacArthur

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I would rather just keep Crabb and Macarthur

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Are you guys feeling Ok?

That's a pointless trade.

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Why would the leafs give a top 6 forward and a 3rd liner for a 4th line centre and a 3rd pairing dman?

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Oops a 3rd liner, not dman

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26 Jan 2012 06:24:40
to dal: derek roy

to buf: steve ott and a 2nd round dp

to dal: pk subban, travis moen and danny kristo

to mtl: scott glennie, nik grossman, philip larsen and a 1st

go st louis go

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Sabres get ripped LOL

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Habs get ripped too

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Dallas made out like bandits on this trade. must be a stars fan.

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26 Jan 2012 04:55:34
stagan for blake

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Why can't people spell STAJAN its pronounced stay-jan, not stay-gan

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"g" and "j" can have the same sound in certain english words such as: Gauge, page, age, splurge...

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26 Jan 2012 04:54:40
to cgy: roy
to buf: tanguay, 3rd rounder, cameron, moss

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Too much salary to take on for buffalo already being the highest spending team.

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Good luck buffalo, you will miss this year.

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26 Jan 2012 04:31:02
Trade

Tor: Nash, third round pick
Clb: kadri, schenn, first rounder.

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I like how u think tor is giving up so much u better put a 3rd on cbj, LEAFS SUCK

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Nash is not going anywhere

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Does not work. Nash is $7.8mil cap hit for 7 1/2 years. They'd have to take Komi and we keep Kadri . JM

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^ to the first comment...the DP added in is a balance...you see it alot when teams give up 1st round picks...it has nothing to do with what TO is giving up...and frankly that's a good payment for Nash...

@ JM
Komisarek would have to be added...and that means they keep Kadri as well

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Tor doesnt have cap room to take nash or getzlaf or ryan or lecaviler and other teams do not want there overpayed garbage in return to allow the deal to happen

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You're likely right, they keep Kadri too. JM

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Why does everyone talk like they know what they can do with the cap? Do you not think Burke will figure something out by either dumping salary or whatever he can pull? If Burke wants or can get Nash/Getzlaf, guess what? HE WILL! Its his job to. Not even a leaf fan but come on people. It's a rumor site, entertain urselves. I'm sure a GM of Burke's quality can pull a blockbuster like that if it was possible.

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Have to add grabovski to even out the salarys... then lower the draft pick to a 2nd rounder

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26 Jan 2012 04:16:47
La- Vanek and Regehr
Buf- Williams and 1st or 2nd draft pick and scuidari

Clb- Penner and Bernier 2nd draft pick
La- Carter

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La doesnt have a second draft pick

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These trades are not good. CBJ has mason, they don't reeeeeeally need bernier

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Yes Columbus has Mason. He's one step away from being put on waivers. Check the hockey news. They really do need Bernier.

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2nd trade ok 1st horrible

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26 Jan 2012 03:51:19
To Det:
Alex Semin

To Was:
4th Round Pick
5th Round Pick

Alex Semin will be in the KHL next year but it would be great to see him help out Detroit. Semin Playing Datsyuk or Zetterberg would be a great combo.

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The teams and the player aren't impossible... but listen, honestly the caps will have to get more in return... its more likely the Wings end up with a rental like Hemsky...

Plus, right now between 8th place and leading the Division with FLA, WSH is gonna be in a dog fight, and will need a roster player to move Semin

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Det is good fit for semin but this deal will not get him the price will be a decent prospect a third liner and a 2nd or 3rd

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DET: Semin

WAS: Holmstrom, 3rd dp

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Detroit is too loyal to the veterans.. holmstrom isnt going anywhere

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26 Jan 2012 03:44:20
Oilers get Suter, Ellis and 1st round draft pick

Predators get Ales Hemsky, 2nd round draft pick, Linus Omark, Shawn Horcoff & Andy Sutton

Oilers get Ryan Suter, who will be a free agent this year but the Oilers giving up Horcoff & Hemsky will have room for him. Suter knows the oilers have a future in front of them. Oilers also Ryan Ellis who I think will be a stud.

The Preds get Hemsky, and Horcoff will help them in the playoffs and Horcoff will add depth, and the Preds would probably resign hemsky. A pick that will probably be 32nd overall. (close to a late 1st rounder). Pick up Linus Omark who has potential and Andy Sutton who is huge, and will add depth.

I like it but maybe a bit unrealistic

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Would love it if it happened but there is no chance it does the preds are getting ripped off in this deal think before you post

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Nashville is really getting the short end of the stick...put in pajaarvi and gagner instead of Omark and Horcoff

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LMAO if the preds feel like getting screwed they can do that deal...Ellis wouldnt go if Weber or Suter got traded

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Ok seriously oilers fans are just as delusional as leafs fans, and when someone chirps a leafs fan and people say ohh jealous habs fAn.. Its really just an oilers fan mad cuz someones sugesting that superstar isnt going to edmonton

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Too many people seem to forget who is going to be a seller, and who is going to be a buyer... the preds are going to make the play-offs... they aren't the EDM farm system... NO WAY any deal like this happens...

Infact, I am not sure they will move either of the big name d man cuz it hurts their chances at winning

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I agree - Nashville will not be selling off assets - they are likely going to make a run. I'm an Edmonton Fan and sorry - but the proposed move is totally unrealistic, don't embarass us with this kind of stupitity...

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26 Jan 2012 03:10:24
To Mon: Mike Komiserak

To Tor: Tomas Kaberle

Kaberle loves it in Toronto and Montreal needs a stay at home defenseman. Not sure if Montreal fans would welcome him back.

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As a leaf fan, why would we do this?We have Gardiner, Gunnarson, Liles, and Phaneuf who are all better puck moving defencemen than Kaberle.
We have Schenn, Komisarek, Aulie, who are bigger and better forces than Kaberle
Franson who has possibly one of the best shots in the NHL and he is also better than Kaberle.

Kaberle is done and he would be the worst defenceman on Toronto if we brought him in.

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I agree Kaberle is cheaper and better than Komi but trade doesn't make sense.

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Just take him and keep Kaberle

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Remove Kaberle from the trade. To Mon: Komisarek. The end.

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Liles, gardiner, phaneuf... gunnerson... yea, I could see why you would think TOR needs a useless puck moving Dman... They don't have any... I think you should go stand in the corner.

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Mtl only offered komizerek 3 mil per season before he signed with tor and that was when he was still good why would they take him now at that price

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^ You failed to mention Luke... Also, most of the leafs defense can't get past the center ice to be a puck moving defense men.

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Didnt mention schenn because he rarely touches the puck but you did fail to mention Gardiner

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26 Jan 2012 03:01:30
rick nash and a 3rd for ryan getzlaf

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CBJ has to many centers and Ana has none after this

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26 Jan 2012 02:50:51
If Columbus is going to trade any one of their top tier players it will be Rick Nash, which is unfortunate because he's the only one who seems like wants to be there and help that team succeed. No GM in the league will take Jeff Carter's or James Wisniewski's contract for the price they're asking.

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If Nash wants to stay in CBJ then he most likely will given his NTC. duh.

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He also said he'd waive his NTC if Columbus asked him to if it helped benefit them more in the future than he would. DUH

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Columbus has many decisions to make. They are maxed out on the cap and last place in the league. If they decide to blow it up and rebuild, expensive players like Carter, Nash and the Wiz could be moved for prospects and picks.

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26 Jan 2012 02:44:14
TOR: MacArthur, Kadri
LA: Brown

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Yea lak must be like, "u know wat? Let's give up our captain for garbage."

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Garbage?At least they can score! But everyone is entitled 2 their own opinion no matter how stupid it is

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Kadri can score? Maybe with the Marlies. MacArthur can score .... well yeah, he finally did get a goal after a long stretch without one. Trade won't happen anyway.

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26 Jan 2012 02:37:41
TOR: Schenn, Grabovski, MacArthur
NSH: Weber

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Where is the 1st rd draft pick yo Nash or were you saving it toytade to Col or Ana

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^ Huh?

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FAIL.. so that's a garuanteed minimum of $23mill on your Dmen per year... we still gotta pay 2 goalies and 12 fwds... just sayin

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Need a centre

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26 Jan 2012 02:33:18
TOR: Gunnerson, MacArthur, Komi, Kadri, 3rd
NYR: Dubinsky, Stepan, McDonagh

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Maybe if NYR is sick of being at the top of the league. Otherwise, why would they do this?

-Hawky

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Yarks, how many times must we say:

1st place teams don't rebuild at the deadline. And the certainly dont take leaf calibre players. Ie show up win 2 then lose the next 3 style of hockey

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Why in the world would NY do this? I would love it but never in a million years!

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Why do people randomly through komi in these trade discussions? HE'S NOT GOING ANYWHERE. He's overrated and who wants his salary. Any team would be stupid to trade for that piece of garbage

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You cant use the term leaf calibre players it does not make sense, they are ahead of n.j. with your logic thats saying clarkson parise are no good because the leafs are tied with the devils

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Every team can get better...whether they are the best team in the league or not...

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26 Jan 2012 02:13:34
Suter to EDM to NSH Whitney,2nd DP

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Im an oilers fan and I dont like it, nor do I think a preds fan would

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That's a joke

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A healthy top teir defender, albeit a potential UFA - for a often injurded good but not great defender, with one more year until UFA. No way man, never, stop posting this stuff please.

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26 Jan 2012 01:57:09
VAN: Price
MTL: Luongo 2nd

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What about Schneider?

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Omg please. from a leaf fan.

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Trade Schneider and Ballard for a mediocre back up and top 4 defensman

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I think you may want the pick going the other way on this one...

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Ok... throw him in too!

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Van has to trade one of there goalies they need to add to there defense and get anonther backup in return this team isnt as good as last year and they dont need the goalie controversy any longer play one trade one

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Mike Gillis said on tv during the EDM@VAN game that hes not gonna move Schneider. He hasnt lied to the fans about anything since hes been here. Why trade him away @ $900000 when he is our insurance policy waiting to get cashed in if need be.

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Canucks need a back up goalie, if they trade Luo (wont happen) or schneider, they will be in trouble if Luo gets injured, the only way they trade a goalie is if it is for a top 6 proven scorer, or a top 4 dman.

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26 Jan 2012 01:48:42
P.K Subban may of been traded !
Waiting on reports .

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Subban has only played 5 mins . sitting and waiting ?

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To Canucks for Ballard,
TROLLOLOLoLOLOlOl

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He might be staying in Detroit , Gauthier is talking to Chicago . Deal is almost done .

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Hes not getting traded there teaching him a lesson not to play stupid which he is playing stupid

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To calgary for boumester

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He's not being traded

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Is he really gonna get traded... or is he not there because he got hurt or teachin him a lesson?

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Funny how he was only benched since taking the stupid penalty in the 1st period and came back 3rd period... It's common players get benched... What isnt is sending your players in a cab during a game...

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Habs pg is talking to kings gm not chicago? Isnt lombardi kings gm?

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Gauthier would be an person to trade Subban.

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He got sat becuase he took a stupid penatly he's not getting traded

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26 Jan 2012 01:48:23
gustavsson
luke scheen
kadri

for

eberle
5th round pick

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On behalf of all oiler fans id like to say shove it

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I know this sounds silly but it gets rather frustrating to see that no one knows how to spell luke's name..

its not sheen, scheen, schen, shen..
its SCHENN!

-Eggo

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I agree with the first and 2nd replies. Spell Schenn's name correctly, and then shove it...

-Hawky

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@Eggo, there's a simple little trick I use: If the person completely butcher's someone's name spelling I proceed to assume anything they say has zero merit.

DR.

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Eberle hall and rnh are not being traded anytime soon sam gagner maybe also s weber proberly aint going anywhere either

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How bout this?

To leafs. Eberle and paajarvi
To oilers. Kadri aulie macarthur 3rd dp

To leafs. Clowe
To sharks. Gunnerson grabovski

Lupul clowe kessel
Eberle connolly paajarvi
Kulemin bozak lombardi
Brown steckel armstrong
Crabb

Phanuef liles
Schenn komisarek
Gardiner franson
Holzer

Reimer
Gustavsson

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Let the Oilers keep their players... they are only going to loose them in a few years to free agency anyways. Why pay for what you can take for free!

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Not sure why you would assume that Edmonton would loose all of there prospects - ownership in Edmonton is very strong, Can $ is very strong, and sorry but if I was a young player or a UFA and wanted to play on a team that has a shot to win it all in hte next 5 years - Edmonton would be on the short list. Toronto - not.

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OMG, guess what? Leafs blow.

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The problem (and it's a good one) is that the Oilers have to pay for all that "talent" in a few seasons....they will need to move some cap is they intend to keep all their young players on the roster...

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They give clowe more value than eberle and paajarvi crazy trade

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26 Jan 2012 01:47:22
Maple Leafs acquire- Jeff Carter and a 5th round draft pick

Blue Jackets acquire- Clarke McCarthur, Mikail Grabovski, Keith Aulie and 3rd Round draft pick

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Darren dreger just said on thats hockey that the leafs have never inquired clb about carter and are not interested, yay!

-Eggo

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Yay! too many posting trades for #1 center that we don't need and during the process they suggest we should send away all of our secondary scoring. Get realistic guys.

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Dreger is the worst about knowing everything

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Burke would never want carters contract

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26 Jan 2012 01:39:54
TML acquire- Jeff Carter and 5th rounder

CBJ acquire- clarke McCarthur, Mikail Grabofski, kieth Aulie and 3rd round draft pick

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26 Jan 2012 00:23:44
Throwing out a proposal for a three-way trade between Nashville, Philadelphia and Toronto.

To TOR: Colin Wilson and James Van Riemsdyk
To PHI: Ryan Suter and Mikhail Grabovski
To NSH: Brayden Schenn, Luke Schenn, Nazem Kadri
and Toronto's 2nd Rd pick (obtained from
STL - see below)

To TOR: Chris Stewart and a 2nd Rd pick in 2012
To STL: Nikolai Kulemin and prospect Jerry D'Amigo

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Terrible trade

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So TML trades grabovski, schenn, kadri and a 2nd for wilson and jvr? no thanks.

-Eggo

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Awful trade

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Nashville already has good minor league players, they dont need any more who can play for the big club

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Should be able to get JVR for not much more than just Schenn if Philly has not found a Dman by the deadline. JM

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26 Jan 2012 00:10:08
tor: komasirik

for

cbj: 2th round pick

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Dont know y columbus wood do this but if im BB I grab and run

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Why would CBJ trade the 31st pick in the '12 draft for Komisarek?

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They don't have the cap space...

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Leafs should do something like this. Komi's cap hit is $4.5mil for 2 more years but his paycheck is only $3.5mil. Attractive to a team below the floor and he's still a 5th or 6th Dman. JM

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26 Jan 2012 00:03:50
kadri
scheen
colburne
1st round pick

for

nugen-hockmens
eberle

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Never knew Toronto had Charlie sheen or where this nugen-hockmens came from is he German? check urself b4 u wreck urself

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Whos nugen hockmen

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Nugen-Hockmens sounds like a cheap knockoff shoe store. Just adding to Leaf fans credibility on anything.

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New to hockey?

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Sounds like new to engrish...

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So you want a rookie who until getting injured was on pace with your top 2 and Eberle who will probably end up a 70 pts a season player for Kadri still finding himself
Colburne still developing
Schenn a lot like Smid
and a 1 st rd pick
Would you do it if those 2 played for the Leafs and the Oilers offered you 3 plus a pick. Not

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Andy sutton for kessel same trade as what you are proposing

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Good attempt at getting Leafs and Oilers fans fired up...

A habs fan wrote this

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Schenn, Franson, Kadri

Eberle, Whitney

Edmonton has no players in their system with as much defensive potential as Schenn and Franson...

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HAHA says Edmonton

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Interesting - Edmonton has inferior defense prospects? Petry, Klefbom, Marincin, Musil, etc. Granted Toronto has excellant D prospects but its not like Edmonton has nothing coming up - and trading away what has been built on the forwards isn't simply going to replace one problem with another.

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^^ Fair enough...Edmonton's biggest issue this year has been defense and in this case Petry, Klefborn, Marincin and Musil are names in comparison to Schenn and Franson...

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25 Jan 2012 23:45:28
Tor: Carter and a 7th dp

Cbj: Connolly and Kadri

Then;

Tor: Penner

LA: Komisarek

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Forget penner, hes way too much for the way he plays.hes another gomez type of player

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Ya but his contract is up at the end of the year but komi isnt

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Ya his contract is up but he will still suk leafs say not interested

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