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05 Mar 2024 14:10:49
3 Way Trade:


SEA Trades:

- Wennberg to CHI (50% retained)


CHI Trades:

- Wennberg to NYR (50% retained)


NYR Trades 3 Assets to SEA:

- 2nd ('24)
- 5th ('25)
- Othman

NYR Trades 1 Asset to CHI for retention:

- 6th ('24)


- NYR receives Wennberg at a cap hit of $246,093.
- SEA receives Othman & 2 picks
- CHI receives a 4th for retention.

05 Mar 2024 14:50:05
They able to do the double 50% retention?

05 Mar 2024 15:47:20
I think his cap is 4.5M / 2 = 2.25M / 2 = 1.125M. I think a 2nd is too much for Wennberg, Othmann definitely is.

05 Mar 2024 16:08:00
Wennberg has all the tools to be an effective top 6 guy. He just struggles with consistency and goes through some wicked cold spells which makes it difficult to gauge where his value is at. NYR is definitely looking to make a move or two to really bolster the lineup for a long playoff run.

05 Mar 2024 16:24:32
MG: Yes, you can have two teams retaining 50%, but the second team is only retaining 50% of the half of the contract they retained. (Essentially, the team ending up with the asset is getting a 75% discount on the player. )

05 Mar 2024 16:26:01
EBS: It's going to be VERY interesting to see where this goes. The center market is REALLY tight, and someone is going to overpay. My guess is that it will be the Rangers, but I guess we'll all know soon. the silly season is upon us! : )

06 Mar 2024 00:57:45
Othman is going no where’s.

29 Feb 2024 01:19:01
After season. If rumours are true petterson and van are having difficulty, so to Chicago for 2024 1st(tb) , 2025 1st(Chicago) 2025 1st(tor). Big jump for both but if petterson doesn't wanna resign, throwing it out there.

29 Feb 2024 15:29:43
If VCR can't work out a deal with Petterson, and they actually did trade him, they'd want a player who can help them now for a Cup run instead of futures, IMHO.

29 Feb 2024 16:16:19
From what I've seen an 8yr. deal is imminent and likely to be signed in the coming days so Pettersson can stay a Canuck. If things fall through then I'm assuming whoever is making a trade to get him will get to discuss an extension before hand and the return will be astronomical.

26 Feb 2024 18:44:31
I have a creative 3 way trade similar to the trade that brought Ryan O'Reilly to The Leafs.

Chicago Trades Gust (AHL) to Washington for Mantha and The Capitals retain 50% of Mantha's expiring contract.

Toronto Trades a 1st Round Pick 2024 and their 2024 3rd Round Pick (NYI Pick) to The Capitals for Gust.

Chicago Trades Mantha with Chicago retaining another 50% of Mantha's expiring contact to The Leafs for NRobertson.

So in the end Washington trades Mantha retaining half his salary and getting a 1st Round Pick and a 3rd Round Pick in 2024 from Toronto.
Chicago gets NRobertson and retaining another 50% of Mantha's contract.
And Toronto gets Mantha and Gust.
With 2 retaining of 50% by both Washington and Chicago yes Toronto can fit Mantha into their cap.


Thoughts ?

26 Feb 2024 20:32:28
Toronto passes. A 1st, 3rd and Robertson for a 30 year old ahler and Mantha who when healthy is an average hockey player. No thanks.

24 Feb 2024 21:06:25
Mtl- send Gallagher 25 %retain and wpg 1st pick to Chicago

Then

Chicago retain half of Gallagher 5m
To EDM for Campbell and EDM 1st pick

Chicago get to first pick to retain 2.5m salary on Gally and take Campbell

EDM gain a little cap space , a good depth player in Gallagher at 2.5m

Habs give Gallagher a chance to win a cup in his hometown and free 5m cap space for the next 3year

Then
EDM pursue vatrano in Anh for Holloway-2 Nd pick 2025

25 Feb 2024 16:54:34
- I firmly believe Gally would jump at the chance to play in EDM, and that he’d be a great depth add at the right cap hit.

- a MTL 1st for seems steep, but it may well be market value for this deadline.

- Good one BFG?.

25 Feb 2024 17:28:14
I don't think it's worth it to give away a 1st round pick from MTL's perspective, as they can tank Gallagher's contract for 2-3 years and opt for a buyout afterwards if need be. They don't have any significant players to re-sign for the next 2 years and they have some contracts coming off the books in the next 2, notably Allen, Dvorak and Petry's retention which combine for a little over 10M. With the cap ceiling reportedly going up significantly for the next few years, I just don't really think MTL needs that cap space anyways, unless they trade for another RFA who will commend a significant cap hit.

25 Feb 2024 21:19:08
@matador12 they definitely don't need to trade Gally, but I think they do this deadline or offseason so he can have another crack at winning a cup.

25 Feb 2024 21:39:39
@MG69 it's a possibility, but I doubt Hughes really wants to part ways with one of his high draft picks just for Gallagher to have a chance to win a cup with a playoff team. MTL's management likes the person, but hopefullyy there's a limit to what they will do to accomodate him.

26 Feb 2024 01:06:09
@matador12 if they retain on Gally and get a third team involved they shouldn't need to part with any draft capital. Good chance that Jets pick is a later round pick anyways so I can see Hughes being open to moving it. got to look at it like this, that cap space opens the door for taking a bad contract and potentially getting more draft capital back as well or signing a multiple players to fill out the lineup. The Habs aren't too far off from being back in the playoff hunt and they have a lot jam of young dman that they can dangle for more help upfront.

26 Feb 2024 08:17:25
Unload Gallagher contract give massive cap space. Habs will already have 15 M in cap space. Now will have 20M to make a big splash. Make a forward roster spot in the bottom six for a more physical guy (cheaper) or younger like Joshua roy or henneiman.

27 Feb 2024 16:57:14
Future dcore imo would look like this:
Matheson reinbacher
Hutson Guhle
Mailloux (xehkaj or struble)

22 Feb 2024 02:53:46
Mtl- Savard half retain- 3rd pick 2024

Dal- bourque- 1st pick 2024

At the draft

Mtl- gallagher-1st pick wpg 2024-1st pick dal 2024

Too San Jose, Anaheim or Chicago

For future consideration

Then offer guentzel
5 year 50 M

22 Feb 2024 04:12:15
I actually like the Bourque trade a lot, I don’t think it’s too far off tbh. I don’t think they should dump Gallagher tho, he’s an important leader on that team. Maybe they should use those assets in a package for Zegras if he’s available.

22 Feb 2024 13:09:01
- Good one BFG - I think you're bang on with your asset valuations.

- Two 1sts to get rid of Gally's 3 years @ 6.5M is fair, but crippling, when considering the opportunity cost of what those two 1st round picks could be used for in a trade "for" something.

- Gally has been a good soldier for the Habs, and I think they'll do right by him. Perhaps he wants to go somewhere I think they'll make it happen, such as going home to EDM or something like that.

- For example, if the Gally wanted to go to EDM this summer, maybe they could trade his 3 x 6.5M for Campbell's 3 x 5M, and retain whatever some $ to make it work for EDM. (It would be wrong to bury Gally in the minors, but the Habs don't have anything invested in Campbell. The Habs could retain to make the dollars work and make sure Gally was left to finish his career honourably. He's earned that. )

- A buyout would take 6 looooong years at -333K, 2.1M, 4.6M, 2.1M, 2.1M, & 2.1M. I suspect Gally & the Habs will work out something honourable to allow them both to move on the right way.

22 Feb 2024 13:18:58
I wouldn't do the Guentzel signing though, and I'm not sure Zegras is the right trade target.

I know high end talent is hard to find, but his defensive play makes his net offense contribution far less meaningful. Some scorers get it, and some don't. He's a human highlight reel, but I'm not sure he's the kind of guy that helps win a championship. He feels more like a Johnny Gaudreau.

22 Feb 2024 13:20:03
That would be a great add for the Habs! Value wise I think it's there, my only thing is would Dallas want to part with him. Pavelski, Benn, and Seguin are not getting younger and eventually they will need to be replaced. There's free agency or there's the homegrown route. Do they move a player they've developed into a very promising player or move on from him. I don't know what the answer is to that, but the addition of Savard would sure up their defense even more for a playoff run.

23 Feb 2024 01:20:45
@Chickenfoot that Gaudreau comparison seems really accurate actually lol

23 Feb 2024 04:34:20
I see this

Habs lose Gallagher, Monahan Savard

Gain Bourque and guentzel

(Still have the first cgy pick for Monahan)

Salary wise it balanced and I rather have guentzel over zegras, more complete 2 way player, and playoff experience. 10 M maybe a little overpay but it's mtl. Taxes, media, you have to op a little.

16 Feb 2024 21:50:17
Anaheim Trades
Lybushkin*
2nd Round Pick 2024 (Boston's Pick)

Toronto Trades
Liljegren
5th Round Pick 2024 (Chicago's Pick)

*Anaheim retains 50% of Lybuskin's expiring contract.


Leafs get a known Defenceman in Lybushkin who was with Toronto a few seasons ago and he will give them some thump on the backend, getting a 2nd Rounder is a must giving up Liljegren in this proposal.

Ducks all in for a rebuild so this makes sense for what they need to do for the future, trading off a player who probably won't resign and replace him with a younger Defender with upside and controlling contract as an upcoming RFA not a UFA.



Thoughts ?

17 Feb 2024 14:36:03
I think Toronto addes or higher draft pick. not equal value.

17 Feb 2024 15:13:24
balsam8
Lybushkin was traded from Buffalo to Anaheim for a 5th Round Pick, in the end Anaheim gets Liljegren for a 2nd and 5th Rounder that's about right imo.

17 Feb 2024 15:49:37
- Boosh will be a nice depth addition for a team, especially on an expiring deal.

- Lilly is way overvalued in this transaction, and where’s the compensation for ANA retaining?

19 Feb 2024 11:46:06
Who is Timothy Lillejgren?

05 Feb 2024 18:48:52
Couple Hawks trade ideas.

CHI: Connor Murphy (50% Retained), VAN 2024 2nd
TOR: TOR 2024 1st, Noah Chadwick

CHI: Tyler Johnson (50% Retained), TOR 2026 2nd, OTT 2024 3rd
NYR: Kaapo Kakko, Zac Jones

CHI: Lukas Reichel, TBL 2024 1st
ANA: Trevor Zegras

CHI: Boris Katchouk
Any Contender: 5th

06 Feb 2024 22:21:17
Not sure teams will give out more value like a first for 2nd and 3rds. Like for your first trade, I think toronto is more likely to give a 2nd or a 3rd + for Murphy instead of giving a 1st and getting back a 2nd

08 Feb 2024 13:24:27
I think the first and second trades are close imo but that Zegras one is really bad. I don’t know too much about Katchouk so idk about the last one.

26 Dec 2023 04:41:47
Edm: Campbell, broberg, 1st, 2nd. Chi: jaxon stauber. Chicago pretty perfect spot because chicago is in no plan to win anytime soon, Campbell backup up mrzek and send soderblom down because he's struggling. Campbell can split time next year with a young guy and chi can buy him out anytime in the few years when they decide to start spending again.

23 Nov 2023 21:10:17
Chi: mrazek, Phillips edm: Campbell, broberg, 1st, 26'2nd. Saves Edmonton 1.2mil, mrazek playing good this year and gives Edmonton in position to be free of all bit spinners contract after this year. add 22 year old nhl readyish defenseman. And Chicago gets more building blocks for ahl goalie making 5 mil for 3 and half more years. Probably a buyout after next year or after that.

23 Nov 2023 20:44:04
Chi: Murphy, perry(50%) to tml: klingberg, domi, 3rd, 4th. Who knows who's on klingberg no trade clause but domi liked chicago. Tml save 700k and get solid rd and perry great 4th line and 2nd pp. Chicago just takes the worst contract this offseason, domi can play with Bedard and get a couple picks.

23 Nov 2023 23:05:44
I'm gonna up it to a 2nd, 3rd. Instead of 3rd and 4th.

27 Nov 2023 11:59:27
No offer jn the league would make the leafs move Klingberg or Domi they choose to come here.

23 Nov 2023 16:49:38
2 trade proposals for The Leafs.

First Proposal.
Calgary Trades
Tanev

Toronto Trades
Klingberg
Kokkonen (AHL)



Second Proposal.
Chicago Trades
(Future Considerations)

Toronto Trades
Reaves
Abruzzese (AHL)


Calgary might get more from another team but with Bogosian going to Minnesota from TB for a 7th Round Pick and Tanev being comparable my proposal imo is similar.

Chicago with a ton of Cap add a policeman for Bedard plus a prospect for really nothing.

Toronto gets a Defenceman much needed in Tanev and Klingberg might be done but it solves that mystery of what to do with his contract, these 2 proposals both improves Defense and adds Cap to active Connor Timmons as well, and if PKane decides to play in Toronto for a minimum one year contract this would give The Leafs enough to do this or just recall McMann or some other AHLer.



Thoughts ?

23 Nov 2023 17:45:34
Come on Pinball. Tanev gets a good prospect plus a good pick. Leafs will need to pay to rid themselves of Klingberg.

23 Nov 2023 18:13:19
Leafs will not trade Klingberg even if the oilers offered McDavid straight up. Klingberg chose Toronto last season and wants to be a leaf.

23 Nov 2023 18:55:00
Coulson
Bogosian was traded this season from TB to Minnesota for a 7th Round Pick, Tanev and Bogosian are very comparable so to think Tanev will get a good prospect and a high draft pick, than you really aren't accept Tanev isn't worth more than a late round pick just like Bogosian.
Ask yourself why Tanev would be worth more than Bogosian, unless you really haven't watch either Tanev and Bogosian play.

23 Nov 2023 20:34:49
Pinball, everybody here knows you don't watch hockey. Equal players. if you don't watch hockey, at least read about it.

24 Nov 2023 15:24:09
Bogasian cap dump to activate Fluery from injury. We finally found a player VB likes. Klingberg of all players. ??.

26 Nov 2023 04:08:31
Accept tansv plays solid top 4 minutes and boggasian is a 6 to 7 d at most don't really see tansv being scratched.

23 Nov 2023 03:21:34
Chicago Trades
CMurphy*

Toronto Trades
Brodie+
Reaves
Voit (AHL)
1st Round Pick 2024

*Chicago retains 50% of CMurphy's remaining contract

+Brodie would have to accept the trade having a NTC in his contract.


Leafs are in a position of having to shed contract if they want to improve in other areas, this would do that and also give them a tougher Brodie type in CMurphy who shoots Right and would fit nicely with Rielly.

Black Hawks are in stage 1 of their rebuild and adding a 1st Rounder and a pretty good prospect in Voit would seal a proposal like this, plus Reaves on the team gives Bedard even more protection, Brodie obviously replaces CMurphy and could be flipped at the trading deadline for more future assets.



Thoughts ?

23 Nov 2023 12:39:50
Idk, I feel like the Hawks could get a better offer that meets their needs if they were to trade Murphy with 50% retention.

23 Nov 2023 17:48:22
Terrible for Toronto. Reaves' contract was not worth our best defensive dman a 1st and a decent prospect. Murphy is needed but Brodie is not the player to trade.

25 Nov 2023 21:43:23
Brodie is better then Murphy. How about Morgan Rielly instead of Brodie?

Brodie carry’s the leafs defence on his back and won’t be moved. Without Mathews the leafs have Tavares but without Brodie the leafs have no elite defensive dman. He is truly the most valuable player to the leafs system.

05 Oct 2023 19:31:46
Chicago Trades
2nd Round Pick 2024*

Toronto Trades
Jarnkrok

*Chicago decides what 2nd Rounder The Leafs will receive of their 3 at The Draft in 2024.

Clears enough space for a 22 Man Roster on Toronto to get just under The Cap.


Thoughts ?

05 Oct 2023 20:33:41
Large overpay by Chicago. It's difficult to imagine anyone offering up a 2nd for Jarnkrok. It would need to be maybe a 6th or 7th.

05 Oct 2023 23:26:22
maybe a 5th will do it.

06 Oct 2023 02:39:23
What Defensive 20 goal scorers go for a 7th. would give up Hall or Athanesiou for 7th? Please be realistic.

Minimum a 3rd if not with a prospect.

06 Oct 2023 03:15:46
Another leaf that's worth nothing unless there's retained or draftpicks included. Might be able to trade him to a team with cap that requires an overpaid bottom 6.for a 5th-7th, or future considerations.

06 Oct 2023 13:01:20
- the leafs are 2.9M over the cap, and Jarnkrok makes 2.1M. To allow for in-season call-ups the leafs will need to clear about 3.9M.

- a rebuilding team like CHI wants to acquire as many picks and prospects as possible. Trading for a 32 year-old with term isn't what rebuilding teams do.

- Jarnkrok is in year 2 of a 4 year deal. He is out-producing his contract, and if the leafs really wanted to get rid of him I'm sure a contender would take a serious look at him. He's a positive asset, but not for a rebuilding team. He has a 10-team NTC so he'll have some input on where he goes, if he goes.

06 Oct 2023 15:58:44
Chickenfoot
When Muzzin, MMurray are put on LTIR and NRobertson is sent to The AHL The Leafs are over The Cap by exactly 1,272.283.
So your calculations are way off.

06 Oct 2023 20:28:29
So how is a defensive minded forward capable (and doing it) of getting 20 goals worth only a 5th? Especially at just over 2 mill a year. The Leaf hate is just as real as the Pinball pro Leaf bias.

07 Oct 2023 18:04:46
Ugh, jarnkrok can easily be replaced so worth nothing. Hes capable of 20 goals because he did it once and he's 32. Not room for growth. At least he's one of 3 players they can trade. They'll get nothing because its getting close to cap compliant time.

07 Oct 2023 18:08:02
And whole premise is ridiculous, chicago not giving up draft picks for a plug, young guys will be fine.

09 Oct 2023 05:32:02
PINBALL: those salary figures came straight from Capfriendly and were 100% accurate. As for Robertson, you can’t demote an injured player to the farm. He simply stays on the IR until he’s healthy.

09 Oct 2023 12:57:18
Chickenfoot
Now Toronto is 1,752.717 under The Cap, and Robertson isn't injured he played in the preseason and he is waiver exempt, and was demoted to The Marlies.
So again false information.

10 Oct 2023 00:35:48
PINBALL:

- Robertson and his shoulder injury skated with the leafs second group as of Sept. 21, and he was sent down earlier today, which is Oct. 9th.

- my post is time-stamped above as 7 hours plus before your post, and it was 100% accurate when posted.

- I endeavour to be accurate, but I’m happy to own it when I’m wrong. I am happy to confirm that I am quoting a reliable source in cap friendly at the time of my post.

- I will be happy to let facts speak for themselves, and I would put my record of what I’ve put forward against your own for anyone to judge, any day of the week.

- I’m not sure if you can tell, but I am taking great pains to reply to you respectfully. Regardless, I am accurate, and you do you.

05 Oct 2023 15:21:59
Chicago Trades
CMurphy

Toronto Trades
Jarnkrok
Brodie
MJones

Thoughts ?

05 Oct 2023 19:07:22
Murphy is one player chicago wont trade, his role is he plays and helps develop young guys so he's untouchable. Plus 2 pieces chicago has absolutely no need or want. Brodie is a fine middle defenseman. Murphy is cheaper which works for the leafs but not chicago.

06 Oct 2023 13:09:32
- as Shoots said, this helps the leafs out of a jam, but a rebuilding team is looking for picks and prospects, not 3 guys that are 32-33 years old.

- Jones is the leaf goalie most likely to hit waivers, and Tampa will definitely be scouring waiver lists for a stopgap, veteran goalie to help fill in while Vasilevsky convalesces.

08 Oct 2023 21:45:47
And now Jones is on waivers so free for anyone.

01 Oct 2023 00:18:01
3way Trade


Ott- 3rd pick mtl 2024

Habs- Joseph


Chi-

Gallagher-ott 1st 2024-mtl 1st 2025
Barron- ylonen

Anaheim or Philly maybe?

Ottawa clears 3m for pinto
Cost them to swap a late first for a early 3rd

Mtl-take Joseph contract, 1st mid pick in 2025 3 Rd pick 2024 and Habs still have cgy one, and give two b minus prospect because have too much contract

Chicago?Anaheim? Philly maybe?

01 Oct 2023 17:40:18
seems to be alot for Joseph. one veteran, two younger and a first round?

03 Oct 2023 17:22:16
If I'm reading this correctly it seems like MTL is trading some major assets for Joseph, so it's a quick no from MTL.

Joseph is as unspectacular as it gets, so beyond OTT's need to clear him from the books, I'm not sure why MTL would give up so many assets to help OTT get cap relief?

03 Oct 2023 22:31:34
Ottawa isn't exchanging a 1st and Joseph for a 3rd and nothing. might as well make the trade pinto and joseph for the 3rd.

23 Sep 2023 16:41:13
Chicago Trades
Future Considerations

Toronto Trades
Brodie
NRobertson

Chicago has the cap and could use a veteran defenceman that can be traded at the deadline with salary retained, Brodie at 2.5 million if Chicago retains half of his salary and any team needing a defenceman at the deadline would probably be able to afford that, adding NRobertson is the sacrifice Toronto has to make to shed that salary.
Leafs can then add a defenceman like a Peeke or Lyubushkin to play with Rielly and be under the cap.


Thoughts ?

23 Sep 2023 17:25:31
I thought Robertson was going to be the next Marner so why trade him?

23 Sep 2023 17:51:17
You’re a lost record man. No leaf’s fan besides you wants Brodie gone he’s the leafs best dman. If anything why wouldn’t the give Rielly away if he makes 2 million more. Rielly isn’t as good defensively and Klingberg can replace his offence.

23 Sep 2023 18:09:46
Who ever said Robertson would be the next Marner? And Brodie is far from great vb. He is a good 3/ 4 dman.

23 Sep 2023 21:55:09
vbbbvvbb
So please tell me who goes to get the cap under the limit?
Lafferty isn't enough, the only one that makes sense is Brodie because of the 5 million cap hit, this gives The Leafs enough cap to replace Brodie if need be, or sign Patrick Kane if he decides to sign in Toronto, subtraction for addition in trading Brodie.

24 Sep 2023 03:47:10
Chicago is done for now they said, but Brodie gets traded maybe to a team that equals salary that has too many winger. Or Toronto sends more for eating his entire salary, like picks or better prospects.

24 Sep 2023 16:21:26
Let me think. Lets trade our best defensive defenceman retain 2.5 million and trade honey baker winner who costs us nothing against the cap and is waiver exempt for nothing. man what are you thinking?

Would you trade Connor Murphy retain 2.5 and Lukas Rychel for nothing?

24 Sep 2023 22:08:56
Morgan Rielly should go before Brodie.

25 Sep 2023 16:29:53
Bm4, Murphy is better than brodie and reichel is a lot better then Robinson so no. Chicago doesn't have cap issues so no. The only reason pinball pushing to trade brodie is hes like one of 4 guys they can trade. And the only one to get under cap. I really don't know what a honey competition has to do with hockey.

25 Sep 2023 19:50:45
On what planet is Murphy better then Brodie?

26 Sep 2023 16:15:31
Brodie is our best defensive dman; he however is not worth his $5mill cap hit he unfortunately makes. I'd be okay if we unloaded Kampf instead. We have some guys who can fill that role and it should free up the needed cap space.

26 Sep 2023 19:10:18
- with so many teams needing cap relief, and so few teams who can offer it, no one is taking 33 year-old Brodie at 5M and the perpetually injured Robertson for nothing. It'll take assets to create space in this current marketplace.

- the leafs need to shed 3M in cap space, which is really 4M to allow for in-season call-ups. They also need to add a truly defensive D-man to shore up a blueline with an average age of 30. There are some real question marks on the leaf blue line to all but the most hard-core true believers. (My leaf fan buddies rightfully see it as a major concern. )

- While Brodie is an obvious candidate, I think some of the trades attributed to Nylander on here make more sense. A Nylander trade could bring back a D-man which will be much needed. (ideally someone who can skate and make up for lapses by Klinger, who simply can't outscore is defensive shortcomings. )

- Treliving is a seasoned hockey manager. I suspect he'll pull a fairly big surprise, possibly with a Nylander trade, rather than risk losing him like Gaudreau as a UFA. He's been around long enough to understand what his roster truly needs.

30 Aug 2023 03:43:30
Tor: nylander, brodie....chi: Allen, guttman, athanasiou. Chicago is stacked with young left de, Allen would be the first round pick, athanasiou scored 20 on a terrible team, guttman great bottom 6. Nylander is him, Toronto gets there cap relief. Chicago is rebuilding but I think nylander would still be young enough in a few years.

30 Aug 2023 04:34:50
Reichel is gonna need help so chicago can give up a strength, maybe chicago adds a draft pick but tops a 3rd round but taking brodies salary would take away from nylander.

30 Aug 2023 05:34:22
I think I've made reasonable arguments
I try to be unbiased.

30 Aug 2023 13:42:03
Nolan Allan, Cole Guttman and Andreas Athanasiou wouldn't be enough to fetch both Nylander and Brodie imo. I think Leafs say no. Good post though, completely different than what we normally see.

01 Sep 2023 13:25:56
SHOOTS: you are definitely an unbiased cat who makes reasonable arguments, no question.

In this kind of cap environment it may be worth it to the leafs to take a lower return to move Nylander and Brodie to create the cap space to facilitate another move, so I can certainly see what you're getting at. Interesting take Shoots.

26 Aug 2023 00:49:56
Nylander trades

Chicago: Nylander 6.9 and Timmins 1.1 for Connor Murphy 4.4 Taylor Raddysh 0.795 and 1st.

26 Aug 2023 06:33:20
I doubt Chicago trades any of their firsts considering it could be a top 5 pick.

27 Aug 2023 16:04:58
Well truthfully Nylander is etabilshed 1at top pick Then you have contingency of 1st and 2nd the following year if top 10 or highest 1st round pick that not theirs.

27 Aug 2023 16:13:19
Chicago is a rebuilding team, Nylander is 27 and will be a UFA next season. Not only that, they're extremely weak on defense so trading someone like Murphy wouldn't make too much sense. A lot of reasons to why this trade makes no sense for Chicago, good post though at least it's different than what we usually see on this site.

28 Aug 2023 01:38:36
Casual nailed it?.

29 Aug 2023 16:09:17
Nylander return gonna be underwhelming for leafs fans. Murphy is chicagos best defenseman so they'd like him to be paired with one of the young guys. Casual covered most of it. Raddysh is a 20 goal guy for under a million, hes got to be worth a ton to a cap riddled team like Toronto. So him and vlasic and a 3rd for nylander id say would work.

30 Aug 2023 05:24:55
I'll go à 2nd cause chicago has a ridiculous amount of 2nd and 3rds. My opinion they need reichel help. What would they need to pry nylander away?

25 Aug 2023 21:02:29
Habs- armia-desmith 3rd pick 2025

Chi- future consideration


Mtl- ylonen

Ott- Mathieu Joseph

Habs will be under the cap without putting price on ltir, so no penalty next year and get a good bottom 6 forward , younger than armia(put Rhp and Harris in Ahl and call them up as soon as season begin)

Ottawa gain cap flexibility to sign pinto and have a cheaper bottom 6 forward in ylonen

Chicago get decent asset, armia will be good on pk and on a 3rd line and desmith will be a good backup because marazek is always injured and give time to soderblom to bloom lol

26 Aug 2023 00:21:48
Can't see chicago doing that trade. There's now where to put armia. They already have fourteen forwards but could send guttman down. They got commesso in ahl And I'm positive they want soderblom or stauber getting nhl time instead of an old guy.

28 Aug 2023 01:40:12
The first trade is pretty generous to MTL.

14 Aug 2023 06:27:21
Calgary: Hanifan ,4th Washington: kunetzov, 2.5 retained, oshie, 2nd , 4th. Chicago: retained and oshie. Calgary gets kunetzov and Washington 4th. Washington gets Hanifan. Chicago gets Washington
2nd and Calgary's 4th. . Reason is all teams cap compliant , oshie is old and overpaid but Chicago can handle his contract. Hanifan and kunetzov want out. Chicago gets another veteran that could flip next deadline if he plays well or keep him for q more year.

 
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