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16 May 2019 12:31:21
Oilers: RnH and 8th overall

Chicago: 3rd overall

Chicago gets a elite Center and a good pick

And oilers gets their future no1 defender (byram)

As a oilers fan i'm all over this trade , what do you guys say? Is it fair/likely?

16 May 2019 13:29:45
Nuge isn’t an elite center, if he was you wouldn’t give him up to move up 5 spots. I still think Nuge is a big price to pay to move up 5 spots in the draft. I can see Chicago doing it, even if they don’t want to keep Nuge they can flip him.

16 May 2019 14:28:27
Well, I like RNH as well, but to call him Elite is a stretch. by the time Byram is a really good number 1 D, which I think he will be, that's 4 to 5 years away. McDavid needs help now. Better to trade RNH for immediate help I beleive.

16 May 2019 15:05:42
i say this is beyond stupid for oilers and you CLEARLY are not a fan.

16 May 2019 16:16:14
Clearly not a fan? Haha nah i haven't missed a game in 4 year (missed max 20 games since 2010) and got ryan smyth’s portrait tattooed on my leg.

And why would it be bad? Oilers need cap and can move drai to center he's own line and then trade sekera or Russel .

Then they got 10-11,5m extra cap for wingers.

16 May 2019 16:35:59
They got toews and strome 1-2 so don't really need another top2 c. As a Blackhawks fan would like this though. He can play wing and on a lot of prospect rankings byram is 6-8 so Chicago can move back and get whoever's there cause 3-10 it's a crapshoot anywa.

16 May 2019 16:44:37
Oilers don’t need a prospect D more than they need RNH. There loaded with D prospects and two that could potentially be top pair. Regardless it’s an over pay to move up 5 spots.

17 May 2019 00:38:50
Who is the favourite at #3? I was originally podkolzin, but Byram is enticing or do you grab a center; cozens, turcotte, dach. Then there is a playmates, zebras; goal scorer, caufield; and who knows what kreb could do on a good line or carrying a 3rd line by himself. I am for chicago, not sure why Edmonton would move up when the difference from 3rd to 10th is a toss up. You need to really want someone specific to give up Hopkins for this. There is better assets already in the NHL to trade Hopkins for.

17 May 2019 04:53:55
Oiler’s must not make this trade. Is so very bad for the Edmonton Oilers. RNH is such very good hockey player. And I read many times that % that 8 oa is great player or is bust is very same as #3 oa. They are basically the same pick. Is so very true. So that is why Edmonton must not do this.

17 May 2019 07:03:12
No from Edmonton. Makes no sense at all and value is off

17 May 2019 09:31:47
Zamboni stop Reading what others write and get your own opinion. byram will be much better than the #8

In my opinion byram will be better than Dahlin and he went first.

17 May 2019 12:16:57
Swechamp. Everyone can have their opinions. But not a single professional scout I've read has Byram at 3. Not a single one. The highest I've seen is 5 . He is above all the other defenceman in this draft by a bit but in no way is he close to dahlin.

17 May 2019 14:43:01
Better then Dahlin? Dahlin is the most hyped defensive prospect ever. No dman was ever as hyped as him coming out of their draft year.

17 May 2019 18:55:33

17 May 2019 20:25:45
Dahlin was compared to Bobby Orr by some and Lindstrom by most. Doubt Buffalo would move him for McDavid.

17 May 2019 22:58:47
Ok, just seen sportsnet has byram at 3 cause of his playoffs, my bad.

18 May 2019 10:38:19
Vb if oilers called Buffalo and Said ”mcdavid for eichel and Dahlin” Buffalo would accept in a heartbeat.

18 May 2019 12:57:33
No they wouldn’t lol Dahlin And Eichel are a cup worthy core McDavid is abit better then Eichel but not a lot.

19 May 2019 00:35:20
eichels not that great vb, the sabres should've picked marner.

19 May 2019 20:11:35
i agree with vb, there's defs no defenceman who had more hype than dahlin. However shoots, i have seen EVERYWHERE with Byram going #3. he's supposedly the best d prospect out of the whl since scott neidemeyer (butchered his last name lol) and lots of people are saying Byram is a future #1 dman. So the hype is for sure there.

15 May 2019 15:00:09
Blackhawks trade Brett seabrook and third overall for vancouvers 10th madden, Erickson and rights for tryamkin

16 May 2019 01:33:56
i don't see chicago moving down 7 spots to get rid of seabrook just to get an equally bad contract in erickson? i'm not familiar with madden or tryamkin so not sure how good they are.

16 May 2019 20:26:18
Holy ****, I don’t think Benning would EVER hang up on someone so fast as he would if the Chicago GM offered this. Seabrook makes more money than Eriksson and for two more years than his contract yet you want us to give up the 10th overall pick, Madden AND the right to Tryamkin to do you that favor? Get real, you’re delusional.

Considering how much worse Seabrooks contract is compared to Eriksson, Chicago would have to pay Vancouver to make that swap, not the other way around.

17 May 2019 23:43:36
Tryamkin is a throw in though. No guarantee he's ever back in north america.

17 May 2019 23:44:55
Madden is a tiny person so no guarantee he ever plays nhl, last I seen he's 150 pounds.

17 May 2019 23:55:13
Erickson could be a productive guy playing with toews and kane or debrincat and strome . I really like it but will never happen. Personally would rather have him than Seabrook. They paid Seabrook for what he's done but when he's close to 40 going to be easiest worst contract in the league. going to be a anchor for years. Erickson seems like he's either washed up or needs a change of scenery. I see Erickson being a guy that can reset. sesbròok is done.

02 May 2019 13:12:14
Montreal offseason

Montreal signs Artemi Panarin 7yrs/9.5mill

Montreal trades: Tomas tatar(1.5mill retained/3.8milaav).

Chicago trades: Nicolas beaudin.

Montreal trades: Arrturi Lehkonen

Edmonton trades: 2019 2nd, 2020 2nd.

Montreal drafts: Phillip Broberg

Montreal lines




02 May 2019 15:00:06
lmao lehk for 2 high seconds no thanks.

02 May 2019 16:05:18
Chicago isn't trading a possible future stud deman for an aging top 6 winger.

03 May 2019 07:19:01
Cmon man :/

03 May 2019 12:12:50
bruh, that chicago trade isn't even close, maybe seabrook for tatar would be closer.

03 May 2019 23:51:05
Maybe Beaudin for Poehling? Seems way more fair.

04 May 2019 18:48:52
Seabrook for Tatar better come with Beaudoin and a first bcuz Seabrook is a huge cap dump.

04 May 2019 18:51:26
Lol by all means Seadbrook's contract is right behind Lucic's contract as worst in nhl.

29 Apr 2019 16:37:12
Some Mtl trades let me know what you guys think.

MTL trades: Tomas tatar(4.8m), Hudon, 2019 3rd.

Chicago trades: Brandon Saad(6m).

(Cap relief for chicago and Mtl gets a bit younger)

MTL trades: Arrturi lehkonen, Cale fleury.

Leafs trade: Marleau, Sandin, 2019 2nd.

(Cap relief for toronto to be able to resign marner, Kapanen and Lehkonen also receive fleury who might be nhl ready this coming year. Mtl gets a good LHD prospect and can afford to take marleau's cap dump as well as receiving 2 picks)

Mtl Drafts: Phillip Broberg

Montreal lines:



26 Apr 2019 05:28:19
Leafs - nylander, Liljegren, Woll
Hawks- '19 1st ( Byram) and Saad

Leafs gain a little cap space while adding some grit and a left winger in Saad. They also get a highly touted d prospect who had the potential to be a top 1/2 dman. Chicago gets a scoring forward, a good/very good d prospect who may be able to crack the lineup next season And with Chicago drafting boquist last year and Jokiharju the year before their blue line is getting younger. Chicago also gets a good goalie prospect who put up good numbers in the NCAA. He'd be by far Chicago's best goalie prospect. I'm aware that Dubas said "he wouldn't trade nylander" but What ya think?

26 Apr 2019 15:40:59
Hawks will take Kasperi Kapanen, Calle Rosen, Zach Hyman, and Rasmus Sandin please!

26 Apr 2019 17:30:55
Hawks give up 3rd overall for liljegren and will? Cause saad and nylander is pretty much a wash. horrible for Chicago, add money and give up a huge draft pick. Saad is only a few years older and they are both coming off bad seasons.

26 Apr 2019 18:01:49
so bad for chicago lol brutal.

26 Apr 2019 18:02:05
hawks will need that ELC!

26 Apr 2019 21:04:48
Well Nylander has more value then Saad but no from Chicago.

29 Apr 2019 01:46:58
Chicago do like to pay too much salary for players is so very true. They would like an overpriced Nylander. Yes. He would be good for Chicago. Is the 3rd going to be better than Nylander though? Maybe. Or maybe not. Is a big risk for Toronto too. Nylander is proven.

09 Apr 2019 19:15:17
Ottawa Senators -
• (LW) Mikkel Boedker (4M x 1YR)
Los Angeles Kings -
• (LHD) Dion Phaneauf (5.25M x 2YR)
• (RW) Dustin Brown (5.875M x 3YR)
• (C) Gabriel Vilardi
• (2019) 1st-Round Pick

(LA dumps 2 contracts and gets breathing room and are able to pursue free agents signings while adding some scoring touch and ottawa gets a good prospect and a high first)

Ottawa Senators -
• (RW) Bobby Ryan (7.25M x 3YR)
Chicago Blackhawks -
• (RHD) Brent Seabrook (6.875M x 5YR)
• (2019) 1st-Round Pick
• (C) Philipp Kurashev

(Ottawa take on a contract for 2 more years than Bobby Ryan for a 1st round pick and a prospect, chicago dumps term and bobby ryan could start to look like his hold self alongside Toews)

Brady Tkachuk - Colin White - Drake Batherson
Alex Formenton - Jean Pageau - Max Veronneau
Rudolf Balcers - Chris Tierney - Dustin Brown
Zack Smith - Oscar Lindberg - Vitaly Abramov

Thomas Chabot - Dylan Demelo
Dion Phaneuf - Cody Ceci
Mark Borowiecki - Brent Seabrook

09 Apr 2019 20:44:30
😂 Did Melnyk win the powerball or something?

09 Apr 2019 21:24:49
So. your a sens fan?

09 Apr 2019 22:05:02
Seabrook is not so bad too give a 1st with taking a more expensive cap dump. Maybe if Ottawa took a good chunk of Ryan's contract.

10 Apr 2019 01:44:30
Top 3 pick to dump Seabrook for Bobby Ryan.

10 Apr 2019 07:11:44
This was obviously before the lottery *headshake

11 Apr 2019 15:27:31
Ottawa would not have to eat any contract on Ryan lol his contract is nearly done why eat contract and take term on another that's just dumb.

As for those deals no to both by Ottawa unless Bowen Byram is still available at the time of the pick. The rest of this year's draft is not worth handicapping the team with term and contract to the point that the young guys they want to sign can't be afforded or fit under the cap.

12 Apr 2019 04:57:46
Byram plays WHL. Is no good league. So many players play oh so good in WHL but cannot play nhl. Brooks and Steel is example, yes.

Ottawa does not want old overpaid players like Seabrook, Pfaneuf, Brown. No team wants players like that. Ottawa wants young and cheap. Is good way to make rebuild.

13 Apr 2019 01:39:08
Regardless of before/ after the lottery — Melnyk is the cheapest owner in the league and while it would be beneficial to the Sens for them to eat bad contracts in exchange for picks/ prospects during their rebuild, he’s too much of a penny pincher to do it.

Owning sports teams is really a pursuit for the super wealthy (people who do not do it to try and make money but for a hobby/ bragging rights) and corporations who can gain from an advertisement/ marketing angle. Melnyk is neither.

20 Mar 2019 09:33:39
Chicago: Seabrook, 2nd, tuulola
Ottawa: Jaros + 4th.

20 Mar 2019 21:25:44
Chicago wishes.

21 Mar 2019 16:03:10
Seabrook too old and makes too much money. Ottawa is rebuild and want young players. Not old man who takes up all salary cap space.

21 Mar 2019 17:29:32
zamboni he'd be there for a veteran presence to mentor the younger guys. he'd take up some salary cap space yes but during rebuild you'd need to reach cap floor until younger guys need the bigger contracts do you not?

22 Mar 2019 02:52:56
They can make cap floor easy. Just give Gardiner $6M contract. Better player and costs nothing to sign. Is that not a better idea, yes?

14 Mar 2019 00:53:59
Chicago: Seabrook + 2nd
Ottawa: Harpur or jaros.

05 Feb 2019 13:06:34
Ott - Duchene, 3rd
Chicago - Boqvist, 1st

Ott - Stone, Pageau, 4th
Edm - Puljarvi, Bear, 1st

Ott - Ceci, 2nd
Tor - Nylander, 2nd

Ott - Dzingel
VGS - Glass

Ottawa would be smart to trade some depth players for 5ths and 7ths. That's where they shine in the drafts.

05 Feb 2019 14:02:28
Ottawa clearly wins everyone of these trades.

05 Feb 2019 14:22:35
Ooooo me thinks Rambo has a new burner account! Either that or he made a new friend in the it's all an anti-Sens conspiracy mental ward.

05 Feb 2019 16:08:24
these are all so bad haha oh god, but ill tell ya the oilers one got me thinkin a bit but no can do (cap)

05 Feb 2019 16:17:30
I don't know which one is the worst. Is that how we are supposed to rank this post?

05 Feb 2019 17:43:20
The Edmonton trade doesn’t appear to be nearly as lopsided as the rest. It’s actually pretty reasonable. A 1st+ either Pulj or Bear for Stone seems right on. The rest of the guys are just white noise and shouldn’t be cause for making or breaking the deal. I suppose more than anything, this deal centres around how you view Puljujarvi. In my opinion, which means nothing lol, I think it’s time Edmonton looks at moving on from Puljujarvi while they can still get a decent return. By this time next year if he hasn’t broken out in any way, even his biggest supporters would have to be calling him a bust at that point, and his value will be a fraction of what you might still be able to get for him now.

05 Feb 2019 18:06:42
edmontons 1st. overall pick with lucic and spooner for top nine winger to any team NEXT talbot manning benning to any team for top six winger and backup goalie. Both deals improve oilers and give much needed cap space to do something by feb. 25 Idont think any top GM will come without more to work with which the cap space will help huge.

05 Feb 2019 12:32:56
Ott - Duchene, 3rd
Chicago - Boqvist, 1st

Ott - Stone, Pageau, 4th
Edm - Puljarvi, Bear, 1st

Ott - Ceci, 2nd
Tor - Nylander, 2nd

Ott - Dzingel
VGS - Glass

08 Feb 2019 16:45:36
Chicago one looks good, Vegas one I could live with, Toronto one I'd take in a heartbeat but doubt Toronto would even consider it, but the Edmonton one you'd have to change as I would not trade pageau for one as he is the veteran that sens need to keep and I'm not sold on puljarvi, plus Edmonton 1st won't be high enough for someone like stone. Change Edmonton one to something like

Stone, Paul, and 5th for Bouchard, and a 1st.

03 Feb 2019 16:03:50
Ok well Colorado has been linked to stone, Chicago to Duchene, and Edmonton has shown past interest in Ceci and could use dzingles speed with McDavid so.

Ott : stone, Paul, and San Jose's 2nd

Col : Ottawa's 1st this year


Ott : Duchene

Chi : Chicago's 1st this year, and Chicago 2nd this year, and Chicago 3rd this year


Ott : dzingle, Ceci, smith, brown

Edm : Edmontons 1st in 2020, Bouchard, and lucic

Condition to all 3 being Duchene, stone and dzingle all agree to avoid free agency and sign with new teams on the spot.

Then when lottery results determined (they pray to God they land Hughes) and

Ott : the later of their 2 picks Chicago or their own

Van : Quinn Hughes

But leave Bouchard and the Hughes boys in the juniors one more year and tank for Lafreniere, with 3 picks in 2020 better odds.

Best case scenario defence is then fixed with additions of Hughes and Bouchard to help Lajoie, chabot, and demelo. While offence looks like it can compete again with the farm coming up and joining with Lafreniere and Hughes. I know Dorian too stupid to pull this off but one can dream right? Lol

Stone added to the already dangerous Colorado top unit would be insane

Dzingle giving McDavid someone who can actually keep up with his speed would do wanders

And Duchene Toews 1 2 punch with Kane on the wing and a very possible return of panarin in offseason would likely put Chicago back where they belong in the top of the league discussion

In my oppinion that's a win for all teams involved

Ottawa down the road and long term and the other 3 in the hear and now with Edmonton long term with brown, short term with dzingle, and by the grace of God by losing Lucic contract.

03 Feb 2019 16:35:26
How do you add stone to Colorado’s top line? They already have 3 players on it. That’s why it’s a line. And it’s the best one out there. Colorado will not give them back their pick. Why would they?
And we won’t give you Bouchard or our 1st for that.
And why is panarin a very possible return to Chitown? All I’ve heard is he was really hurt the hawks traded him to begin with and is set on a New York team or Florida.
Vancouver just used a top 5 pick on Hughes and they’re trending upwards. Why would they gift him to the senators for the later of 2 picks?
Are all your posts like this? Or are you having an off day?

03 Feb 2019 16:48:02
OrangeBlood, his posts are always like thisz.

03 Feb 2019 16:48:58
Its going to cost you minimum Stone + Duchene to reacquire that 1st. Ain’t happening for just Stone.

03 Feb 2019 16:55:15
Hawks have no need for Duchene, if they go aftera bif fish it will be Panarin.

03 Feb 2019 18:16:21
Hahahaha wow this post is atrocious.

03 Feb 2019 18:38:00
Rambo, I knew you were delusional before, especially with all the times you’ve argued on here saying how you knew for certain this or that was going to happen, and they we’d all just have to wait and see, only for it not to happen like we all told you it wouldn’t.

But, you’ve seriously hit a new low if you think any of those trades work, ESPECIALLY the Vancouver one. The Canucks got so lucky when Hughes fell to seventh due to Montreal and Arizona taking centers, any other time and he’s a top 5 pick, and you want the Canucks to give him up for only ONE asset, and that asset being a first that’s likely not even in the top 10? Get out of here with that stupid rubbish, you’re serioirlsy delusional, get some help.

03 Feb 2019 20:18:18
All great trades. if your Ottawa. No way Chicago's able to afford panarin, and that's before you said get duchenne. didn't realize the cap was going up 15 million $ next year. And Chicago's 1sy 2nd and 3rd picks, that might be a top 3 overall pick depending on how the season finishes, just total non sense, other trades are completely ridiculous also.

03 Feb 2019 21:28:55
I just puked after reading this.

04 Feb 2019 11:07:09
Stone plus Duchene for our own first? Hahahahaha good one, stone is a 5 tool player and one of the best at that, fully signed his value alone is fairly close to a first overall at this point that still has a little under half a season to change its rank get real.

And the Chicago one has been mentioned throughout the year and by adding Duchene as well as making a pitch at panarin in offseason who wants to go back there anyway it makes that team stronger for it.

And orange blood, try reading the trade before making a dumb comment. Bouchard, at least for the next year, is Edmontons most valuable piece in this deal as the pick involved is next year's, not this year's meaning it likely won't be as good since chirelli no longer in charge. So.

Brown = Bouchard (Bouchard might be a tad more value)

Dzingle + Ceci = next years 1st

Smith contract vs Lucic contract (Edmonton should be on their hands and knees begging for someone to take Lucic)

04 Feb 2019 12:53:40
So your saying that top4 guarranteed is equivalent to Mark Stone? A top four player in the draft is at worse Brady Tkachuk level, and tbh, I’s rather have him than Stone due to age/ contract. With the chance of getting Hughes with that pick, its minimum Duch+Stone and I’m not kidding you.

Also Chicago won’t do that. They have enough cap hell witj seabrook and keith, they need youth not expensive prime players.

04 Feb 2019 15:59:30
Slappers what ever drugs you're taking I def want some, of course I like Brady bit I'll take stone over him any given day, unless you got a guaranteed Jack Hughes stone fully sign definitely has the value greater than anyone else in top 5 adding fully signed Duchene on top Colorado would have to add a conditional pick with the only condition being that the next time Colorado has a top 5 pick it goes to Ottawa too. you don't give up what sens did for Duchene and take back peanuts. Fully signed both guy are more than worth a top 5 pick by the trade deadline, you're kidding yourself if you think otherwise. Acquiring those picks don't guarantee they will stay top 5 either, especially Chicago one, adding Duchene to Chicago would be a huge addition that can easily fix their standing, Duchene Kane together would destroy other teams defence.

And someone asked how stone fits in Colorado? Easy 2nd line for now, or first power play unit with Barrie Landy rants and Mack, also be sick pk guy as he is one of the best defensive forwards in the game, he would make available that much more dangerous, plus when current top 3 run dry on their chemistry you can split em up, rants and Mack on one line stoner and Landy on another for a 1 2 punch.

04 Feb 2019 19:54:49
Same old Rambo 😂

“And with the 1st pick of the 2019 NHL Draft, the Colorado Avalanche select. ”.

05 Feb 2019 04:51:35
Unsportsmanlike, this is exactly what I have been talking about all along about how you and your groupies here disrespect sens players and undervalue them.

According to the garbage you all have been posting since last year I have the evidence now. Duchene with a year and a half on his contract got what he got for Colorado that being a player in Turris who is nearly equal skill level (I say Turris because everything acquired for Turris went to Colorado) as well as a solid prospect in Bowers a 3rd and a backup goalie in Hammond, and a 1st from a projected weak end team, yet some how you all thought that was fair with exception of me.

Now I propose 2 trades basically 1 for one each while also stating that both men will be fully signed in these deals, Chicago first for Duchene which is still less value that what was initially traded for him on a contract that was ending as opposed to a full contract meaning a Duchene that should arguably be worth more than he was then as despite a bad team season his individual numbers have been better than ever yet somehow according to y'all he ain't even worth 1 top 5 pick? Get real dude.

Then you got stone who in many people's oppinion is actually better than Duchene also younger on top of that and considered a 5 tool player by some of the harshest critics and fully signed should be worth even more than Duchene seeing as how he is literally just starting his prime of his career, yet somehow he's not worth a single pick that doesn't give you more than a 15% chance at the one guy in the draft who is arguably worth more based on age alone in Jack Hughes? Really?

Hughes is great yes but the kid is strictly offence (so was Yakupov, how did that work out) he's got speed, great skating, great shot, great passing, but without the puck he needs work stone is one of the best with and without the puck, with his skating holding him back a tad bit not enough to hurt him, no doubt fully signed he's worth that pick at least.

It's painfully obvious how biased you all are against Ottawa as you can't even back up why you have their value ratings so low unless they are on other teams, on top of that neither carries the baggage EK and Hoffman did at time of their deals!

05 Feb 2019 11:20:29
Yeah Rambo get the tin foil hat on! It’s all a big anti-Sens conspiracy on this site — that’s why Sens players never get traded for anything close to what you propose in reality (I’ll “back that up” with specific historical examples in Karlsson and Hoffman ) — it has nothing to do with your room temperature IQ!

05 Feb 2019 13:18:02
Please unsportsmanlike bias, explain to me how 1.5 years of Duchene was worth what he got or even the proposals you all listed like for example white Chabot and a weak teams 1st and then some yet a proposal involving a fully signed (5+ years) Duchene for a top 5 pick (now, as adding Duchene will likely get them back on winning track) is not a fair deal for Chicago?

Or a fully signed stone (5+ years) who logs 60+ points anually with sub par line mates while being one of the best defensive forwards in the game today at age 26, and is proving this year that with a quality line mate I'll be it Duchene or tkechuck both of which he's played with so far he's a point a game plus guy, is somehow not worth a top 5 pick that could change at any time but even still only gives a 15% chance at jack Hughes?

Pretty sure a guaranteed 5 tool player as stated by critics and a guaranteed former number 3 overall who lives up to the hype that comes with that high a pick both signed long term carry more value than at the very minimum everyone else in top 5 picks this year and even in stones case a 15% chance at Hughes.

05 Feb 2019 13:27:08
Also I literally just mentioned EK and Hoffman and that Duchene and stone don't carry the same sort of baggage this full value and fully signed not tough to see.

05 Feb 2019 14:21:27
I have not posted any trade Ottawa proposals. Ever. So spare me from your nonsensical ramblings.

Let me know when Ottawa trades Karlsson for Sergachev, Point, and 2 firsts.

Just more of your delusional, biased posts.

We have a track record on this site of you getting called out for being completely out to lunch with your valuations, only to be proven comically wrong when the trades occurs and the return is no where near what you suggested. And here you are, back at it again. You are either hopelessly deluded from reality, or the site's greatest troll. In either case, debating with you would be a waste of time. So now I sit back and enjoy the laughs when you post.

06 Feb 2019 18:27:28
I don't post biased garbage like you do.

Stone is a perennial 60+ point guy playing with average at best line mates up till this year and still has been and continues to be one of the best defensive forwards in the league on top of that. Now playing with someone close to the same skill level and consistency he's over a point a game. He's also only 26 years old just starting his prime years. Fully signed 5+ years he's easily worth more than any possible draft pick outside jack hughes. And seeing as a trade must be reached by deadline that means the sens pick is only currently a 15% chance to land Hughes and those odds still have 20+ games to change completely.

Do the math unsportsmanlike, a guaranteed fully signed close to or right on point a game top 6 forward at 26 years old vs a CHANCE at a 15% CHANCE at jack hughes! Not too hard to see that stone himself carries more value let alone the addition of a 2nd and a decent prospect in Paul on top of that.

Then there is Duchene deal which is a bigger risk for Ottawa as he's almost as good as stone, and only 2 years older at age 28. Sure the Chicago pick is currently 5th overall but swapping it for Duchene all but guarantees that Chicago not only improves their standing and makes the pick worst but makes Chicago better long term. Duchene like stone, is better than any possible pick outside Hughes and most definitely far more valuable than any pick ranging 6 - 15, which is most likely where that pick would end up being after a deal like this.

Fact is I can back up what I view their values to be, and I don't believe you can even give a compelling reason why their values should be any less other than you don't like Ottawa and undervalue their talent. I've been waiting a few years now to hear any kind of logical explanation as to the value of these players according to everyone else and why but yet all I get is a bunch of trolls who can't give anything but a "your crazy" or a "you'll never get that"

Wake up and give any real reasoning or stop trolling, plain and simple!

07 Feb 2019 14:49:10
Your flawed and delusional opinions do not back up anything.

History has backed up what we have said on this site and proven you wrong every time (Karlsson not getting traded for anything close to what you assured us he would -- Sergachev, Point and 2 1sts; Hoffman getting traded for a can of beans like we told you he would given the circumstances despite you stomping your feet and pounding the table telling us we were all wrong) .

I'll take empirical evidence over your "reasoning" every day of the week, thanks. Those "trolls" telling you "you're crazy" and "you'll never get that" have been right every time. You have been proven wrong every time. The end.

By the way, Hughes isn't the only player that will be getting drafted this year. Ottawa is hot garbage and their first round pick may not be 1st overall, but it's going to be right up there. Better get used to the notion of another team using your first rounder kiddo.

09 Feb 2019 18:16:38
Are you blind to facts too unsportsmanlike? History in this one is most definitely on my side.

I said Duchene and stone both fully signed are worth the returns and then some I have listed here, do your research.

Duchene with 1.5 years left got Colorado everything from the Kyle Turris trade, plus hamond, a 3rd, a 1st, and Bowers (a 1st in his own right) .

Sorry to be the one to burst your bubble but a fully signed Duchene 1 year later who has clearly upped his own personal game since the trade is definitely worth more than a year and a half Duchene who wanted out anyway, that much is common sense, and the return I posted here doesn't even match the return Colorado got even if the 1st they got was last of first round instead of first at this point.

Take into account that stone is a better and more valuable piece than Duchene his trade value fully signed also exceeds that of a fully signed Duchene especially considering the guy is only 26 years old.

And still instead of backing your claims with actual evidence all you can do is attempt to down play my claims, open you eyes and ears instead of your mouth for once and actually do some research.

09 Feb 2019 18:33:09
And just for good measure.

As reported by Dave pagnotta, the asking price for stone and Duchene has been revealed.

A 1st round pick, a top tier prospect, and another top tier asset

Actual asking price e for each of them, and that's as is unsigned and rightfully so! Fully sign they are worth a lot more each and this type of package as is can be deemed equal to a top 5 pick as is so really the trades I posted are also undervaluing their worth if you want to look at it that way.

09 Feb 2019 19:34:35
Cool story — let me know when Duchene gets traded to Chicago for a lottery pick and when Stone gets traded to Colorado for Ottawa’s first. I’ll wait.

If that happens (newsflash — it won’t) I’ll gladly eat crow.

When it doesn’t, I’ll still be here laughing at you. Keep postiing kiddo, the world needs more laughter.

12 Feb 2019 23:47:29
They are exactly fully signed yet you goof, the trades I posted clearly state both men as fully signed, maybe if you closed your mouth, opened your eyes, and learned to read you'd see that, not saying the Chicago one isn't a possiblity fully signed or not but don't go putting words in my mouth to cover your own backside.

29 Jan 2019 00:00:12
Chicago Trades

Toronto Trades
4th Round Pick 2019 (Blues Pick)

Chicago looking to shed some Cap Space to make a run at Panarin in the offseason so a Trade like this will be on the table I believe, Saad probably another on the way out, Leafs get exactly what they lack in Seabrook for there Playoff run.

Thoughts ?

29 Jan 2019 00:49:35
I’m a seabrook fan, unfortunately he’s a shell of his former self. If this was 4/ 5 years ago I’d have been excited to see him in the blue and white, but given his age, rapid decline and long term contract it’d be foolish for the leafs to do this. Zaitsev is younger, cheaper and st this point may actually be better than seabrook. Makes zero sense for leafs. Chicago would gladly accept this deal.

29 Jan 2019 02:58:03
Lol okay Toronto can do that.

28 Jan 2019 15:44:21
Chicago sends F - J. Toews to the Jets in exchange for F - J.Roslovic, G - E. Comrie and D - L. Stanley.

Here's Chicago's goalie of the future as concussion Crawford is probably close to done, Roslovic will be a star in a few years and Stanley is a 6'7"" d-man.

Toews come home to the Peg and centre's Laine and Ehlers.

28 Jan 2019 15:53:29
No thanks from Winnipeg. The Jets can't afford Toews contract next year.

28 Jan 2019 22:52:23
Why doesn’t Chicago add in Boqvist and Jokiharju while their at it? Maybe a few firsts too?

14 Jan 2019 18:45:51
Chicago- #1 pick to Sens

Ottawa- Stone and Ceci

Ottawa will lose Stone anyways because Melynk can't afford him, they get#1 pick and chance of Jack Hughes. Hawks get a power forward that can score and they can dump Saad later

14 Jan 2019 20:51:20
Can Chicago afford Stone?
Dont know if this works for either team. Stone isn't resigned so you don't know what that will end up being or if he leaves for UFA. I don't think that Chicago would want to give up their first. From Ottawa, the first is nice but don't think they would want Keith if they are rebuilding. he could be a good leadership identity for their young d core but not sure if that would really benefit them.

05 Jan 2019 15:44:20
Bos: Toews
Chi: Backes, Heinen, Forsbacka-Karlsson, 1st

Boston needs more down the middle to compete in playoffs. Sends Backes back to compensate for Toews bad contract. Then Chicago gets decent young roster player, good prospect and a first. Chicago could then flip Backes before deadline for more rebuild parts.

05 Jan 2019 16:16:06
Horrible for chicago, you say Chicago gets rid of a bad contract but so does boston. People forget toews is top 2 or 3 in faceoffs in the nhl, top 5 defensive forwards and easily one of the top leaders in all of hockey, 25 goals a year is normal for him even with defensive responsibilities. he's a bit over paid but that's what you get when he's in the quadruple gold club with a few other people and three stanley cups.

05 Jan 2019 19:32:14
If Toews is such a bad contract why would you want him. Lol.

05 Jan 2019 20:14:40
Good comments both. I thought long and hard about including Donato or Debrusk. thinking about the Karlsson deal a bit more, maybe add one of them. Boston still has a ton of prospects. It's a bad contract for the duration, but for the next year or two before Boston's window begins to close before they need to redevelop, not rebuild, having Toews would help give them another legit shot. They need help down the middle to compete in the east. Bergeron is of course fab, though injuries are cause for concern. Krejci is good but inconsistent and I'm not sold. And after all that, I'm not a Bruins fan at all. just thought I'd give you all something to chew on for fun.

05 Jan 2019 22:07:04
I honestly wouldn't invest this much in a 31 year old exellent denfensive center. At 10.5 million it's very bad. he's doing good this year so that's great, when he's putting up 65+ point a season he's worth his 10.5 million imo because of his defensive game.

02 Jan 2019 02:28:22
Chicago to make some changes.

CHI: Darnell Nurse and Milan Lucic and 2rd 2019 pk

EDM: Patrick Kane

02 Jan 2019 07:28:50
Milian Lucic cancels out Nurses value.

02 Jan 2019 19:09:05
At this point it's probably takes nurse and a 2nd just to get rid of lucic so essentially the hawks are giving Kane away for free here.

25 Dec 2018 15:27:50
Tor trades:
William nylander
Calle Rosen
2nd round 2019

Chi trades:
Duncan Keith
Nick schmaltz

I'm not sure how close value is, but keith would be a key contributor on the back end, and schmaltz can replace nylander in a lesser role.

For Chicago, they get younger and faster, while adding a draft pick. Nylander should regain his old form, and Rosen gives them a fill in for an aging Keith.

25 Dec 2018 16:02:26
Uh. Schmaltz is gone. So uh.

25 Dec 2018 16:26:35
Absolute no, 1 because Keith is well past his prime, and Schmaltz now plays for the Coyotes.

25 Dec 2018 17:25:56
Well, that was a fail. I forgot about the Arizona trade. I still think Keith would be a great addition.

25 Dec 2018 21:55:26
Keith is still an outstanding player. Obviously regressing, though exasperated by the problems of his team, he can still contribute in a meaningful way in many aspects that don’t necessarily show up on the stats sheet. A rebuilding Chicago team has got to be considering moving him at this point. Given the structure of his contract though, he will likely be traded to a team that can afford the cap hit while paying a very reasonable salary for his services. Not sure who the best trading partner is, but I’m pretty sure if Chicago started making calls about Keith, someone would still like to have him on the team.

25 Dec 2018 22:45:00
Schmaltz was Traded to Arizona so that would be a Deal impossible to make.

25 Dec 2018 22:48:39
If we are trading Nylander, they will want to get the prime years of the Dman coming back. Kieth is an option if he would wave to leave Chicago, but not at that price.

Also schmaltz is in Arizona.

25 Dec 2018 22:53:39
Nick Schmaltz plays for Arizna now.

26 Dec 2018 03:04:57
Thank you to the 5 different people that had to remind me schmaltz is in arizona. Let me re-propose? How about Keith for brown + bracco. Something along those lines.

26 Dec 2018 15:37:56
Gotta sign Mathews and Marner before adding another pricy piece.

27 Dec 2018 06:22:32
Kieth would be a great addition but not for willy. His game will come around soon and his best play will be in playoffs. ( i hope his on my fantasy team )

24 Dec 2018 18:42:09
So the chances of this happening are very low I just thought it would be fun to see what the Sabres would have to give up for the hometown kid Patty Kane. Sorta makes sense cause CHI NEEEEEEDS to rebuild and sabres are on the rise

BUFF: Reinhart, Pilut, Luukkonen, 2019 2nd

Reinhart is a hell of a player, steady incline every single year he has played, really think he could be a PPG player in a couple years. Pilut was the leading scorer for D in the SHL and is only 22, definetly NHL ready and the hawks need help on the blueline now. Luukkonen is a solid G prospect, i honestly think adding a 1st might be a bit much, i think the value is there and it makes sense for both teams. If yall dissagree what do you think Kaners price would be?

24 Dec 2018 21:55:20
I don’t know much about Pilot but from what you said it sounds pretty good. I just don’t know that Kane gets traded. Although I think it would be smart for Chicago to totally clean house and rebuild - they have the assets to do it quickly if done right - I just don’t think they will.

25 Dec 2018 03:02:29
Patrick Kane would be one of the few players I would keep if I was chicago.

25 Dec 2018 05:24:29
I hate to agree with Habby, but well. yeah i agree with habby, i'd trade just about everyone but kaner at this point.

25 Dec 2018 13:25:32
The way kids come into the league ready to be stars at 18, 19 and 20 now, these bottom teams can turn it around so quickly. Kane at his age will still be a superstar when the hawks are better in a couple years. if they make a couple good decisions.

27 Dec 2018 06:24:20
Chicago should have kept joel. Q and kane rest is up for trade.

04 Feb 2019 22:11:03
WHAT ARE YOU SMOKING! Hawks will never trade Kane or Toews any rebuild will be around these two life Hawks. Even if Kane was traded it will be for equal talent and no team is in that postion! Keith or Seabrook will be traded and the Hawks will free up cap space to Panarin for a couple years at 8.5M and push the Hawks back into cup contention!

23 Dec 2018 19:35:33
Chicago Trades

Toronto Trades
Timashov (AHL)
4th Round Pick 2019

Hawks are a bad Team, Toews and PKane are staying put but Players like Seabrook, Keith and Saad will have to go to get the Cap down, this Trade Proposal cuts 2.4 mil plus gets them a Prospect and a Pick for the future.

Leafs keep looking to improve the Right Side on Defence and this type of Trade does that without giving up the farm and future, Zaitsev is a bad contract as we all know so even adding 2.4 mil is worth it to make the Leafs better.

Thoughts ?

23 Dec 2018 20:28:12
Might as well say good by to Mathews if you want to take in Seabrook. Why give up assets for a 7 million dollar player who can barely skate. This makes the leafs a bottom 5 team in the NHL. Zaitsev is 150x better then Seabrook.

24 Dec 2018 02:32:01
seabrook is still better than zaitsev but there's still no reason the leafs do this, awful trade.

24 Dec 2018 09:46:22
Cap goes up next year and the Leafs will sign both Matthews and Marner trust me #vbbbvvbb, Cap difference between Seabrook and Zaitsev is 2.4 mill not 7 mill and aren't you the same person who said Zaitsev is a 5th or 6th Defenceman and now he is 150% better than Seabrook?

24 Dec 2018 07:23:17
Lmao. VB with another funny crazy over exaggeration.

24 Dec 2018 13:42:42
Seabrook wouldn’t be the best player on my high school team lol he’s like 70 years old. Or atleast plays like it.

24 Dec 2018 17:16:33
Seabrook or Zaitsev, either way we end up with a bad contract. Zaitsev is the lesser of the two evils. Sure, Seabrook may be the better player still (debateable), but in a few years will that still hold true?

24 Dec 2018 21:28:38
Your over exaggerating big time. He's not nearly as bad as you're making him out to be.

19 Dec 2018 17:36:29
To carolina: Patrick kane To chicago: Brett Pesce, Scott Darling, 2019 1st, 2019 2nd, 2020 1st. Reason is Carolina is stacked on defense and a need for Chicago, Carolina could use more scoring, Darling included to even out the cap a bit and by the time his contract is up, Chicago should be on the up swing again. Chicago should keep toews instead of kane to mentor the young team. Carolina still in striking distance of the playoffs and kane might push them to get there. Thoughts? Is kane worth 2 1sts with taking Darling back?

20 Dec 2018 00:34:58
Guy from the hockey news was saying kane to buffalo would make sense cause kane would probably waive his no trade clause to go home, just thought carolina would fit better but still kane would have to accept.

20 Dec 2018 01:56:51
not enough for kane.

20 Dec 2018 17:36:20
Guy from hockey news suggested buffalo, sam reinhart, pominville and 3 1sts so think my proposal was reasonable.

24 Dec 2018 17:12:38
With Jokiharju and Boqvist in the system, Chicago may be looking for left hand instead. Maybe Slavin instead of Pesce? Tweak the proposal a little to make it work?

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