Colorado Avalanche Rumours

04 Mar 2024 17:12:44
Colorado Trades
6th Round Pick 2024

Toronto Trades
MJones


Thoughts ?

04 Mar 2024 18:09:49
Value is there, although I think maybe Toronto could ask for a 5th

04 Mar 2024 18:10:25
With Francouz being out, I think this is a good deal for Colorado and gives them a bit more depth between the pipes for cheap

04 Mar 2024 19:30:16
I'd prolly look for a 5th or Package one of our small wingers in the ahl for a higher pick.

04 Mar 2024 21:49:12
Why? Jones is good depth.

04 Mar 2024 22:49:26
Agreed vbbbvvbb. Our goaltending isn't steady enough and injuries could happen down the stretch and in the playoffs. As inconvenient as it is I'd rather have three goalies on the main roster.

29 Feb 2024 07:19:14
Habs-allen

Anh- Henrique


Col- Oskar olausson-behrens-1st pick col 2025- 4thpick 2025-joahnsen


Anh retain half on Allen,henrique

Habs-4th pick col

Anh- olausson-behrens-1st pick- Johansen

Col- henrique-allen

I've seen this rumors but with Callum Ritchie , pretty sure avs don't want to part ways with Ritchie so I swap him with olausson and swap the 3rd for a fourth seems more fair

Mtl- armia half retain- 4 the pick col

La - kaliev

22 Feb 2024 16:28:47
3 team proposal.

Arizona Trades
Keller-(Tor)
Dumba*-(Col)
JBrown*+(Tor)

Colorado Trades
O'Connor-(Arz)
Byram-(Arz)
Kero(AHL)-(Tor)

Toronto Trades
Knies-(Arz)
Kampf-(Col)
Jarnkrok-(Col)
Liljegren-(Arz)
Petruzzelli(AHL)-(Arz)
1st Round Pick 2024-(Arz)
3rd Round Pick 2024(NYI Pick)-(Arz)


*Arizona retains 50% of both Dumba and JBrown expiring contract.


So many players in my proposal going here and there to explain it all, but what each team is giving up and what they are getting fits every teams needs imo.



Thoughts ?

22 Feb 2024 18:22:22
Colorado trades Byram and get next to nothing in return.

22 Feb 2024 19:00:49
Ebsolutely
Colorado needs depth on bottom forward lines and Kampf and Jarnkrok do that, Dumba is the hard hitting RHanded Defenceman they are looking for, remember Colorado is looking to win it all this year not rebuilding.
Ok instead of sending the 3rd Rounder to Arizona I will instead send it to Colorado to give Colorado another asset going back for Byam.
What Arizona is getting back I still believe without a 3rd they would agree.

22 Feb 2024 19:08:07
What do the Avs get out of this? What do the Coyotes get out of this? This only benefits us. Avs are fine sitting 2nd in the central, 3rd in the west as a whole, and 5th overall in the entire league. They'll look to add for sure, but not at the cost of Byram unless they are getting a high end player up front in and they most definitely do not add that in this deal. Yotes trade their top player who is signed at a very reasonable contract and is only 25. Even if they hop into a rebuild you know who's going to be apart of it? Clayton Keller.

We are not going to be big game hunting, at least we shouldn't be. Too many uncertainties in net to be confident enough to say this is the year we trade our top prospects, trade our future draft picks away, and go all in for the cup Add a good right handed dman who can slot in on the second or third pairing who can play a responsible game in our end, can skate well enough to transition, and get shots through on the offensive side of things.

22 Feb 2024 21:06:54
Embarrassing Pinball…absolute ?

Take a long weekend and come back with some perspective.

22 Feb 2024 23:08:54
MG69
To start with what are The Avs getting? 3 players that will help them in the playoffs, do you not thinking adding Kampf, Jarnkrok up front and Dumba on defense over O'Connor and Byram makes them better for the playoffs? SMH if you think not.
What does Zona get?
Byram and Liljegren over Dumba and JBrown is that an improvement for next season and beyond?
Keller of course is the best player in the deal but Knies was magic with Cooley in college and he is a young power type forward with skill, in all honesty I would hate to trade Knies but to get Keller you have to, add the 1st and 3rd plus the trade off on defense and a depth goaltender.
That's why Arizona would do that.
As for Chickenfoot we know every Leaf player has no value in your world so why bother saying anything to you.

23 Feb 2024 01:06:19
No team wants Dumba. He doesn’t make the avalanche.

23 Feb 2024 01:48:32
Pinball it doesn't. O'Connor has more points than Kampf and Jarnkrok. Byram has more god damn points than Kampf and the same amount as Jarnkrok and he's on the third pair for defense and the second powerplay unit. You know who he also has more points than. Dumba! Refer to the standings man and tell me why in the world they should look to get rid of Byram and O'Connor when they don't get better after the fact. If they want to add depth there will be cheaper options who won't cost them Byram in the process. Kampf is a cap dump at this point. I'm sure they'd love to add Jarnkrok as he falls into that depth category, but if we were to say "It's going to cost you Byram. " they would laugh at us and look else where.

Well aware like everyone else in the hockey world that Knies and Cooley had great chemistry in college, but why do you think that warrants the idea that they should give up the better player and their best player for that hope that it translates to the NHL level. Keller is apart of their future. He's had success stat wise with little supporting cast, on a team friendly deal, can play every forward position, is only 25.

So again I ask you, why do the Arizona Coyotes and the Colorado Avalanche do this deal?

23 Feb 2024 15:55:25
Its easier to say you want Keller in Toronto, which doesn't solve the Leafs biggest issues which is their defense and goaltending depth.

This also doesn't look like the year for Toronto to go all in for the cup, considering their lack of scoring depth and the lack of draft picks and already thin prospect pool. Throwing that 1st rounder away would put them 2 steps further back. They should either hold out and go with the team they've built already, or try and grab a RHD that's making under $2m, but even with that they'll get in trouble when stacked up against a team like Florida or NYR in the playoffs.

23 Feb 2024 17:38:09
Couldn't agree more DrwDave. If we can grab a RHD at a reasonable cap hit that isn't going to cost the farm then absolutely for it. But at this point I'd rather see them let it ride for the year and regroup in the offseason. With any luck we will get some depth scoring going like we had last night against Vegas and it carries through to the playoffs.

23 Feb 2024 19:00:12
That one is absolutely brutal for Colorado.

23 Feb 2024 23:21:05
PINBALL: every time you blame feedback on your trades on someone being “anti-leafs” it’s even more embarrassing than your trade proposals, especially this one that has NOTHING for COL.

Others have noted this is a crappy deal for COL. You are too biased to recognize they are right.

? Crying in Baseball
? No Whining About Yout Trade Feedback.

27 Feb 2024 10:36:39
COL trades Byram, O’Connor & Kero for Jarnkrok, Kampf & Dumba? nah wtf

29 Feb 2024 16:47:16
Right @NotACasual? What an absolute steal for them. ?.

18 Feb 2024 15:49:58
Colorado wants to acquire a centre and they know Kadri very well. Maybe they would entertain a possible return?

CGY - Nazem Kadri, 2026 3rd and Parker Bell
COL - Samuel Girard


Flames get younger, slightly cheaper and acquire a Hanifin replacement. Kadri has put up pretty good numbers during his short time in Calgary despite playing on a mediocre defense-first team.
Nazem Kadri ( 7.00 @ 6 UFA )
Samuel Girard ( 5.00 @ 4 UFA )

Kadri’s Point Production :
CGY - 82GP | 24G 32A | 56Pts
CGY - 55GP | 17G 28A | 45Pts
(Leading the Flames in points, 3rd in points last season)

Colorado lacks wingers in their prospect pool and picks so I thought adding would make it a little more enticing given Kadri’s contract. Colorado trades from a position of strength for a much needed centre, winger prospect and draft pick while only losing 2mil towards the cap.

19 Feb 2024 22:54:30
Why would Calgary have to add above Kadri on this deal?

20 Feb 2024 02:07:36
@Nashan cause Avs are taking all the risk, he's 33 getting paid for another 6 years.

20 Feb 2024 20:46:04
Don’t think avs are taking all the risk. How good is Girard hiding behind toews and makar?

02 Feb 2024 11:24:09
PlayStation mode

Mtl - gallagher-allen 50 retain

EDM - Campbell

But to make it work, nashville is included in the trade

They retain 50% on both Gallagher and Campbell

For that, they receive

EDM 1st and Broberg
Mtl 2nd (Colorado) and Barron

So when Habs buy out cambpell at the end of season and EDM buyout Gally after the playoffs run or maybe the next year, Nsh absorb half of the deadcap. Make it very affordable for the 3 teams.

EDM get 2 usefully depth player and cap space

Mtl get cap space, resolve issues with the 3 goaltender situation and send Gallagher to his hometown, Cup contender.

Nsh get very interesting assets

02 Feb 2024 12:15:02
- MTL & NSH decline.

- NSH can only retain on one more salary, so they couldn't participate fully as described in this transaction.

- the next 4 years NSH has some "Minnesota-esque" cap penalties for contract buyouts & retained salary:

. 2024-25: 11.8M
. 2025-26: 8.8M
. 2026-27: 3.55M
. 2027-28: 3.55M.

04 Feb 2024 17:51:26
Oilers decline.

17 Jan 2024 17:22:32
COL - Bowen Byram and Conditional 2024 2nd
CGY - Elias Lindholm (50% Salary Retained)

Condition : If the Avalanche advance to the Conference Finals, the draft pick turns into their 2024 1st.

Contracts :
Bowen Byram - 3.85 @ 2 UFA
Elias Lindholm - 2.42 @ 1 UFA (50% Retention)

Reasons : Colorado needs another skilled forward after placing Landeskog and Lehkonen on LTIR, and Nichushkin on NHLPA Player Assistance Program. Flames need to get younger and if they trade Noah Hanifin they’d need a Top 4 LHD replacement.

Cons : Bowen Byram has been quite injury prone through his short career playing 130 regular season games and 27 playoff games in 4 seasons. Elias Lindholm is a UFA and isn’t performing like his usual self but you could argue that he doesn’t have the best linemates on a bad team.

17 Jan 2024 18:27:11
I think I undersold Lindholm a little with Robertson and a 2nd but I don’t think this is close. Lindholm is a career 60 point guy. The only way I could see Colorado entertaining this is if they think Byrams injuries are a big problem.

18 Jan 2024 13:23:40
This is hard. Lindholm got Huberdeau right after a 115 point season, and that was a disaster. Byram had high hopes, but has had his fair share of injuries.
Lindholm wont get any better, just hope he can get back to where he was. Byram is 7 years younger and if he could stay healthy, could be a great player. or could keep getting injured and benched.
I kinda like this risk vs/ risk proposal.

18 Jan 2024 15:19:23
Habs have COL 2nd 2024.

18 Jan 2024 15:21:04
Habs have COL 2024 2nd.

19 Jan 2024 16:24:50
I think that works good for Calgary and Colorado only if we get rid of noah

08 Jan 2024 17:22:22
To CGY:
-2024 1st,Mavrik Borque,Christian Kyrou cap dump (faksa or lindell)
To DAL:
-Noah Hanifin, Dillon Dube

To CGY:
- 2024 1st, Bowen Byram
To COL:
- Elias Lindholm, Dennis Gilbert

To Cgy:
-2024 1st, Topi Niemela
To TOR: Chris Tanev (50 retained), Adam Ruzicka

To Cgy:
-2024 1st, Micheal McLeod, Lenni Hammenaho
To NJ:
-Jacob Markstrom (50 %retained - that's this year plus 2 more @ 3m cap hit)

To CGY:
-Brayden Yager
To PIT:
-Andrew Mangiapane (50% retained- this year and next)

Zary-Kadri-Pospisil
Huberdeau-Mcleod-Sharangovich
Pelletier-Backlund-Coleman
Greer-Faksa?-Duehr

Weegar-Andersson
Byram-Desimone
Solovyov-Niemela

Wolf
Vladar

Let Bourque and Coronato rip up the AHL this year and bring em up at the end of the year. Kyrou and Hameenaho and Yager really fill up that cupboard too

08 Jan 2024 20:16:27
No from Flames
Fair
No from Leafs
Fair
Idk

04 Jan 2024 07:24:48
Think this works for all teams involved. Not sure how far off I am.

Calgary trades
Lindholm
Hanifin 50% retained

Colorado trades
Ryan Johansen
Bowen Byram
3rd 2025
3rd 2026

I think Hanifin will walk in free agency but Lindholm could be retained for a decent price, especially if landeskog comes back next year.

Then flip Johansen

Calgary trades
Ryan Johansen 50% retained
2024 4th
2025 7th

Rangers trade
Kaapo Kakko
2024 2nd

Easy kaako needs fresh start
Rangers need right wing/ center help

Then

Calgary trades
Tanev 50% retained
Colorado`s 3rd 2025

Edmonton trades
Broberg
Holloway
Deharnais & Erne to make cap work

Tanev can pair with Nurse
Both Broberg & Holloway need fresh starts.

This I think helps all teams involved and jump-starts Calgary's rebuild with players around the same age as Coronato and Zary

Thought?

04 Jan 2024 17:19:18
I was with your reasoning on the first trade as that gives Colorado a serious boost to win it all again, but after that you lost me. Especially on the Cgy-Edm trade, Tanev for 2 1st rd prospects + other assets is just greedy.

05 Jan 2024 16:38:34
I agree with Musing, but I really find it difficult to imagine COL trading Byram.

05 Jan 2024 19:33:03
Flames wouldn’t touch that, they’d get better value trading them separately.

05 Jan 2024 22:59:16
The top UFA center on the market. And no 1st round picking moving.

Top UFA LHD known to be available, and no 1st round pick moving.

Hard no from Calgary.

06 Jan 2024 17:26:27
You’d rather a 1st over Byram? Also I don’t think it’s a good idea for Oil to trade young players for UFA’s.

25 Dec 2023 20:47:16
Calgary: lindholm, Tanev, 6th Colorado: Johansson, Calum Ritchie, Nikolai Kovalenko, 1st.

20 Sep 2023 02:51:58
Friedman mentioned Colorado’s interest in Backlund this season. They also want a backup goalie so I feel they would be the perfect trading partners.


To Colorado Avalanche :
C - Mikael Backlund ( 5.35 @ 1 UFA )
G - Daniel Vladar ( 2.20 @ 2 UFA )
3rd Round Pick in 2025 - CGY

To Calgary Flames :
LD - Samuel Girard ( 5.00 @ 4 UFA )
W - Logan O’Connor ( 1.05 @ 2 UFA )


Flames need a Noah Hanifin replacement for when he’s traded and need to free up a goaltending spot for Dustin Wolf.
Colorado wants another veteran C, want a backup goalie and eventually have to trade a defensemen so they can keep Devon Toews.
This trade would make a lot of sense for both teams.


Jonathan Drouin - Nathan MacKinnon - Mikko Rantanen
Artturi Lehkonen - Ryan Johansen - Valeri Nichushkin
Miles Wood - Mikael Backlund - Tomas Tatar
Andrew Cogliano - Colton Ross - Ben Myers

Devon Toews - Cale Makar
Bowen Byram - Josh Manson
Jack Johnson - Kurtis MacDermid

Alexandar Georgiev
Daniel Vladar


Jonathan Huberdeau - Elias Lindholm - Matt Coronato
Andrew Mangiapane - Nazem Kadri - Yegor Sharangovich
Jakob Pelletier - Blake Coleman - Dillon Dube
Logan O’Connor - Adam Ruzicka - Walker Duehr

Mackenzie Weegar - Rasmus Andersson
Samuel Girard - Chris Tanev
Oliver Kylington - Nikita Zadorov

Jacob Markstrom
Dustin Wolf

(Hanifin Gone)

09 Sep 2023 10:23:21
To Toronto Maple Leafs :
LD/RD - Bowen Byram ( 3.85 @ 2 RFA )
1st Round Pick in 2024 - COL
3rd Round Pick in 2025 - COL
RW - Logan O’Connor ( 1.05 @ 2 UFA )

To Colorado Avalanche :
RW - William Nylander ( 6.96 @ 1 UFA )




Tyler Bertuzzi - Auston Matthews - Mitch Marner
Matthew Knies - John Tavares - Max Domi
Nicholas Robertson - Calle Jarnkrok - Logan O’Connor
Sam Lafferty - David Kampf - Ryan Reaves

Morgan Rielly - TJ Brodie
Bowen Byram - John Klingberg
Mark Giordano - Timothy Liljegren / Jake McCabe


Jonathan Drouin - Nathan MacKinnon - Mikko Rantanen
Valeri Nichushkin - Ryan Johansen - William Nylander
Miles Wood - Colton Ross - Artturi Lehkonen
Andrew Cogliano - Ben Myers - Fredrik Olofsson

Devon Toews - Cale Makar
Samuel Girard - Josh Manson
Jack Johnson - Kurtis MacDermid

09 Sep 2023 11:11:52
again. you are overvaluing Nylander. too many parts for one guy.

09 Sep 2023 18:35:00
I don't see that happening Casual. That is way too much to give for one year of a winger they can't resign.

09 Sep 2023 23:47:40
@memarcusjoe yeah i forgot to mention it was a sign and trade once again lmao my bad, even still a little much probably. It was originally supposed to be Byram, O'Connor and a 1st for Nylander extended but i thought it was too little.

09 Sep 2023 23:54:22
As a leafs fan I really don’t want another LD but for cap purposes I’d swap Nylander for Byram 1 for 1.

10 Sep 2023 11:33:01
I can’t foresee COL trading Byram, but these teams seem to have the potential to make some kind of deal.

11 Sep 2023 14:27:45
Nylander extended (depending on the amount) holds a tonne of value. That being said I don't see Byram being dealt anytime soon. With Landy being out for the foreseeable future I could see them going after Nylander, but the one guy that woulda been an intriguing add for the Leafs got dealt to the Habs already.

11 Sep 2023 19:44:52
MG - I am curious which player you're referring to that was traded to MTL that would have been intriguing add for the leafs.

12 Sep 2023 18:45:05
@Chickenfoot- Newhook (obviously would have been other removing pieces as well) . I just think he would have added something to the 3rd line. Durable guy (played every game last year) with pretty good foot speed who I think still has some room to grow at only 22 years old. Habs did well with Dach and I think they'll do the same with Newhook.

13 Sep 2023 19:36:48
MG: Gotcha. I'm curious to see if the kid has more to offer. Dach surprised me too. I thought he was going to be one of those guys who is talented, but injury-prone, and therefore not reach his potential.

Time will tell the truth, as it always does.

14 Jul 2023 04:25:38
To Colorado Avalanche :
C - Mikael Backlund ( 5.35 @ 1 UFA )

To Calgary Flames :
D - Samuel Girard ( 5.00 @ 4 UFA )

Colorado has been wanting to move Girard for a while now and was rumoured to be extremely interested in Backlund. Flames will need a D replacement for Hanifin, everything works out cap wise and positional. Colorado would be trading from a position of strength.

MacKinnon
Johansen
Backlund

14 Jul 2023 15:05:45
This makes sense, but the Habs went hard after Girard and couldn't get him. I can see the fit you laid out, but given that Girard is much younger and under contract reasonably for 4 years, I think CGY ads a high pick or quality prospect.

14 Jul 2023 17:13:49
Avalanche also just got Johansen. Maybe they go after Backlund at the deadline but not now and not for Girard IMO.

05 Jul 2023 03:16:53
To Calgary Flames :
1st Round Pick in 2024 - PIT
D - Owen Pickering ( 918k @ 3 RFA )
C/LW - Samuel Poulin ( 863k @ 1 RFA )

To Pittsburgh Penguins :
D - Noah Hanifin ( 4.95 @ 1 UFA )


To Calgary Flames :
1st Round Pick in 2024 - COL

To Colorado Avalanche :
C - Mikael Backlund ( 5.35 @ 1 UFA )
4th Round Pick in 2025 - CGY


To Calgary Flames :
RW - Travis Konecny ( 5.50 @ 2 UFA )
D - Travis Sanheim ( 6.25 @ 8 UFA )

To Philadelphia Flyers :
1st Round Pick in 2024 - CGY
1st Round Pick in 2024 - PIT
1st Round Pick in 2024 - COL
G - Daniel Vladar ( 2.20 @ 2 UFA )


The rumoured package for Hanifin at the draft was Pickering, 1st, Poulin for Hanifin and Vladar but the Flames turned it down. Penguins are still actively interested so I think this is more than fair, also Pelletier and Poulin are best friends. Flames were the front runners for Sanheim at the draft and are still interested according to multiple Philadelphia Twitter insiders. The price was reportedly a late first or 2nd +. Konecny and Sanheim live in Calgary, aswell as Sanheim’s parents, Flames having problems keeping players, they need a Top 6 RW and a Hanifin replacement. Colorado is extremely interested in Mikael Backlund but no word on the Flames asking price.



J Huberdeau - E Lindholm - T Konecny
A Mangiapane - N Kadri - M Coronato
J Pelletier - S Poulin - Y Sharangovich
D Dube - B Coleman - W Duehr

M Weegar - R Andersson
T Sanheim - C Tanev
O Kylington - N Zadorov

J Markstrom
D Wolf

05 Jul 2023 12:58:15
Good one Casual, and fair to all.

05 Jul 2023 18:36:21
I'm all for bringing Konecny into the fold. That would be a nice addition to the top 6. Poulin? Maybe. Just because he's Pelletier's bud, it doesn't mean they have to line up together. You can't bury Dube as the 4th line LW either. I'd see him as more of a 3rd line C to replace Backlund. He has that ability in his game.

Huberdeau - Lindholm - Konecny
Mangiapane - Kadri - Sharangovich
Coleman - Dube - Coronato
Pelletier - Poulin - Duehr

05 Jul 2023 19:55:32
I think calgary waits, sanhiem is off the table so calgary has a top 4 on on some teams, top 2 on most, doubt . Do think if I understand noway calgary gets under the cap unless a trade in place for kadri.

04 Jul 2023 04:17:47
To Calgary Flames :
RW - William Nylander ( 6.96 @ 1 UFA )

To Toronto Maple Leafs :
D - Noah Hanifin ( 4.95 @ 1 UFA )
3rd Round Pick in 2026 - CGY
C - Mikael Backlund ( 2.67 @ 1 UFA )
(50% Salary Retention on Backlund)


To Calgary Flames :
C/RW - Sam Reinhart ( 6.50 @ 1 UFA )
Conditional 1st Round Pick in 2026 - FLA
(If Lindholm doesn’t resign, the pick turns into a 2nd in 2025)

To Florida Panthers :
C - Elias Lindholm ( 4.85 @ 1 UFA )


Apparently the Leafs are interested in a lot of Flames players but they are hesitant to trade with Treliving, which is odd. Nylander contract negotiations aren’t going well because it’s rumoured he wants 9-10 million, I think the Flames would most likely pay that price. Both Reinhart and Nylander’s fathers are former Flames, Nylander is from Calgary aswell. They want people who they think would stay. Backlund is exactly the type of player they need for the playoffs and at 50% retained salary I think he’d hold alot of value. Colorado is rumoured to be very interested in Backlund.


J Huberdeau - S Reinhart - W Nylander
J Pelletier - N Kadri - M Coronato
D Dube - Y Sharangovich - A Mangiapane
A Ruzicka - B Coleman - W Duehr

M Weegar - R Andersson
O Kylington - C Tanev
N Zadorov - J Oesterle


T Bertuzzi - A Matthews - M Marner
M Knies - J Tavares - M Domi
N Robertson - M Backlund - C Jarnkrok
S Lafferty - D Kampf - R Reaves

N Hanifin - M Rielly
J McCabe - J Klingberg
M Giordano - T Brodie


C Verhaeghe - A Barkov - M Tkachuk
E Rodrigues - E Lindholm - S Bennett
E Luostarinen - A Lundell - S Lorentz
R Lomberg - N Cousins - K Stenlund

O Ekman-Larsson - A Ekblad
G Forsling - B Montour
N Mikkola - M Reilly

04 Jul 2023 15:59:30
Like it.

04 Jul 2023 21:17:17
I’d do the Nylander trade if the flames took Murray or added a 2nd. Backlund makes a lot of sense but Hanfin wouldn’t be my 1st choice to target.

04 Jul 2023 23:49:47
Replace Hanafin with Tanev. And I would argue that since you want CGY retaining salary that the 3rd would go the other way. And add Liljegren.

05 Jul 2023 01:05:23
Maybe hanifan and backlund, no retention, but hanifin and backlund on great deal only if for 1 year, less than nylander by himself it sounds like. Can't see calgary retaining a cent on either contract unless nylander will take a bit less to play in calgary with extention in place.

05 Jul 2023 03:22:34
@Shootsmcgee Nylander doesn’t seem like the type to take discounts lol Nylander is using Marner for contract comparison when realistically Nylander should get what Meier got.

05 Jul 2023 20:31:17
Notcasual . Nylander may take a bit discount for going home, not much but if he wants to win, no go. hanifin and backlund are gone so maybe keep nylander for 1 year or more have a more complete roster. Truly would rather have both backlund and hanifin over nylander but both teams having troubles.

16 Jun 2023 00:42:39
To Calgary Flames :
27th Overall Selection in 2023 - COL
C/LW - Alex Newhook ( RFA )

To Colorado Avalanche :
LW/RW - Tyler Toffoli ( 4.25 @ 1 UFA )
112th Overall Selection in 2023 (4TH) - CGY

16 Jun 2023 03:12:15
like it from flames standpoint.

16 Jun 2023 11:42:16
Value seems good. Colorado needs the help up front. Won't be surprised if they go after Drouin as well if the money is right. A reunion with MacKinnon could be exactly what he needs.

16 Jun 2023 15:39:48
I REALLY like what Toffoli brings to a team. He produces, and is a really good teammate.

That said, Newhook and a 1st for Toffoli and a 4th seems pretty steep for a guy whose UFA at the end of the season. Newhook is 11 years younger, so combined with a 1st, that's a whole lot of future for one year of Toffoli, who will DEFINITELY hit the market as a UFA.

16 Jun 2023 16:31:35
@Chickenfoot I could see Toffoli resigning with Colorado if the fit is good. I haven't seen a whole lot of Newhook so I don't know where his value is at. 11 years younger is quite a bit though. Maybe it's a conditional first based on Toffoli's production. Not sure that's allowed under the new CBA though.

18 Jun 2023 19:44:20
I would say Colorado likely tries to target a C first before going after a winger.

19 Jun 2023 16:48:47
MG: When a player is a UFA, most will choose to go to market. This will be his last big chance to hit it big salary-wise, but you may be right.

19 Jun 2023 17:32:53
@Chickenfoot- I agree. He could definitely cash in, but I feel like he's also the kind of guy that would stick around AND take a pay cut if it meant another cup run was possible.

20 Jun 2023 03:00:45
I hear you MG, but careers are short, and the chance to hit the jackpot matters more than sentimentality to most, or at least it should. No team matters like the home team?.

14 Jun 2023 17:12:16
Winnipeg
Scheifele

Calgary
Elias Lindholm (resigns 2 years @ 5mil)

Winnipeg Gets: Girard, Lehkonen, 2023-1st, 2023-3rd


Avalanche Gets: Dubois


Kings
Moore
Danault
Durzi
Copley

Jets
Hellebuyck
Stanley
Heinola
2025-2nd and 3rd

Jets
Wheeler

Chicago
2023-3rd(dallas)
2025-4th(rangers)
Blackwell

Jets
Pionk
2024-3rd

Florida
Montour(resigns @ 3 years 4.75 million)


Potential free agent Targets: Toews, Dumba, JVR, E.Johnson, Jordan Staal, Hornqvist, Bertuzzi, Tatar, F.Anderson, Killorn, Orlov, Brossoit, Nedeljkovic, Raanta


Jets lines: Forwards
Connor-Lindholm-Ehlers
Niederreiter-Danault-Lehkonen
Barron-Lowry-Appleton
Blackwell-Stenlund-AJF
Defense
Morrissey-Montour
Girard-Durzi
Dillon-Schmidt

Goalies:
Raanta
Copley

I can see the jets signing someone like Toews, Dumba and Raanta.
Potential signings, Tatar, Bertuzzi, JVR, Orlov.

The trades builds a different forward core and they bring in centers to fill those to caps on the top 2 lines. They bring in lehkonen who can be productive in the regular season and be quite helpful in the playoffs.

They also improve on Defense with the pickups of montour, durzi and Girard. I should've added a schmidt trade, but i can see the jets trading schmidt, but who really knows with them.

To be honest I don't see them trading any players besides dubois.

14 Jun 2023 19:22:41
Apparently Lindholm wants to go to the free agency market and if that's the case it makes absolutely no sense for Winnipeg. I'd also value Lindholm higher than Scheifele, they put up similar numbers but Lindy is cheaper, Selke calibre and younger (not by much).

15 Jun 2023 00:16:13
I don't see Calgary doing the 1st one.

Not enough for Dubois. The last thing Winnipeg needs is another LHD, they have too many as it is, so Girard has no value to the Jets. Lehkonen is too old to consider in return for PLD. The Jets want youth with team control.

The Jets won't be looking to get older if trading Hellebuyck. The deal needs to be built around Byfield, Clarke or Spence, sunbathing like that. Young players with team control. Not vets on the back 9. Apparently though LA wants PLD, not Hellebuyck.

Wheeler isn't waiving for Chicago, nor would they want him.


Florida declines.

15 Jun 2023 03:21:58
Not enough for Dubois? At Lehkonens cap hit, his value is probably similar. No from Colorado.

15 Jun 2023 07:11:22
Lol at Lindholm signing at 5 mil. When Kevin Hayes is making 7 mil. He will get a Guadreau contract.

15 Jun 2023 16:23:38
Memarcus. You don't think wheeler may want to go play 1st line minutes with Bedard instead of way less with Winnipeg? Get his stock up so a contender will actually want him for a playoff run next year? his contract is very hard to trade to a contender as is so may be his best shot a picking a team next year trade deadline.

14 Jun 2023 15:00:06
COL needs forwards, and WPG needs to understand that they're at a crossroads, and need to trade the players that won't re-sign (Dubois & Hellebuyck)


COL:

2023 1st
2024 (1st & 4th)
2025 (Conditional) 1st*

*Becomes a 3rd if Dubois signs elsewhere.


WPG:

Dubois (RFA)


- WPG typically acquires their talent through the draft, or trading for players with term.

- WPG can trade or make the picks. (I think they need to try to reload over the next couple of years, especially with Wheeler's 8.25M coming off the books after the coming season.)

- COL pays a big price, but Dubois is the 2C they need.

- COL loses a lot of draft capital, but they get the right guy, and they have a shot at re-signing him.

- COL won't have their Captain this year, and possibly longer. They need another key piece now, and don't have enough bodies to trade with only 12 under contract for the coming year.


"Sign & Trades" are listed frequently on this page, but "Conditional Pick" trades are more likely to resolve situations like this. The shared risk/reward of a conditional 1st is certainly one possibility for resolving pending UFA situations like Dubois'.

Each team has choices to make, and this is certainly one potential solution.

14 Jun 2023 15:27:03
Your can't make picks conditional on a player re-signing anymore.

It's unlikely Winnipeg trades Dubois in division for a couple late picks on their own, there would need to be a young roster player with lots of team control left or a near NHL ready prospect as part of the deal.

It's far more likely that the Jets just trade Dubois to one of the 5 or 6 teams he has told the Jets he is willing to extend with for a more suitable return.

14 Jun 2023 16:48:09
The Jets have to trade PLD, Scheifele. Wheeler and Helly and get the best return for them.
Without Helly they are in trouble.
This team is in more than a retool but a rebuild mode.
Bowness has lost the room when he gave his year end tirade, even though it was a spot on comment.
Unfortunately most of their NHL ready prospects are not very big and they have a head coach that doesn't like playing rookies.
Its going to be a long season.

14 Jun 2023 17:16:48
MEMARCUS: you are 100% correct. The CBA change eliminating "conditional pick for re-signing" happened with the last CBA update 3 years ago. (Not sure how I missed that! )

I think certain players make sense in certain situations, and I really like the Dubois-COL fit. I don't think it makes sense for a rebuilding team at the bottom like MTL though. He's good, but not great, but a 2C spot on a contender like COL would be an ideal fit.


Either way, good catch, and great post man.

15 Jun 2023 15:26:58
@chickenfoot- Make sure you don’t bang your head when you get up from under that table.

15 Jun 2023 16:55:01
?

VB - your logic is known only to you. You're an angry guy, and I appear to live rent free in your head for some reason. (Let me tell you, it's a mess up there, and it needs a lot of work. )

When I'm wrong, I own it. (Confident secure people do that. )

When you're wrong, you melt down and embarrass yourself all over again. (Insecure individuals lacking confidence do what you do. )

Either way, stay classy, and don't break your meds in half. You need the full dose.

19 May 2023 14:32:14
Anaheim Trades
McTavish
Terry
2nd Overall Pick 2023
59h Overall Pick 2023 (Colorado's Pick)
65th Overall Pick 2023

Toronto Trades
Matthews
NRobertson
28th Overall Pick 2023

This is out there but it keeps the prospect pool going in Toronto by stepping one step backwards but at least a few steps forward long term with Cap Space added to add in the off season also.

Anaheim losing out getting Bedard will still get a #1 Centre in Matthews at 25 years old, yes they will have to resign him, but see a sign and trade type of deal to make it a deal.


Thoughts ?

19 May 2023 21:03:57
Not worth it from Anaheim’s perspective, I’m sure they’d rather have McTavish, Fantilli and Terry than 1 expensive player.

22 May 2023 19:35:10
Casual nailed it.

19 May 2023 04:16:21
Time for a change and it makes sence for both teams because it fills a need

TML W.Nylander
COL D.Toews

Straight up 1 for 1
Both players become UFA next year
Nylander will help Colorado in scoring depth and Toews will help the Leafs defence. Toews is so under rated

19 May 2023 17:59:00
Actually with Landeskog out next season this really isn’t bad.

22 May 2023 10:52:36
I agree that it doesn't look too bad but I wonder the value of trading a Defensman for a forward. You better have a solemn piece ready to step up.

22 May 2023 16:51:44
Nylander is with a top pairing defenseman not a 3/ 4. Awful trade.

13 May 2023 04:43:01
To MONTREAL CANADIENS :
D - Samuel Girard ( 5.00 @ 4 UFA )
27th Overall Selection in 2023

To COLORADO AVALANCHE :
RW - Josh Anderson ( 5.50 @ 4 UFA )