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09 May 2019 19:54:06
Two options:

Tor: Kadri



Tor: Kadri

Dallas: Johns, 3rd round pick

Toronto gets their 2nd pairing right shot d-man either way and moves some salary

Kadri gets a new opportunity to purposely injury people in a different city.

09 May 2019 20:33:18
Yes from leafs on the 1st. Big no on the 2nd.

09 May 2019 20:54:40
Carolina wouldn't consider the first deal and I don't know much about Johns other than he looks like a bottom pairing guy, so that deal doesn't look too bad.

09 May 2019 21:17:50
So Kadri is worth a bottom pairing d man and a 3rd to you Joe? I know Kadri is no Bryan Little but he can fetch more than that.

09 May 2019 22:16:12

09 May 2019 22:29:15
I don't know much about Johns. he's a bottom pairing guy. looks good"

Lmao, stop hating man. Trouba's apperantly worth Sergachev+ or Reinhart+ but Kadri is worth a bottom pairing guy? Get lost, haha. Hell no from Toronto on the deal.

And on the first deal, before the playoffs, that's probably a win-win for both teams, but with the way Carolina has fared in the playoffs, they'd almost certainly rather keep that elite dcore together than trade one away, unless its for a young elite forward.

09 May 2019 22:06:28
Johns looks like a bottom 6 Defenceman so that deal doesn't look bad #memarcusjoe?
And here is the problem on this site and that reply confirms there are a bunch of Leaf haters on here.
No a Bottom 6 Defenceman and a 3rd Round Pick isn't even close to getting Kadri on a Cap friendly contract.

09 May 2019 23:29:39
Kadri really hurt his value this spring. Why would anyone want to take a chance on a guy that is a net negative in the playoffs?

10 May 2019 00:24:43
Come on pinball, pesce is worth a lot more then kadri. Ok he's on a good contract, so is pesce, younger and better. Not saying kadri is bad but no way gets you Pesce.

10 May 2019 00:46:23
Personally I don’t think Kadri is all that great but I will say if that was a 2nd and 3rd it would be a done deal, since after the playoffs Kadri is not looked as a great pickup. I know jones is a 4/ 5 D meaning he can be your #4 but is best as your #5.

10 May 2019 00:54:25
Yea i don't see why people on this site undervalue kadri so much smh

10 May 2019 02:55:18
I wish oilers had Kadri.

10 May 2019 04:25:03
Kadri’s antics are definitely an issue but he still holds value. Back to back 32 goal seasons playing #2 center and on a good contract. Everyone knew he wasn’t scoring 30 goals once Tavares was signed.

10 May 2019 05:27:07
I do not think Leafs would trade Kadri for Johns. I do not understand this trade. First Kadri is worth Pesce, but then second trade is only worth Johns? Is this post by mistake maybe? Yes. It must be mistake. Because or else I do not understand how is Kadri worth so much and not so much at the same time.

10 May 2019 06:49:04
Zamboni, that's what we've been discussing and I think most agree Kadri is much closer to Johns in value that he is to Pesce.

10 May 2019 08:47:19
Biasjoe it’s actually most who think neither deal is accurate. There’s even some non leaf fans who would want Kadri on their team or think he’s underated. You should try not being so judgemental of every player not playing for the jets. You and Islandjet make yourselves look like immature kids with every post.

10 May 2019 12:12:35
Honestly Kadri>Trouba And his 9 million asking price.

10 May 2019 12:19:21
Kadris not a net negative in the playoffs, tf? Even @MJ said he wouldn't mind if Edmonton had Kadri. Kadris drive is what makes him a good player. In a diminished role this year he still put up 45 points. Yes he hurt his value in the playoffs, but i'd rather keep him than trade him for Johns haha. Then apperantly Mathieu Perraulet is worth a 2nd+ or lLittles worth a 1st++ even tho they are well worse than Naz.

10 May 2019 16:06:50
I think MeMarcusJoe must needs change his name to MeMarcusJoke. Kadri is very good player, yes. He is much valuable than Johns. But MeMarcusJoke knows that. He only make trouble because of the Trouba.

10 May 2019 16:37:55
idk why people are disagreeing with vb's first comment, its 100% true. leafs would defs take the first trade and they would not make the second one.

05 May 2019 16:06:10
Oilers: jesse P , 2019 2nd round pick

Islanders: dal colle , ho-sang

All 3 players have struggled since draft and could use a change

Jesse is younger than dal colle so should make the 2nd round for ho-sang fair?

05 May 2019 17:45:37
This is stupid. If you wanted to make a smart offer you strictly go for Ho-Sang and you keep pool party. And he does not get a 2nd round either.

05 May 2019 23:44:29
Mr. McKnowItAll is very aggressive, yes? He must be a hockey insider. We should all listen to him. He knows very much. I think is good trade, yes. I understand why you make this trade, and I think is very smart. Is good trade, yes. Very good. Maybe pick is too high for Ho-Sang like Mr. McSmartyPants says. But is very good idea.

06 May 2019 01:19:49
I’ll take Ho-Sang over Puljujarvi.

06 May 2019 15:31:10
reading what zamboni types out hurts my brain.

06 May 2019 19:21:14
also what are your reasonings for that vb, i am curious why youd say youd rather have ho-sang over pool party.

06 May 2019 19:52:49
Ho-Sang has the talent/ drive/ size/ IQ etc to be a good hockey player if a team wants to deal with his attitude where as Puljujarvi has a better attitude he is less skilled but his size makes up for that but the reason I’d take Ho-Sang over Puljujarvi is Puljujarvi lack of hockey IQ.

06 May 2019 20:42:59
Fair enough!

06 May 2019 21:02:15
Vb did you see him at wjc? Much better than laine and Aho.

06 May 2019 21:29:07
i also don't agree with ho-sang over pool swechamp, that's vb's opinion tho and that's fine, but that was something i would have mentioned saying you can't tie a world jr record without having some IQ, but pool certainly has not done much at NHL level so its tough to judge him. I still think once he's comfortable speaking english and can stay on a line and not be moved around every period he will gain his confidence back. really hoping Holland sees the potential in pool party and gets a coach to help guide him. he will be a good player one day he has all the tools, just needs confidence.

07 May 2019 02:04:13
Jesse Puljujarvi at the time of the WJC was a dominant force because of his mixture of Size/ Skill and mostly because of his maturity he hit his peak of his development young and when at the WJC he was a man amongst boys his skill set excels when playing against weaker opponents compared to a player like Laine whom no matter who he’s playing against if he gets a scoring opportunity there is a solid chance it’s going in. Puljujarvi hit his peak when he was young but obviously he still has all the tools to be a force. Playing professional hockey in the Finnish top league at 16 played a huge role in his dominance.

07 May 2019 03:02:32
Did you just say he hit his peak young lol are you serious. Guy was 17 when he was in his prime?

07 May 2019 14:49:53
That’s not what I meant. I mean is peak in dominance. He ripped up his league when he was 17 but he probably won't rip up a league again. His highlight of his career is most likely going to be his WJC performance. He’ll get better but will he be a dominant force in the best hockey league in the world? 99% chance he isn’t.

07 May 2019 16:27:31
99% chance you have no idea what he will be like though! Do you think Rantanen on Colorado was going to be as good as he is now, not a chance. And he never “broke” into the league until he was Puljujarvi’s age this season. so there is still time to right the ship for him. He can still be a dominate player he just needs to figure out. Also there are only a handful of players who are truly dominant in the NHL so idk why you’d use that word. Should have said impactful. Which I think he can still be if he gets some confidence.

07 May 2019 16:31:07
if the highlight of his career is tying a record in the world juniors that's a pretty enormous accomplishment lol tying Jagr to. that's very impressive. so your argument like usual is so irrelevant. but like i said eariler, fair enough that's your hatred opinion!

07 May 2019 21:24:52
How is that a hatred opinion i offered Andreas Johnsson for him in earlier trade posts. Who is a player that the oilers hope Puljujarvi can become. He’s closer to the bust Catagory then what he was projected to be ( dominant force ) . Lots of players have amazing world juniors but that doesn’t mean they’ll make it in the NHL level.

23 Apr 2019 19:19:35
Toronto Trades
7th Round Pick 2019 (Stars Pick)

Winnipeg Trades

Jets will probably not be able to resign KHayes and there need for a #2 Centre will still be Top priority, Kadri fits that roll very well.

Same old story for the Leafs of needing that Top RHanded Shooting DMan, Trouba fits that roll perfectly.

Thoughts ?

23 Apr 2019 19:34:05
No thanks. No interest in Kadri.

23 Apr 2019 19:36:23
There is no way that Kadri is worth Trouba even with a useless 7th round pick added. Kadri at 44 points is no #2 center while Trouba 50 points is a true top airing rhd. Little had 41 points so what upgrade is Kadri. The Jets will get much better offers for Trouba at the draft if they decide to trade him. Also Kadri is one more stupid head shot away from being suspended for 15+ games so who needs that.

23 Apr 2019 20:11:37
buddy i'd take kadri over little any day what are you saying christ. but true that mans needs to be on a leash if he does something idiotic again

but agree trouba can get more/ better offer yup.

23 Apr 2019 20:43:27
The Leaf are going to try and dump Kadri as he has not done anything but get suspensions and turtle when challenged face to face. I know that Little isn't a true #2 anymore but as a #3 he is way more reliable than Kadri. Explain why you think Kadri is a true #2 center, if you can and stop with the childish name calling as it is so embarrassing. So grow up.

23 Apr 2019 20:52:06
No from Winnipeg but Kadri is much better then little.

23 Apr 2019 22:14:12
wtf when and where did i say any name calling are you blind. and not once did i say kadri is a #2 center so why are you getting so defensive chill out buddy like your telling me to grow up lol relax sorry i don't think little is better than kadri bcuz he's not.

23 Apr 2019 22:20:16
Islandjet where did notdelusional use any sort of “childish name calling” what are you saying. Don’t tell people to grow up for no reason.
Kadri and little have had similar stats throughout their careers (above 40 points) but at this point I’d also take Kadri over Little if I had the chance. More skill and is a pest but also a coward yup but he’s got more skill and has a couple 30 goal seasons on his resume.

23 Apr 2019 23:52:22
His stats were decreased because of a lesser role this season he’s a 2c on almost every other team.

24 Apr 2019 02:57:01
I also think that Kadri is better than Little at this time, due to age and contract but neither is a true #2 center. Plus Kadri isn't worth Trouba.

24 Apr 2019 13:47:33
How isn’t Kadri a true number 2C there’s 20 teams in the NHL where he’d be the 2C or higher.

15 Apr 2019 15:07:20
Calgary Flames -
• (C) Mikael Backlund
• (2019) 30th Overall Pick
Buffalo Sabres -
• (RW) Sam Reinhart

Calgary Flames -
• (LHD) TJ Brodie
Anaheim Ducks -
• (RHD) Josh Manson

Calgary Flames -
• (C) Mark Jankowski
Dallas Stars -
• (C) Andrew Cogliano (25% Salary Retained)

Calgary Flames -
• (C) Austin Czarnik
• (2020) 1st-Round Pick
• (RW) Michael Frolik
New York Rangers -
• (LHD) Marc Staal

Johnny Gaudreau - Sean Monahan - Elias Lindholm
Matthew Tkachuk - Sam Bennett - Sam Reinhart
Andrew Mangiapane - Andrew Cogliano - James Neal
Alan Quine - Derek Ryan - Garnet Hathaway

Mark Giordano - Josh Manson
Noah Hanifin - Travis Hamonic
Marc Staal - Rasmus Andersson

15 Apr 2019 23:01:33
WAAAAY too much for marc staal at this point. you could prob get him for frolik and czarnik and a 4th.

16 Apr 2019 13:53:05
For Staal? Ill take that and run.

16 Apr 2019 14:13:51
Why do either Dallas or Anaheim do this? I think everyone takes Manson over Brodie, and Dallas loves Cogliano.

Also I like Reinhart but Flames need to keep Backlund.

18 Apr 2019 11:01:49
Marc Staal is a cap dump.

29 Mar 2019 17:47:19
Calgary Flames acquire (D) Dustin Byfuglien from the Winnipeg Jets in exchange for (D) Travis Hamonic & (C) Dillon Dube.

Statistics of Calgary - Winnipeg Trade:

Travis Hamonic, RHD
[28 yrs old]
6'2 205lbs

GP: 66 G: 7 A: 10 Pts: 17 +/- 18

Dustin Byfuglien, RHD
[34 yrs old]
6'5 260lbs

GP: 37 G: 4 A: 26 Pts: 30 +/- 4

Dillon Dube, C
[20 yrs old]
5'11 187lbs

2018-19 Stockton Heat
GP: 35 G: 15 A: 24 P: 39 +/- 9

Flames get stronger and more physical and get a big body to protect their stars. (comparable to Lucic protecting McDavid)
Jets get better defensively and younger while adding a young promising prospect. Also Travis Hamonic gets to be with his family in Manitoba.

Calgary Flames acquire (2019) 2nd-Round Pick from the Montreal Canadiens in exchange for (C) Mark Jankowski.

Mark Jankowski, C
[24 yrs old]
6'4 212lbs
GP: 74 G: 11 A: 16 Pts: 27 +/- 3

Calgary Flames acquire (D) Josh Manson from the Anaheim Ducks in exchange for (D) Oliver Kylington, Michael Frolik & (2020) 2nd-Round Pick.

Josh Manson, RHD
[27 yrs old]
6'3 216lbs
GP: 74 G: 3 A: 13 Pts: 16 +/- -8

Oliver Kylington, LHD
[21 yrs old]
6'0 183lbs
GP: 36 G: 3 A: 4 Pts: 7 +/- 2

Michael Frolik, RW
[31 yrs old]
6'1 190lbs
GP: 60 G: 15 A: 18 Pts: 33 +/- 25

Calgary Flames acquire (RW) Kasperi Kapanen from the Toronto Maple Leafs in exchange for (D) Rasmus Andersson.

Rasmus Andersson, RHD
[22 yrs old]
6'1 214lbs
GP: 74 G: 2 A: 14 Pts: 16 +/- 12

Kasperi Kapanen, RW
[22 yrs old]
6'1 192lbs
GP: 73 G: 19 A: 24 Pts: 43 +/- 14

Calgary Flames sign (UFA) Carl Hagelin to a 2 year deal worth 4M.

Projected Lines:

Johnny Gaudreau - Sean Monahan - Elias Lindholm
Matthew Tkachuk - Mikael Backlund - Kasperi Kapanen
Carl Hagelin - Sam Bennett - James Neal
Andrew Mangiapane - Derek Ryan - Garnet Hathaway

Mark Giordano - Dustin Byfuglien
Noah Hanifin - TJ Brodie
Juuso Välimaki - Josh Manson

David Rittich

(Flames then have Byfuglien, Tkachuk, Manson, Bennett, Hathaway to make sure the Flames don't get pushed around.)

29 Mar 2019 19:52:54
Girodano for Kulikov and Jack Rovlivic.

29 Mar 2019 20:59:57
Giordano going to most likely get the norris so no. But you can have Neal for Roslovic and Kulikov LOL

30 Mar 2019 01:37:25
Not enough of an incentive for the Jets to take a downgrade from Buff to Hamonic.

30 Mar 2019 02:16:14
Plus Hamonic only has 1 year left on his contract. after this year before wanting a big raise. No interest at all from Winnipeg.

30 Mar 2019 03:29:33
Buff and gio are close in value.

30 Mar 2019 08:24:53
Not even close?! Giordano and Byfuglien aren't close with all do respect. Both great hockey players, but how can you say that like cmon. Just cause the guy hits hard don't mean he's close to gio.

30 Mar 2019 12:26:09
Buff is signed to a reasonable long term contract and won't be traded at this time unless he wants to be moved. The Jets are the 2nd youngest team in the NHL so getting younger isn't a priority plus they have bigger prospects with more upside than Dube who are NHL ready, if they can crack the Jets deep lineup.

30 Mar 2019 14:05:28
Buff was on on pace for 70 points this season before he got injured he’s much better then gio offensively and he debatably the greatest physical presence in the game.

30 Mar 2019 14:09:33
My bad he was on pace for 58 points.

30 Mar 2019 17:48:08
tkatchuk isn't even tough he's just a P. O. S and a rat who gets under your skin lol who is also a good hockey player.

30 Mar 2019 22:33:31
I'd take big Buff before Gio any day of the week.

30 Mar 2019 23:54:45
Dube is good prospect, yes. But Winnipeg wants to win now. This trade makes them weaker next year, yes. They must not make trades that make them weaker if they want to win now. Is good trade for future, but not for today.

29 Mar 2019 07:21:14
Calgary Flames acquire (D) Dustin Byfuglien from the Winnipeg Jets in exchange for (D) Travis Hamonic & (C) Dillon Dube.

Statistics of Calgary - Winnipeg Trade:

Travis Hamonic, RHD
[28 yrs old]
6'2 205lbs

GP: 66 G: 7 A: 10 Pts: 17 +/- 18

Dustin Byfuglien, RHD
[34 yrs old]
6'5 260lbs

GP: 37 G: 4 A: 26 Pts: 30 +/- 4

Dillon Dube, C
[20 yrs old]
5'11 187lbs

2018-19 Stockton Heat
GP: 35 G: 15 A: 24 P: 39 +/- 9

Flames get stronger and more physical and get a big body to protect their stars. (comparable to Lucic protecting McDavid)
Jets get better defensively and younger while adding a young promising prospect. Also Travis Hamonic gets to be with his family in Manitoba.

29 Mar 2019 12:00:32
I just don't see the Jets doing that even with Hamonic being younger. I think the Jets would want more than an aging second pair defenseman and a meh center.

29 Mar 2019 14:38:56
I think the Jets would take this and run! I like Buff. but. really Joe?

29 Mar 2019 15:03:07
What are you saying joe, Jets for sure take this offer. Serviceable RHD and one of calgarys top prospects like come on buddy.

29 Mar 2019 15:09:40
hahaha Jets homerism at. its. finest. Atta boy Marcus don't stop never stoppin'.

29 Mar 2019 15:37:19
Byfuglien is almost a point a game. I think Jets say no as well. Dube is going to be a middle 6 guy isn’t he? If there was a high pick added then possibly to save cap I could see it.

29 Mar 2019 15:56:26
Buff is awesome but he’s 34 and his body is breaking down (not surprising given his size and style of play) . Big letdown for my fanto squad this year as I don’t think he was 100% ever this year.

29 Mar 2019 16:05:14
Chevy would never make that ridiculous trade. The Jets have no reason to trade Buff at this time. However I can see them trading Trouba at the draft if they can't resign him to a long term contract.

30 Mar 2019 01:35:22
Yes, there are some people here that are really bad at judging values. Maybe after next year a trade like this could be done, but trading a game changing 1RHD for an okay second pairing guy and an okay bottom 6 center.

Only on this site is that a good idea. 😄.

30 Mar 2019 08:26:26
At this point i feel joe and jets are the same person yall biased as hell

30 Mar 2019 12:38:23
I think Memarcusjoe is totally realistic in his assessment of this one sided trade proposal. Calgary's fans and the NHL pundents have been saying all year what a bad season Hamonic is having so you think a smart GM like Chevy would do this trade?

30 Mar 2019 13:08:25
Hamonic isn't having a bad season? He plays his role pretty good actually.

30 Mar 2019 16:01:21
Well of course a Calgary fan is going to think this is a good trade. They make out like bandits. You are ridiculously biased Sean.

31 Mar 2019 16:34:51
I really like big Buff and can kinda see why that even with the huge age difference betwen him and Hamonic, they do prefer to keep Buff. And Hamonic is UFA next year I believe. And he's clost to 30 as well so it's not like they're getting a young buck. And Dube hasn't prove nothing in the nhl and is a second rounder. Some of them becomes surprised and can be good nhl players and some of them are busts. But they'res no draft position premium with him wich means he's worth maybe a 2rd pick now.

25 Mar 2019 17:32:15
Not sure if anyone has seen Kovalchuk's comments criticizing Willie Desjardins scratching him and with a re-tool needed in LA not sure if there's any hopeful playoff teams wanting to take on that $$ this offseason.

Dallas: Jason Dickinson, Blake Comeau, 5th 2019
LA: Ilya Kovalchuk (25%) retained.

25 Mar 2019 19:27:28
Kovalchuck should jus quit again and go back to KHL. I wouldn't want him on my team. maybe 5 or 6 years ago, when his talent was worth the headaches of his selfishness .

25 Mar 2019 19:29:31
Would be very good move for Dallas Kovy is still a PPG player in the right situation if you’ve seen him play 20 games you’d understand. + the Kovy/ Radulov connection.

26 Mar 2019 00:50:13
I dunno VB. ya, maybe he can play with Dallas. I don't see PPG however. at best I see 25 goals and 15 to 20 assist. Not bad for a guy 35+ .
I thinks he's a bit of a headache.

26 Mar 2019 19:54:02
I have to strongly disagree agree but this years production paints a picture that gives your statement credibility.

05 Mar 2019 11:43:50
Mtl: Primeau, 5rd2019

NYI: Dal Colle

Not an offseason trade but we can't use him for playoffs.

05 Mar 2019 22:14:01
No thanks we will need a goalie before we need dal colle.

05 Mar 2019 23:22:07
If islanders really need a goalie then i'm sure they consider since Dal Colle sucks.

06 Mar 2019 00:38:42
No thnx from montreal lol.

06 Mar 2019 14:42:14
Dal Colle isn't looking like a bust. so is McCarron for Habs. flip those two guys. See if a change will help with their careers.

06 Mar 2019 21:22:46
Meant to say is looking.

06 Mar 2019 21:26:12
Dal colle looks good at time he's looking like Puljujarvi tbh.

07 Mar 2019 15:05:28
well puljujarvi is two years younger and has never played in north america before, dal colle sucks and clearly is a wasted draft pick at #5. when puljujarvi is 22 we will see where he's at and then we can compare.

08 Mar 2019 15:17:30
DalColle was developed too slowly. They should have played him AHL earlier instead of leaving him in junior so long.

09 Mar 2019 18:21:37
Zamboni they couldn’t he was ineligible to play in the ahl. He hadn’t reached the eligibility and when he did he was brought in.

10 Mar 2019 02:30:16
You got to think the potential is still there. He obviously has a lot of talent. Maybe Islanders can make a trade similar to the Strome deal?

Why was he ineligible for AHL CTC55?

10 Mar 2019 15:49:41
For a North American skater in the CHL cannot play in the AHL till he reaches a season in which he is 20 years of age or he has played 4 seasons in the CHL before hand.

10 Mar 2019 23:11:48
Interesting. I had no idea about that rule. Any idea why that is?

15 Feb 2019 16:05:46
Here's a thought considering the way Dallas management is acting with their stars plus the stars poor performances this year especially benn and Seguin.

Ott : stone, Duchene, dzingle, Ceci, Paul

Dal : Seguin, benn, Klingberg

Dallas with all the ex sens basically becomes sens west lol.

15 Feb 2019 18:07:07

15 Feb 2019 20:39:55
So DAL downgrades at every position for. Paul?

15 Feb 2019 21:10:26
Omg. This has to be one of the worst proposals I’ve seen on this site yet.

15 Feb 2019 21:39:46
The package coming from Ottawa of UFA's, top 9 player, bottom 6 D and c+ prospect dosnt even get you 2 of those players together. Seguin and been is too much for that package and so is Klingberg and Been.

15 Feb 2019 21:44:44
Topshelfslappers what is so funny? Do you want me to add that the Ottawa guys agree to resign? Because that's the only thing that's lopsided about this deal in Ottawa favour?

Duchene and stone are expected to make close to the same as Seguin and benn make now salary wise. And both Ottawa guys are and have been all along better defensively that the 2 Dallas guys and currently better offencively this season as well, don't believe me look it up! Besides that it's been what? 3 - 4 years now that benn and seguin have not bee themselves? How many years does it take for their value to drop when it took Duchene one year according to you all to drop value significantly even though his play got much better?

As for Klingberg he's a great offencive Dman but needs work defencively, clearly an upgrade on Ceci and cap friendly I get that but that's nothing that dzingle and Paul value can't make up for especially seeing as how Klingberg would take on an EK/ SJS like 2nd pairing role in Ottawa as he ain't bumping chabot the way he's been going and demelo being the compliment to that, I rather see him on the 2 pair with Lajoie.

As for Dallas the get a brand new top line that already has a chemistry about them as well as a Dman with past experience playing with Methot in EKs absence and a kid they drafted and were once very high on who could more easily slip in to a role with main team their than in Ottawa as they have an older team with not as many young guys to have to out play to get a spot. Paul could easily slip in bottom 6, Ceci in top 4 and the other 3 most likely top line but could work anywhere in top 6, and with spezza coming off the books this offseason it's more than affordable for Dallas. Maybe Dallas even flips dzingle, and Ceci, and a 1st in 2020 to Edmonton for nuge who's on the block as well, leaving them with plenty top 6 line combo possibilities, and enough cap to go after panarin as well in offseason.

Panarin Duchene radulov
Nushishkin nuge stone

Or vice versa either would be great and they still have hanzel, Dickinson, Daska, coumeau, and Cogliano for bottom 6 of top of my head, plus gives all their you dmen a spot to fight for like lindell, heiskenen, Honka, with Klingberg gone, while Ottawa gets a solid cap friendly 2 pair dman and 2 long term vets to build the young guys around.

Benn Seguin Ryan
Tkechuck white brown
Formenton pageau Batherson
Paajarvi teirney boadker

And chlapic, balcers, Norris, give em some flexibility to use a forward or few to upgrade the Blueline a bit more and hopefully Move smith, heck teirney value should also be a lot higher now after the season he's had as well.

16 Feb 2019 00:12:02
Extensions would have to be in place first for Dallas to consider. You never said anything about that. Instead you left it to the reader make that assumption. Pretty tall order expecting all those guys to be signed and traded by deadline. Ceci is terrible. Shouldn’t even be in nhl. Dallas would never take him on. Klingberg is a righty. If anything he would be playing with Chabot, not 2nd line.

16 Feb 2019 02:35:12
😭😭😭Omg this ain’t a troll is it. ‘Klingberg is surely an upgrade on Ceci’. Nah, you don’t say LMFAO😭😭🤣

The fact you even think that this stuff is close to equal value is hilarious, don’t come at anyone saying anything about how the Ottawa side of this deal is even close to fair. Its legitamately Dallas’ three best players for Ottawa’s second and third best players and a bunch of others that equate to zero in the grand scheme of the trade bud.

Three or four years benn and seguin haven’t been themselves? Huh? Benn won an art ross two years ago bud😭😭🤣 what are you on about man. Seguin and Benn are now app worse than Stone and Duchene unsigned oh give me a break, you can’t be serious when saying this stuff🤣🤣🤣🤣. Ask any man on the street in any part of Canada or the US i'd they know hockey and they'll take Benn and Seguin 10/ 10. You want to know why? Cause Ottawa has no leverage w either UFA, their career stats (Benn/ Seguins) are superior, their contracts are locked in and their advanced stats are just as good. And the Klingberg thing is just a whole mess lmao Klingberg EASILY himself pulls in. That package minus one of Stone or Duchene, loool.

Stop thinking every teams going to get hosed like ottawa did w. karlsson. Dorion made himself a fool and paid the price. No one else is doing that. No ones trading the three faces of a franchise for two UFAs and extras.

This is the equivalenr of me saying hey Kadri, Nylander, Brown, zaitsev and gabriel gagne pull in benn, seguin and klingberg🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 get a grip bud.

16 Feb 2019 08:45:19
I honestly don't know if Rambo is for real or if he's just pretending to be this super biased Ottawa fan. John Klingberg is not and upgrade to Ceci he's not even on the same planet. he's a top 2 defensemen while Ceci is a bottom pair at best and sometimes not even worthy of being a bottom pair defensemen. A Nathan Beaulieu type guy but Beaulieu is better. Benn and seguin are worth so much more then 2 UFA even if they're signed because those guys are not worth 8 million. Stone and Duchene are good players but at 6.5-7 million each tops. Dzingel has the value of a late first tops while Paul barely has any value. Add Chabot and White and take Dzingel and Paul out and it's closer.

16 Feb 2019 19:49:49
Ok first off Seguin and benn up till as you say, 2 to 3 years ago were better offencively than stone and Duchene I'm not arguing that, but defensive game was and is most definitely on the side of Duchene and stone no question. As of last year the offencive edge had greatly diminished and this year that offensive edge has most definitely been taken over by stone and Duchene, anyone not ignorant to the sport can clearly see that!

And the fact that they can both be signed even cheaper than the Dallas guys also works in their favour as does the current situation in Dallas putting Seguin and benn against Dallas management with the remarks made about them recently by management. If the Hoffman EK stuff this past year affected their value the way it did why would this be any different?

As for Klingberg, yes he's worth more than Ceci but Ceci whether you or I agree or not still carries value in any trade talks in the league, and that's a cold hard fact, add a top 6 forward in dzingle, who posts 40+ points a season, and has a ton of speed like he does, and a prospect originally drafted by Dallas in the first place and has a good chance at making their lineup now. That definitely makes up the difference between Klingberg and Ceci, that much is very clear!

16 Feb 2019 21:26:39
As for the person saying Klingberg would be paired with Chabot in Ottawa if this happened, do you follow how the game is played?

Klingberg is an offencive Dman who somewhat struggles defensively, while Chabot is mainly offencive Dman too I'll be it a little better defensively. You don't put 2 of those types together unless on the powerplay. Demelo compliments Chabot just fine, leaving Klingberg on 2nd pair in Ottawa likely with Lajoie!

And boomboom, go smoke some more wacky tobacky bud, your comment is a joke. Stone and Duchene are Ottawa's best 2 forwards and arguably best 2 players currently and top 40 players in the league respectively while Seguin currently barely gets in that status at number 40 while benn is in the worst year of his career since his breakout season and don't even make top 50 right now.

As for Ceci he's bad yes, but still a top 4 Dman and still better than most dmen in the league today. The only ones better are the big names, and elite prospects, of which Dallas does not have 4 or 5 of those even with Klingberg, 2 maybe 3 tops including Klingberg.

16 Feb 2019 22:20:01
Wow with all these super valuable elite players you would think the Sens wouldn’t be in

*Checks Standings*

Dead last 😂

Ceci is hot garbage, just like this proposal.

17 Feb 2019 03:17:10
Unsportsmanlike so is 85 percent of the dmen in the league don't kid yourself.

Also, stats don't lie, look it up.

And while Ottawa does have solid players, stone Duchene Chabot Lajoie pageau dzingle teirney demelo tkechuck white and even paajarvi looking good with sens

they also have the handicap of not so great players with bad contracts holding them back like smith Ceci jaros

They also have those like borwieski Ryan boadker who might not hurt the team but don't really help it much either

Add that to the kids they continue to leave in the minors and juniors rather than have them in the main lineup where they should be and can help like balcers Batherson chlapic brown and formenton

And if you don't see my point on the evaluations of stone and Duchene vs that of Seguin an benn plus the situations then you clearly don't understand the game!

In the past if you want offense you go for Dallas guys and if you want defensive forwards you take the Ottawa guys, as of now however, in either category you take the Ottawa guys, especially fully signed.

17 Feb 2019 10:46:43
Please provide “stats” that show Ceci is better than 85% of the D-Men in the NHL. Go ahead, I’ll wait here.

17 Feb 2019 17:16:26
He's a top 4 Dman who puts up points and is only out played offensively or defensively by the big names like EK, doughty, Pietrangelo, Jones etc, or has less potential/ outplayed by the elite young defence like dahlin, Chabot, heiskenen, Rielly, etc. Stats are on NHL. com for any further proof.

Now it's your turn unsportsmanlike, please provide any kind of stats you can possibly find stating he's worst than anyon outside those perameters.

How'd you put it? I'm waiting.

17 Feb 2019 18:17:23
Hey look at all those awesome stats you did not post.

I asked you for stats that show he is better than 85% of the defensemen. Your flawed opinion that he is a top 4 d-man who puts up point is not a stat.

Here's an ACTUAL stat: Cody Ceci has a pts/ 60 of 0.016. That's not even in the top 100 for defensemen in the NHL. Just because Ottawa is a DUMPSTER FIRE with zero defensive depth which forces Ceci to log huge minutes does not mean he is effective in doing so. He is also a huge reason why Ottawa has THE WORST goals against in the league (of the 296 defensemen listed, his minus 19 is the 289th) . Sounds like he's getting outplayed defensively by a few more players than the "big names" there genius.

School's out kiddo.

21 Feb 2019 15:50:14
First off I said nhl. com for stats proof you're just too lazy to look and I'm not transferring every detail on there for comparison, I'll be here all year if I did that.

2ndly, whatever that first bit you posted about pts/ 60 of 0.016 that's not even a real stat, what exactly is that supposed to be, ppg? If so, what's the 60 of 0.016? You make no sense.

And 3rdly and most importantly, plus minus, can't even be used as a top contributor in this pretext, as Ceci played and still plays on one of the weaker if not the weakest defensive teams in the league. Let's look at that mighty defence depth Ottawa has.


In the past you can add


But the fact is Chabot demelo and Lajoie were never around at the time of EK and Methot so really that depth chart never really changed.

You talk trash about how bad Ottawa's players are but truth be told their forwards are some of the best in the League and usually include at least 3 in top 100 and 2 in top 50, up front they have tons of depth more than most teams, heck they just got rid of 3 big guns and a depth guy last year and still have enough to role 4 solid lines and have a handful of young guys left in system waiting their shot. The defense is the problem in Ottawa outside a couple guys, always has been. Proof? Watch the Chicago game, scoring not an issue. Getting scored on is!

You wanted to be educated. You're welcome!

21 Feb 2019 20:24:18
Hahaha did you just claim points/ 60 isn't even a real stat? It's points per 60 minutes genius. Shining more light on all the things you don't know about hockey. No wonder you are out to lunch all the time.

And you're right about Ceci playing for one of the weakest defensive teams. You know what contributes to weak defense? Weak defenseman. Like Cody Ceci.

Are you seriously unable to connect the dots here? I honestly think you are trolling because natural selection should have removed somebody this thick from the gene pool by now.

11 Feb 2019 22:47:51
Gustav Nyquist

Stephen Johns
2019 2nd round pick

I believe Johns would be of interest for Detroit as a RHD and would be a good inclusion to give Dallas the necessary cap space to fit Nyuquist's contract in

12 Feb 2019 03:25:25
Johns hasn’t played all year. I would think Detroit would want a guy that is actually playing and not out long term and questionable if he’s going to recover and come back.

10 Feb 2019 15:29:23
Mtl: Gallagher

Dallas: Lindell

Mtl gets a good young LHD while Dallas gets a 30+ goal warrior who will work so hard that Seguin and Benn won't have a choice to do the same if they want to keep up with him. Or if he plays on the second line hell have the same impact but with other players. This trade works for both sides imo

10 Feb 2019 16:15:10
Did Gallagher not sign something for you? Or not wave back. he must have done something, every day your trying to trade him. can you explain why you want to trade Gallagher?

10 Feb 2019 16:46:33
Without a replacement, I don’t think Lindell is going anywhere. Lindell is playing top line beside Klingberg. After him is Heiskenan. Dallas probably doesn’t have enough faith in Heiskenan to put him top line just yet.

10 Feb 2019 18:17:24
I don’t think Dallas would consider trading him.

10 Feb 2019 18:28:29
I do not want to trade Gallagher Sosa. I really like him he's an awsome player and shows up every single game. With that being said, with Domi and Shaw playing with a similar style and Gallagher having a lot of value we could benefit by trading him for a LHD that we need.

And with his style of play Gallagher it's the right time to trade him while he's still healthy and producing. Lindell is 24 years old and on pace for 30 points as a defenceman and he is a fellow Finland player. This trade makes sense for both teams Sosa. Even you can admit that no?

10 Feb 2019 18:25:03
Probably not VB. but I also think Habs don't trade Gallagher .

10 Feb 2019 19:30:26
Nope, I can't Boom, trading Gallagher is just not the right move. a package involving Shaw, ok. But, Gallagher needs to stay.
I agree a Dman like Lindell would be great, but the cost of Gallagher would be to much, you'd also have to probably add to Gallagher for him

And just because a guy is Finnish, doesn't mean we need to add them . I'm sure KK can play with players from any country.

11 Feb 2019 18:03:02
Ok Sosa I agree that maybe trading Gallagher would still leave a massive whole in the top 6 even with Domi and Shaw. I won't propose anymore trade involving Gallagher if you can post a trade that gives mtl a good top 4 LHD and also makes sense for the other team. Deal?

04 Feb 2019 21:46:05
Zuc for Tufte + 2019 2nd

Rangers opt for a higher level prospect instead of the first and stay with a 2nd instead.

Dallas actually gets forward that can play top 6 minutes not named Benn or Radulov

31 Jan 2019 20:08:50
To Dallas: Gustav Nyquist

To Detroit: 2019 2nd round pick, 2020 1st round pick, Nicholas Caamano.

31 Jan 2019 20:17:24
A lot for a rental.

31 Jan 2019 20:25:51
And what do 45-55 point rentals return.

31 Jan 2019 20:26:49
And what do 45-55 point rentals return.

31 Jan 2019 23:42:23

Dallas 1st>> Leafs package.

30 Jan 2019 00:54:23
EDM- Russell (1 mil retained)
BOS or CBJ- 2019 2nd, 2019 3rd
-Russell would be a good defensive D that can play up the depth chart if there’s any injuries. He’d be perfect for a playoff push and after being retained he’d make 3 million for 2 more years.

EDM- Talbot, 2019 4th
PHI- Laughton
-Philly needs better goaltending. Instead of overpaying in free agency they can see if Talbot works out and sign him at a little bit of a discount.

EDM- Chiasson, 2019 5th
WAS- Burakovsky
-Rumour is Washington is looking for a veteran top 9 forward for Burakovsky. Who better than a guy that won a cup last year with them and is on pace for 34 goals.

EDM- Rieder, 2020 4th
DAL- Nichushkin
-Similar to the Cogliano Shore trade. Dallas gets a more proven player while Edmonton gets a player that has fallen out of favour but still has potential.

EDM- Petrovic
MIN or COL- 2020 4th
-Petrovic is a UFA at the end of the season. Just a mid pick for extra depth to a playoff bubble team.

30 Jan 2019 04:13:19
Would love if all those could happen.

30 Jan 2019 04:43:56
@McJ, I know it’s not very realistic for a team to make 5 deadline deals but do you think those are realistic/ fair?

Those are all playoff teams looking to add at the deadline except Philly but that could be a smart move for them.

30 Jan 2019 05:18:10
I definitely think Russell could get moved and if we could get a 2nd round pick and get 4m in cap off that would be sweeeet. Also if it’s true Washington is looking for a veteran then that trade would be really nice for oilers even tho we take on cap so idk if that will work out.

30 Jan 2019 18:34:14
if keith can move atleast 3-4 of the following contracts with taking back minimal salary back i'd call it a huge success:
-Benning, Russell, Petro, Manning, spooner, reider, kassian and talbot.

30 Jan 2019 19:11:00
@notdelusional, Petrovic, Rieder and Talbot should all be easy to move because there UFA’s. As for Benning and Kassian I actually like them on the team even though there slightly overpaid. Lastly Manning and Spooner are on the team because of a bad GM but yeah I’d love for them to be gone.

31 Jan 2019 01:43:41
How long is it going to take to climb out of the hole Chia has dug for the oilers? I’m not seeing a ton of reasons to be optimistic for a quick turnaround.

29 Jan 2019 08:36:09
Dallas: Radulov, Hintz, Honka, 1st round pick 2019, 4th round pick 2019
St. louis: Tarasenko

29 Jan 2019 15:48:43

If the blues trade tarasenko it would be for blue chip prospects and 1st round picks. that offer is beyond crap.

29 Jan 2019 18:26:21
No from Dallas.

29 Jan 2019 19:16:21
you wish you could get tarasenko for that LOL.

29 Jan 2019 20:55:16
Far too much for Tarasenko! Seguin for Tarasenko straight up!

30 Jan 2019 09:32:14
There is nothi gj. The package worth tarasenko.

26 Jan 2019 05:42:19
I know Tampa Bay’s playing really well, but, looking ahead to next summer:

Tampa Bay Lightning Trade:
Alex Killorn [LW - 4.5 Million x 5 Years]
Ryan Callahan [RW - 5.9 Million x 2 Years]
Dennis Yan [LW - 0.7 Million x 2 Years]
2020 3rd Round Draft Selection

Dallas Stars Trade:
Jason Spezza [C - 7.5 Million x 1 Year]
Valeri Nichushkin [RW - 2.9 Million x 2 Years]

Basically, Tampa needs the cap relief after this season for Point and after next for Vasy. Killorn isn’t a bad contract, but with the amount of large, long-term deals Tampa has, he’s just a surplus, and a team like Dallas could use a guy like him - defensively solid, 30-40 point guy, locked up. As well, Tampa gets lut of Callahan’s deal, which they would want to move by this summer. For the two, they receive two roster players in return, Spezza, whose contract ends at the end of the season, and Nuke, who could use a change of scenery, and could take Callahans spot. The cap works out about evenly for the upcoming season, but Dallas takes on the additional cap to compensate for the fact that they receive the best player in the deal.

Tampa Lineup:
Palat - Stamkos - Kucherov
Johnson - Point - Gourde
Spezza - Cirelli - Miller
Joseph - Paquette - Nichushkin

Dallas Lineup:
Benn - Seguin - Radulov
Killorn - Faksa - Janmark
Cogliano - Dickinson - Callahan
Gurianov - Hintz - Comeau.

26 Jan 2019 14:55:31
That’s a big no from Dallas it took an A level prospect to move Bolland and Killhorn and Callahan are debatably just as bad.

26 Jan 2019 20:28:36
See Dallas is going to take on additional cap than their giving and getting more term with the additional cap. that’s a hard no from Dallas. Neither Callahan or killorn make them more competitive this year or next so why take on the additional money/ term.

27 Jan 2019 05:10:39
It’s not good for either team. Tampa won’t look to move Cally till the summer right or wrong coaches want him for the playoff run. Also nether Cally nor Killorn will waive to Dallas. VB neither Cally or Killorn are as bad as Bolland. Cally because of term (1 more year) and Killorn is a market level deal not a steal but not really an overpay. I feel Yan is unlikely to make an impact at the NHL level he’s got one tool and it’s his shot. Doesn’t really fit in the bottom 6 and might not do enough for top 6. Boom or bust kinda guy, either a star or AHLer not sure it’s enough to move Cally.

16 Jan 2019 04:43:07
Edmonton trades: RNH

Dallas trades: Benn

What do you say?

16 Jan 2019 04:54:49
What do I say? That I hope this is a toll trade.

16 Jan 2019 05:29:22
If this doesn't work out montreal has a benn they could trade you for nuge.

10 Jan 2019 04:23:24
W. Nylander C

S. Jones D

N. Zaitsev D

R. Polak D

1st 2019
2nd 2020
3rd 2020
F. Gauthier C

S. Gostisbehere D
W. Simmonds RW

10 Jan 2019 05:51:55
The only one that isn't completely laughable is the zaitsev deal. i don't think clb trades jones for marner to be honest so they are for sure not going to trade him for nylander. that 3rd deal would probably get simmonds but not both guys.

10 Jan 2019 08:23:21
You can't be serious. Seth Jones for nylander straight up. Lol that's not even close.

The other trades are bad too. got to give to get. Jones would require marner or mathews.

10 Jan 2019 11:29:20
If there's a TOR player CBJ trade Jones straight up for, it's Matthews. Even then it's debatable whether either team would do it. Nylander for Jones is just straight comedy.

10 Jan 2019 13:20:39
I’d rather do

Tor: Nylander, Kadri, Kappanen, Gardiner, Liligren, Sandin And 1st 2019


Then Marner or Mathews for Jones.

10 Jan 2019 17:07:06
Nylander for Jones no. Polak for Zaitsev straight up, A big no for the Philly trade.

10 Jan 2019 22:21:09
Other than the Blackhawks trying to rebuild their dynasty teams, whens the last time you RECENTLY heard of a player going back to the same team they were traded from/ left via free agency?

Polak for Zaitsev and a pick? no.

01 Jan 2019 04:58:42
Accidentally pressed sent on the last part but add in
Philly: couturier, provorov, ghost

Carolina: aho, svechnikov, pesce and Slavin

Dallas, Seguin, heiskanen

Ottawa: Chabot white and tkachuk

Again would any of these hypothetical situations be possible for the oilers to rebuild and get so, entung for arguably the best player in the game.

01 Jan 2019 18:00:20
Huge no from Carolina and no from Ottawa. Provorov=Slavin. Aho>Couturier And Svechnikov And Pesce>>>Ghost

Seguin just isn’t a target Ottawa should go after and Chabot is looking like a Karlsson replacement who could very well be the best player in the deal.

30 Dec 2018 16:22:00
Mtl: Juulsen, Gallagher, 2rd2019, Ylonen, Fleury

Dallas: Seguin, Lindell

Dallas gets B+ prospect Ylonen,top 6 30 goal scorer Gallagher,21 year old RHD Noah Juulsen, Cale Fleury who's a solid defensive prospect and stock has rise for him big time since draft. Mtl gets a number #1 and a #4 LHD.

30 Dec 2018 21:52:42
I am so glad that the Dallas CEO went off on Seguin and Benn, completely switches focus to those guys on the trade boards.

30 Dec 2018 21:46:47
Oh no no no.

31 Dec 2018 06:25:27
This might get Seguin, don't think it's enough quality but defs not getting both Seguin and Lindell for that package.

03 Jan 2019 16:52:31
Really all that for Benn and Habs just beat them. Dallas can suffer.

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