09 Jan 2018 12:37:55
This is coming off of the Nurse/ Kapanen trade. Yup, I'm not harping on you, but you said you'd rather trade Klefbom than Nurse. And I see why because of his stats this year, they're pretty bad. However, I think Toronto could use a guy like Oscar, 100%. Still, he'll be worth a lot. Worth more than Nurse imo.

My Proposition:

Oscar Klefbom + Mark Fayne in exchange for Jake Gardiner + Kasperi Kapanen + Roman Polak + 2019 1st Round Draft Pick.

Now, for me, this is still underwhelming for Oscar Klefbom. I really do think he is a good NHL dman, from what I saw last year he was excellent. But if he really is playing bad, I would be down to do this. Edmonton gets a replacement dman, who is young, on a good contract, and is the offensive defensive Edmonton needs, considering most of theirs are DFD's. Kapanen can bring speed to the team, especially to one w. a lot of big bodies on the forward core. Could work well alongside Leon or Connor, and he has skill to play with them. Polak for Fayne is fair, Polak is the extra contract to lower contracts for Toronto, and Fayne is cap off the books for Edmonton. The 1st is probably 20-23ish, and it can be used to pick up a dman, or to trade away for other assets.

And Toronto gets a true shutdown dman. A real one that can help Travis Dermott grow, and allows Toronto to have two good pairings. We have many versions of Gardiner, we don't have a version of Klefbom.

Healthy Lineup (Toronto) :
Zach Hyman - Auston Matthews - William Nylander
James van Riemsdyk - Tyler Bozak - Mitch Marner
Patrick Marleau - Nazem Kadri - Connor Brown
Leo Komarov - Frederik Gauthier - Matt Martin

Ron Hainsey - Morgan Rielly
Travis Dermott - Oscar Klefbom
Nikita Zaitsev - Andreas Borgman

Healthy Lineup (Edmonton)
Patrick Maroon - Connor McDavid - Kasperi Kapanen
Milan Lucic - Leon Draisaitl - Jesse Puljujarvi
Jujhar Khaira - Ryan Nugent-Hopkins - Michael Cammalleri
Ryan Strome - Mark Letestu - Zach Kassian

Darnell Nurse - Jake Gardiner
Adam Larsson - Matt Benning
Kris Russell - Brandon Davidson.


1.) 09 Jan 2018
09 Jan 2018 14:30:07
Too much for Klefbom.


2.) 09 Jan 2018
09 Jan 2018 14:57:31
I like the base but i think the 1st is too much.
I think it would be nice if they went after Mike Green instead.


3.) 09 Jan 2018
09 Jan 2018 16:27:17
Way too much,


4.) 09 Jan 2018
09 Jan 2018 17:51:44
I said I would rather be open to trading Klefbom, in a package for a better RHD coming back. Not Gardiner and Kapanen. Say whatever you want to make them seem amazing. LHD Gardiner wouldn't be top pairing right side and Kapanen can't even crack your fourth line right now, I know we suck but he wouldn't be top line with us.

Why do you have Larsson on the left side? Gardiner on the top right. And no Sekera?
They aren't trading Klefbom for a downgrade on LD and a winger who can't crack your lineup to play top line with McDavid. Lol. It would be in a package for an improvement.


5.) 09 Jan 2018
09 Jan 2018 20:10:53
What's up with adding Fayne? Oilers have 8M in space and his 2.3M is in the minors. We aren't in a bind and including him in this doesn't sweeten it at all. The Leafs have 0 cap space according to cap friendly, and Klefbom makes a little more than Gardniner, and with Faynes, this deal can't even happen.
Klefbom is signed for 5 more seasons, Gardiner 1 more season. Why do the Oilers downgrade that position like that? Their lefties are Nurse, Russell and Sekera too. If they were to trade Klfebom it would be in a deal with a righie coming back and then the left side would probably be Nurse Russell/ Sekera. Not Gardiner on the top pair right side. Lol. The 1st is a nice piece for sure, But the Oilers want to improve NOW, not a few years down the line. You guys say Chiarelli is a terrible GM, We if he's moving Klefbom it's to improve the team now not for a 1st for a piece down the line.


6.) 09 Jan 2018
09 Jan 2018 20:30:36
Actually, we have cap space. Horton can go onto LTIR and Lupul. Frees up nearly 5.0 million. They onky have Lupul on there now, add Horton and you get more.


7.) 09 Jan 2018
09 Jan 2018 23:28:56
Kapanen only can't crack our lineup because of his waiver status. If he had waivers, he'd be playing second line in place of Komarov, and Moore/ Gauthier would be gone. His waiver status keeps him in the Marlies. And i'm sorry i don't know everyones handedness, i don't think that should be where you are basing your arguement. tell me honestly, does Kapanen not make Edmontons top 6, if Drais plays center? Cause who is better on the wing? Lucic, who can't keep up w McDavid, and Pul. Kappy would be top 6 in toronto if not for his waivrrs and for sure w edmonton. and what would you consider a better package for klefbom? i'm not being sarcastoc, i genuinelly wanna know. Is it something similar to this, but with different players? is it an offensive dman in return of similar value to klef? is it a top notch forward? cause you don't post a lot, but your an oilers fan and know your team better than i do, but ik your team is loaded with dmen who are the ideal playrrs who Toronto could use. such as Klef, larsson, nurse, benning, russell.


8.) 10 Jan 2018
10 Jan 2018 05:36:13
I disagree Topshelf top 2 centers are Kadri and Mathews
Top 2 LW are Marleau and JVR 2 Top 2 RW Nylander And Marner.