11 Jul 2018 21:19:21
Only because it would be cool to have 2 nylanders together plus toronto has to make a move or 2 before they lose one of the other 3 of the big 4 to free agency due to no cap space

Tor : Gardiner, brown

Buf : a. Nylander

Marleau Tavares marner
Nylander Matthew's nylander
Hyman karri martin.

1.) 11 Jul 2018
11 Jul 2018 21:55:54
The Leafs are not going to lose one of the big 4 due to cap space. The only potential cap casualty will be Marleau, and that is not a certainty.

I wouldn't expect someone with your mental capacity to be able to handle the math, but there's this program called microsoft excel that might help you develop an informed opinion instead of spewing your usual nonsense.

Also, your lines are as ignorant as your trade proposals and Martin does not play for the Leafs anymore. You're really owning that dunce cap.

2.) 11 Jul 2018
11 Jul 2018 22:10:51
Just stop Rambo. They’re not losing anyone, anytime soon. Toronto doesn’t need another forward and you don’t make trades because it’s cool.

3.) 11 Jul 2018
11 Jul 2018 22:37:55
Even if they sign Nylander, Mathews and Marner for 10 mil each they’d still have cap space LOL obviously they’re not going to sign for 10 mil so the leafs are good.

Value wise I would probably give a 3rd from the leafs Nylander has proved nothing he can't even get playing time in the AHL on an infieror team let alone get time on the Calder cup winning marlies and especially not the leafs.

4.) 11 Jul 2018
11 Jul 2018 23:18:32
And leafs Defense is their weaker point, offense is stacked with skill. So let’s trade our 2nd best defenseman and a penalty killing/ checking forward with 20 and 14 goals the last 2 years for a skilled forward who hasn’t made good strides since being drafted lol that’s Rambo Logic at its best. Just do us a favour and stick to solving Calgary’s goalie problem of 36 year old Mike Smith with 37 year old Craig Anderson lol

Rambo is like those late night infomercials selling blankets with sleeves. He solves problems you didn’t know you even had haha.

5.) 11 Jul 2018
11 Jul 2018 23:37:56
I'm pretty sure buffalo mixes that.

6.) 12 Jul 2018
12 Jul 2018 00:25:00
Did anyone notice he put Martin in the lineup ( NYI ) and Left Kappanen out?

7.) 12 Jul 2018
12 Jul 2018 03:43:26
Yeah ok. because 25 million free space is more than enough to get nylander ar 7 to 8 million marner at 8 to 9 million and Matthew's at 10 to 11 million and still have extra cap to sign the rest of the team. Makes total sense my math totally sucks that totally makes 10 million used not 25 to 28 million used right guys? Get real and do the math yourself and stop making ridiculous comments cap doesn't always go up either it goes down too and even if it goes up it's not by more than 2 to 3 million tops.

8.) 12 Jul 2018
12 Jul 2018 11:23:04
Gardiner and Brown for Karlsson. The leafs take on more salary just to prove Rambo wrong. Ottawa gets the better defenseman in the deal and a top 6 sniper. Maybe NY will give you Martin and you can slot him alongside Stone.

9.) 12 Jul 2018
12 Jul 2018 11:36:34
Lmao, you kinda explainedit to yourself Rambo.

We know that the Leafs will be pressed against the cap. We know Marner/ Nylander/ Matthews combined will be about 23 million. That remaining 3ish millioj goes into filling holes (bottom 6 d, fourth line, etc) . Thatll be for year 2019/ 20. Afer that, Marleaus offf the books and we gain more cap space. And even if we did need cap space, what good does trading for Alex Nylander do?

10.) 12 Jul 2018
12 Jul 2018 12:41:32
Since I am a firm believer in supporting kids with special needs, I'll take the time out of my morning to once again educate you Rambo.

Marner and Matthews are still on entry level contracts this season.

Nylander needs to be extended, but it will not be for "7 to 8 million" as you so daftly put. Give your head a shake and look and comparables. Pastrnak (same draft year, better player) was extended at $6.7 million. Nylander is not going to make a million more per year than him.

The Leafs have zero cap issues heading into this year. Get that through your thick skull. They have over $20 million in space (once you account for Horton on LTIR) with only Nylander to extend and a few Marlies/ cheap UFA signings to plug bottom end roster spots. When all is said and done they will have around $5 mln extra space to play with at the trade deadline.

The 2019-2020 season is when things could get tighter, depending on where the cap shakes out. For 2018-2019 it is currently projected to be $79.5 million (upper limit) . It may not increase much from that in 2019-2020, but it is certainly not going to decrease, especially in light of further expansion eventually coming (Seattle) .

Here's who the Leafs have signed already for 2019-2020 (not including Horton who will be on LTIR) :

Tavares (11 mln)
Marleau (6.25 mln)
Kadri (4.3 mln)
Hyman (2.25 mln)
Brown (2.1 mln)
Rielly (5 mln)
Zaitsev (4.5 mln)
Dermott (0.863 mln)
Andersen (5 mln)
Kessel buyout (1.2 mln)

That's ~$42.5 mln.

Add (projected signings) :
Nylander (6.5 mln)
Matthews (11 mln)
Marner (8 mln)
Kapanen (2.1 mln)
Johnsson (2.1 mln)
Gauthier (0.675 mln)
Grundstrom (0.925 mln)
Marchment (0.7675 mln)
Leivo (1.0 mln)
Liljegren (0.894 mln)
Rosen (1.1 mln)
Borgman (1.1 mln)
Ozhiganov (1.1 mln)
Sparks (1.0 mln)

That's ~$38.3 mln, for a total of ~$80.8 mln for a full 23 man roster, not much higher than the current projected limit for 2018-2019. If the cap goes up by a few million, the Leafs may not have to do anything. Worst case scenario, Marleau (who will be owed only ~$4 mln in actual salary after his bonus is paid on July 1st) could be traded to a team looking to get to the cap floor.

The Leafs will have options and are not in a cap bind such that one of the big four will have to be traded. Dubas has said this. Maybe Nylander is traded for help on the back end, but that will be for a similar caliber player on Defense, making a similar amount of money. Maybe if you did not still have guys like Martin who don't even play for the Leafs in your lineup you could see this.

School's out kiddo.

11.) 12 Jul 2018
12 Jul 2018 14:04:01
You missed gardine did you not?

12.) 12 Jul 2018
12 Jul 2018 14:20:41
Rambo, you spend a lot of time trying to poke holes in the leafs plan and recent/ future success for a guy who’s team in the last year:
-had owner threaten to move the team
-lost a Duchene trade
-ignored the harassment of your superstars family
-had their assistant GM arrested for molestiing a young man at the draft combine
-has wives taking out restraining orders against each other
-lost hoffman trade BAD
-had best player/ captain say publicly he’s done playing for the organization
-pending lawsuit against Ceci
-low-balled next best player (Stone) and he’s in arbitration, a year away from UFA
-drafted 4th overall this year, team is far worse next year and Avs own your pick


Maybe you should focus more on the senators, because leafs Owners, management, coaching and players seem to be in pretty good shape lol.

13.) 12 Jul 2018
12 Jul 2018 14:27:23
@Alpaca: Gardiner's contract is up this year, and I suspect he will want more than the Leafs are willing to pay him (I'm sure he could get more on the UFA market), so I did not include him on their 2019-2020 roster.

14.) 12 Jul 2018
12 Jul 2018 21:46:19
I love it. Rambo and half the internet trying to turn signing Tavares into a bad thing. All of a sudden the leafs are going to have to dismantle the plan and lose Nylander, maybe Marner as well. Did they improve their defense, no. Did they bring in an absolute stud #1 center, yes. Get over it Rambo and anyone else who can’t handle the progress a team that struggled for years is making. If ONE of the young guns are traded, it will be for a defenseman like others have said. If there is cap issues, worst case scenario is trading Nylander for a 3-4 million dollar defenseman and a high draft pick. They’d save a couple million (assuming Nylander gets at least 6), get a 3-4 d man and re stock the cupboards.

15.) 13 Jul 2018
13 Jul 2018 00:06:29
I'll have the popcorn ready next July when toronto is trying to choose which star to match an offer sheet on and which one to let go to to cap restraints.

16.) 13 Jul 2018
13 Jul 2018 01:05:16
rambo, seriously do you think marner and matthew get to rfa without extensions, even if they did, both of them, do you seriously think the leafs wouldn't laugh at getting 4 first round picks for the amount of money that offer sheet would need to be for it to make the leafs not able to match due to "cap restraints"?

you are the new montrealfinest. you are the GOAT.

17.) 13 Jul 2018
13 Jul 2018 02:25:06
Cool. When neither of those things happen hopefully we will not have lost count of everything else you have been wrong about. it's hard to keep track of.

Should the Leafs be worried about an offer sheet for Matt Martin? Asking for a friend.

18.) 13 Jul 2018
13 Jul 2018 06:41:02
Have the popcorn with the peanuts you got for Hoffman.

19.) 13 Jul 2018
13 Jul 2018 11:31:22
Peanuts for brains** @Leafs17.

20.) 13 Jul 2018
13 Jul 2018 11:54:43
This guy makes FairTrade4all sound completely rational. I don’t think we’ve heard from him since the Eberle trade. There’s a few decent Oiler fans on here, but he was special. Kind of like Rambo.

21.) 13 Jul 2018
13 Jul 2018 12:56:47
It don't matter how many 1sts they get if they don't match if the team that lands one of them is a playoff contender. 1 out of 4 might make a small difference in that case if they're lucky. plus they only get 4 if the offer sheet is 10 mln +.

22.) 13 Jul 2018
13 Jul 2018 14:32:12
If the offer sheet is less the 10+ million the Leafs will have the cap space!

23.) 13 Jul 2018
13 Jul 2018 15:05:53
Well yeah, and if it was under $10 mill for an offer sheet on Matthews, the leafs would match it and celebrate because that’s cheaper than he will sign here for lol you make zero sense.

And if it’s over $10 mill for marner, they take the 4 1st rounders and pack marners bags for him. If it’s between $8-10 mill we would get 2 1sts, a 2nd and a 3rd. Then would have to see where those picks would be (which team it is) and make a decision.

This management has planned for this. They didn’t go from dead last to a serious contender in 30 months by accident lol just keep making a fool of yourself, it’s entertaining seeing you so jealous that your team is in the toilet on and off the ice and the rest of the league is picking on them like vultures haha.