12 Jul 2018 11:56:59
Wondering if this makes sense for both teams.
Now I’m not familiar with Columbus’ Cap so maybe this won’t be able to work, but anyways I wanted to go off positional needs:

Oil: Nuge + Klefbom + 4th

Jackets: Panarin + Murray

Oilers get top end right hand shot winger to play with Mcdavid and a downgrade on defense.
Blue jackets get their potential top line center (or 2nd line if they leave Dubois 1st) who can also play wing now. Get an upgrade on defense.

1.) 12 Jul 2018
12 Jul 2018 13:25:43
oilers need to improve their defense, why would they downgrade?

2.) 12 Jul 2018
12 Jul 2018 13:34:29
Paniran is way better then Nuge. IMO Murray is better then Klefbom and Regardless that’d be a redundant swap for Columbus and a 4th. no way Columbus touches that. Yes Paniran is a pending UFA but Nuge won’t be the piece he’s traded for and on top of that you want Murray? Take out Murray and Klefbom and it’s a fairer trade.

3.) 12 Jul 2018
12 Jul 2018 14:01:53
I think klefbom is an upgrade on murray, but not nearly enough to offset panarin to RNH. A 4th just doesn’t cut it. Make the 4th a 1st or keep it as the 4th and add in a good prospect. But don’t see CBJ taking this as it is. There would be better offers for sure.

4.) 12 Jul 2018
12 Jul 2018 14:33:13
Really? I don’t see the upgrade there Jim at almost every world event Murray looks like a stud maybe he needs a change of scenery I’d give Gardiner for him.

5.) 12 Jul 2018
12 Jul 2018 14:51:45
I’d call them pretty even, but give klefbom the edge in my opinion. Wouldn’t know all the numbers to argue against someone who says the opposite though. Regardless, no matter which way you too the scales on the klefbom/ murray part, it doesn’t come close to offsetting panarin for nuge.

6.) 12 Jul 2018
12 Jul 2018 16:36:34
Edm wouldn't give up that for one year of panarin , would be great to see with McDavid but if he doesn't wanna stay in Columbus, why would he wanna sign in EDM?

7.) 12 Jul 2018
12 Jul 2018 16:54:43
I like it but do think the 4th would have to be at least a 2nd or a 4th and a 3rd yo gwg the ball rolling.

And don't mind vbbvbb, he has no idea how to just talent or trade value. klefbom > Murray anyday though I do agree that panarin is better than nuge and would make a great side piece for McDavid lol.

8.) 12 Jul 2018
12 Jul 2018 18:48:27
Yah don’t mind the guy who thinks Murray>Klefbom but mind the guy who believes Hoffman>5th overall? You’re dilusional in my opinion i like Murray more then Klefbom they’re close in value but Murray’s stats are deiciving he’s better then the stats show offensively and he’s better then Klefbom defensively. Klefbom is probably better offensively but he’s also the guy in Edmonton where as Murray is on the 3rd pairing in Columbus. ( the role the bottom 4 lines )

9.) 13 Jul 2018
13 Jul 2018 00:00:04
I believe I said Hoffman is = to a top 5 to 10 pic, not greater than a top 5, and I still stand by that as those deals were absolute jokes. perhaps school wasn't kind enough to teach you how to read huh vbbvbb?

Come to think of it your handle is vbbvbb, guess you can't pronounce a real name either. what is a vbbvbb anyway a vroom big bad vroom badda bing? Lmfao.

10.) 13 Jul 2018
13 Jul 2018 01:47:08
Rambone, You can't stand by something that's been proven completely wrong and just call it a joke and still think you're right and we're wrong. That's not how that works.

11.) 13 Jul 2018
13 Jul 2018 11:05:49
Rambo prefers to live in his delusional fantasy world where his poorly thought out and biased proposals represent fair value, and his mom's basement is actually a 3,000 sq. ft. luxury penthouse.

12.) 13 Jul 2018
13 Jul 2018 11:30:33
‘Those deals were complete jokes’

Well, they were made, and the entirety of this site was close i'm evaluation of Hoff than you were.

13.) 13 Jul 2018
13 Jul 2018 13:00:03
All I’m going to say here is Murray isn’t that close to Klefbom. Klefbom is for sure an upgrade when he’s healthy.

14.) 13 Jul 2018
13 Jul 2018 13:16:22
Murray is a third pairing dman (or used as one) and Klef a 2/ 3 dman. not sure how they're close. I don't think they have close to the same value.

15.) 13 Jul 2018
13 Jul 2018 13:28:47
I’m sure hoffman wasn’t exclusively shopped to San Jose. Dorian would have called just about everyone about hoffman and that’s what he got. I’d say that’s the best way to determine true value. Half the league who had a need for a scoring winger determined he wasn’t worth more than that. That’s what I will take as fair value over what one guy who also thinks Craig Anderson is the answer to other teams goalie problems believes lol and believes they won the Duchene trade, and believes they have all the leverage with Karlsson lol.

16.) 13 Jul 2018
13 Jul 2018 15:44:42
@Rambone they may be the goofiest thing I’ve ever read.

17.) 13 Jul 2018
13 Jul 2018 22:29:44
It wasn't proven wrong yup. put that situation a trade in the hands of a competant gm instead of goofball Dorian and I guarentee a better trade is made. if brian Murray were still around for instance. the guy may not have made many trades but the ones he did make were always respectable at the time of the trades.

He turned rundblad into turris

He turned a 2nd into bishop then into a 4yh plus conacher who at the time was looking like he could be a future stud in the league

He also move the unmovable spezza contract and actually got what was a decent haul for it as a draft pick, a solid prospect in paul at the time and a guy in chiasson who along with nuchishkin in dallas were breaking out nicely at the time, not bad for a 1 dimensional 8 million contract with lots of term left

I could keep going but you should get the point by now. and actually players like chiason and conacher are exactly why players like point and sergachev aren't as highly valued as you may think they are and also why a guy like Karlsson is more than enough to land both plus a 1st. you can't predict that they will find a season like that again but you can with Karlsson as he's been high level for years now.

18.) 14 Jul 2018
14 Jul 2018 11:38:44
Did you seriously just cite Chiason and Concacher as a comparable for Point and Servachev?

You're spare parts bud.