07 Aug 2018 13:21:44
Toronto Trades
Connor Brown
Carrick
Sparks
1st Round Pick 2019

Winnipeg Trades
Trouba

Thoughts ?


1.) 07 Aug 2018
07 Aug 2018 14:57:12
There is nothing in that offer that the Jets need at all. They wouldn't consider that deal in the slightest.


2.) 07 Aug 2018
07 Aug 2018 15:04:51
The Jets don't need quantity as they have players that are better than the ones being offered in this trade. All three players offered would be UFA in 2 years, would not be an upgrade in what the Jets have on their 3rd or 4th lines. Comrie is younger and has more upside in goal than Sparks. The 1st would be nice but would be in the mid 20's and a player drafted then is no guarantee that they will be a top end player. The Jets would need a top line player, or a can't miss A prospects plus draft choices back for Trouba who would be the Leafs top pairing RHD.


3.) 07 Aug 2018
07 Aug 2018 15:49:16
Carrick is a fringe RHD. Brown is the best piece there as he could be a good depth guy with some secondary offense and sparks has no chance to take hellbyucks job and they have plenty of G depth behind him with brossoit, comrie, is hutch still there?!

Jets want atleast one REALLy good young piece coming back. It’s just not there.


4.) 07 Aug 2018
07 Aug 2018 15:55:35
Why all leafs trades involve the same few players? Leafs fans see them as extras that fans give away for really good players for some reason.


5.) 07 Aug 2018
07 Aug 2018 16:36:35
I’d rather take that deal then pay Trouba 8 million.


6.) 07 Aug 2018
07 Aug 2018 19:12:11
Islandjet
To start with all 3 of
Brown, Carrick, and Sparks will be RFAs not UFAs in 2yrs so you are wrong there.
Sparks won the equivalent of the Vezina in the AHL so he is far better than Comrie.
Carrick is a better suited number 3 RHanded Defenceman than Trouba is as the Jets are deep with Byfuglien and Myers ahead of Trouba.
Yes the Jets have great talent but the bottom 6 needs some depth.
Tanev, Copp, and Brown is a great 4th line for any Team and it only makes the Jets better in the end with this Trade.
Trouba is what the Leafs need to notch Hainsey down to make them solid on Defence.
As for the probable late 1st Round Pick many late 1st Round Picks have become star players so any 1st Round Pick means something.
Or maybe the Jets use that Pick to get the Center they need at some point to replace the departure of Stastny.
So to say the Jets won't bite with the Trouba contract problems etc doesn't wash as I see a fit for both Teams.


7.) 07 Aug 2018
07 Aug 2018 21:34:16
The Jets wouldn’t take that deal whatsoever. Instead they need a top end prospect in return. My thoughts are proposing this:

WPG: Trouba
TOR: 1st Round Pick 2019, 2nd Round Pick 2020, Liljegren.


8.) 07 Aug 2018
07 Aug 2018 21:48:16
Pinball,
From your own description of the trade, you're offering a bunch of depth pieces to the Jets.

Brown is a winger and the Jets have wingers galore, so no need for Brown. Goalies don't have much value at all. Carrick is a bottom pairing defenseman who may be able to play top 4 someday and a late first.

Nobody trades a young, top pairing RHD to get bottom 6 and bottom pairing depth. You would need to add a much more valuable piece.

So, the only fit here is for Toronto as there is absolutely no fit for Winnipeg.


9.) 07 Aug 2018
07 Aug 2018 22:16:53
AJ01,
You're on the right track. However, the Jets wouldn't take an all futures trade. They would need a good, center or defenseman roster player coming back as well.


10.) 08 Aug 2018
08 Aug 2018 01:56:18
Memarcusjoe I would prefer to get Lindgren, a 1st Round Pick 2019 and another mid range peice however I don’t see anyone I personally like. Maybe Gauthier as a centre but that’s it.


11.) 08 Aug 2018
08 Aug 2018 01:57:09
So I’ll revise my trade

WPG: Trouba
TOR: Liljegren, Gauthier, 1st Round Pick 2019.


12.) 08 Aug 2018
08 Aug 2018 05:37:06
AJ01,
That's why I think we're poor trading partners with Toronto. Their best available pieces all play positions the Jets don't need.

As for your Gauthier proposal, that would be selling really low on Trouba. 29 other teams would beat that offer easily.


13.) 08 Aug 2018
08 Aug 2018 06:28:13
29 teams would out bid that offer 2 1st round picks and 2nd? . you think Carolina is going to pay more then that for another dman? You think Pittsburgh, Washington, Calargry or Nashville is going to destroy there cap space to take on another dman that they don’t need? Or you think teams like Detroit, Chicago, Montreal, Ottawa and New Jersey have the Assets to even make that type of offer. I bet many other teams wouldn’t be interested in him either.

@Memarcusjoe

Reread this nonsense before you post next time.


14.) 08 Aug 2018
08 Aug 2018 14:35:10
Vbbb I really believe that there would be at least a dozen teams that would want Trouba and many of them have the cap space to pay him over $6 mil per. Detroit, Philly, Boston, NYI and Vegas have interest in trading for Trouba. I believe that Chevy will only trade him if they can't get a long term deal done before next season. This may be hastened if Poolman steps up and plays as he has done in the past. I agree with Memarcusjoe that the Leafs and Jets aren't good trading partners as what the Jets would want for Trouba the Leafs wouldn't trade.


15.) 08 Aug 2018
08 Aug 2018 14:57:45
Vbbb,
We've all seen over the last few days how terrible you are at evaluating players by the amount of disagrees you get on your posts.

Young, top pairing RHD don't come on the market every day. There would be a bidding war for him.

Watch some hockey and try to learn a little bit about it before you post next time.


16.) 08 Aug 2018
08 Aug 2018 22:52:05
Not that I agree with vbb’s Joe but you’re not new to this site, the disagrees mean absolutely nothing.


17.) 08 Aug 2018
08 Aug 2018 23:45:22
Leafs17,
True. But he's also been ripped pretty good on his Leaf valuations by fellow Leaf fans the last few days. I guess what I'm getting at is that he is terrible at player values and bases his trade values on who he likes. If he likes the player or they are a shiny new toy, they are worth a ton, if he doesn't like them, they are almost worthless. He always has far too much bias in his evaluations to be taken seriously. So, he is the last guy to trust for objective trade valuation.


18.) 09 Aug 2018
09 Aug 2018 04:25:43
I’m the one ripping him Joe. I’ve seen way too many years of the leafs being a bubble team or bottom feeder. I’m excited about their team now but you won’t here me saying much unless it’s in defense of a comment. I’ve been brought down to earth too many times thinking they had a real team. I still don’t think they’re contenders without a stud d man. I think Tampa, Boston and even Buffalo will have something to say about the leafs getting out of the first round again.


19.) 09 Aug 2018
09 Aug 2018 06:12:21
I hear ya Leafs17. It was nice having a discussion with someone on this site that didn't turn into a bunch of childish ranting. It doesn't happen very often here.