13 Aug 2018 14:05:19
Columbus Trades
Panarin

Toronto Trades
Connor Brown
Rasanen (KHL)
Joshua (Big-10)
1st Round Pick 2019
1st Round Pick 2020*

*Columbus only gets that Pick if Panarin resigns with the Leafs.

Without Panarin the Jackets are actually still pretty good upfront, with these projected lines.

Jenner-Dubois-Atkinson
Foligno-Wennberg-Bjorkstrand
Milano-Nash-Brown
Duclair-Dubinsky-Anderson

If Columbus waits it out until the Deadline they won't get as much in a Trade.
Leafs are that close to truly being a Team that's almost unbeatable adding Panarin puts them there.

Thoughts ?

1.) 13 Aug 2018
13 Aug 2018 15:07:19
Columbus is going to want more quality back. I feel like every trade you’ve ever posted is just quantity for quality. You have to give up something big to get something big, which Panarin is.

2.) 13 Aug 2018
13 Aug 2018 16:06:38
even is clb accepts, which they wouldnt. the leafs can't afford to resign pana. god your clueless.

3.) 13 Aug 2018
13 Aug 2018 16:46:01
If Columbus plays that game of wanting more they will get nothing, Skinner didn't even get Carolina a 1st Round Pick, Islanders played that game with Tavares and look what happened.
Connor Brown is an NHL Player a decent 2 way winger that's only 24yrs old, Rasanen and Joshua are Prospects that just might be NHL Players and any Team wants 1st Round Picks.
Panarin is only for this year and why not try and win this year, with Grundstrom and Engvall probably ready next year there are more coming including Bracco etc.
Columbus will Trade Panarin because of what happened with Tavares, if they try and wait out to get more than next July they will watch him walk and get nothing just like what happened with the Islanders, most on here truly believe Columbus has the upper hand they don't as every Team knows the reality that Columbus is not in a good position with Panarin.

4.) 13 Aug 2018
13 Aug 2018 17:09:30
Not sure what's worse, your proposal or your justification. Columbus, if they trade Panarin are going to want players for present. Not futures. The are a vary competitive club that has serious playoff hopes.

5.) 13 Aug 2018
13 Aug 2018 17:20:14
For this offer, Columbus would be better off just keeping Panarin and letting him walk for nothing at the end of the year if they don't want to trade him at the deadline.

Panarin will provide more value to the Jackets this year than your offer likely ever will.

6.) 13 Aug 2018
13 Aug 2018 17:56:36
Quit worrying about Panarin, and try to figure out how to strengthen your D. if you need forwards, which ya dont. think gritty. Ya have enough finesse.

7.) 13 Aug 2018
13 Aug 2018 18:49:37
As for the Defense on the Leafs I believe no trade has happened because they expect Liljegren to be on the Leafs this Season.
Babcock loves bringing in Young Players to teach them early
projected Defence Pairings.

Rielly-Hainsey
Gardiner-Zaitsev
Dermott-Liljegren/ Carrick

Liljegren and Carrick will share playing time next Season so the Season after when Hainsey isn't resigned the Right Side looks pretty strong with
Liljegren
Zaitsev
Carrick

Gardiner probably replaced by Borgman/ Rosen on the Left Side when Gardiner walks probably to Minnesota his hometown after this Season.
So yes I still believe that a Panarin type player would be a smart move for this year.
My Proposed Lineup if that Trade where to happen.

Johnsson-Tavares-Nylander
Panarin-Matthews-Hyman
Marleau-Kadri-Marner
Ennis-PLindholm-Kapanen

Does everyone now see how Panarin does fit in over Connor Brown?
As for not being Gritty enough the only player on the Caps you would call grit was Wilson and on Tampa Bay the best record last year in the NHL Stamkos had the most penalty mins.

8.) 13 Aug 2018
13 Aug 2018 18:50:31
Pinball there’s not a chance on earth you could convince anyone that this is a good trade for Columbus lol.

9.) 13 Aug 2018
13 Aug 2018 21:43:43
“Almost unbeatable”, that’s priceless. The “right side looks pretty strong with Liljegren, Zaitsev, Carrick. ” Please go back into hiding. You bring the rest of us down with your Rambo like garbage.

10.) 13 Aug 2018
13 Aug 2018 21:50:49
Pinball. I'm not even saying ya need Grit. I don't beleive ya need any forwards, I beleive you have the 2nd best group next to Winnipeg. but, maybe a Gritty Veteran I anything, a depth guy maybe with some leadership. that's all. but ya don't need Panarin. sure ya want him. all teams would .
So. try and figure how Leafs could get a strong decent top 4 Dman. that's what this team needs.

11.) 13 Aug 2018
13 Aug 2018 22:00:48
Wow that’s a ugly defense! Better home that offense scores 5 a game.

12.) 13 Aug 2018
13 Aug 2018 22:01:44
I feel like Columbus will just use him for a playoff run then he’ll sign in like Florida or New Jersey ( a big market team with cap space ) .

13.) 14 Aug 2018
13 Aug 2018 23:38:16
If you are a playoff team which Columbus is you aren’t loosing him for nothing you’re just not trading him for other assets. He is as valuable to the team in the playoffs or even more if they feel like they have a serious shot then whatever they get back in a trade.

14.) 14 Aug 2018
14 Aug 2018 04:06:48
Ouf I don’t know if pinball is Hoffman for 5th overall or Ceci for 11th and 12th overall bad.

15.) 15 Aug 2018
15 Aug 2018 12:15:35
I was somewhat on board with your explanation until you said ‘unbeatable’ lol it’s a 31 team league. No one is unbeatable. Playoffs, anything can happen and even regular season, 50+ wins is considered a good season and that still means you lost 32 times.

16.) 15 Aug 2018
15 Aug 2018 12:34:14
I watched liljegren a lot last year. He looked great at times and very raw at others which is expected for a 19 year old playing pro hockey in North America for the first time. I would be very shocked if he’s on the leafs this year. Babcock liked having young guys in big roles 2 years ago when the expectations were extremely low. They’re expected to win now. He’s not going to have liljegren costing them games, and if he does make the team, his partner is not going to be dermott with his like 30 NHL games.

17.) 12 Sep 2018
11 Sep 2018 23:05:26
Ok can I do something
For the leafs to get Panarin:
Columbus gets
Gardiner
Kapanen
Leafs 2019 1st
Rasanen

You can argue a guy like Gardiner won’t help and Columbus already has Murray, but honestly with the injuries Murray has sustained and all the games he has missed, you would kind of think The Jackets would have a backup plan, at least for a year to help Murray get back on track.
As two-way Defensman who had a 52 point season, a plus 9 average and who is a pending FA, Gardiner fits that description.
It may not be ideal, but if the Jackets can’t have solid offence going into the playoffs, they may as well have solid defence and Goaltending so they can win with only 2 or 3 goals per game.