14 Aug 2018 00:12:45
Columbus Trades
Panarin
3rd Round Pick 2019

Toronto Trades
Gardiner
Connor Brown
1st Round Pick 2019

Thoughts ?


1.) 14 Aug 2018
14 Aug 2018 02:38:38
Columbus doesn't want or need Gardiner. It weakens the trade by including Gardiner.

They will want a Kapanen or Johnsson type prospect +.


2.) 14 Aug 2018
14 Aug 2018 02:46:28
Let it go Pinball. Try and get Muzzin ect.


3.) 14 Aug 2018
14 Aug 2018 05:20:17
I kinda disagree Columbus needs another puck mover on defence. I also think Gardiner gets a bad rap. He has warts in his game but he can advance the puck.


4.) 14 Aug 2018
14 Aug 2018 12:57:17
I have gotten it's not enough for Panarin etc, so I added Gardiner and took out Rasanen and Joshua and still mostly get not good enough.
If Columbus is in a win now attitude how is this proposal not in this Trade, Gardiner got 52 points in 82 games last year which is a Top pairing defence with Seth Jones, Werenski and Ryan Murray drop down to give the Jackets a Top Defense in the NHL, Connor Brown isn't Panarin but is still a very good 2 way winger that fits in with what the Jackets have now, and swapping a 1st Rounder for a 3rd Rounder should be enough, yes the Leafs will have to go out and get a Faulk or Spurgeon but that's easier right now than getting a difference maker in Panarin.


5.) 14 Aug 2018
14 Aug 2018 13:48:02
Pinball It's not always about value but needs Toronto doesn't need Panarin as of rn that is the big issue (at least IMO )
don't get me wrong he is a great player but Toronto has him in spades practically what toronto needs is rather vets that can help out in depth FWD roles or top-4 D.


6.) 15 Aug 2018
15 Aug 2018 17:35:47
The only defenceman better than gardiner right now is Jones (one of the best in the league), werenski is going to better than gardiner i'm sure but you can't say that columbus can't use a 50 pt puck moving dman. having werenski+jones on the first line with gardiner+murray/ savard on the 2nd pair is an amazing top 4.
Connor brown makes almost ever top 9 in the league and is a really good two way player. and then there's the most likely late 1st. The team doesn't get much worse and gains a 1st

Thats a decent return for a pending ufa. ugh I don't like defending pinball.


7.) 16 Aug 2018
16 Aug 2018 00:35:46
If Gardiner is a 50 point D man then Werenski is a 47 point D. Columbus doesn’t need Gardiner, yeah he’d be nice to have but I don’t think Columbus is desperate enough yet to have him as the main piece for Panarin. Werenski and Murray as there top 4 left D is solid they don’t need Gardiner or Murray playing 3rd pair.