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18 Nov 2017 15:28:17
Theoretical Habs trades for major rebuild:
Habs trade
Carey Price (50% retained)

Ducks trade
Sami Vatanen
John Gibson
Sam Steel
Max Jones
2018 1st
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Habs trade
Max Pacioretty

Blues trade
Ivan Barbashev
Vince Dunn
2018 1st
2019 2nd
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Habs trade
Alex Galchenyuk

Kings trade
Adrian Kempe
2018 1st
2018 2nd
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Habs trade
Shea Weber (50% retained)

Islanders trade
Jordan Eberle
2018 2nd
2018 3rd
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Habs trade
Tomas Plekanec

Flames trade
2018 2nd
2018 3rd

18 Nov 2017 16:21:52
Nice. The daily Price proposal for Saturday.

These are hilarious. Some of the worst ice ever seen.

18 Nov 2017 18:00:24
woah. what? how badly do u over value these habs players.

18 Nov 2017 18:09:19
Wow, you have officially taken the title of most delusional has fan of alltime.
Let's break this down very easily.

Prices stock is at all time low. He is injured, and next year his 10+mil contract kicks in. With that said let's break down trades.

Vatanen John gibson > price
I get that you have 50% retained but that's not going to happen. So to throw in the rest of the picks and prospets is just crazy

Patches is hood player but he is essentially a rental. On top of that Dunn as a rookie is performing very well he is projecting to be top 4 olhd. Those are just not traded. On top of all that you want barbashev middle 6 center a first round pick the blues do not have and a 2nd.
Your high my friend.

Kings need their picks more than a player that isn't even plating center or top 6 mins. Galchenyuk has been a dissapointment. Maybe worth a first but not much more unless he turns it around

Eberle has 14pts in 18 games. If nyi has any chance of resigning taveres they have to provide him with support. Besides at this point you have 6 years of 10 million in dead cap you retained in two trades.

Plek sucks nothing to see here.

18 Nov 2017 18:14:54
Holey, that Price trade is god awful for Anaheim.

Same with the STL one for STL.

This ain't a videp game. There ain't 'NHL18 TRADE VALUES'. You ain't getting that much for Patches or Price, or even plekanec for that matter.

18 Nov 2017 19:26:43
I didn’t even bother reading all of it because of how brutal the first trade was, that was pathetic.

18 Nov 2017 20:55:07
The Weber trade is hilarious.

18 Nov 2017 23:57:10
All heavely favour habs besides the Weber one. Weber 50% retained is worth a lot.

20 Nov 2017 16:32:12
Yikes. Ducks might as well throw Rakell, Getz and Perry in there. But to make it fair, have the Habs throw in a 5th rounder and make it 60% retained, then you got yourself a deal!

21 Nov 2017 11:52:11
Why would Calgary make that trade? Not to mention they don't have a second round pick.

19 Oct 2017 22:29:44
To ottawa : doughty, Duchene

To Los Angeles: turris, chlapic, Phaneuf, dzingle, barrie

To colorado : ceci, white, tofolli, dustin brown


To break it down ottawa sends Pheneuf, chlapic, and dzingle to Los Angeles for brown, and Tofoli.

Ottawa then flips brown and tofoli to Colorado with Ceci and white to get Barrie and Duchene.

Then ottawa flips Barrie along with turris to los angeles for doughty.


La needs a center now to replace Carter who likely won't be back this year, doughty wants to play with a contender which ottawa is, and Colorado gets what they want for Duchene, ottawa adds a couple pieces that could help them take the next step.

20 Oct 2017 01:07:02
😳😳😳😳🙅🏿.

20 Oct 2017 02:04:09
What have I just read.

20 Oct 2017 05:50:15
You should probably deactivate your account after that post.

20 Oct 2017 12:11:48
La gets eaten alive.

20 Oct 2017 14:22:13
Makes sense seeing as how you're a Sens fan and given that team's inability to sell out their home barn I'm guessing you've never seen a hockey game.

20 Oct 2017 17:08:55
How do you figure the kings to be shafted TopShelfSlappers? Lmfao


They lose their top defenceman doughty, a top 6 winger tofoli, and the worst contract in the trade in brown,
and in return they pick up 2 top 55 defencemen one who can log doughty like minutes in Barrie and not look out of place, and one who can solidify their 2nd pair in Phaneuf (whos contract is more benificial than browns as it expires 2 years earlier), plus they get a center who can challenge for the top spot in turris, a top 6 winger in dzingle to take toffoli spot, and a very solid prospect in chlapic. To say kings were ripped makes you dumber than a door nob.

And the Colorado end they give up a top 6 center who wants out anyway and who's value continues to drop the more sakic drags it on, and a top 4 defenceman,
In return they get their insane asking price for Duchene in top 4 defenceman Cody Ceci who has stepped up his game so far this year as expected from a young guy with the potential he has, an elite level prospect in white, and a top 6 winger in tuffoli gets Barrie do to the sens giving so much for Duchene, Colorado also takes brown as a cap dump to make it happen cap wise but in doing so they add experience and veteran leadership.

Ottawa lands an elite level defenceman in doughty that was very well payed for and basically a left handed Kyle turris with a bit more speed in Duchene.

Anyone who knows anything about hockey can tell you this is a hockey trade three ways as it benefits all 3 teams, both ottawa and Los Angeles benefit now while colorado gets a bright future which is what they are looking for in a Duchene deal anyway.

20 Oct 2017 17:19:40
Just because some of you guys under value sens players doesn't make you right about their value. Get off you nhl video games and come back to the real world and you'd notice that real life trade values differ from that of a video game counter part. Unlike some of you guys I actually do follow the sport and don't over value players like duchene based on a ridiculas asking price by his gm or under value players turris or Phaneuf based on the team they play for or a contract they signed.

I actually do my homework on players which is more than I can say for you lot. This is why I always place in top 10 of any hockey pools I join.

20 Oct 2017 17:24:01
And stinks I've been to plenty games and for the record the sens don't need to sell out to out sell the majority of the league. Top 4 in last year's playoffs, ottawa was number 1 in ticket sales out selling even a sold out pitsberg arena. So take that comment and leave it in the trash with the rest of the dirt coming out of your mouth.

20 Oct 2017 19:51:56
You definitely under value Toffoli. Easy no from LA for sure.

20 Oct 2017 20:17:51
I dunno senskill, I don't see how they outsell a full capacity penguins game when their stadium seats almost 2400 people less than pittsburghs, but I'm sure you have your own proof in your head of that. Also senators had almost 3000 empty seats for game 6 of the east final last year. That's embarrassing no matter how you slice it.

20 Oct 2017 22:08:31
Also I appreciate irony as much as the next guy and when someone calls someone else "Dummer than a door nob", not knowin himself that there's a silent K in knob, it makes me smile. Good on a Friday. Thanks senskill.

21 Oct 2017 00:22:39
i wouldn't be calling the breakdowns as players being "flipped" moreso than a straight up huge 3 team trade.

21 Oct 2017 00:57:47
Oh nice I was just wandering what I need more than anything, and a grammar lesson from someone who actually believes ottawa was out sold in ticket sales in last year's final 4 when it was actually proven they were number 1 of the 4 is just what the doctor ordered unbiasedjim.

21 Oct 2017 01:04:45
Would you trade Karlsson and Hoffman for Jeff Carter, Tyson Barrie, Tanner Pearson, Adrian Kempe and a 1st?

21 Oct 2017 01:05:44
For someone with unbiased in his user name you certainly over value certain players like tuffoli and Duchene while not giving other players, specifically sens players like turris, Phaneuf, dzingle, Ceci, and Ryan, the credit they deserve. You constantly bad mouth them based on stupidity rather than actually looking up their stats and history, or watching them play more than just 1 game. Every player might suck the odd game, that don't mean they are going to suck all the time.

21 Oct 2017 01:27:46
Duchene and turris have identical stats, histories, and in game performances in roughly the same number of games and Duchene played with better line mates for half of that time period yet a number of you somehow seem to think he's still worth more than turris. Not true.

Doughty is great yes and tuffoli is streaky at best, sort of like a poor man's Bobby ryan, add the 5 year contract of Dustin Brown to lower the value of that package and sending back turris a top 6 center at worst, Phaneuf a solid 3-4 defenceman to make up browns bad contract with one that is 2 years shorter, Barrie a proven top 4 defenceman who can log top 2 minutes, chlapic who is a top 3 or 4 prospect in ottawas system with a ton of potential, and dzingle is not that far off what tuffoli can do anyway.

Duchene worth a bit more than tuffoli, Barrie worth a bit more than Ceci, but adding white 2nd best prospect in Ottawa's system and highly sought over by other teams in the league, and the contract, leadership, and experience of Dustin Brown to the mix and it balances out.

21 Oct 2017 01:46:43
Wow you really are delusional af.

21 Oct 2017 01:54:42
Englander that's nowhere close to the same value I mentioned.

Sure doughty And karlsson are roughly the same value, but Hoffman out values tuffoli anyday due to greater point totals and consistency, Barrie in both deals cancels himself out, Pearson and dzingle are roughly the same, Phaneuf far more valuable than clempe, chlapic = a 1st round pick, while turris > carter for a number of reasons not including points per game totals as that roughly equal but rather age for instance, turris in his prime while Carter is much older and bound to go on the decline in the next couple years, plus he just suffered a season ending injury.

21 Oct 2017 08:29:00
Facelift39 lmao I'm delusional?

At least I can back my trade proposals up with cold hard facts stemming straight from nhl. com and backed with full stats and player historys as well as putting a proper value on top prospects rather than basing their value solely on the number of nhl games they've played.

Guys like you can easily make claims that my proposals are no good and that I'm delususional because of them but the fact is you guys can't back up what you're putting out there while I can with support from nhl official web site.

You continually say my trades are bad but you can't offer 1 reason why to back up your claims because you know they're not bad. Sure the odd 1 every once in a while could use some twerking but not all of them and certainly not this one.

21 Oct 2017 12:09:56
Phaneuf is the same in value as Brown. Look what Toronto took to give him to you. A 2nd, a guy shipped for Pickard and three cap dumps. His value has also dropped significantly since.

As well, we don't undervalue Dzingel and Chlapik. We just think that they are both much worse than anything else. They are the two worst assetts (apart from Brown) in The deal.

21 Oct 2017 13:51:25
Okay no Kempe>>>>Phaneuf. Phaneuf has no value and proved that when they tried to trade him away and there was no takers. And Turris is a pending UFA I’ll take carter over him anyday UFA or not.

21 Oct 2017 15:22:54
I assume I'm the guy you mean who claims to be unbiased but over values toffoli and Duchene and never once have I talked about toffoli or his value, nor am I a fan of Colorado or LA. I am as confused by that almost as much as every one of your posts. Carry on.

21 Oct 2017 15:30:06
LOL. I'm with Lindss on this one.

And yes, you're insanely delusional Senskill. It's not even funny.

21 Oct 2017 15:36:10
I've also never bad mouthed turris, Hoffman, certainly not Karlsson. I also watch quite a few senators games, 5-6 a year vs the leafs (was 8 till a cpl years ago) and a few others from time to time if I see it on. I was a guy that defended phaneuf against haters for years when he was a leaf and still like him as a player and as a guy, just makes too much money, which isn't his fault at all. Blame leafs management for giving it to him, and sens management for taking it on.

You are so defensive that you will make up what other people say to make them seem like the bad guy when in reality, as the comments from everyone that isn't you on this thread shows, you're out to lunch on player evaluations. I would like you to find where I bad mouthed any senator player.

Leafs traded phaneuf for a 2nd round pick, a C level prospect and 3 cap dumps to the sens. And you said you could move his 4 years at 7 mill straight up for James Neal. let's figure out who overvalues his own teams assets while diminishing others. Once James Neal arrives in Ottawa you will say he's a former 40 goal scorer on a good contract and 'flip' him for doughty. But kings wil have to add a small incentive because doughty has an extra year at more money, right?

21 Oct 2017 15:36:30
"This is why I place top 10 in any hockey pools I join"
LMAO! Nomination for quote of the year right there.

Cold hard facts? Your players values are coming off your OPINIONS. Dude. And you're WAY off its crazy.
You embarrass yourself bro. They ARE bad. Very very very bad! Constantly BAD! Lol!

21 Oct 2017 15:42:28
Just read too that you said browns bad contract brings down the value of toffoli and doughty in the package coming to the sens. but then when you flip him to Colorado, his 'leadership and experience' is all of a sudden an asset LOL come on man. The contract gets better and his attributes go up in the 15 minutes he's a senator? Of course they do.

22 Oct 2017 18:47:33
Chlapic and dzingle the lowest value in the trade? Lmfao clearly you're the delusional one if you actually believe that topshelfslapper lol

Dzingles rookie season sees him land top 6 minutes in a number of games and 32 points in 80 games as well as being regarded as one of the fastest players in the league while chlapic is an easy B+/ A- prospect at this point and proved he can hang in this year's preseason.

23 Oct 2017 17:24:01
Oh and besides that, how often, in real life not video games, do you see a trade involving a superstar or 2 going one way and the same number of superstars with equal value going back?

The answer is maybe like 15% of the time. The other 85% of the time it's the best offer to come along because

1 - a player demands a trade because they don't want to play there anymore (like in Duchene case)

2 - a player wants to be traded because they want to win and feel their team is not capable of doing so and would rather be somewhere that can (as stated by doughty earlier this year)

3 - team is looking to rebuild using draft picks and rookies

4 - to make room for a huge free agent signing

5 - to move up in a draft

6 - to dump salary

Etc etc etc

Point is majority of the trades that actually happen are usually trades that involve a super star on one side but not necessarily on the other which is why you have no choice at times but look look at the values of top picks and prospects to or impact a player has on a team or role they play.

For instance they way you make deals I could see you accepting a deal if I offered you Matt Duchene for the guarenteed 1st overall pick in the current years draft but any smart gm would laugh in my face at that offer and tell me to add more if i wanted to be considered as that pick is more valuable down the road.

19 Oct 2017 22:00:59
So Carter is most likely out for the season meaning the kings will most likely need to replace him if they hope to make playoffs.

To ottawa : doughty, duchesne

To Los Angeles : turris, phaneuf, chlapic,1st round pick, barrie.

19 Oct 2017 22:09:10
how bout Galchenyuk + 1st for Karlson + a guy from another team coming from nearly nowhere

Keep it up!

19 Oct 2017 22:14:39
Wtf is this? Where did barrie and Duchene come from? Either way it's garbage.

19 Oct 2017 22:30:32
Clicked to fast not the full post.

19 Oct 2017 22:38:22
Oh god. And I don't even want to know what Colorado gets. These type of deals just don't happen. This is a complete dream world.

19 Oct 2017 23:22:17
i said before if you think your sens are that good keep them.

20 Oct 2017 01:05:03
Don't bother posting the rest. This is atrocious.

20 Oct 2017 17:27:53
Full trade is above clicked by accident on this one.

24 Sep 2017 23:54:28
Will never happen but let's get some thoughts.

1st off

To ottawa : duchesne

To colorado : Ceci, white, perron, and a 2019 conditional 2nd or 3rd round pick.

Colorado builds for the future while ottawa goes all in now by going for one more trade.

To ottawa : doughty

To Los Angeles : turris, Wideman, paul, and a 1st round pick in 2018

Ottawa uses turris, the pick, and big prospect nick Paul to upgrade Wideman and replace ceci. Doughty gets to go to a cup contender while the kings get a decent top 4 replacement in wideman, a solid 1st or 2nd line center in turris, a big prospect in Paul and a 1st round pick.

Ottawa goes for a big cup run

Hoffman duchesne Ryan
Smith brassard stone
Brown pageau dzingle
Rienhart Thompson burrows
Wingles chlapic

Chabot karlsson
Phaneuf doughty
Claeson harbour
Borvievski

Anderson
Condon

Turris contract almost up anyway why not upgrade him long term with duchesne and make the rush that much easier by adding one of karlsson's toughest rivals a team mate all while keeping the biggest defence prospect as well in Chabot. Think of what Chabot could learn from doughty and karlsson. If doughty deal falls through go the other defence route and try for pietrangelo but change the 1st to a 2nd.

25 Sep 2017 04:57:22
Lol wow this post is something else.
Doughty trade is cringe worthy! That Petro backup plan offer is just laughable.
The "duchesne" (LMAO at spelling, sorry) trade isn't even that bad (needs better quality tho imo), I don't what you drank or took in the time between you finishing your 1st trade and starting your 2nd but I want in.

25 Sep 2017 05:20:15
You're not getting a prime aged Norris D man with 2 years left on his deal without your top 2 prospects plus plus in it. Nick Paul isn't on anyone's radar as a top prospect, he's a decent project, the first isn't going to be a good one, and turris as a first or second center? Where did Anze kopitar and Jeff carter go? Lol.

25 Sep 2017 11:00:55
Both trades are just horrid.

25 Sep 2017 16:14:26
"Will never happen but let's get some thoughts" Lol!

You're delusional for posting this. Straight up very delusional for even thinking, then posting this.

25 Sep 2017 16:21:26
Turris has been just as good as Carter for the last 5 years if not better lol 5 of 7 years turris had better stats than Carter on a weaker team 2016 Carter had much better stats and 2017 Carter was a little bit better but at the same time turris was adjusting to a new system under Boucher and didn't fall behind by much. So again given the age of Carter and kopitar and the decline that's bound to happen, yes top 1 or 2 center is expected from turris. And lots of teams covet a big body prospect like Paul to play their Checking lines. Add a 1st and a dman who could slip in on top 4 on Los Angeles easily and still get better, please tell me how that's a bad deal?

And duchesne deal basically gives sakic exactly what he wants in Ceci (top 4 dman with tons of potential who can log big minutes now), white (an elite level prospect center), and even sweetened the pot more by adding perron (mid level prospect with an upside) and a conditional drat pick based on how far into the playoffs the sens go.

I know something like this prob never happen but not because it's not fair value because it is more than fair value, but rather because teams now are far too complacent and won't try more than one blockbuster deal every so many years for the fear of losing team chemistry.

25 Sep 2017 16:34:34
Fact - duchesne wants out of Colorado ( his value drops due to attitude, getting closer to contract expirey, and due to situation being dragged on too long )

Fact - doughty went on record saying it's things don't get better in Los Angeles and they can't continue to be cup contenders then he wants to go to a cup contender team.


Fact - ottawa is coming of a season where if not for a blown call in the 1st overtime against pitsbergh on what was clearly a loose puck in blue paint in game 7 the would have been in the finals and probably would have beat Nashville to win the cup.

Fact - ottawa has 2 blue chip prospects taking the spots of Neil and methot and really making a name for themselves in the preseason in brown and Chabot.

Fact - add doughty and duchesne to the mix and yes the cup would be in reach. With guys like karlsson doughty and Chabot getting the play out of our end and setting up duchesne Ryan stone and Hoffman on the other end, yeah they'd have a great chance to put the doubters to rest.

25 Sep 2017 16:47:44
Oh and Unbiased Jim,

a 1st round pick is just as valuable as a top end prospect if the team has a competent scouting staff.

Also note that a top 6 / top 3 center in the prime of his career is the same or more value than a top level prospect and a top 4 d man or top 6 winger.

Throw in a young top 4 quality dman with time to grow and get better yet, tell me, what is the problem?

You people talk all this trash about my posts and proposals yet most of the time you post something so one sided against ottawa that it's cringeworthy lol. Sorry if I like both teams to benefit and not have my team torn a new one.

25 Sep 2017 17:18:07
You will need to offer up quite a bit more for Doughty. He's that good. The Duchesne offer looks reasonable but I don't know if I'd do that if I were Ottawa tbh. That's a lot of depth to give up for an up and coming team.

25 Sep 2017 17:39:40
Facts 3 and 5 aren't factual, fact 4 is irrelevant. the duchene trade is god awful for ottawa, can't believe you're a sens fan and would suggest that. the doughty trade is a complete joke for the kings, laughable at best.

25 Sep 2017 18:50:30
The duchesne offer is based around the premise of entising doughty even more so to waives his no trade clause to come to ottawa and guarrentee a trade for duchesne.

How would you have to offer more for doughty? That makes no sense.

A top 3/ 6 prime age center
A 1st round pick
A young prospect age defenceman who can play top 4 on the kings now
And a mid to top tier big body prospect

In what world is that not enough? Lol I'd get it if turris weren't the center piece coming back but he is, and he is a big enough piece to help the kings now and in the future lol.

Heck the preds landed subban for Weber straight up when Weber is up there in age and on the decline lol pretty sure kings end up better off in this one, while ottawa forms the deadliest blue line in hockey today and add a true number 1 center in the process.

Yes doughty is awesome but he's not karlsson level and arguably his last norris trophy is questionable a best as karlsson had him beat no doubt and he's coming off his worst season of his career to date and on record saying he does care if it's the kings or any other team he just wants to win. Loyalty in question and results (stats wise) in question after last season do drop his value a bit.

25 Sep 2017 19:01:01
Facelift39 lmfao what part of any of those facts are not factual? Go back and watch ot1 game 7, it's hard to miss the blown whistle at the wrong time with turris ready to pop in the game winner from blue paint with goalies back to him an whistle is blown, fact pits should have lost there.

They arguably should have beat the so called champs without brown chabot duchesne and doughty additions making them a bigger threat with them.

With power play units quarterbacks by karlsson and Chabot on 1 and doughty and Phaneuf on the other and led by duchesne Ryan and brown on one and brassard stone and Hoffman on the other there would be no stopping a goal from happening as the 2nd line is just as dangerous as the 1st.

25 Sep 2017 20:02:52
Oh god. You wrote so much delusional crapmin your original post I'm not even considering reading any of this.

25 Sep 2017 21:14:22
Senskill. when you say the senators "probably" would have beat nashville, or the addition of doughty and duchene would give the senators a great chance to put doubters to rest, or pittsburgh "shouldve" lost there. those aren't facts dummy.

26 Sep 2017 17:50:51
Ok so 2 of the 3 are probabilities but the one about ottawa should've beat pitsbergh is a cold hard fact. No way turris misses an open net game winner from inside the blue paint while the goalies back is turned in the 1st overtime when the whistle was blown prematurely as soon as murray touched the puck. No 2 or 3 second wait or nothing. Fact ottawa is the real east conference winner not shitsberg.

26 Sep 2017 17:59:20
And old trades that say the doughty trade is a great fair value deal, I've got 3.

1-

Jack Johnson straight up for Jeff Carter. (Johnson was doughty number 2 and only got Carter, turris is just as good as Carter if not better, and younger, plus a 1st, a top 4 quality young defenceman and the big role player that every team needs at least 1 or 2 of.

2 -

Seth Jones for Ryan Johansson straight up.

3 - kevin shattenkirk for Chris Stewart and nobodies.

16 Sep 2017 18:22:45
LAK - CAR

LAK: Lee Stempniak

CAR: Jordan Nolan, conditional 2019 3rd and 2018 4th round pick

*Condition if Stempniak puts up 40 points and Kings make playoffs pick is 2nd.

I just noticed Carolina's depth chart and they have Stempniak penciled on the 4th line because of their insane wing depth so they could spare Stempniak and use the picks for a player that won't do much for them.
Kings get a solid wing player who can score decently which we desperately need.

16 Sep 2017 23:24:22
Seems fair to me, and makes sense for both teams imo. Stempniak could be a middle 6 F in LA, Nolan provides some good grit and toughness for a young Canes team. good post.

03 Sep 2017 16:59:41
Nic Dowd to the Pittsburgh Penguins in exchange for Derrick Pouliot, Tom Sestito and a 2018 3rd Round Pick.

- Dowd can play third line centre for the Penguins, and may get 35+ points playing on a good team.
- Pouliot can help a depleted dcorps in Los Angeles, and can actively step into a top 4 role.

15 Aug 2017 19:19:35
To la kings: pasternak and 2 round pick 2018
To boston: muzzin or martinez, kempe and 1 round pick 2018.

16 Aug 2017 19:41:54
Holy smokes that's horrible for Boston.

17 Aug 2017 16:04:19
It's not that horrible for Boston if Muzzin is included. Also, instead of Kempe, I'd include pearson.

15 Jul 2017 13:48:31
To la kings: duchene
To colorado: kempe, clague, martinez and 1 round pick 2018.

16 Jul 2017 15:40:58
No old players for duchene.

17 Jul 2017 21:21:38
Not bad honestly, Martinez is probably a bit old for Avs liking but still an established top 4 LHD (think he's a lefty), a potential future top 6dman with offensive upside and an NHL ready, future top 6/ 9 Winger and a 1st. I'd likely do it if I'm Sakic.

14 Jul 2017 01:25:46
LAK: Michael Hutchinson

WPG: 2018 3rd round pick

Ik it's not a blockbuster or anything, but the Kings need a backup goalie and Hutchinson has slipped to #3 on the depth chart.

05 Jul 2017 13:11:32
To vegas: martinez
To la kings: 2 round pick 2019

Is this good trade?

05 Jul 2017 16:13:29
No from Vegas. They have said numerous numerous times, They are building through the draft. Acquiring draft picks for these type of players. Not trading away draft picks for these players.

05 Jul 2017 22:16:11
@yup they would probably be able to flip Martinez for more than a 2nd as well though if they did acquire him.

07 Jul 2017 05:36:35
Kings have been shopping Martinez since the deadline. If there was someone out there willing to pay more than Vegas, kings would already know. He's been offered around, anyone could get him directly from the kings if they want him, why pay Vegas to be a middleman?

04 Jul 2017 20:22:28
To la kings: jamie mccgin
To arizona: gaborik and kempe.

26 Jun 2017 19:45:52
LA: Marian Gaborik, Adrian Kempe and 2018 3rd

Ottawa: Bobby Ryan

LA: Gets a very serviceable top 6 forward who could use a change of Scenery. He is overpaid but he could help the Kings.

Ottawa: Gets cap space and a top prospect in Adrian Kempe. Marian Gaborik is an wildcard. He is coming off of two bad seasons but he does have the tools to be very good. Still has a shot,nice hands and is an amazing skater. Could do well with a change of scenery.

26 Jun 2017 21:30:31
I'd do that and run tbh.

27 Jun 2017 01:11:34
I feel like Ottawa would just gets most of its money back, except for Silfverberg so ya just take it and run.

25 Jun 2017 22:11:16
To la kings: galchenyuk
To montreal: muzzin, ladue and auger

26 Jun 2017 03:41:47
I think Montreal wants to package Galchenyuk++ to get a first line center and a top 4 Defenceman and auger is worthless idk much about ladue he seems decent.

26 Jun 2017 04:02:54
No from LA wtf.

26 Jun 2017 04:03:55
Muzzin is a legit number 2 d-man and if u didn't watch Ladue last year then u wouldn't know that he has seeeerious too 4 potential.

25 Jun 2017 15:40:10
To la kings:galchenyuk
To montreal: muzzin or martinez and 3 round pick 2018

25 Jun 2017 17:12:29
No from Montreal.

25 Jun 2017 17:14:42
Montreal won't trade Galchenyuk for old players.

26 Jun 2017 03:06:57
Alikhan define old.

24 Jun 2017 21:06:28
to la kings: evander kane (1.2 mil retained just for 1 year)

to bufallo: alec martinez and mersch

why? beacuse buffalo nedds top 4 defensman and kane wants to leave buffalo

25 Jun 2017 14:29:24
No I don't want Kane and his toxic personality anywhere near the Kings.

25 Jun 2017 17:43:15
Kings lover- Skill>>>>>>>>Attitude.

24 Jun 2017 20:59:49
to arizona: brown(1 mil retained), shore and 3 round pick 2018

to la kings: 4 round pick 2018 and jooris

24 Jun 2017 22:34:55
kings have to pay like 2 first for any team to take his horrifying contract.

25 Jun 2017 00:44:55
LA adds there 1st in 2018.

25 Jun 2017 14:29:55
No way Coyotes so this.

12 Jun 2017 03:36:15
LA Kings Offseason:

Make trade before the expansion deadline:

Kings:
Gaborik

Buffalo:
3rd RP, 4th RP, Justin Kea

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Expansion Deal:

Vegas takes Brown and Vegas also gets Buffalo's 3rd and Kings 2nd

Protection List (not necessary) :
- Kopitar
- Carter
- Toffoli
- Pearson
- Doughty
- Muzzin
- Martinez
- McNabb
- Quick

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Draft Michael Rasmussen

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Current Lineup:

? - Kopitar - Toffoli
Pearson - Carter -?
Kempe - Lewis -?
Nolan - Shore - Clifford
Dowd - Andreoff

Muzzin - Doughty
Martinez - McNabb
Forbert - LaDue
Gravel

Quick
Zatkoff

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Trade:
Kings:
Martinez
2nd RP 2018

Tampa:
Drouin

Sign Drouin 5yr/ 25m (5 AAV)
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Sign TJ Oshie 5yrs/ 30m (5 AAV)
Sign Justin Williams 1yr/ 3m
Sign Shattekirk 6yr/ 36m (6 AAV)

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2017-18 Roster:

Drouin - Kopitar - Toffoli
Pearson - Carter - Oshie
Kempe - Lewis -William
Nolan - Shore - Clifford
Andreoff - Dowd

Muzzin - Doughty
McNabb - Shattenkirk
Forbert - LaDue
Gravel

Quick
Zatkoff

This should be a faster, more offensively potent team that should see themselves back in the playoffs.

12 Jun 2017 05:20:49
Lol like in your dreams.

12 Jun 2017 05:23:36
Gabor has a horrible contract kings have to give a second and 3rd for buffalo to take his contract.

12 Jun 2017 05:24:59
Martinez and 2nd for drouin try again bud add a first to that and maybe that's coming from a habs fan.

12 Jun 2017 14:19:08
This is such a fantasy.

11 Jun 2017 00:58:26
B. Seabrook to the Los Angeles Kings in exchange for D. Brown + A. Kempe + B. McNabb.

Seabrooks on the chopping block. Brown just flat out sucks. Both have bad contracts. Seabrook is better than Brown now, and will probably be for the next 3-4 years.

11 Jun 2017 04:30:04
How does this help the hawks?

11 Jun 2017 04:57:22
I like it both have brutal contracts. Maybe 1 mil retained on brown.

11 Jun 2017 14:49:52
Obviously doesn't help the Hawks but it doesn't help the Kings.

11 Jun 2017 15:11:35
Also curious as to how this helps the Hawks?

06 Jun 2017 18:06:22
Buffalo taking calls on E. Kane.

Drouin talks with Tampa are at a stand still and teams know, And are calling about him.

LA Kings are showing interest in both. They are trying to get some more scoring I keep reading.
Could make Muzzin or Martinez available.

06 Jun 2017 18:50:45
I could see the Kings making those 2 available. They need some changes in LA forsure. I think only Quick, Doughty and Kopitar are secure, anyone else could probably be available.

06 Jun 2017 22:59:29
I'd say Quick and Doughty are secure and maybe Tofolli as well. But I'm thinking Kopitar could be move for a good package from a team who need some a number one center. Maybe Kopitar for Chuck and Julsen.

06 Jun 2017 23:15:26
Wouldnt want Kopitar at his contract.

07 Jun 2017 01:59:03
Kopitar for only Galchenyuk and Juulsen holy Christ that's horrible.

07 Jun 2017 03:24:59
Kings wouldn't move kopitar if that's all they get. Just committed to him for 8 years and put the C on him. A worse centre and decent prospect doesn't sway them to abandon the core.

07 Jun 2017 04:28:18
Vancouver and LAK are talking to Buffalo about E. Kane.
Buffalo wants to move him. Owner and wide were not happy what so ever with his partying last June when the draft and everyone from around th NHL were in town.

07 Jun 2017 04:28:35
Send him to Vegas! Screw it. Would be entertaining. Lol.

05 May 2017 10:12:57
How about

LA: Gaborik, Martinez, 2nd round pick

CAR: Teräväinen, Läck, Murphy

What do you think? Kings need more space to their salary cap, and Huricanes could really use a good d-man and an experienced winger.

05 May 2017 10:38:07
Canes don't need D-men. They need Duchene-like forward.

 
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