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19 Jun 2017 07:45:39
Draft Day Trade

To TOR: Jason Demers ($500,000 per year retained), and the 10th overall pick

To FLR: JVR (50% retained), and the 17th overall pick.

I think Leaf fans have to give up on the idea of the big sexy trade for that young top pairing RD and look for an efficient pairing RD who has good possession numbers and can play some D. Its doubtful that Vegas takes Demers as Florida has exposed some really talented wingers. With one of those wingers gone, JVR fulfills a really important need as the Panthers wingers are their weakness. The money retention balances out as it gives Florida a cheaper scoring option this year and Toronto gets a bit of cash shaved off of that four year contract. JVR is by far the more talented player hence the swap of draft picks


1.) 19 Jun 2017 15:02:25
I could actually see Gardiner and Demers being a good pairing together.

2.) 19 Jun 2017 16:10:47
I think Florida needs to add abit. IMO 10th and JVR are close and Demers is a cap dump.

3.) 19 Jun 2017 16:24:45
Good deal honestly.

4.) 19 Jun 2017 20:55:13
Demers might get taken by LV.

5.) 21 Jun 2017 01:49:26
I like it.

Only question i have is, is it really neccessary to move up to 10? Cause there are some decent dmen at 17. Imo, i'd rather do something like this (Demers for JVR), and Florida adds like a second. No swap of firsts. Idk. I just don't like the leafs history of trading up in drafts (Biggs for Rakell/ Gibson, ughhh) .

But good idea ✔
I do agree that JVR isn't going to get a Fowler or a Brodin or a top pairing guy, but getting a servicable guy like Demers is definetly feasable.



13 Jun 2017 18:45:20
Before the hopeful madness of the pre-expansion trades start, I just want to reel off my ideal Toronto Maple Leafs offseason

Trade #1 -

To TOR: Josh Manson, Clayton Stoner ($3.25 mill cap dump) and Max Jones

To ANA: JVR (50% retained), Nikita Soshnikov, Tobias Lindberg

Trade #2 -

To TOR - Niemi ($4.5 mill), 39th overall

To DAL - Rinat Valiev

Trade #3 - IF Liljegren falls to #11 (If not I hope Foote falls to #17 but I doubt it)

To TOR: #11 overall

To LA: #17 and Jeremy Bracco (I would only ever trade Bracco to a Western Conference team)

Leafs draft Liljegren at #11, Oettinger at #39 (or best available G), and Mattheos at #50


Brian Boyle for 3 years at $2.3
Darren Raddysh to a ELC

There are my hopes for the Leafs so I imagine I will be roasted for them but I do not think I have said anything too outrageous


1.) 13 Jun 2017 19:36:33
Signing Raddysh would be a great pick up for leafs.

2.) 13 Jun 2017 21:31:45
Some of it makes sense. Rinat Valiev, as much as I think he has a chance of being an NHL player down the road, currently holds next to no value. At the moment he's an average to slightly above average AHL Dman. Nothing makes him worth more than 3-4 players in the same situation in every teams organization. Those type of guys only have value to their own organization because they have nothing really invested and any progress is a bonus.

3.) 13 Jun 2017 22:42:15
I think these are really good and fair trades 👍👍.

4.) 14 Jun 2017 03:08:44
Anaheim has a deal in place for Vegas to not select Manson.



10 Jun 2017 18:19:12
This can be ignored as fantasy as I don't think a four team trade has ever happened but I read all of these rumours and I start to think about which player properly fits with each teams need.

To NYI: Eberle
To TO: Hamonic
To EDM: Vatanen

I just believe that each of these moves fill a specific team need (RW to play with Tavaras, bigger defensive RD, top LW, puck moving RD). You can argue value of each player as not being equal (personally I think JVR is the best player there but he only has one year left on his deal). This deal would never happen anyways, just some early morning thoughts


1.) 10 Jun 2017 18:30:05
So Edmonton wins by giving up the least valuable player of the four?

2.) 10 Jun 2017 19:14:45
Mcalrty I disagree Vatanen is nothing special weak defensively, Less Physical then most CHL players and Weak shot. Pretty good skater with a nice 1st pass tho. Starting to become overrated he's a fringe 4th dman. Eberle for Vatanen is fair and good for both teams.

3.) 10 Jun 2017 19:30:28
Oilers would need to add to anaheim imo. Retain some salary and/ or picks or prospects.

4.) 10 Jun 2017 20:58:43
There all probably decently close in value but salary retention can be made to equal things out. Pretty crazy but it definitely fits needs and all players have been on the block. And McClarty he may be but Vatanen is probably second least valuable.

5.) 10 Jun 2017 21:01:11
Yes, EDM gets to give up the least valuable player while getting back what is probably the most valuable player. That's how it's supposed to work, right?

6.) 10 Jun 2017 22:19:57
Id say oil and T. O make out like bandits. If Ebs with 2 years isn't worth hamonic no way JVR is any closer with 1 year remaining.

7.) 10 Jun 2017 18:37:28
Don't like it for Leafs and Ducks. Hmm Hamonic and Eberle big surprise seeing the 2 most overvalued players.



09 Jun 2017 06:15:37
A pre-expansion draft trade that can benefit both teams

To BOS: Jonas Brodin

To MIN: 18th overall and Jakob Forsbacka-Karlsson

Boston solidifies their d core once Chara retires:

Krug - Carlo
Brodin - McAvoy
Zobril - Miller (C or K?)

Minnesota recoups a first rounder after that horrible Hanzel trade and gets another promising prospect that could play C or RW (also the Bruins cannot offer Spooner since the Wild would be unable to protect him)


1.) 09 Jun 2017 10:48:40
This could be me but I think the bruins would need to add just a bit more.

2.) 09 Jun 2017 14:42:08
Good trade, wouldn't be surprised if this happens.

3.) 11 Jun 2017 18:20:56
No from Minnesota.



09 Jun 2017 01:37:07
I think that Carolina needs to make a play for Matt Duchene and they have the assests to make it work.

To CAR: Duchene

To COL: Slavin, Bean, CAR 2017 2nd

This works for both teams. Carolina gets their much needed # 1 C, which properly slots both Rask and Staal in their proper spots. Fleury can replace Slavin. They also have two other 2nd round picks so they can afford to give the pick up. Avs get fix their back end as Slavin would pair nice with Barrie, and Bean could go with Johnson. They would also be able to draft a replacement centre with the #4 overall


1.) 09 Jun 2017 16:29:30
Overpayment for Duchene in my opinion, but it's probably going to take that to move him.




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12 Jun 2017 20:22:29
Before the craziness of this week begins, I just want to list my ideal three weeks for the Toronto Maple Leafs.

Trade #1

To TOR: Josh Manson, Clayton Stoner ($3.25 mill cap dump), and Max Jones

To ANA: JVR (50% retained), Andreas Johnsson, Tobias Lindberg

Trade #2

To TOR: Niemi ($4.5 mill), #39th overall

To DAL: Rinat Valiev

Trade # 3 - Draft day scenario IF Liljegren falls to #11

To TOR: #11 overall (Liljegren)

To LA: #17 and Jeremy Bracco (I would only trade Bracco to a Western Conference team)

Leafs draft Liljegren at 11, Oettinger at 39 (or best available G), and Mattheos at 50

Leafs sign Boyle @ 3 years x 2.2 mill
Leafs sign Darren Raddysh at ELC

Once again, this is just my hopes so I imagine I will take a lot of slack for it, though I do not think I have said anything too outlandish


1.) 12 jun 2017 21:53:49
dont trade future all star andreas johnson, i love the guy don't trade him.

2.) 13 Jun 2017 01:10:32
I heard that Ottawa would want to draft Oettinger in the first round.

3.) 13 Jun 2017 01:41:55
Agree with BigZ maybe not star part but rather trade someone else. Hyman?

4.) 13 Jun 2017 02:47:06
I don't know about the first two prospects but I think if they were swapped with the 17th pick it would be closer on the first trade.



21 May 2017 21:46:27
I really think that Carolina needs to make a play for Duchene and they have the D men to pull the trade off before the draft.

To CAR: Matt Duchene

To COL: Jacob Slavin and Jake Bean

Caroline also has three 2nd round picks if they need an additional carrot. Duchene would solidify Carolina's centres moving Rask and Staal to their ideal lines. Hadyn Fleury can move up and take Slavins spot

For Colorado this would completely round out their D core with Slavin pairing with Barrie and Bean with Johnson. Bean and Barrie can run their PP, and Slavin and Johnson provide defensive anchors


1.) 21 May 2017 23:48:10
Take out Bean then it's Fair.

2.) 22 May 2017 05:31:22
No VB. Duchene >> Slavin straight up.



12 May 2016 22:48:50
Alright Leaf fans, not to totally quash the trading up to the top 10 rumours but the Leafs probably do not have the assets to do it. Pittsburg is continuing to win, greatly diminishing the value of their 1st round pick. Leafs are now looking at a bottom four pick and in this draft players from the 25-40 range are all very equal in talent.

Using a chart that was recommended by Elliot Friedman, which looks at the relative value of each pick in the draft I have come up with what it will take for the Leafs to trade up.

The three most likely candidates to trade are MIN, NYI, and FLA as they are all missing their second and third round picks this more (and even more in some cases)

To get the 15th overall from the Wild, it will cost: PIT 1st, SJ 2017 2nd, Leafs 3rd and NJ 3rd or PIT 1st and Leafs 2nd

To get the 19th overall from the Islanders, it will cost: PIT 1st, SJ 2017 2nd and NJ 3rd or PIT 1st, WAS 2nd and Leafs 3rd

To get the 23rd overall pick from FLA, it will cost: PIT 1st and WAS 2nd

There we have it folks, those are the traded pick value according to that chart. See which one you like best

(To get the values right I made some assumptions like the Pens losing in the Stanley Cup which mean their pick is the 29th and that SJ's 2017 2nd round pick would be around 45, meaning that they squeak in to the playoffs and lose first round)



1.) 13 May 2016 02:01:26
I like the 15th overall idea but we also have JVR, Kappnen, Bozak and Komarov as trade chips.



12 Feb 2016 16:06:52
What about this deal:

To OTT - Drouin
To TB - Chabot

At first glance, this might be a bit of an under payment for Drouin but it's probably the max I would give if I were the Sens. He's a top puck moving d man prospect that TB covets. I think they have moved past trying to get someone who can help them this year.

I have heard other deals like Paul + 1st for Drouin but I feel that is way to much for a projected 2nd liner and/ or possible bust, as Ottawa could draft someone like Keller with their 1st who is a similar player.


1.) 12 Feb 2016 18:18:02
Drouin is a second liner. He's still a projected elite/ superstar talent. Don't kid yourself that because he's throwing a tantrum he's a bust. Could effect his value but it does not effect his skill level.

2.) 12 Feb 2016 18:41:02
Drouin isn't a 2nd liner. If he was he wouldn't be sitting on his couch in Quebec.

3.) 12 Feb 2016 21:00:59
Bud do you follow the Lightning at all? He wasn't getting top 6 minutes in tampa because they have too many top 6 forwards. He was coming odd injury so they sent him down to condition/ get those minutes. Then he made the decision to go public so they couldn't bring him back up and the decision to sit on a couch in Quebec. He currently has the skill to play in the top 6 on most nhl teams that's evident to anyone whose watched him play.




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17 Jun 2017 19:22:16
Great deal for the sabres.




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17 Jun 2017 06:35:23
Sport, I miss read that. I hope Montreal is not that stupid . I am not a Brodin fan.




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17 Jun 2017 06:32:54
Take it and run.




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15 Jun 2017 20:51:27
Drouin has the highest ceiling but I like it for both teams.




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12 Jun 2017 19:03:27
Vatanen is 5'10, 180 lbs RD who has never played a full season in the NHL because of injuries and won't be able to do so next year because of his shoulder. He is offensively talented, great shot, good at puck movement and possession but it's defensively where I question him. I just don't think he is the right fit for the Leafs. They are ideally looking for someone to pair with Reilly, to unshackle Reilly offensively, by being a superior shot suppressor, a presence in front of the net, while still maintaining a good possession game. Someone who defensively can take on the opponents best players and be a PK guy. My feeling is that if the Leafs do trade for Vatanen, it's because that perfect fit is not out there and they inquired on Manson, Hamonic, Myers, etc but there was no movement.





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