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06 Dec 2018 11:30:23
Where would you rank klefbom as a defenseman in the nhl.

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1.) 06 Dec 2018 13:18:56
Close to 90th.


2.) 06 Dec 2018 14:39:49
Around 40th.


3.) 06 Dec 2018 15:18:20
Just about every team has someone better, a lot have 2 better and some like nashville, Carolina and Anaheim have 3+ better. So I don’t see with those numbers how he could be any higher than 55-60th.


4.) 06 Dec 2018 15:34:21
Giordano, Brodie, doughty, muzzin, Karlsson, Burns, vlasic, lindholm, Fowler, Ekman-Larson, Schmidt.

Without even thinking, that’s 11 in his own division alone that are miles better, not consodering guys that would be in his range and personal preference would determine rank like Manson, hanifin, Colin Miller etc and not including young guys that look almost as good already with far more potential like Montour, theadore, Chychrun etc.

Go team by team and there’s no way he would be better than 60th in my opinion.


5.) 06 Dec 2018 15:52:53
One thing all of those guys have in common are they don't play on the oilers lol. you got to take in consideration how bad this team has been cause if klefbom is on an actual good team he would look as good or better then a few of those guys.


6.) 06 Dec 2018 16:41:00
Possibly a cpl, that’s why I said there’s guys in his range that could go either way. But the first 11 guys on that list and countless others from other divisions would be better regardless of team. I could make a list of the dmen from across the league and i would be very shocked if he was higher than 60th, but who knows.


7.) 06 Dec 2018 18:25:01
Your right there are probably 20 dmen who are in the same range that are really too close to call. i just feel he's starting to come into his own now and IMO has a slight edge on a lot of those guys. Plus hitch should help his development too. I also think by seasons end if he doesn't get injured. a lot more people will be praising his play a bit more.


8.) 06 Dec 2018 19:03:24
Yeah, I think when you do these ranks, guys always have certain guys they like more than others that are so close. Almost easier to do tiers like people were doing with the top young centres a cpl weeks ago.

Also because once you have 5 guys that are pretty equal skill wise but different styles, you’re going to lean towards your own personal team need. Like I would say Colin Miller over klefbom for the right shot, or Manson over kelefbom for the right shot and physicality that we need. And where a habs or oilers fan may choose a more mobile/ offensive guy over them.


9.) 07 Dec 2018 01:10:03
Wow Jim you sure watch an absolute ton of hockey. Lots of the Oilers and western team games are over close to or after midnight in the east too, Impressive.

Klefbom is 4th in total time on ice this season for all players. Behind only Doughty, Seth Jones, Letang.
And tied for 21st for points for all D men with only 3 goals after a slow start.
He's having a very very solid season so far for his team.
He's better than Schmidt, Muzzin and Brodie 😂😂. And in the same group maybe better than some other mentioned. He deserves a little more credit for the season he's having. Not an amazing superstar or elite by no means. Don't take what I say the wrong way.
That's all I'll say on this. Not interested in some kind of argument. I'm just very happy he's having a good year after a down year last year, he was one of my keys to this season and he's. It disappointing.


10.) 07 Dec 2018 02:02:54
I like klefbom because of his ability to play effectively for 25+ mins a game. not all dmen can do that. I'm not sure miller could actually for any stretch of time. Manson looks like he could but yeah like you say it would come down to what you value more between those two. I like them both.


11.) 07 Dec 2018 03:36:28
@yupp. He’s a decent player. I never said a bad word about him lol 55th-60th in a 31 team is basically calling him a top pair. But until he does it longer, he’s a low end top pair. That should not be offensive.

I see you don’t want to argue because in 3 days you never responded to the Bob Nicholson quotes. You call me out again about how Seattle has nothing to do with Edmonton and when the CEO of the franchise says otherwise, you disappear. Once again, Habby and I were having a good discussion, agreeing on some things and disagreeing on others and keeping it civil. Then you have to run your mouth lol

I do watch a lot of west games. I’m up late every night. If there’s a game on, I’m usually tuned in for some if not all of it. I’m surprised you watch the oilers since you didn’t know who is the assistant gm or know that they were a possibility to be moved out of that division as of Tuesday at the BOG meetings. You don’t have to agree with everything, you don’t have to like leaf fans or me personally, but like i said before just don’t be a pompous ass talking down to people when in reality every time you post, you come off as more and more uneducated.

Did Seattle have ANYTHiNG to do with Edmonton? Did you read the article? Are you man enough to say you did? Or just ghost the site for a cpl days and come back the same tool you were when you had no idea that I was right when oilers and coyotes were both on the ballot for moving divisions? Or just be a whiner about me saying your Dman is a top 60 out of 210+ dmen in the league. Buck up big man.


12.) 07 Dec 2018 03:54:59
@habby, For sure. If he was a righty, I would love to add klefbom. We need a solid minute muncher but on the Right side. Problem is on the left side he doesn’t touch Rielly and dermott looks like a real player built for today’s game and he’s playing for so cheap still. Which is why I would take Manson or Miller who I feel are in the 55-65th range too and shouldn’t feel bad about that lol.


13.) 07 Dec 2018 04:19:41
Also @yupp, just got home, hawks and Vegas on Sportsnet. 8 min left in the 2nd Can I please Stay up to watch it?!? 🥺 lol.


14.) 07 Dec 2018 12:42:47
Not sure why you're so offended, I complimented you on something I found impressive.
Haven't been on much lately because working 14 hr busy days now. Also have zero interest in responding to much you say lately. Thanks tho. 👍
I apologize I don't have much time to come on here the last few days, Hope you'll be ok buddy. 🙏.


15.) 07 Dec 2018 14:29:05
No, it wasn’t a compliment, it was a backhanded sarcastic comment like everyone on here knows you do after you make a mistake. You called me out for being wrong, then it’s shown it wasn’t wrong, it was correct info, so instead of acknowledging that you double down on being a dick again by implying I’m making up the fact I watch late games because there’s no way someone in the eastern time zone could stay up past midnight to watch hockey, right? you prove my ‘pompous ass’ analysis everytime you talk. You’re wrong so you insult people so you can stay high up looking down. If you’re too busy for the site, then be too busy for me too. You were away for 3 days and read the comments. No arguments lol.


16.) 08 Dec 2018 06:33:27
Top 75.


17.) 08 Dec 2018 12:22:40
I can't believe you kept tabs on how long I was away. You really are my shadow. Sorry you feel offended I never gave you attention. get over it and whine somewhere else.


18.) 08 Dec 2018 17:05:10
Habby said klefbom would be around 40th, but agreed with atleast some of my reasoning why I would have him 55-60th, hotguubabes has him 75th and vbb has him 90th and I’m the only one you go after lol and I’m your shadow? 😂

I’ll tell you klefbom is a top 10 Dman if it will make you feel better. Everyone, including you will know it’s complete BS but if that’s what it will take for you not to feel picked on, I’ll say it. I’d just rather say things as I actually see them than cater to the needs of a thin skinned man on a self constructed pedestal. Klefbom is a good player. Not a star, not a plug. On a 31 team league, each team carries 7 dmen, some 8, that’s about 225 dmen. That puts him in the top 25-30%. What’s wrong with that?!? Lol.


19.) 08 Dec 2018 20:05:41
Jake Gardiner has played top 4 minutes basically his whole career as has klefbom. He has broke 30 pts 5 of 7 NHL seasons, 40 twice and 50 once and is a minus 1 player. He’s been a positive corsi player every single season of his 8 seasons including this one.

Klefbom has broke 30 pts once in 6 nhl seasons (adjust for injuries he may have done it another time or two) is a minus 35ish player (adjust for injuries probably would have been worse) and has been a positive corsi player 3 times in his career. His icetime is almost as much as Seth Jones so he’s elite? ! lol isn’t that just another condemning mistake by Chiarelli? Traded a hart trophy forward for a top D and yet you’re still requires to play Klefbom as much as the best D in the world?!

They’re different players, I’m aware, but if someone told me Gardiner was 55-60th best player at his position in the best league in the world, that would be a flattering comment lol but I’ll leep my word and tell you what you need to hear.

klefbom is a legit elite Dman in the game today, and it would be robbery if he doesn’t get Norris consideration because he’s a legit top Dman on a good team that’s as good or better than the guys i named earlier like doughty, burns, Karlsson, Giordano, vlasic, muzzin etc.


20.) 08 Dec 2018 21:01:16
Jimmy and Yupp are having they're first fight!


21.) 08 Dec 2018 21:50:39
Just calling him a big baby! I'm not even reading what he writes. keep more tabs on me my shadow. Won't be responding to you much anyways. You do have an incredible amount of hockey knowledge with how much you watch of every team in the league tho, that IS impressive and I'm giving you props, again. 👊👊.
Sorry for the compliment, sure you'll feel offended in some way and whine about it. I don't give a fuk.


22.) 09 Dec 2018 04:51:13
I think Klefbom would be really good second pairing dman on teams with good d-depth, or a not so great top pairing d man on teams without good-depth. Top 75 IMO but still young with room to grow vs. a lot of guys on the list that are better right now but won’t be for much longer.


23.) 09 Dec 2018 14:56:03
@ unsportsmanlike, don’t say what you really think lol anything less than elite is offensive. YUPPS got to be the guy trying to get Christmas songs pulled off the radio if Klefbom being called only a top pair D is offensive lol 😂 😂 😂.


 

 

 

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