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16 Apr 2019 13:37:31
EDM - 2019 1st (8th), Puljujarvi
MON - 2019 1st (15th), Drouin

Thoughts on the cost to move up and if that’s a deal Montreal would be interested in.
Also I’m aware the Oil would need to drop cap. Might have to be in another trade or potentially added to this one.


1.) 16 Apr 2019 15:25:37
I don't think this is close for MTL to consider. Pul just doesn't have enough value to be brought into a deal like this to level it out. Maybe if you take out Drouin and go for someone else.

2.) 16 Apr 2019 19:46:42
It is interesting but because of pool party's lack of establishment in the league i could see montreal saying no.

3.) 16 Apr 2019 20:42:13
What if Byram or Broberg are still there at 8? Also I think GM’s might value Puljujarvi more than we do. I understand that he’s a gamble but he still has high potential.

4.) 17 Apr 2019 02:14:50
If by ram is still there at 8th then that makes it closer but habs might be able to get Broberg at 15th. Drouin played bad for 20 games this year. Pulujarvi hasn't done anything in 3 years. I think the habs would still want more.

5.) 18 Apr 2019 19:23:17
It might not be the right move for Montreal and may be too much. But I was looking and in the past the price to move up in the draft is fairly expensive. To move up 3-5 spots in the late 20’s it’s usually a 3rd. To move up 5-7 spots in the early 20’s- mid teens it’s an early second. So I’m thinking to move up 7 spots from mid teens to top 10 it would be at least a late first.
It all depends if Montreal wants to move on from Drouin or not I’d think. Also what GM’s are seeing in the draft.



27 Mar 2019 04:41:42
EDM - Lucic (6M 4YRS), 2019 2nd, 2020 2nd
TOR - Zaitsev (4.5M 5YRS), 2020 1st
VAN - Schaller (1.9M 1YRS)

EDM - Zaitsev
TOR - Schaller
VAN - Lucic, 1st, 2nd, 2nd

Would these teams be interested in a trade like this? If so, how are the values?


1.) 27 Mar 2019 05:49:11
I actually don't think its too bad. But trade clearly favours toronto.

2.) 27 Mar 2019 07:01:48
Toronto gives up more. A second to dump Zaitsev isn’t enough.

3.) 27 Mar 2019 10:11:22
vertius, they are giving up a 1st though?

4.) 27 Mar 2019 15:05:33
yeah a super super late 1st to tho.

5.) 27 Mar 2019 15:51:47
Considering where they are likely to finish its an above average second.

6.) 28 Mar 2019 11:35:20
Wait so toronto gives up a 1st and oilers 2 2nds this doesn't favor toronto it favors edmonton lolll they aren't going to get rid of lucic for 2 2nds enjoy lucic edmonton until the end of his contract hahahahaha.

7.) 28 Mar 2019 11:36:54
My bad didn't know zaitsev went to edmonton yea toronro should give up a tad more maybe add a 2nd going to vancouver and a 3rd from vancouver to Edmonton or so.

8.) 28 Mar 2019 11:37:52
Maybe Toronto adds a 3rd or 4th, who should get it?

9.) 28 Mar 2019 16:10:19
MTL4LIFE. Why would Vancouver add when WE’RE taking on a bad contract? What logic is that?! Edmonton can keep Lucic if they think we’re adding to help them get rid of the contract, like what?

10.) 28 Mar 2019 20:49:53
Settle down he said VAN would receive a 2nd and add a 3rd so they’d be going up a round. I kind like it.

11.) 29 Mar 2019 04:16:02
Van ain’t giving up nothing. I said it once and I’ll say it again, EDM can shove the Lucic contract where the sun don’t shine if they think ANYONE is going to give ANYTHING to take that contract. I don’t care if it’s *upgrading* or whatever. A late first and two seconds (especially when we’re giving up a third for one of those seconds) is not in ANY universe a good deal. Get real.

12.) 29 Mar 2019 05:02:24
Holy buddy if you don’t like the deal than okay but don’t go off if you don’t even get it. The deal I proposed was a 1st and two 2nds. He suggested VAN getting ANOTHER 2nd to make that three 2nds.

VAN should be bad for a couple years to rebuild IMO. There a team that can afford to have a bad contract for a few years. Adding 3 picks in the first two rounds is huge.

13.) 29 Mar 2019 20:53:52
I do get it, you’re the one who isn’t. An above average second (which is what Toronto’s first will be) and two other average 2nd round pics isn’t enough to entice a team to take on Lucic’s contract. Do you understand yet?

Just stop adding the Canucks to your trade proposals because clearly you know nothing about them if you think they’re going to be out of the playoffs for a couple more years. We would’ve been in the playoffs this year if it hadn’t been for injuries, we will most likely make it next year barring another mass injury bug. The Canucks are a lot better than people like to give us credit for. Take your rubbishty picks and shove ‘em.

14.) 29 Mar 2019 21:25:29
Then why in the above comment did you say “a late first and two seconds (especially when we’re giving up a third for one of those seconds) ”? If you would’ve said a late first a three seconds then you would’ve been right. So yeah pipe down.

The Nucks are you going to finish 10 points out. They don’t have a good enough roster to blame missing playoffs on injuries.
Don’t worry I didn’t make the proposal so make you happy. Clearly some other people found in interesting and believable. If you don’t think high picks will help your team then your helpless.



30 Jan 2019 00:54:23
EDM- Russell (1 mil retained)
BOS or CBJ- 2019 2nd, 2019 3rd
-Russell would be a good defensive D that can play up the depth chart if there’s any injuries. He’d be perfect for a playoff push and after being retained he’d make 3 million for 2 more years.

EDM- Talbot, 2019 4th
PHI- Laughton
-Philly needs better goaltending. Instead of overpaying in free agency they can see if Talbot works out and sign him at a little bit of a discount.

EDM- Chiasson, 2019 5th
WAS- Burakovsky
-Rumour is Washington is looking for a veteran top 9 forward for Burakovsky. Who better than a guy that won a cup last year with them and is on pace for 34 goals.

EDM- Rieder, 2020 4th
DAL- Nichushkin
-Similar to the Cogliano Shore trade. Dallas gets a more proven player while Edmonton gets a player that has fallen out of favour but still has potential.

EDM- Petrovic
MIN or COL- 2020 4th
-Petrovic is a UFA at the end of the season. Just a mid pick for extra depth to a playoff bubble team.


1.) 30 Jan 2019 04:13:19
Would love if all those could happen.

2.) 30 Jan 2019 04:43:56
@McJ, I know it’s not very realistic for a team to make 5 deadline deals but do you think those are realistic/ fair?

Those are all playoff teams looking to add at the deadline except Philly but that could be a smart move for them.

3.) 30 Jan 2019 05:18:10
I definitely think Russell could get moved and if we could get a 2nd round pick and get 4m in cap off that would be sweeeet. Also if it’s true Washington is looking for a veteran then that trade would be really nice for oilers even tho we take on cap so idk if that will work out.

4.) 30 Jan 2019 18:34:14
if keith can move atleast 3-4 of the following contracts with taking back minimal salary back i'd call it a huge success:
-Benning, Russell, Petro, Manning, spooner, reider, kassian and talbot.

5.) 30 Jan 2019 19:11:00
@notdelusional, Petrovic, Rieder and Talbot should all be easy to move because there UFA’s. As for Benning and Kassian I actually like them on the team even though there slightly overpaid. Lastly Manning and Spooner are on the team because of a bad GM but yeah I’d love for them to be gone.

6.) 31 Jan 2019 01:43:41
How long is it going to take to climb out of the hole Chia has dug for the oilers? I’m not seeing a ton of reasons to be optimistic for a quick turnaround.



23 Jan 2019 08:45:22
EDM- Laughton
PHI- Talbot, 2019 4th

Philly needs goaltending and they would able to see if Talbot is there guy without investing free agency money on him. Could be a condition on if Talbot resigns as well.

Laughton would be a good young depth player and a replacement for Cave as 3C.




23 Jan 2019 05:41:26
Chiarelli’s going to be gone!


1.) 23 Jan 2019 17:42:04
Sekera 5.5 million for 5 years.
Hall for Larsson.
Lucic 6 million for 7 years.
1st, 2nd for Reinhart.
Yakupov for a 3rd.
Eberle for Strome.
Russell 4 million for 4 years.
Draisaitl 8.5 million for 8 years.
Montoya for a 4th.
Bought out Gryba.
Strome for Spooner.
Caggiula for Manning.
3rd for Petrovic.
Koskinen 4.5 million for 3 years.

All the deals I think Chiarelli overpaid players on, wether it be by a lot or just slightly.
Feel free to either add any I missed or argue one I have on here. Lol.

2.) 23 Jan 2019 17:45:04
Sekera 5.5 million for 5 years.
Hall for Larsson.
Lucic 6 million for 7 years.
1st, 2nd for Reinhart.
Yakupov for a 3rd.
Eberle for Strome.
Russell 4 million for 4 years.
Draisaitl 8.5 million for 8 years.
Montoya for a 4th.
Bought out Gryba.
Strome for Spooner.
Caggiula for Manning.
3rd for Petrovic.
Koskinen 4.5 million for 3 years.

All the deals I think Chiarelli overpaid players on, wether it be by a lot or just slightly. And the trades he lost.
Feel free to either add any I missed or argue one I have on here. Lol.

3.) 23 Jan 2019 18:19:57
he bought out pouliot to right?

also just add in losing talbot for nothing since we have 0 leverage now lol.

4.) 23 Jan 2019 18:57:59
The only thing there that isn't too bad is the draisitl signing.

5.) 23 Jan 2019 22:03:04
Notdelusional yeah he did buy him out which there still paying for but I wasn’t 100% sure if he signed Pouliot to the contract.
Habby2 Draisaitls contract isn’t all that bad I just feel using comparables Chiarelli should’ve been able to sign him closer to 7 maybe 7.5 tops.

6.) 23 Jan 2019 23:32:33
Where is Yakupov now?

7.) 24 Jan 2019 00:29:28
Draisitils deal might look a lot better this time next year after tckachuk marner etc sign their new contracts.

8.) 23 Jan 2019 21:08:58
Drais is good value right now imo, but I think he'll always regret signing McDavid before him - if he signs Drais first, perhaps Drais takes 7.0 and then McDavid gets his 12.

But everything else, my god. And someone on twitter mentioned, if Edmonton keeps picks 16&33 instead of trading for Griffin Reinhart, they get Barzal at 16, and potentially Sebastian Aho at 33 [he went 35]. I mean, regardless of whether they get Aho or not, let's assume that they pick up Barzal at 16, keep Hall/ Eberle, don't sign Lucic or Russell to bloated contracts [I don't think Sekera was Chia's work so I'll leave him in]

Hall - McDavid - Drais
Caggiula - Barzal - Eberle
Pulj - RNH - Yamamoto
Khaira - X - X

Nurse - Klefbom
X - Sekera
X - Benning


They then trade RNH for Faulk + Victor Rask or so, weakening their center depth to gain a mobile blueliner, then sign guys like Robin Lehner [backup], and other depth pieces for cheap for the bottom six. Just imagine that, sure the defence isn't as strong without Larsson or Russell, but you could just pick up cheap third pair guys like Polak to take over Russell's spot, and instead of bringing in Larsson, bring in Faulk for RNH.

Idk man, but this hypothetical lineup looks insane.

9.) 24 Jan 2019 01:12:25
The season Yakupov got traded he was on McDavids line before he got injured. He wasn’t a smart player but he had skill and was a good line mate for McDavid because he could score hence why he was 2nd in points to start that season. The Oilers have no wing depth and he would’ve been a fairly cheap option instead they got a 3rd.




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13 Mar 2019 17:30:37
I feel like the Brassard for Zibanejad+ trade doesn’t get talked about enough. One of the worst trades in that last 5 years I’d say.


1.) 14 Mar 2019 04:26:03
I remember being shocked Ottawa was adding in that deal when it happened but it turned out even worse thought it would.



13 Feb 2019 20:23:19
If the Oilers are still in the playoff race come deadline time, should they be buyers, sellers or stand pat?
IMO I think they should be sellers to get some ammunition for the off season. They have a few UFA’s they should trade.

Chiasson - Big veteran winger. Could get a 3rd+ or a 2nd. 17G 10A 46GP

Rieder - Speedy winger. Could maybe get a 4th. 0G 9A 41GP

Petrovic - Big defensive D. Could maybe get a 3rd. 0G 2A 32GP.


1.) 13 Feb 2019 20:40:22
I also think they need to lose some salary. Russell, Manning and Spooner are 3 contracts that I think they should trade. It would free up 9.35M. They may have to retain on these contracts though.

Russell has 2 years left after this one at 4M. I think he can get a 2nd+.

Manning has 1 year left after this one at 2.25M. I think he has negative value but could be salary going back in a trade.

Spooner has 1 year left after this one at 3.1M. I also think he has negative value but again could be salary going back in a trade.

2.) 13 Feb 2019 20:42:32
I think they should be sellers right now and get a head start on things. I also think there should be about 3 or 4 untouchables on the roster and maybe 1 or 2 prospects. The rest should be moved if possible and add whatever you have to other then these 5 or 6 players or their 1st this year to get rid of lucic and sekera. hope to finish last this year and draft hughes or kakko.

3.) 13 Feb 2019 21:18:12
Habby, I think they just need to cut dead weight then spend futures on some quality players. I believe a buyout for Sekera would cost 3M over 4 years so that would save the Oil 2.5M over the next 2 years.

If they were to trade the 6 players I named they’d save 13.95M. Talbot is another UFA contract I forgot to include. His 4.15M and Sekera’s 2.5M would bring the savings to 20.6M.

After these moves they’d need 2 top 6 wingers, 2 bottom 6 wingers, 1 top 4 D and a backup goalie. And there’s a few cheap options in the AHL.

4.) 13 Feb 2019 23:05:29
@ebs in theory yes that would work but spooner was put on waivers and nobody took him for free. You would have to retain on just about all those you mentioned so then what do you save 7mil? Plus you can only retain so much.

5.) 14 Feb 2019 00:31:18
He wouldn’t be picked up off waivers no but he can be traded. He was traded for a decent middle 6 winger this year. He only has a year left so I don’t think he holds that much negative value. For example Detroit moved back 4 spots in the 1st round plus traded a 2nd to dump Datsyuk’s contract and he was making 7.5M.

6.) 14 Feb 2019 04:04:55
Yeah your right maybe arizona would want him.

7.) 14 Feb 2019 06:47:04
I really don’t see the playoffs as a possibility right now. Everyone not named McDavid should be considered as trade bait. I don’t think they need a rebuild by any means but maybe some known character guys need to be brought in.

8.) 14 Feb 2019 18:15:25
I for one am sick of hearing about the team needing character. I think they need skill. The GM bled them of skill then blame it on character.

9.) 14 Feb 2019 19:29:48
This team has to trade 3 or 4 of their top 7 players in order to bring in players from winning organization and change the losing, me first attitude that the top Oilers players have. Until they do this they will continue to underachieve, lose and be selfishly content with their individual stats at the expense of the teams success. Don't sell now but wait until the draft in order to get players from winning organiztions that can turn this leaderless, soft, selfish and complacent team around.

10.) 15 Feb 2019 00:20:30
I didn’t mean to piss you off Ebs. I was thinking along the lines of what islandjet said, guys with a winning attitude. Obviously skill is what every team is looking for.

11.) 15 Feb 2019 01:30:49
I disagree Islandjet. This team only has 3 good players as far as forwards go. 2 of the 3 have only been on the team for 4 years and have made the playoffs once. The other, RNH, yes has been apart of a losing team for a long time but he does mostly everything right and is far from the problem. The team tried to bring in veteran “winners” Lucic, Brodziak and Chiasson and they haven’t done much to help.

Leafs17 you didn’t piss me off! Lol I like hearing other opinions. You guys definitely aren’t the only ones that think this team needs a knew core/ winners brought in. I just think they need a competent GM to bring in a few quality players to provide secondary scoring and strengthen the depth.

12.) 15 Feb 2019 02:35:42
The core is solid mcdavid draisitl nuge klefbom nurse Larrson but the rest is just over paid or useless or over paid and useless.

13.) 15 Feb 2019 12:45:12
I totally agree Habby. And Larsson is the only one of those guys to come from a different team. Chiarelli did nothing to help the team.
I really think if they can cut some dead weight cap and add a good winger and a solid D they could be a good team. 2 maybe 3 players could make the difference IMO.

14.) 15 Feb 2019 16:03:14
The right 2 or 3 players could make a huge difference. But the oilers need help in so many areas it's going to be difficult to get the guys to fill those holes. imo jones and bear McLeod bouchard all have to be ready soon. Also they need puljujarvi and Yamamoto to take things to the next level. And they might even need a wild card like maskimov or somebody else to show they can make the big club to turn this around quickly. That being said everyone healthy next year and they get on a run they could be a playoff team but to reach anything close to contender status they need to shed a lot of the crap that's taking up the cap and they will have to add some real good pieces to that just to rid themselves of it. its going to be a tough job for the new Gm but not an impossible one. And one thing the new guy will have going for him is he will be in a no lose situation cause their is no way he will be as bad as chirelli.



03 Jul 2018 02:22:46
NYI- Lee
TOR- Kadri.


1.) 03 Jul 2018 03:54:12
Yah not a chance from the leafs. C>W. They’ll use there center depth to win.

2.) 03 Jul 2018 03:56:44
Leafs are planning on using their centre depth to cover up a bit of their blue line holes. Kadri is a massive part of that. Shut down centre with back to back 30+ goal years at $4.5mill. Can’t afford to lose that.

Also Lee obviously has great chemistry with Tavares but wingers for him to play with is not a problem we have. Babcock already said he will have marner on his wing, that was in the pitch they made to him.

And lastly Lee has a year left making $3.75mill and with 40 and 34 goals in the last 2 seasons, he’s going to get a big raise we can’t afford.

3.) 03 Jul 2018 04:19:39
I don’t know why the leafs trade away a center on a great contract. Lee is good also but the leafs keep Kadri.

4.) 03 Jul 2018 05:00:25
Toronto is weak on the left wing was my only thinking and New York could use another centre now obviously. Lol yeah Lee will get a raise but it might not be too much higher than Kadri’s. And I understand center depth is important but a team doesn’t need a 4.5 million dollar 30 goal scorer on the 3rd line when there left wing is weak. Just a thought but also using the money and trade chip on a D would probably make more sense for Toronto.

5.) 03 Jul 2018 05:41:50
Kadri got 4.5 mill after a poor season and some off ice problems. He scored 30 goals twice since. Lee only makes 750k less and put up those 2 massive seasons on that contract. It will be hard to put up 35+ again without tavares obviously, but if he puts up near 30, that’s 105 goals over 3 seasons. He’s not signing for Kadri money lol Kadri wouldn’t sign for Kadri money except he was already locked up when he broke out.

6.) 03 Jul 2018 19:30:04
I disagree with your notion that the Leafs are weak at LW. You clearly don't understand how Babs runs his lines.

7.) 03 Jul 2018 21:03:27
Who do they have on the left wing? And I was thinking Lee might sign around 5.5 but yeah your right he might sign for a bit more than that.



03 Jul 2018 02:09:24
NYI- Lee
CAR- Faulk.


1.) 03 Jul 2018 03:54:30
This is bettet.



06 Jun 2018 03:00:10
Anyone have any comparables for the 4 top D in the draft and are they expected to be top pair D? Bouchard, Hughes, Dobson and Boqvist that is.


1.) 06 Jun 2018 05:30:32
Bouchard kinda reminds me of John Carlson. Not the best skater but gets around effectively and pree solid all around.
Dobson reminds me (and lots) of Alex Pietranelo and even heard a couple say Dougie Hamilton . I haven't seen a ton of Hughes or Boqvist but from what I've read Hughes is comparable to Ghost but should be a bit better defensively once he matures and purely style wise I've heard Brian Leetch. Boqvist is like a Cale Makar+, Also heard "Swedish Torey Krug".

2.) 06 Jun 2018 20:34:17
Hey thanks man. Think any of them fall to 10? Heard Boqvist stock has dropped and the Oil will have the chance to draft him.

3.) 07 Jun 2018 07:15:35
Thing I read suggests Hughes is bottom-4 due to his size, but would be a #1PP catalyst and quarterback. So Tyson Barrie-ish I guess. Sounds to me like Bouchard is the only true D talent (aside from Dahlin, of course) who could possibly make the jump to the NHL next season. Every other prospect, regardless of their talents, sounds to need some seasoning in the AHL or elsewhere.




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19 Apr 2019 02:53:52
Don’t think anyone said he was a 3rd liner actually. But yeah he would play 3C on a lot of teams. Nuge occasionally plays 3C and he’s definitely not one.

I thought Point centred Kucherov? Well I don’t really think Kadri would be playing ahead of Krejci and his 73 points. And I was thinking Granlund was playing center.




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18 Apr 2019 19:23:17
It might not be the right move for Montreal and may be too much. But I was looking and in the past the price to move up in the draft is fairly expensive. To move up 3-5 spots in the late 20’s it’s usually a 3rd. To move up 5-7 spots in the early 20’s- mid teens it’s an early second. So I’m thinking to move up 7 spots from mid teens to top 10 it would be at least a late first.
It all depends if Montreal wants to move on from Drouin or not I’d think. Also what GM’s are seeing in the draft.




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18 Apr 2019 16:44:51
You can add Boston, Chicago, Philly if Giroux is playing C, Vegas, Winnipeg with Hayes, Tampa. And you can argue Calgary, Nashville and probably a few other teams.




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17 Apr 2019 23:15:50
Trending down as in 61, 55 then a 44 point season. I agree with you Leafs17. I just think a 55+ point RD has more value than a second line center.
Get back to me when Kadri gets 45 assist? Does it need to be pointed out forwards typically get more goals than D?




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17 Apr 2019 07:01:55
When both Barrie and Kadri are at there best they put up similar offensive numbers. So how’s that just one season?
Kadri has been trending down for 3 seasons now, so what’s his norm? Maybe he’s just a good 50 point guy. Which Kerfoot will probably be.





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