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19 May 2018 07:09:32
A man could dream
Tampa: Simmonds, Morin, 2nd round pick (or whatever pick needed)
Philly: Katchouck, Raddysh
Carolina: Voracek
Philly: Teravainen (assuming that trade is in their favour, draft picks to even it out)
Future lines
Teravainen - Couturier - Konecny
Lindblom - Patrick - Allison
KATCHOUCK - FROST - RADDYSH
Ratcliffe - Vorobyev - Rubtsov
Provorov - Gostisbehere
Sanheim - Myers
Hagg - 2018 Draft Pick
Hart
Sandstrom
1.) 19 May 2018 13:19:16
Where's giroux.
2.) 19 May 2018 14:31:35
Gone via Free Agency.
3.) 19 May 2018 15:09:34
He still has 4 years left on his contract haha I can see you’re a big flyers fan when you don’t know your captain and best player is still on the team.
4.) 19 May 2018 17:27:06
I would think it was obvious that future lines meant 4-5 years down the road and not now. Even if that wasn't clear I highly doubt a mid first round d-man picked this year would be able to start next season which would be another indication that these lines aren't next season. Same thing with Myers, Hart, Sandstrom, Rubtsov, Ratcliffe and at least a couple if not all 5 of Vorobyev, Allison, Katchouck, Frost and Raddysh. If we're talking about the next couple of years wouldn't you wonder what happened to Gudas, MacDonald and Weise?
5.) 19 May 2018 18:49:23
Future lines could mean next season to hahahaha.
6.) 19 May 2018 22:01:58
I'll happily admit that I could have been more clear and more precise but I just find it weird that somebody would refer to this upcoming season's lines as "future lines. " I guess if we were still in the playoffs it would make sense but the fact that we are eliminated makes it unnecessary to add "future" to this upcoming season's lines. Besides, like I said before, given every other thing about those lines it'd be absolutely stupid to believe these lines were next season's lines.
As unrealistic as the trades are the lineup is a million times more unrealistic for next season, If you are a Flyers fan (I know you're not so I'm not shocked by your response) and you put even minimal thought in it you should realize that the earliest these lines could be is the 2020/ 21 season. If it's a non Flyers fan I would not assume that they know much about our prospects but I would at least expect them to use minimal thought and realize how unrealistic it is for a defensemen selected in the middle of the first round to make the team the following season meaning the earliest it could be is the 2019/ 20 season.
7.) 20 May 2018 00:08:58
Minimal thinking and use of logic would indicate that it isn't.
15 Feb 2018 19:13:52
A Buffalo writer on SB Nation wrote an article about the Flyers and Sabres rumors are made 3 mock trades which I didn't think were too bad
BUF: Kane, Lehner, 2018 second round pick
PHI: Sanheim, Stolarz, Lehtera, 2018 first round pick, 2018 second
BUF: Kane, Johnson
PHI: Sanheim, Lehtera, 2018 first, 2019 conditional third (didn't mention what the condition was, guessing it has to do with re-signing)
BUF: Lehner
PHI: 2018 second round pick and either Stolarz or Sandstrom
Personally, I wouldn't want to give up Sanheim in part of a deal for Kane unless he's already extended. I'd like if the first turns into a second or Buffalo adds a 2019 second if Kane does not re-sign. Not a huge fan of the third trade because Philly is not competing for a cup right now and I don't think upgrading Elliott (or Neuvirth depending who they'd get rid of) next year with Lehner is worth giving up that package. But overall at least in my eyes it's pretty realistic value wise
1.) 16 Feb 2018 01:40:11
From a Buffalo stand the only reason I would give you Kane and Lehner would be because of Sanheim and a 1st.
2.) 16 Feb 2018 02:44:43
All are trash. I think that the whole story is click-bait - at least it'd better be. I don't want cancer Kane anywhere near the Flyers. Lehner is not worth any of our defensive prospects. Lehtera will be buried next season - we have plenty of cap space next year.
04 Feb 2018 02:59:39
I've made 3 Simmonds trades in the past. Replies stated that one of them one far in favour of the Flyers, one trade didn't get enough for him and the other got mixed reviews which I guess is sort of good if i think about but I'll just try some more
PHI: Simmonds (50% retained because I believe Blues can't take his full contract), 3rd round pick
STL: Kostin, Barbashev, conditional second round pick (turns into 2019 First if Blues make it to the Cup)
PHI: Simmonds, 4th round pick
MTL: Galchenyuk
PHI: Simmonds
TOR: Kapanen, 1st round pick
PHI: Simmonds
NSH: Tolvanen, 3rd round pick
As I was typing these they seemed fair but then when I compared all the returns, the value didn't seem equal so I already know some of it it's off. But just curious what you would change to the offers while keeping the base of the trade intact
1.) 04 Feb 2018 06:40:57
First of all, I don’t know why Philly would want to trade Simmonds. They are battling for a playoff spot and he is a very important piece to their team. Anyways, I don’t know enough about the players from St. Louis or Nashville to comment. With age difference considered I don’t think the trade for Galchenyuk is bad but I’d still keep Simmonds for another year and decide what to do then. As a leaf fan I would do that trade. Simmonds is exactly what the the leafs need. Babcock doesn’t seem to care about physicality but when the playoffs start, things get rough. The leafs have a lot of young talent but will get man handled by a team like Boston. I’d rather Toronto play Tampa just because they’re not as physical. I’m guessing you’re a Flyers fan, why do you want to trade Simmonds?
2.) 05 Feb 2018 20:39:08
The flyers would want to trade him because they can't afford a resign in 2 years and they'd get the most value this deadline. Simmonds 2 years left on that sweet contract will draw a bunch of reward.
3.) 06 Feb 2018 23:21:10
The thing about these trades is that they can all be done in the offseason so they can essentially make a playoff push with him this year and trade him in the offseason. I just feel trading him to a team at the deadline could get you more considering the team would be using him for two playoff runs instead of 1. As for why I want to trade him. Personally I think he's overrated by a lot of people. Not too much but the fact that many Flyers fans called Schenn a powerplay specialist yet never said anything remotely close to that regarding Simmonds surprises me considering the amount of his production coming on the powerplay in recent years. Yes he was better than Schenn during their tenures here but they were very similar. The main reason I would want him gone is because he's a free agent next year and he'll be looking for big money. Guys like him don't usually play too well when they reach their mid 30s and I don't want to be the team to pay him all that money. So better to get something than nothing. Not to mention we'll also have to sign some younger guys.
4.) 08 Feb 2018 15:57:26
I get what you're saying, as a Flyers fan as well I love Simmonds and wish we could keep him but my opinion is get paid as much as possible. Kapanen and a 1st or Tolvanen and a 3rd! You won't get that if next year, having three 1st this year could let them go get an Evander Kane or a guy like OEL and Kapanen fills Simms spot.
01 Feb 2018 20:14:42
CGY: Bennett, Brouwer, 2019 1st round pick
PHI: Simmonds
1.) 01 Feb 2018 21:14:25
If I’m philly I’d like a better package than that.
2.) 01 Feb 2018 21:41:12
Simmonds would be a great pick up for Calgary. I actually think it may take a little more than that to get him though.
3.) 01 Feb 2018 21:51:23
C'mon dude. As a Philly fan, I think Simmonds can get more.
18 Jan 2018 18:51:17
PHI: Sanheim, 2nd round pick (becomes a first rounder if Pacioretty scores 0.4 goals per game)
MTL: Pacitoretty
Don't know why exactly there's all these rumors about Montreal wanting to give up basically half their forwards and also seeking defensemen when they've had trouble scoring in recent seasons but decided to take a shot at it anyways
Philly gets a scoring winger who despite his struggles this season has been great in recent seasons and is on a decently cheap contract. Montreal gets a young puck moving defensemen and a decent draft pick which could possibly turn into a good one in this scenario
1.) 18 Jan 2018 19:36:35
haha lol. No from mtl. Make it a first no condition and add a little bit from theyre.
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13 Feb 2018 15:31:59
A source on twitter said the Sabres and Flyers were working on a big deal in which the Flyers are willing to move big prospects. Never heard of the dude (don't even remember his name) but Elliott Friedman did say both teams were actively scouting each other. So maybe there's some truth. Thoughts?
1.) 13 Feb 2018 18:39:05
K. so. who are the Flyers looking at if they are willing to move big prospects?
2.) 13 Feb 2018 19:10:47
I read a long time ago Flyers were interested in Lehner.
But that wouldn't cost big prospects.
E. Kane, or Maybe Reinhart included maybe?
With them in a playoff spot I think they could be very interested in E. Kane.
3.) 13 Feb 2018 19:37:23
@sosa
Maybe ROR? With the season Buffalo is having, i wouldn't at all be surprised. Reinharts possible too. I would have added Lehner but Elliotts been playing well lately.
4.) 13 Feb 2018 20:17:43
TSS. dunno bout ROR? Cause of contract. Buffalo would be silly to let Reinhart go IMO. not yet. to early.
5.) 13 Feb 2018 22:28:03
Elliot is out 5-6 weeks after having a successful core muscle surgery.
6.) 14 Feb 2018 00:50:43
Ya I jus read that.
Lehner then?
What is it with Philly? Is it some kinda Pelle Lindberg curse? Yes Hextall had some good moments, but it seems like since the 90's Philly had been looking for a true number one goalie. I guess kinda like my Habs looking for a number one center.
05 Feb 2018 18:42:54
Apparently Domi is being shopped. What would the asking price be if you're Arizona? What would Philly need to give up to get him? That is if they do have the assets Arizona wants
1.) 05 Feb 2018 21:36:34
I read yesterday that Arizona had let teams know Domi is available.
Now I read today that Arizona GM denies these rumors.
So not sure now. Lol.
2.) 05 Feb 2018 22:17:01
His value has dropped for sure as he has never been as good as he was in his rookie year since. but he's still going to cost. Philly for sure has the assets to make a deal and I think domi would be good there.
3.) 06 Feb 2018 00:53:45
Probably the same as Ottawa got for Lazar.
4.) 06 Feb 2018 06:39:54
Atleast Domi had a good season which was his rookie season. Lazar was a bust since day 1 and has never come close to expectations.
5.) 06 Feb 2018 13:19:04
What are us saying the same ottawa got for lazsr. Domi is a young 22 year old center who has one very good season under his belt one decent last year and a mediocre one this year or bad if you want to be harsh ahah. He will bonce back tho no doubt. He has proven enough to not be compared to Lazar who never came clost to have a.5 stats points in the NHL.
6.) 06 Feb 2018 23:24:49
I would think it’s going to start with a young D either in the NHL or very close and a first rounder. But I don’t know. I’m not overly sold on domi, so I’m not saying that’s what I think he’s worth, I just think that’s what they would be asking.
27 Jan 2018 18:01:09
Not as much a trade proposal as it is a question but although the draft is still far away, I was wondering how high the Flyers would be able to move up
As it stands right now, they'd have around the 25th pick and the 16th pick. Here are just 3 simple offers
1. Pick 16 and pick 25
2. Pick 25, Simmonds and Sanheim
3. Pick 16, Simmonds and Morin
Ignoring which team they're trading with, therefore solely looking at value and not if it makes sense for the team receiving these packages, what's the highest pick you think any one of the packages could get? The only even relatively similar trade I can remember is the Stepan deal last year but it's still pretty different
1.) 27 Jan 2018 21:25:17
Hmmmm. If the Oilers are outside of the top 4/ 5 (Dahlin and one of the very vey good wingers projected to be top line wingers) . I would consider the pick, around like 7-15 or something for one of those packages with Simmonds in it. Especially if they can resign Simmonds. And I've always liked Sanheim, just wish he was a righty then I would probably like him over Benning I think.
2.) 28 Jan 2018 14:05:20
I think YUP is on to something. It will be hard to get one of the top 4. Problem is Simmonds with a year left at a great cap hit won’t be very valuable to a lot of the teams picking that high because here not close to competing. The oilers are an obvious exception because they have a lot of good pieces and should be a playoff team. Having Simmonds to play with mcdavid would be great.
03 Jun 2018 12:37:31
I'll be the first to tell you I overrate my players but boy this is bad. Let's start with the Montreal trade because I believe that's the worst one because it's so simple yet you don't see it. let's break it up. I'll give you Pacioretty for the 22nd pick. Montreal would probably want more but let's pretend it's even at the deadline so he doesn't even have a year left. You're left with the 5th overall pick and Ryan for the 3rs overall pick. Ryan has negative value dude. He's a cap dump. He's one of the most overpaid players in the NHL.
You have to give up assets just to get rid of him. He doesn't close the gap between the 5th and 3rd pick, he widens it. Ottawa adds big time. As for the Arizona trade. Gaborik is another player who is severely overpaid. But let's live in some fantasy world for 2 seconds where Ceci actually cancels out Gaborik (he doesn't) . You actually think Hoffman is worth anything close to the 5th overall pick? Do you not realize how much that pick is worth? Hoffman is a 60 point scorer. As a Flyers fan the first comparable that comes to mind is Brayden Schenn.
You know what he got? A late first round pick and another first round pick (which was projected to be in the mid 20s) to take on Lehtera's contract. Due to age and contrast status, Schenn was probably worth more than Hoffman. Hoffman isn't worth a top 10 pick. Out of all the players you mentioned his biggest comparable is Pacioretty. Do you think Pacioretty is worth a top 10 pick? I don't. You bash Pacioretty for having one year left, Hoffman has 2.
That isn't much more. The fact that you compared Pacioretty to Ryan is laughable. Pacioretty is a 30-40 goal scorer making 4.5 (? ) million. Ryan is a 3rd/ 4th liner making 7.5 (? ) million. Pacioretty has positive value, Ryan has negative value. And Ceci? Worth a mid to late first? Hahahaha. Most Ottawa fans want to get rid of this guy for peanuts. Only time he was worth a first was back in 2012 lmao.
20 May 2018 00:08:58
Minimal thinking and use of logic would indicate that it isn't.
19 May 2018 22:01:58
I'll happily admit that I could have been more clear and more precise but I just find it weird that somebody would refer to this upcoming season's lines as "future lines. " I guess if we were still in the playoffs it would make sense but the fact that we are eliminated makes it unnecessary to add "future" to this upcoming season's lines. Besides, like I said before, given every other thing about those lines it'd be absolutely stupid to believe these lines were next season's lines.
As unrealistic as the trades are the lineup is a million times more unrealistic for next season, If you are a Flyers fan (I know you're not so I'm not shocked by your response) and you put even minimal thought in it you should realize that the earliest these lines could be is the 2020/ 21 season. If it's a non Flyers fan I would not assume that they know much about our prospects but I would at least expect them to use minimal thought and realize how unrealistic it is for a defensemen selected in the middle of the first round to make the team the following season meaning the earliest it could be is the 2019/ 20 season.
19 May 2018 17:27:06
I would think it was obvious that future lines meant 4-5 years down the road and not now. Even if that wasn't clear I highly doubt a mid first round d-man picked this year would be able to start next season which would be another indication that these lines aren't next season. Same thing with Myers, Hart, Sandstrom, Rubtsov, Ratcliffe and at least a couple if not all 5 of Vorobyev, Allison, Katchouck, Frost and Raddysh. If we're talking about the next couple of years wouldn't you wonder what happened to Gudas, MacDonald and Weise?
19 May 2018 14:31:35
Gone via Free Agency.
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