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18 Jun 2022 13:12:49
OTT: Pastrnak
BOS: 7th overall, Gustavsson, Forrmenton, 2022 3rd (originally BOS pick)
1.) 18 Jun 2022 19:04:46
The 7th OA is a start but it isn't nearly enough. Adding a bottom 6 LW an AHL goalie and a 3rd round pick doesn't change that, it still isn't nearly enough.
2.) 18 Jun 2022 19:32:17
The equivalent of a Top-10 1st + Two (2x) 2nds + a 3rd isn't terrible, but I agree with @MoxNix that it won't be enough. I don't think Pastrnak would have Ottawa on his 10-team trade list or waive to go to OTT either. BOS will want the equivalent of 3-4 1st Round Picks to give him up.
3.) 18 Jun 2022 20:21:01
Is he coming with a contract or no. Without a contract this is probably fair value - Formenton is a top 3 player in terms of speed and a nice piece.
With a contract, Pasta would command 2 firsts and a couple very good prospects.
4.) 19 Jun 2022 03:00:46
Formenton a top 3 player?!
He's not even good enough to crack the bottom 6 in Ottawa.
5.) 19 Jun 2022 03:05:12
My mistake, Formenton did crack Ottawa's roster this season.
He's still not a top 6 player (far less top 3) even if he did play on Ottawa's 2nd line. That only happened because Ottawa doesn't have any good LWs other than Brady unless they play Stutzle there instead of at center.
6.) 19 Jun 2022 03:52:39
Formenton’s decent actually. Comparable to Dube but more of a PK Specialist and More Physical. He had 18 Goals in 79 Games and 5 of those were Short Handed! His 44 Takeaways to only 25 Giveaways and 101 Hits are impressive stats as well, but he’s listed at 6’2 and just 162-184lbs depending which site you trust, so he’s on the skinny like a pole side.
7.) 19 Jun 2022 14:31:41
@Moxnix bruh you got to learn to read. Watch how many breakaways he gets and the speed radar on it. He’s faster than McDavid in raw speed.
8.) 19 Jun 2022 14:33:56
@TrevorA he probably would have gotten more goals as well, but needs to develop some finish. He averaged like 3 breakaways a game and mostly short handed ones.
9.) 19 Jun 2022 17:57:30
That's funny if Formenton is so fast and gets all those breakaways how come I never saw it?
I watch a lot of hockey. Over the last few years I've watched Ottawa about as many times as I've watched Toronto. Not once in all those games did I ever notice Formenton yet I noticed Mikheyev in pretty much every Toronto game for his speed and all the breakaways he gets.
10.) 19 Jun 2022 18:05:32
Also if he's faster than McDavid then where was he in the allstars skills competition?
And 3 breakaways per game. LOL, now that I would have noticed for sure!
11.) 19 Jun 2022 22:32:54
@Moxnix take the time to do some research. One simple YouTube search and you can watch him burn most defensemen in the league.
He’s not an all star player yet and hence wasn’t at the all star game.
12.) 19 Jun 2022 22:46:32
Good points - I did not bother to look at Pastrnak's contract status. He a UFA at the end of this year so if the Bruins take a step back, he will be a hot rental commodity. Other factor is if Bergeron retires. If Bergeron retires, I think Bruins go full rebuild around pieces like McAvoy and try to keep Pastrnak. By firing Cassidy, who by what I read appears to favour veterans, that might be a good indicator at the route the Bruins want to go. The pieces they might try to trade could be Marchand and Hall. At 6.1M per, Marchand would be a steal and he probably has a couple of good years left. He would get quite a haul. I don't think the market for Hall will be that enticing. Sending Colin White back to Boston with a 2nd might be enough for Boston. Really all depends if Bergeron retires, if he doesn't, I think Boston will run it back for another go.
29 Nov 2021 12:38:42
OTT: Horvat, Myers
VAN: Chabot
Two teams in need of a shake up. Provides VAN with some cap relief. Provides OTT with a good two way center strong in the dot.
Then:
VAN: Hischier
NJD: Hughes.
1.) 29 Nov 2021 18:21:58
Chabot isn’t getting traded.
2.) 29 Nov 2021 21:31:18
Neither is Hischier.
3.) 30 Nov 2021 02:45:37
No to NJ
4.) 30 Nov 2021 07:46:01
Value wise it’s fair in my opinion but Hischier and Chabot won’t be moved.
5.) 30 Nov 2021 07:46:02
Value wise it’s fair in my opinion but Hischier and Chabot won’t be moved.
6.) 30 Nov 2021 22:40:42
Hard pass from Ottawa.
7.) 28 Jan 2022 16:06:09
Canucks are not dealing for that. No chance.
06 Oct 2021 11:50:15
OTT: Tkachuck, 2022 3rd (they own 3 picks in the 3rd)
CHI: K. Dach, Brett Connolly, Tyler Johnson
Sign and trade. The White injury leaves a hole at center. Johnson and Connolly free required cap space for Tkachuk signing. I tossed the 3rd in as a premium you pay for a center. With time running out on Toews, CHI probably says no, but worth a phone call.
1.) 06 Oct 2021 13:49:27
Tkachuk won’t get traded and I’m 90% sure Chicago doesn’t have the money for this.
Dach can’t stay healthy and at this point is still unproven.
2.) 08 Oct 2021 01:55:23
Tkachuk is the last player Ottawa would consider trading. Melnyk is really cheap though so they might have to trade him eventually but if and when that happens he'll get a better return than this.
3.) 09 Oct 2021 09:24:00
Everyone was telling everyone that Johnson had negative value for years, so since that is apparently a thing and Connolly isn't worth anything either, you're saying Dach gets you Tkachuk and a 3rd? Sure.
07 Sep 2020 22:07:11
OTT: Colin White
NYR: Lias Andersson
Change of address may help both players. Ott may have to add like a 4th or 5th because of White's contract.
1.) 07 Sep 2020 22:32:44
Sens say no, at least white is a nhl player and when the sens young core gains experience and skill whites numbers should look better too. I Just don’t think Andersson has a higher ceiling than white to make this worth it for the sens. The sens are definatley taking all the risk and I just don’t think the reward is worth it.
2.) 08 Sep 2020 16:17:47
I agree with Mertle. White has proved more, he's almost a .5/ ppg player which is a2nd liner to me, lias Anderson's potential would be to get where White's playing at now. But white can still get better. He's only 1 year older.
31 Aug 2020 21:20:25
OTT: Minnesota #9 pick
MIN: The NYI Islanders 1st, #33 in round 2 (by value that almost works out), throw in a 4th or 5th to add a little to convince Minny. Minny needs to stock their prospect pool. Ottawa doesn't need all these picks and winds up with 3 in the top ten.
1.) 31 Aug 2020 22:29:50
Would need more than a late first and a early second to get another top 10 pick, more realistic would be adding a late second or a second next year as it looks like NYI will be in the eastern conference finals making it late.
2.) 01 Sep 2020 00:18:59
Ottawa doesn’t accept that
3.) 01 Sep 2020 03:01:19
I think the talent drops off from#9 to islanders enough, that the prospect at 9 is worth too much quality, for the unsure quantity.
Instead of the other picks, maybe the islanders first plus a good prospect.
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21 Feb 2018 23:13:16
New Jersey: Erik Karlsson, Bobby Ryan @ 50%
Ottawa: Pavel Zacha, Jesper Bratt, Michael McLeod, 2018 1st, 2019 1st
1.) 22 Feb 2018 01:30:25
This is really bad for NJ.
Bobby ryan has negative value.
You would be lucky to get the following with 50% retention on ryan
1st 2018
McLeod
2nd rnd pick.
2.) 22 Feb 2018 03:15:07
No from Jesery apparently Karls0m is worth Bear and a second.
3.) 22 Feb 2018 04:03:24
Colt65 your accesentire of this trade is just as bad as poster.
Karlson is worth a 1st 2018 top prospect good nhl player and more but when you add Bobby ryan then you need to subtract from what your giving.
4.) 22 Feb 2018 05:48:07
@colt, you are delusional like they say and I’ll tell you why: he’s only worth a B prospect and a 2nd if he goes to Edmonton. The same logic doesn’t apply to other teams or fan bases. Come on man, try to keep up.
15 Jan 2018 00:52:16
Ott: Hoffman, Ceci
LA: Gaborik, Clague, Iafallo, 2nd (1st if LA makes it to West Conf. Final).
LA Rosa Gaborik contract, gets Hoffman who could play with Carter when he returns. Ottawa gets rid of the bad contract they will give Ceci before they have a chance to offer it, get a great prospect and someone who may chip in more in bottom 6. And maybe Gaborik has a little gas left in tank.
1.) 16 Jan 2018 02:39:36
Hey Greg I'm going to go on a limb and say that you're a LA fans right?
19 Jun 2022 22:46:32
Good points - I did not bother to look at Pastrnak's contract status. He a UFA at the end of this year so if the Bruins take a step back, he will be a hot rental commodity. Other factor is if Bergeron retires. If Bergeron retires, I think Bruins go full rebuild around pieces like McAvoy and try to keep Pastrnak. By firing Cassidy, who by what I read appears to favour veterans, that might be a good indicator at the route the Bruins want to go. The pieces they might try to trade could be Marchand and Hall. At 6.1M per, Marchand would be a steal and he probably has a couple of good years left. He would get quite a haul. I don't think the market for Hall will be that enticing. Sending Colin White back to Boston with a 2nd might be enough for Boston. Really all depends if Bergeron retires, if he doesn't, I think Boston will run it back for another go.
19 Jun 2022 22:17:24
Kings are in the midst of a youth movement and Iafallo is a part of it. The only reason to trade for Wheeler would be to flip him at the deadline. But I would not give up Iafallo for him.
21 Dec 2021 13:58:27
Late getting back to the party. No way Sens include Sanderson in anything. Regarding Boucher, the key part of when I said no value at this point is "at this point". He hasn't contributed much at BU. Yes, he is a freshman and he is playing against older players. But, everyone knocked the pick saying it was a huge reach. I love the Ottawa amateur scouting staff led by Trent Mann, but like every team they have had their swings and misses. Shane Bowers for one, but he got flipped. Jonny Tychonick is another. Would Arizona have taken him where Ottawa did in the first round? Doubt it. In fact, Arizona may be happy with just Brannstrom and a haul of draft picks.
17 Dec 2021 10:36:05
Boucher has little value at this point. Branstrom, Zaitsev, a 2022 second and top 5 protected 2023 first, which is supposed to be a better draft. Otherwise it moves to 2024.
03 Dec 2021 13:10:01
I think the Leafs should keep Mrazek as a capable backup and insurance policy.