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20 Feb 2019 20:11:44
Carolina - Faulk and Ferland

Winnipeg - Petan. Kulikov and a 3rd and 5th rounder in 2020

Jets need a quarterback for the PP. Kulikov and Faulk have similar contracts


1.) 20 Feb 2019 20:54:28
The Jets don't need either player. They're better off using Petan for Stone or Duchene, if they want to move him.

2.) 20 Feb 2019 21:12:32
I can't see this trade improving the Jets that much.

3.) 20 Feb 2019 21:13:35
It doesn't matter if jets need them or not, if you can get those two players for that pile of crap, the jets will pounce on it.

4.) 20 Feb 2019 21:36:11
Agree. It doesn't make the Jets better. No chance in hell the Jets consider it.

5.) 20 Feb 2019 23:11:03
I agree that if Jets made this trade they could easily flip those two players . for more than what their original package was Imo. Faulk isn’t needed but Ferland could.



14 Feb 2019 17:01:34
Wpg - Roslovic, Poolman, Comrie and Kulikov

Ott - Stone and Ceci

Jets go all in! They can resign Stone and will unfortunatelty lose both Perrault and Myers in the offseason. They can make it work


1.) 14 Feb 2019 17:32:09
Ottawa’s says no :)

2.) 14 Feb 2019 18:31:43
If Winnipeg would be willing to take on B Ryan and his contract, it may entice Ottawa even more

3.) 14 Feb 2019 19:21:57
A big no from the Jets as they give up too much for a rental and Ceci. Rentals don't usually get as much as people think.

4.) 14 Feb 2019 21:25:28
The Jets wouldn't want Ceci at all and they won't be giving up Roslovic and Kulikov for a rental.

5.) 15 Feb 2019 01:20:47
Isn’t Roslovic supposed to be a top line player one day? Or at least a top six? Buyer’s remorse if they don’t win the cup for sure.



12 Feb 2019 20:33:31
NYR - Hayes and McQuaid

Wpg - 2019 1st rounder, Petan, Nogier and Kulikov


1.) 12 Feb 2019 21:32:37
I think it works.

2.) 12 Feb 2019 21:33:47
I like it because the Jets lose Kulikov’s salary for next year and because this will help them this year too.

3.) 12 Feb 2019 22:09:01
Why would Rangers take Kulikov back, makes no sense for them to do that.

4.) 12 Feb 2019 22:14:27
Too much coming from Winnipeg for a couple rentals. No reason to lose Kulikov this year and replace him with a worse defenseman.
Leave out McQuaid, Nogier and Kulikov and change the first to a second and it would be closer. However, I'd only do that if we can't use Petan to get something better.

5.) 12 Feb 2019 22:39:26
Hayes is a good choice for Winnipeg. They need a center and Hayes is available. Just look how good they did last year when they brought in Stastny.

6.) 13 Feb 2019 03:24:41
I hope that Chevy doesn't do this type of deal as it really doesn't improve the Jets that much.

7.) 13 Feb 2019 16:34:20
Jets fans out here like we want top rentals but we don't want to give up anything for them. This Marcus guy clearly doesn't know how trade deadline works and over values jets players.



12 Feb 2019 20:19:00
Cal - Brodie, Frolik and 2rd pick 2019

Phi - Simmonds and Gudas


1.) 12 Feb 2019 22:42:04
No way Calgary makes this trade. Brodie is too valuable and is a huge part of both Calgary’s success and Giordano’s resurgence as an elite defenseman this season.

2.) 13 Feb 2019 04:34:18
Horrible for the flames.



12 Feb 2019 20:13:41
Edm - Lucic, Yamamoto, Talbot

Fla - Hoffmann and Reimer

Basically a cap dump and change of scenery


1.) 12 Feb 2019 20:18:48
That is terrible for Florida. Talbot is no better than Reimer and you can’t dump Lucic’s contract and a decent prospect for Hoffman.

2.) 12 Feb 2019 21:15:14
You seriously think Talbot is no better than Reimer. Too much snow from Toronto has affected your brain. Lucic would be revamped in Florida and Talbot takes over from Luongo next year. He might even get up to 5-goals.

3.) 12 Feb 2019 21:37:58
Talbot is hard to measure. is he good? Like 2 years ago. or is he not? Hoffman could maybe get 40 getting passes from McDavid. Reimer would be good back up. however may have to do to much as the Finnish goalie isn't quite proven. Would adding a 2nd maybe help? From Edmonton.

4.) 12 Feb 2019 21:48:40
Hard, unapologetic pass from Florida. This stinks.

5.) 12 Feb 2019 22:10:24
Oh man oh man this is going to be a no from Florida i'd say.

6.) 12 Feb 2019 22:43:20
Florida is dumping salary to make an attempt to sign Panarin and Bobrovsky. Last thing they want is Lucic and his $6M boat anchor contract.

7.) 12 Feb 2019 23:36:36
Reimer 30 years old 2.81GAA .913 save % career
Talbot 31 years old 2.59GAA .915 save % career

This year Reimer has better #’s. Both goalies were solid back ups for years and each had a couple really good seasons as a starter. Of course Lucic would be revamped, lol.




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29 Jan 2019 20:33:54
Seriously, what would it take for the Jets to get A. Barkov from Panthers? He's what Laine needs as a fellow countryman and excellent centre.

Would a package of Trouba, Roslovic and a high draft pick work??


1.) 29 Jan 2019 20:42:20
Maybe if that high draft pick was 1st overall but winnipeg is too good to get that.

2.) 29 Jan 2019 21:07:14
I can't see any way that Panthers move Barkov.

3.) 29 Jan 2019 21:49:09
I can't see any way that Florida moves Barkov.

4.) 29 Jan 2019 21:54:49
Barkov is elite and the face of Florida, no way they move him.

5.) 29 Jan 2019 23:55:40
It would take a large package that would includ at least 2 good roster players a 2 top prospects.

6.) 30 Jan 2019 02:34:26
It would take way to much.

7.) 30 Jan 2019 18:54:45
Lol, Start with Liane and add from there.

8.) 30 Jan 2019 20:22:03
Scheifele for Barkov? Lol idk Panthers aren't moving Barkov tho.

9.) 01 Feb 2019 00:28:02
Barkov And Matheson for Schifele and Trouba.

10.) 02 Feb 2019 00:07:40
Vbbb, where is the incentive for the Jets to give up the two best players in the deal?

11.) 02 Feb 2019 01:22:07
@joe so trouba is better then barkov in your world?

12.) 02 Feb 2019 17:09:36
@Habby No. Scheifele is easily better than Barkov in the real world. You may not know this, but in general, players scoring at better than a point per game pace are better than ones that don't.

I'd love to hear your convoluted reasoning though as it can't be based on reality.

13.) 02 Feb 2019 19:53:46
You said the jets give up the two best players in the deal no need to put me down for a stupid comment you made. and I'll give you at this point scheifele might be slightly better then barkov but it's real close in the real world bud. Hope that wasn't too convoluted for ya.

14.) 02 Feb 2019 20:51:31
@Habby, so I make a factually true statement, but that is a "stupid" statement according to you.

But you make an ill-informed statement based on your biased opinion and I should be nice and not call you out for being biased?

We're all here to discuss hockey. If you don't want someone to call you out for being biased, don't make statements that reveal you as biased.

15.) 02 Feb 2019 21:44:43
Biased yes I am but I like the jets more then florida so I don't see that being an issue here lol but you clearly said the jets were giving up the two best players in the trade meaning scheifle is better then barkov and trouba is better then barkov. How is that a fact? Like I said I'll give you scheifle is better albeit only slightly but trouba better then barkov? You want to talk about biased look no further then the mirror man.

16.) 03 Feb 2019 00:04:20
Okay, I see what you're saying. However, Barkov is nowhere close to Scheifele. Scheifele is better at everything. Barkov and Trouba would be close as a 1C vs 1/ 2 RHD. That I could see being arguable.

I meant it as the Jets downgrade twice. Scheifele being better than Barkov and Trouba being better than Matheson. That's what I meant by giving up the two best players. There is no incentive for the Jets to downgrade twice.

17.) 03 Feb 2019 03:25:14
Memarcusjoe has probably not watched Barkov that much. He's just as talented as Schiefele offensively and one of the best two players in the league.
I'd say Barkov >= Schiefele.

18.) 03 Feb 2019 03:55:53
Marcus stop tryna beat sround the bush ya nimwad. You said the Jets give up ‘the best two players in the deal’.

Trouba ain’t better than Barkov. Get your hesd outta your a**. Schief may or may not be better than Barkov, its debatable, both are elite first line centers who excel in diff facets of the game.

If you meant that the Jets give up the better forward in the swap and the better defenceman in the swap, then clarify, cause what you said implies that you think that Schief and Trouba are the ‘best players’ in the deal, both better than Barkov.

19.) 03 Feb 2019 04:31:55
Yeah I took it as he meant both were better then barkov I agree though that trouba is better then matheson. I also think barkov is really close to schiefle level. I'd actually give barkov the edge on the defensive side. Both are real good though and on great contracts.

20.) 03 Feb 2019 05:11:23
I see that a couple of the knuckleheads are getting involved now.

Regardless of the semantics that anybody wants to play. Vbbb's trade is a clear and indisputable downgrade for the Jets at both positions. In other words the Jets give up the two best players.

Scheifele is better than Barkov
Trouba is better than Matheson.

Man there are a lot of dense posters here.

21.) 03 Feb 2019 06:00:38
Yeah the trade is slightly in floridas favour. Not by as much as I think you feel though. What's trouba going to want on his new deal? Matheson is signed long term for a lot cheaper then troubas new deal will be. Also schiefle is slightly more expensive then barkov. So it's a dumb suggestion to be even talking about it cause neither team is in a situation to make this deal and it just won't happen. Also unless trouba was signed to a decent contract I don't think florida makes this trade either.

22.) 03 Feb 2019 06:41:19
Yes. There I agree with you Habby. Vbbb's trade makes no sense. Florida would need to add another pretty good piece, to get the Jets attention, otherwise there is no reason to get Scheifele involved.

On one hand, without Scheifele, Florida isn't going to want to make the trade. Then on the other hand, Florida has nothing without Barkov and an add the would make the Jets think of moving Scheifele.

Now in the summer, if Trouba won't sign, a deal around Matheson and Trouba may be worth discussing.

23.) 03 Feb 2019 19:08:44
Barkov is younger and his two way game makes him more valuable then Schifele. Trouba is better then Matheson so that makes up the gap between the two.




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18 Feb 2019 17:51:07
Unfortunately, you have to be prepared to give to get. I can see the Jets prepared to trade their 1st rounder and a combination of Comrie, Petan, Niku, Appleton or Roslovic. Unfortunately, both Petan and Comrie won't get a chance here.

Chevy is a smart GM and won't break the bank for a short-term solution. there's a small window at an opportunity to compete for Lord Stanley. If this is it for the Jets, they will plug holes that they feel they need.




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14 Feb 2019 16:50:54
Too much from the Jets!




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12 Feb 2019 21:15:14
You seriously think Talbot is no better than Reimer. Too much snow from Toronto has affected your brain. Lucic would be revamped in Florida and Talbot takes over from Luongo next year. He might even get up to 5-goals.




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12 Feb 2019 20:07:34
Would love this trade! Reality is they would be okay with 1 of the 2. Lemieux is playing too well to be taken out of lineup. Comrie and Petan won't get a chance with the Jets so give them opportunity elsewhere. Vesalainen has a poor attitude which is why he went to the KHL. Harkins is a full time AHL'er. Someway to work in Kulikov and his contract would even be better.

Go Jets Go.




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06 Feb 2019 16:30:21
I really like this proposal! To me, it makes sense to label Marner as the next Franchise player in Ott and build around him.





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