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13 Oct 2019 00:35:11
Ristolainen for Vesalainen.

Nice and easy. Kinda fills a need for both teams.

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1.) 13 Oct 2019 05:36:12
No thanks from Winnipeg. Ristolainen is not needed at all. The Jets have plenty of bottom pairing defensemen and Risto is not worth a top wing prospect.


2.) 13 Oct 2019 07:19:53
Jets add. While he can be shaky defensively, Risto is a proven and solid top 4 D. Vesalainen is unproven, could be good, could be a bust, unproven’s don’t get top 4 d straight up.


3.) 13 Oct 2019 16:25:51
No Risto is not much more than a cap dump as no team needs a -50 plus/ minus d-man at $5.4 mil a year.


4.) 13 Oct 2019 23:40:22
The more i read about ristolainen from the opinions of everyone on this site the more i'm starting to think ristolainen at 50% retained for pollman might work? .

And that's a big huge question mark.

Thoughts.


 

 

29 Sep 2019 21:26:56
Jake Virtanen for Dal Colle

Pretty straightforward trade made for obvious reasons.

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1.) 30 Sep 2019 00:52:54
NYI add a solid pick obviously not a 1st but something decent.


2.) 30 Sep 2019 01:13:46
Virtanen may be inconsistent, but at least he’s an NHL’er, not to mention his size and speed. Virtanen>>>>>Dal Colle.


3.) 30 Sep 2019 05:06:44
Easy Vertius we know you're a canucks fan, you don't got to make it obvious


4.) 30 Sep 2019 15:27:28
I like Virtanen, wish Habs could get him.


5.) 30 Sep 2019 19:16:25
Looks like a good trade for both teams.


6.) 30 Sep 2019 22:40:17
Me being a Canucks fan has nothing to do with it, my points still stand. Virtanen is an NHL regular - although sometimes inconsistent - who’s coming off his best year in the NHL who’s also a big body that can skate like the wind.

Dal Colle is 23 with 7 pts and 32 games under his belt. The fact that people are even considering these two players as ‘equal’ is more jokeworthy than memarcus’ Clownish over evaluations of Jets players.


7.) 30 Sep 2019 23:53:16
@Vertius. You are unbelievable hypocritical and ironic. Coming from the same guy that thinks two low end prospects of Philadelphia is worth more than a solid contributing nhl player like Kerfoot is, I got to know how you twist this one along with your response to the trade above to make any sense.


8.) 01 Oct 2019 00:05:27
The fact that you think Frost is a ‘low-end prospect’ says everything lmao.


9.) 01 Oct 2019 00:16:30
Yes, he is a low end prospect actually. The fact that you can’t tell the difference between a top end prospect that makes the nhl before 20 vs. a guy that has to get his points playing against kids four to five years younger than him tells me all I need to know.

You still didn’t explain your two completely different positions on these trades. How do you justify what you wrote here compared to what you wrote up above?


10.) 01 Oct 2019 01:01:01
LOL. and the frost debate goes on. when there is a split between parties on judging whether a prospect is top end or not should say enough. we never ever debated if hughes, dahlin, hischier, matthews, mcdavid, ekblad, mckinnon, hall, tavares, stamkos, crosby or ovechkin are top players because it was odvious. Once something isn't odvious then its odvious that its not that special.


11.) 01 Oct 2019 17:42:06
@Craigger,

There’s a difference between Frost and Dahlin, McDavid, MacKinnon etc. I said he was a top prospect, not a franchise prospect.

@HockeyFanatic, it’s funny how you’re demanding answers from me and yet you so blatantly ignore my dismantling of this trash post. Just admit it, you didn’t do any research before posting this. It’s alright, memarcusjoe doesn’t either, you can join the delusional Jets club (:


12.) 01 Oct 2019 20:27:08
If all the franchise players play center or D then they are the #1 C or #1 d so dubbing a non franchise prospect the title of future#1 C or D. those are designated for franchise players.

Guess if teams called
Line 1 franchise line
Line 2 line 1
Line 3 checking line
Line 4 prospect and plugger line

1st pair D franchise D
2nd pair D. Pair 1
3rd pair prospect and pluggerD

Then you could call guys like frost and thomas future 1C as they would be Unfortunetly that's not the case and the franchise guys play on the top line
Sorry if that's the way it is i don't make up the names.


 

 

22 Sep 2019 02:28:42
Detroit: Zadina, Cholowski
Winnipeg: Laine

That’s about what I expect Laine would bring right now. And I really don’t think I’m far off either. You Winnipeg guys can drink the tears in your beers all you want. He sucked last year, but pretending like he didnt. In my owns excel spreadsheet he comes in between 75-100. An unsigned 50 point getter asking asking over ten million just doesn’t bring home the bacon.

HockeyFanatic

1.) 22 Sep 2019 11:38:49
I try to practice patience with the Jets fans that are countering trade proposals here, because I get that the team itself isn't looking to trade Laine to anyone unless the offer is too good to refuse.

But time will tell if/ when Laine is traded and the players/ picks that come back will definitely come as a surprise with how underwhelming the return will be. that's just what happens when you watch a player regress or disappear for half the season. He has upside, but hasn't proven his worth compared to what he expects to be paid.

Add to that his comments in the media, the fortnite addiction, the fact that Laine didn't know how to do his own laundry when he was 18. there's character issues with this kid that any other team would have to address when bringing him into the organization.


2.) 22 Sep 2019 13:38:32
As a Wings fan, I would rather keep Zadina and Cholowski. This deal may be close but we are in a better position with both of those young players than the one player in Laine right now.

So we will pass because in our rebuilding state, not comfortable making this deal at this time.


3.) 22 Sep 2019 15:49:43
Ya I don’t see Liane a good fit in Detroit. I see him a good fit in Carolina first. Maybe Buffalo. Maybe Montreal but as soon as he takes a few games off and is terrible defensively he’d be ripped to shreds by fans and media.


4.) 22 Sep 2019 16:02:33
Those would be decent add ons to a major piece, but on their own get you laughed at. Two prospects that have shown absolutely nothing at the NHL level. Lol

Outside of Larkin, Detroit had nothing even remotely interesting to start a conversation.


5.) 22 Sep 2019 16:54:54
I’d value Zadina and Cholowski over Laine tbh.


 

 

 

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13 Oct 2019 22:34:52
You’re a very argumentative individual aren’t you?

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13 Oct 2019 22:34:18
Columbus traded for Panarin. How did that work out there Craigger? How about Dallas and Zuccarello? Winnipeg and Hayes? So why does Montreal trade anything to risk derail the rebuild for a stab in the dark shot at Hall? Because Hall is going to make them contenders? If Hall doesn’t want to stay in Jersey, what does Montreal have to offer him that makes him want to stay there?

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13 Oct 2019 22:08:31
Why would Jersey need a right handed defense coming back? They have Subban and Vatanen still. That’s why Severson might be available. Kapanen doesn’t make them contenders and Ceci is a cap dump.

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13 Oct 2019 22:04:59
Risto >>>>> Ehlers

Ehlers is a sack of potatoes. He had his fifteen minutes. He was a flash in the pan. If he breaks fifty again I would be surprised. He’s a third line player on a contending team.

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12 Oct 2019 21:36:44
I don’t think Montreal have any interest in Hall unless he agrees to sign first, as stated. But then his trade value increases dramatically. More than what’s offered here. And Montreal won’t want to do that. They can just wait and sign him in the off season.

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