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19 Jun 2017 13:30:39
Leafs get Vegas to select Dumba and Manson. They then trade JVR, Carrick, 2017 and 2018 1st to Vegas for them.

Gives Vegas 2 more 1sts and they could also trade JVR for futures come deadline.

For leaf fans who don't want to give picks, you are getting 2 nhl top 4-6 right hand shots who are both very young.

Itookdonscherry

1.) 19 Jun 2017 13:55:46
Could be argued 2 top 2-6 dmen.


2.) 19 Jun 2017 15:00:45
Don't know how's vegas is going to draft 2 d-men from Anaheim but ok.


3.) 19 Jun 2017 15:22:39
Dumba plays in Minnesota KingsLover, I guess it's try 50% of the kings fan base didn't know about hockey until 2012!


4.) 19 Jun 2017 15:43:21
Can I get some reasons why it's being voted no? If Toronto is giving too much than maybe a 2018 2nd instead of the 1st.


5.) 19 Jun 2017 16:21:40
I wouldn't give Jvr and 2 first for Manson and Dumba. Vegas would have take bad contracts off our hands to get those 3.


6.) 19 Jun 2017 20:25:09
Ok. then a 1st this year, 2nd next year jvr and Carrick. Remember Minny and the the ducks will field impressive offers to get vegas not to pick them. I would love a d unit consisting of
Reilly, Manson
Gardiner, Zaitsev
Dermott/ Rosen, Dumba.


7.) 19 Jun 2017 21:00:49
Why wouldn't you give JVR and a couple 1st for 2 good young dman.
IMO JVR was invisible in the playoffs.


8.) 20 Jun 2017 01:05:41
I'd do it from the leafs perspective. I'd obviously like to pay less, but you got to pay to get young good D. But it's 17th overall this year and you hope a later one next year. I don't think leafs need to push JVR out, but at the same time he's the logical forward to go. One year left at 4.25 is appealing to other teams and he's going to ask for a 6-7 year deal at more than 6mill which makes no sense for the leafs to do with the crop of forwards needing raises in the next 2 years. Carrick has a chance of being a decent nhler but he will be burried if you trade for two better RHd, so send him to give him a chance somewhere else.


9.) 21 Jun 2017 02:08:39
Toronto adds.


 

 

15 May 2017 14:40:56
Toronto gets Tanev

Canucks get 1st round pick 2017, Carrick and Bracco

Toronto gets Manson and Bieksa

Ducks get JVR.

D lines could be

Rielly and Manson
Gardiner and Tanev
Bieksa and Zaitsev.

Itookdonscherry

1.) 15 May 2017 15:16:29
Why Bieska? But I do Manson. Big and plays physical.


2.) 15 May 2017 15:23:05
Ducks would need to dump salary. But in all honesty i don't mind Bieksa with 1 year left at 4 million. I think that makes for a good defendive group.


3.) 15 May 2017 15:54:03
I see all these trades involving Bieksa and I can't see them working out. If the Ducks convince him to waive his no-movement clause for the expansion draft, he will probably ask for assurances that if Vegas does not take him (which they wont) that he won't be traded. Why else would he waive? He has one year left to win a cup. Also the way Toronto treated some of its veterans last year, Bieksa knows he will be sent to the AHL, so he won't waive his NMC to go to the Leafs.

I would absolutely love to see Manson on the Leafs though. Much rather him than Tanev. Definitely pushing for the Leafs to trade JVR for a package involving Manson.


4.) 15 May 2017 17:08:51
DL7. I've been saying exactly what you said for all these Bieksa to Toronto traded now for a few weeks. I agree with you completely.


5.) 15 May 2017 18:16:32
Bieksa is absolutely different than Greening and Laich who i assume are who you are referring to. Bieksa is still a viable NHLer where as the other 2 arent. I am sure for him to waive his no trade clause he would be receiving assurance from a prospective new team that he would not be sent down to the minors. Anaheim will almost certainly be getting out of Bieksas contract as they need to keep lindholm, fowler and vatanen.


6.) 15 May 2017 18:19:14
And why wouldn't Vegas take Bieksa. A 4 million cap hit for 1 season for a team that has to meet a salary floor. The onlyvway they wouldn't take him is if Anaheim has something better to offer like Silferberg who i think they would absolutely want to keep.


7.) 15 May 2017 18:44:48
i liked what i saw from carrick, i'd keep him in toronto.


8.) 15 May 2017 18:54:07
Canucks take that and run.


 

 

15 Apr 2017 16:54:32
Toronto gets Manson, Bieksa, and a pick

Anaheim gets JVR, Carrick and a pick improvement.

Trading Bieksa and Manson allows the ducks to protect Vatanen, Lindholm and Fowler. They would also be able to protect JVR. Toronto gets much needed toughness on the blue line as well as taking on Bieksa's contract. Hopefully next year Kapanen can fill jVRs spot.

Itookdonscherry

1.) 15 Apr 2017 17:59:48
I actually think Manson would be a great fit in Toronto. He would make a nice pairing with Reilly.


2.) 15 Apr 2017 18:24:23
I think Jvr is worth at least equal if not more than Manson, and carrick is a very good young player, Bieksa is literally negative value with a nmc and that contract. it would have to be a pretty good pick coming from anaheim to even that out.


3.) 15 Apr 2017 20:09:22
Agree with big Z.


 

 

26 Feb 2017 19:43:52
Cap trade.....Nash and Klein and picks/prospects to toronto for Laich and Greening.

Reasoning is both ranger players have another year remaining on there contracts totalling almost 11 million. Both leaf contracts expire this year and can be buried in the minors. Frees up cap space for the rangers to ultimately sign Shatty. Both Nash and Kleins contracts would expire before the leafs have to start paying there young players.

Itookdonscherry

1.) 26 Feb 2017 20:16:07
That's literally two of their top players, for two ahl'ers. Don :/ come on man.


2.) 26 Feb 2017 21:08:02
MjC, yeah its a horribke trade, but Klein has played pretty damn bad this year. On of their top players? Not really, lmao. (I get what you mean tho dw)


3.) 26 Feb 2017 21:12:58
Klein has been benched recently and Nash is crippling there cap. They beed to dump salary to sign anyone. If klein is one of there best players they are in trouble.


4.) 26 Feb 2017 21:23:32
Oh yea. the rangers also have to resign zibanejad as well.


5.) 26 Feb 2017 23:37:35
I really would like to see what you guys think Nash at 7.8 mill this year and next is worth. He and Klein are the only remotely movable contracts on the team. And the only teams I can see who can absorb nash's contract are the leafs and the hurricanes as they have the cap room and are somewhat competitive.


6.) 27 Feb 2017 00:01:06
All I'm saying is rangers could get a way better offer. This is horrible return.


7.) 27 Feb 2017 00:56:41
I thought Klein was one of there best D? And I can't remember what his contract is but it's not bad as it? And if you want to use Oil fan logic then it's Nash and Klein for Shattenkirk and they don't get any of them for playoffs. Just a bad trade.


 

 

14 Jan 2017 17:02:48
Read this on the net and I find it very interesting,

Shattenkirk to Tampa

Bishop to St. Louis

UfA for UFA. Fills a need for both teams

Itookdonscherry

1.) 14 Jan 2017 17:50:31
Its interesting but i think St. Louis will say no, but maybe near the deadline when they don't want to lose him for nothing, and try to work out an extension with Big Ben.


2.) 14 Jan 2017 18:06:28
It does but they are both ufas at end of year blues would rather get pieces back like a 1st prospect. Blues just don't have a cup contender this year so a retool try again


3.) 14 Jan 2017 18:15:29
That is really interesting actually


4.) 14 Jan 2017 19:52:51
Yea it's interesting I just have to agree with Colt for once. Since Blues sent contenders why trade for a golaie who is UFA when our can trade Shatty (UFA) for a good prospect or high pick


5.) 14 Jan 2017 23:05:45
Blues should do a complete rebulid.


6.) 15 Jan 2017 02:18:59
Sosa I doubt the owner would be up for that.


7.) 15 Jan 2017 10:12:01
Was jus trying to fire someone else up. for the most part Blues have a good core. i'd try and fix it with what they have
Duchene would be a good fit IMO


8.) 16 Jan 2017 06:22:14
I like duchene but last time we took a supposed #1 center from col we got statsny hugely dissapointed we have 3 young centers with #1 #2 potential in our pipeline. Ivan barbashev, tage thompson jordan kyrou, plus when fabbri is ready. I would like duchene just a little timid to give up assets.


 

 

 

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07 Sep 2017 12:20:23
Galchenyuk, Pacioretty and Juulson to NYI for Tavares and Lee.

Itookdonscherry

1.) 09 Sep 2017 14:05:13
if i'm montreal i don't give that up unless he signs an extention south of 10m. and i don't see tavares signing for less than toews and kane.


 

 

07 Jul 2017 14:55:01
Interested to know what kind of rhd the leafs could get with a package of JVR, Kapanen/Bracco/Leivo and the 2018 1st rounder. What opinions are out there?

Itookdonscherry

1.) 07 Jul 2017 15:56:56
I don't think u can lump Leivo in w Bracco and Kappanen. Their values are higher than his.


2.) 07 Jul 2017 16:51:31
None that are top 2 very few that are young top4. Probably a 30 + top 4 maybee.


3.) 07 Jul 2017 17:21:50
I think leivo will be better then both of them scene him play a lot in years past reminds me of a mark stone underrated type of player.


4.) 08 Jul 2017 01:32:28
Burns or Hedman of course Maybe take the pick out and could get Doughty.


5.) 08 Jul 2017 15:23:56
Would prefer to trade Brown over Kappy.


6.) 08 Jul 2017 15:24:01
JVR, Connor Brown, Travis Dermotte and 2018 1st for Trouba.

JVR+ for Honka and Lethonen

Connor Brown and 2018 protected 1st for Tanev

2nd Rd and Lievo for Mike Green.


7.) 08 Jul 2017 19:24:42
Why get Burns or Hedman when you can get Adam Larsson?


8.) 08 Jul 2017 19:27:47
Why get Doughty when you could get Adam Larsson though?


9.) 09 Jul 2017 01:01:54
Brown is already better then kappy. Kappy won't be that good nhl yes but not a sure top 6.


10.) 12 Jul 2017 23:54:12
You can't get Adam Larsson tho. Nice try.


 

 

26 Apr 2017 18:17:47
Saying it again as I think it's the best option for the leafs.....

JVR and Carrick for Manson and Bieksa plus pick improvement going the leafs way. Ducks get to keep Vatanen, Fowler and Lindholm while Toronto has a top 6 defense of

Reilly Manson
Gardiner Zaitsev
Dermott/Hunwick/Polak Bieksa

Makes leafs tougher on the back end and gives the ducks a top 6 forward they can protect.

Itookdonscherry

1.) 26 Apr 2017 19:51:31
I think if you can convince a team to take Bieksa, Anahiem would have to sweeten the pot a little more, as your doing them a HUGE favor. Not really sure what though.


2.) 26 Apr 2017 21:34:21
I think you're right. Without trading any big assets this would be the way to go for both teams.


3.) 26 Apr 2017 22:34:52
Doesn't Bieksa have a NMC where he would have some control where he wants to go?
I think At this point in his career he would say no to a trade to the Leafs to be honest.
And Leafs could just sign a FA D man for their third pairing or give the ice time to a younger guy.


4.) 26 Apr 2017 23:29:30
Ya, he does have a NMC, so he would have to waive that. He may for Toronto Yup. its becoming more attractive to play there. But who knows.
I also agree, they could just go oit and sign a UFA.


5.) 27 Apr 2017 01:19:41
So Toronto protects Reilly, Manson, Gardiner and Bieksa. Who do they leave unprotected?


 

 

26 Feb 2017 15:57:29
As a leaf fan I wouldn't mind seeing Nash and Klein traded to Toronto. It's about a 10.5 mil cap hit with both contracts expiring after next year. Could you imagine Nash on Matthews left wing? The Rangers could use the cap space and I would imagine be very happy getting the cap space. With this, maybe the leafs could pick up some young assets such as picks or prospects. Would also open the leafs up to trading polar and or hunwick for more picks. What offers could you see having these players traded?

Itookdonscherry

1.) 26 Feb 2017 16:44:52
well to be taking on all that cap leafs better be receiving some other pieces. I don't think Lou is nice enough to anybody favours.


2.) 26 Feb 2017 17:00:18
Maybe in the offseason.


 

 

 

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15 Sep 2017 22:41:21
Anybody who trades for Duchene will regret it. If i was Calgary i WOULD NOT give that for him. He is a good player but Sakic is severely overating him.

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26 Jul 2017 17:12:48
If that's not enough, it explains why duchene hasn't been dealt. He is not worth the desired asking price.

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03 Jul 2017 15:43:25
If JVR gets traded it most definitely will be for help on the backend.

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30 Jun 2017 19:23:53
Wow. just wow. Absolute no from the leafs. Overate players much?

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27 Jun 2017 17:31:12
I wouldn't give that for Duchene.

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