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21 Jun 2017 18:52:44
Flyers: #2 overall pick, Matt Read
Avs: #4 overall pick, Matt Duchene
Flyers are looking to win now with their current core players and have been linked to Duchene in the past. Avs are entering a rebuilding phase and will get their future #1 center in either Patrick or Hischier. I would expect the Flyers at #4 would draft Vilardi who would be a good player further down the road.
1.) 21 Jun 2017 19:08:30
If the Avs are trading Duchene, they are getting a dman for him.
2.) 21 Jun 2017 19:20:09
Two spot difference for Duchene? MAybe #2 straight up for Duchene. But not this,
3.) 21 Jun 2017 21:02:14
Lol never happening.
4.) 21 Jun 2017 21:03:39
31 year old right wing? This is a joke.
5.) 21 Jun 2017 21:50:00
Don't get this crazy talk over Duchene. He's a good player, not a great one, even some on here make it sound like he's elite.
6.) 22 Jun 2017 01:41:31
Lol oh he's only a "good player" but somehow makes team Canada back to back times for Olympics and World Cup? Think you got to be pretty good to make that man.
7.) 24 Jun 2017 20:13:53
You read it right. A GOOD PLAYER! He made team Canada so he's great in the NHl? LMAO Please just stop the nonsense.
8.) 26 Jun 2017 23:21:52
If Sakic took this deal he would be removed from the Hockey Hall of Fame.
18 Jan 2016 00:20:13
If the Flyers are out of a playoff spot by early February:
PHI: Streit
for
EDM: Nikitin, 1st (2016 or 2017?)
This functions as a cap dump and asset trade for the Flyers. They get cap relief a year early, Nikitin's deal expires this year where Streit has another year, and a good pick. This opens up cap space to sign a FA or to bring up one of the young guys (likely Provorov) next year. My reasoning is Coburn was able to get a late 1st round pick, 3rd and a player, So Streit should get a 1st and the Oilers dump a player they don't use. When McDavid comes back from injury and with Streit on their roster, Oilers could make a playoff push this year and next year, so the first would likely be mid round, just a matter of whether to offer this year's pick or next year's.
1.) 18 Jan 2016 05:41:50
Coburn > Streit, and you got a first from a contending team for him. Picks around 25-30. NO chance in hell you get an Oilers first round pick for him. Not to mention its negative for the Oil to take on that extra year. Handicaps them from signing free agents. Oilers don't even consider this.
09 Jan 2016 19:12:26
Flyers: Sam Gagner
Canadiens: Lars Eller
Flyers need a "third" line center with Laughton struggling this year and they are also reluctant to give Gagner a roster spot since returning from injury and despite playing well early in the season. Canadiens also need help on the right wing and Gagner is capable of playing that role. Both players are still only 26 years old, Canadiens gain $300K in cap room.
1.) 09 Jan 2016 21:22:58
Habs pass, this doesn't help them at all. while Eller is best suited as a third line shutdown and PK forward, Gagner isn't even worth dressing.
2.) 09 Jan 2016 21:23:20
Eller isn't exactly lighting it up this year, but would be consider more valuable than ganger. IMO If this deal where to happen, than the Flyers would have to add a pick, probably a 3rd
That being said, the Flyers putting Gagner in the minors was a weird move.
5 pts in 18 games is nothing special, and with his cap hit of 3.2M for this season I understand trying to clear cap space, but the Flyers still have Umberger on the roster who has only produced like 5 or 6 pts in 20 odd games. With his cap hit of 4.6M, would've made more sense to put Umberger on waivers. Hopefully he's involved in the next trade.
3.) 09 Jan 2016 21:25:19
Realistic, good idea.
4.) 09 Jan 2016 21:40:36
Vagner was just waived was he not? So why would Montreal give some thing for him?
5.) 09 Jan 2016 22:49:45
Draft McDavid
It's because no one wanted to take his full salary. In this case they are moving a contract to get Gagner. It wouldn't make sense if it was a draft pick but when it's a one for one swap it makes more sense. It's why Khdobin and MacDonald cleared waivers this year, not bad players just no one wanted to take their contract and teams are calling Anaheim about Khudobin.
6.) 09 Jan 2016 23:05:50
Umberger couldn't be placed on waivers because he has a no movement clause. Laughton could've but wouldn't have cleared enough cap space. So the only option was Gagner. I think it's even considering the past two seasons and how each player performed. The Flyers just don't need another winger at this point in time.
7.) 09 Jan 2016 23:45:57
Eller will still perform in playoffs, if they make it. Why would u want to get a smaller player in return.
8.) 10 Jan 2016 02:32:05
Lindros88
If that's the reason why Umberger is still on the Flyers, then they're screwed.
He most likely can't even be traded.
Out of all the moves Hextall made, Hartnell for Umberger and a 4th is the most questionable. Very little difference in cap for a very big difference in quality of players. I'm sure it served a purpose, and every other trade Hextall made has been a home run IMO.
9.) 10 Jan 2016 17:28:26
Gennoots13
That is the reason he's still in Philly. Whether it's a full no movement I'm not sure. And I completely agree, I hated that trade. Hextall said it was for cap reasons, but it only gave Philly about $125K in space and his contract expires a year earlier, but Hartnell produced much more than RJ. I wish that trade and the JVR trade could be erased from memory.
10.) 10 Jan 2016 19:14:05
What that jvr trade was amazing.
11.) 10 Jan 2016 20:02:56
Lindors88
Or erased form History lol.
09 Jan 2016 16:41:23
Elliot Friedman reported the Blues are interested in Drouin, wondering if they could also make a play for Stamkos. Maybe this could be the foundation of a trade?
Blues: Shattenkirk, Stastny
Lightning: Stamkos, Drouin
Just wondering if this would be reasonable and if the deal is fair or if somebody adds.
1.) 09 Jan 2016 16:55:50
St. L adds big time.
2.) 09 Jan 2016 17:22:58
It's a good starting point. St. Louis adds though.
3.) 09 Jan 2016 18:30:28
Maybe add Fabri and Backes. ?
28 Dec 2015 00:35:55
Continuing a trade I posted earlier. Both trades help in areas of need.
PHI: Brayden Schenn, Luke Schenn ($2.5M + $3.6M)
for
ARI: Mikkel Boedker ($3.75M)
PHI: Michal Neuvirth, Mark Streit ($1.625M + $5.25M)
for
CAL: Jonas Hiller, Kris Russell ($4.5M + $2.6M)
First trade: Flyers get a better goal scorer and move a defenseman, Coyotes get a good LW and a big, physical defender. Flyers clear $2.35M in cap.
Second trade: Flyers get a backup goalie and a younger defenseman, Flames get a consistent, solid starting goalie and a defenseman who can still help them be a contender now. Streit is a better scorer than Russell, but age is an obvious factor. Flyers take on $225K.
Boedker-Giroux-Voracek
Raffl-Couturier-Simmonds
Read-Laughton-Gagner
Umberger-Bellemare-White
*Lecavalier, Vandevelde
Russell-Del Zotto
Medvedev-Gostisbehere
Schultz-Gudas
*Manning
Mason
Hiller.
1.) 28 Dec 2015 01:10:38
Not bad I like it.
2.) 28 Dec 2015 02:11:35
Calgary wouldn't take that trade.
3.) 28 Dec 2015 03:55:24
The way that Neurvith has played this year I would wait before trading him, it's possible for him to emerge as a starting goalie and you can never have to many good goalies. Plus the Flyers already have all the defence they need and need a solid goal scorer.
4.) 29 Dec 2015 06:02:52
The problem with the CGY trade is that Streit is signed for another year at that salary. They can't afford it because they have to resign Gaudreau and Monahan this year. Maybe if PHI retains salary but then why do it?
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23 Jun 2017 05:20:45
Sources saying Arizona is in a financial crisis and needs $ to reach the cap floor. Can Hextall work his magic again and trade MacDonald to Arizona? Assuming a draft pick would be going back to the Flyers, maybe a 4th or 5th?
1.) 23 Jun 2017 07:06:57
Arizona will probably ask for a 3rd or even 2nd.
2.) 23 Jun 2017 08:30:24
You want Callahan, `Zona?
3.) 23 Jun 2017 20:50:37
Well, they just got a bunch of useful money today in Stepan and Hjalmarsson (instead of MacDonald), so I guess they'll be fine.
18 Jan 2016 00:08:20
No. And let me tell you why. Simmonds is better than Eberle because they both can put up similar scoring numbers, but Simmonds is on a MUCH friendlier cap deal. And what Simmonds brings to the Flyers (leadership, physical presence, board play) can't be replaced by any of those players. And I'd rather watch MacDonald play on the blueline than Fayne for the next couple years. Another point is that Sam Gagner has historically put up very similar numbers to Purcell, and he can't make it in the lineup, so I doubt Purcell would. And even with retaining some of the salary, Gagner still has a lower cap hit and his deal also expires this year. Doesn't make much sense for the Flyers.
10 Jan 2016 17:28:26
Gennoots13
That is the reason he's still in Philly. Whether it's a full no movement I'm not sure. And I completely agree, I hated that trade. Hextall said it was for cap reasons, but it only gave Philly about $125K in space and his contract expires a year earlier, but Hartnell produced much more than RJ. I wish that trade and the JVR trade could be erased from memory.
09 Jan 2016 23:05:50
Umberger couldn't be placed on waivers because he has a no movement clause. Laughton could've but wouldn't have cleared enough cap space. So the only option was Gagner. I think it's even considering the past two seasons and how each player performed. The Flyers just don't need another winger at this point in time.
04 Jan 2016 04:19:24
This only happens if the Flyers can move Streit, Schultz, and Lecavalier or buy out Lecavalier. Value is fair I think. Luke Schenn is regarded as one of the better passers on the Flyers blueline and is sound positionally, his only downfall is offensive production and footspeed. @Bud Both Schenns were #5 overall picks and Drouin is putting up identical numbers as Brayden, so what's your argument? You act like Drouin is playing like Ovechkin when he hasn't shown he is any better than Brayden. Just younger. Lightning get a defenseman who is more physical, younger, a good passer, and a MUCH better contract value than Carle.
18 Dec 2015 01:57:19
MacDonald and a 2nd for MacInnis just to clear that up.
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