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09 Sep 2019 07:55:13
What about not Detroit?

Winnipeg trades patrik laine

Columbus trades wennberg, Jenner, and nutivaara.

Columbus gets someone to play with Dubois, who can help sell tickets (would probably have to fire tortorella though, as he'd constantly bench laine for not playing defense).

Winnipeg gets some centre depth and another steady defender.

Monkeyful

1.) 09 Sep 2019 10:51:56
Laine didn't fit in Columbus bcuz of the reason you mention. And Ii n pretty sure Jarmo is not acquiring a star player to fire his star coach Wich he has to do if he gets Laine.


2.) 09 Sep 2019 10:56:09
Wennberg is closer to a contract dump than a useful player, so jenner+nutty isn't close to laine. I.


3.) 09 Sep 2019 14:06:07
Nice troll.

One local rumour for teams that call about Laine is that Chevy is asking for a good, young roster player with some term and 2 firsts/ A prospects.   So, it doesn't sound like Laine will be moved unless or is a pretty good return.

The Jets needs are 2C and top 4 RHD.   Wingers, bottom pairing defenseman and goalies have minimal value to the Jets.  

So, a 3C, 4C and bottom pairing defenseman won't get you a call back.


4.) 09 Sep 2019 14:58:28
I still believe the Jets are not looking to trade Laine at this time unless it a crazy offer that Chevy can't refuse.


5.) 09 Sep 2019 19:41:28
Nutty isn’t a bottom pairing defenceman, def. not on WPG (as you liked to point out with the Nino trade, he'd be the #3 there), he isn’t enough but why exaggerate like that?


6.) 10 Sep 2019 14:33:06
Well top shelf, if we've learned anything from this site, trouba is the best defenseman on the planet and Laine is the best forward on the planet. Worth 4 1sts and top 6 forward and top 4 defenseman.


7.) 10 Sep 2019 14:56:04
Nutti and Morrisey are not that far off. Of course Morrisey is better but not by a massif margin.


 

 

06 Aug 2019 16:28:05
Still don't think leafs trade him, but

Toronto trades marner

Carolina trades slavin and svechnikov.

Monkeyful

1.) 06 Aug 2019 16:38:17
Carolina says no. Marner doesn’t have that kind of value.


2.) 06 Aug 2019 20:59:37
If you switch Slavin with Pesce, Carolina might go for it.


3.) 06 Aug 2019 21:23:09
Vertius. out of curiosity, what type of value do you think Marner has? Top 3-10 winger in the league.


4.) 06 Aug 2019 22:32:06
He’s an elite player for sure, one of the best wingers in the league, but at the end of the day, he’s a winger asking 11+, the value just isn’t there, especially when you look at what’s coming back.

What is Svechnikov? I think it’s fair to say he has a minimum of 70 point potential, right? And let's say Marner hits 90 again (because I’m sorry Vb, but no matter how many times you say it, he ain’t getting 130) that’s a difference of 20 points.

Are you really going to sit there and tell me Slavin is only worth a 20 point forward? Hell, even a 30 point player if Svech caps at 60 points. Your going to tell me Slavin is only worth a 3rd liner?

Get out of here. No player, no matter how ‘elite’ they are, will EVER get these stupid values that fans think they should get, especially not A WINGER ASKING 11+.

Get out of here.


5.) 07 Aug 2019 00:25:45
Is it really safe to assume Svechnikov is a 70 point player though? Sure didn’t look like it last year. I know he’s still he’s young, but Marner has double the points at the same age. Svechnikov has lots to prove before making an assumption like that. Right now I see Svechnikov is a 35 point player, which is about equal the difference between Marner and Slavin.


6.) 07 Aug 2019 02:06:26
Little defensive Vertius? I asked a simple question. I didn't say it was a fair trade did I?


7.) 07 Aug 2019 06:46:29
Defensive? I answered the question. not sure what your on about?


8.) 07 Aug 2019 07:18:25
@HockeyFanatic: I think so. Svechnikov had extremely good underlying numbers last year. Everything about those stats screams breakout in Year 2. And not like his rookie season was bad, he was around 30G, 40 pt, no?


9.) 07 Aug 2019 08:52:20
130-90 is 40 bud. pre school math dog. Svechnikov isn't proven yet to be a 70+ Point player so his value is based on what he could be rather than what he is. Marner is s proven 90 Point player with 100+ potential. I agree that adding Slavin may be too much from carolina but I don’t think it’s that far off. maybe TO adds a decent prospect like bracco or a pic.


10.) 07 Aug 2019 08:54:05
LOL most players don’t even play in the NHL at 22 and he already has a 95 point season behind his back and that’s the dumbest evaluation I’ve heard in my life you really think Arizona will Trade Kessel for Pettersson? Kessel had 80 points and Pettersson had 60 that’s a 20 point difference. And no way Pettersson scores 80 points next year in sorry to say vertius that’s a 20 point difference.

News flash Marner had 69 points 2 years ago 25 point difference. 94+25=119 points that’s just mathematical projection a mathematician would conclude the probability of breaking the 115 mark is inevitable in a linear function assuming his statistical development is indeed a true function while which is obviously an irrational way of thinking but it indeed helps credit my argument. As it is the only logical of predicting his projections unless it’s a blatant guess.


11.) 07 Aug 2019 09:41:25
With Marner wanting 10m x 3yr bridge deal i'd say that's a hard pass from canes


12.) 07 Aug 2019 10:14:50
Wow, ok vbb, Patrick kane had 110 points last year, 76 the year before, with your calculations he'll get 146 points next year? That's very smart. I wish I had your knowledge of math.


13.) 07 Aug 2019 14:35:36
lol! you had me at linear function!


14.) 07 Aug 2019 15:10:35
LOOOOOOL, Vb’s deduction is great, it is SO f’ing funny how salty he gets when Marner is involved. His reactions are pathetically hilarious.


15.) 07 Aug 2019 15:16:31
I love how in your ''functions'' and ''projections'' Marner will never stop developing. Using your very idiotic math, Marner will hit 200 points at one point.
I love how you called your little fact ''irrational'' and then say that it helps your argument. You called your own evidence irrational.
The only thing that backs up your claims is made-up math.
You can't apply the math you have used to a players' development.


16.) 07 Aug 2019 16:28:51
Vertius, read your response and tell me if it sounds like your angry because it does to me. If that is you answering a simple question then you have anger issues.


17.) 07 Aug 2019 17:27:05
Read my response and tell you if I sound angry? Uh. Or I could just tell you that I’m not since, you know, I’m the one who wrote it and I know how I’m feeling.

Just because you don’t like what I said doesn’t mean I’m somehow angry with the world. If anything, you’re the one who seems to have some issues here.


18.) 07 Aug 2019 22:30:48
I said it is an irrational way of thinking but Petterson will never be as good as Matts Sundin let alone Marner.


19.) 08 Aug 2019 03:23:41
That's funny same age of 20. Elias puts up 28goals and 38a tha ts 66 points in 71 games on a lesser team. Marner at 20 puts up 61 points in 77 games and only put up 19 goals. Marner is a winger Patterson is a center. So at this point to say Peterson will never be as good is a crap statement. Especially since Patterson is a center good luck arguing that.


20.) 08 Aug 2019 09:21:08
I’m just saying a function would suggest that not that it is accurate or even relevant the reality is it is almost certain Marner breaks 100 he’s young and he’s trending upwards. He’s going to make 10+ million because he’s a top 3RW in hockey and he deserves it. Pettersson will probably get 15 million on his next contract taking into account the increase in cap.


21.) 08 Aug 2019 09:25:15
Pettersson will never be as good as Sundin let alone Marner? LOL. You already have zero respect from anyone on this site Vb, but man, you just can’t help but dig that hole further.

I stand by what I said before. There is no chance Vb is anything but a troll. There is no way this dude doesn’t come onto this site looking to say stupid sh*t, he’s got to be fishing for reactions because no one can be this clueless.


22.) 09 Aug 2019 17:34:48
You can talk to me when Pettersson out produces Marner.


 

 

16 Jul 2019 18:05:26
Nashville trades Kyle Turris and a 2nd in 2021.

Buffalo trades Rasmus Ristolainen


Risto can eat some if subbans old minutes, and he will get much better defensively in Nashville. Turris can play 2nd C and let Reinhart play with skinner and Eichel.

The 2nd is because turris has 5 years left, and possible decline sooner than later.

Monkeyful

1.) 17 Jul 2019 01:47:37
As much as I think Nashville would like to get rid of Turris contract I think they feel that fabbro is nhl ready and capable of eating top 4 minutes so I say Nashville says no, they’re in more need of scoring than more defence.


2.) 17 Jul 2019 04:40:52
Turris is a huge gamble for any team right now. I don’t think he brings back a top 4 RHD. He might get a new mouth guard or something. He is $6M overpaid. Maybe Turris for Lucic?


3.) 17 Jul 2019 14:05:33
Maybe Turris for Lucic+ Draisalt.


4.) 17 Jul 2019 15:00:41
Yeah and Ristolainen adds more scoring. This is an obvious no from Buffalo.


 

 

17 Jun 2019 19:59:01
Trouba for Trochek and a 2nd in 2019.

Monkeyful

1.) 17 Jun 2019 20:53:35
I would think that would get you in the running.


2.) 17 Jun 2019 21:16:19
I'm tired of trades that offer the Jets a huge drop in skill for Trouba by throwing crumby 2nd round pick or a "B" prospect. If teams want Trouba they will have to step up and give the Jets a very good roster player and not a small, 26 year old, iffy, #2 center because he's on a cheap contract for 3 years. I hope Chevy trades Trouba for a skilled player and not because he comes cheap. Don't underestimate Chevy's ability to play one GM against another to get a great return.


3.) 17 Jun 2019 23:19:01
Give me a signed Trocheck for 3 more years at good value over Trouba anyway.


4.) 18 Jun 2019 01:09:09
‘Get in the running’.

Yeah yall just traded Trouba and Brendan Lemieux for Neal Pionk and a 5th. Have fun, BAHAHAHAHA.


5.) 18 Jun 2019 01:45:21
Jets just traded Trouba to the rangers for pionk and this years 20th. I’m sick of jets fans thinking he’s going to get what you think he is. and there’s your proof.


6.) 18 Jun 2019 02:37:43
When did Trouba become this really high end Dman.? he's good, but no star. reminds me of a younger Jeff Petry. obviously better than Petry, but not a whole bunch.


7.) 18 Jun 2019 03:01:04
Oh man I’m sure glad I didn’t underestimate Chevy’s ability to play one GM against another to get a great return. What a mastermind 😂😆🤣.


8.) 18 Jun 2019 03:14:27
Boy did the Rangers win this trade. I admit I was wrong as I thought Chevy would wait to do the trade closer to the draft. I sure hope Pionk is as good as Chevy thinks he is.


9.) 18 Jun 2019 03:30:23
Islandjet someone like pionk? Haha.


10.) 18 Jun 2019 05:17:16
Atleast you admit it Islandjet. Atleast the Jets still have a great team.


11.) 18 Jun 2019 11:10:59
Well islandjet, it takes a big man to admit he was wrong. Kudos. You could have taken the easy way out and created a new account — maybe that’s what happened to memarcus since we have yet to hear from him (maybe he’s locked himself in his safe space) .

Don’t worry memarcus! At least we don’t know who you are in real life. You don’t have to fret about being ridiculed in person.


 

 

07 Jun 2019 19:47:59
Trouba, elhers and a 2nd in 2020 for hall and severson.

Monkeyful

1.) 07 Jun 2019 20:16:46
No thanks. Too much coming from Winnipeg and Hall will want way too much money after next year.


2.) 07 Jun 2019 20:25:13
Not a good trade for the Jets.


3.) 07 Jun 2019 20:31:46
I don’t think it’s a bad offer tbh.


4.) 07 Jun 2019 22:02:22
I think that is pretty close tbh. jets add something small maybe.


5.) 07 Jun 2019 22:31:00
If hall signs an extension, if not then it's not worth it for Winnipeg.


6.) 07 Jun 2019 23:21:35
This is pretty good, Hall>>Trouba all things considered, but Ehlers>Severson. A 2nd seems pree good as in addin.


 

 

 

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14 Sep 2019 15:53:45
Larkin >> connor

The only reason to trade connor is to shed salary, which they don't need yet, also not sure they save much on this deal.

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12 Sep 2019 18:17:51
Dubois plays centre, without him, they have no 1c. Getting marner would be to play with Dubois.

Also Jones is worth marner.

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12 Sep 2019 17:38:08
I don't believe tkachuk is asking 11 million, I also don't believe he played miles above his head.

In terms of value, it's pretty fair, 2c, top 4d but maybe the pick should be a2nd or 1st (like with laine) .

The problem is Calgary doesn't have those needs. They have backlund at 2c, who does a nice job there, as a shutdown centre and on the blue line, risto would be a replacement for brodie.

I think they would prefer skinner/ middlestadt as primary pieces returning.

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07 Sep 2019 17:51:50
Isn't laine coming off a back injury?

I think the ask for laine won't match an offer and he's in Winnipeg for now.

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07 Sep 2019 15:10:40
I like your list, but disagree. My list would be:

1. McAvoy
2. Provorov
3. Werenski

Although to be fair, we're talking about 3 defensemen anyone would love on their team, who are all young, excellent, and going to be 1st liners for a long time.

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