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14 Feb 2018 18:09:59
Oilers need a right hand damn who can play power play. Suggestions:
Oilers: RNH + Benning (maybe + 3rd Rd Pk)
Wild: Coyle + Spurgeon or Dumba
RNH would be a perfect for the wild. Their current centremen: Koivu and stall (both older and trending down, especially koivu) and coyle who is a good 3rd line centre, and EK who is young.
Spurgeon would look great with Sekera. Coyle 3rd centerman after McDavid and Drai.
Another option:
Oilers: Klefbom or RNH
Avs: Barrie
I believe that Avs have some good young right handed dman coming up. Barrie could be on his way out. They could use Klefbom on the left side. Or maybe they could use RNH on the second line after Macinnon. I prefer the Klefbom and Barrie’s swap.
1.) 14 Feb 2018 21:16:08
Sorry, Trade 1 Way OTL. None of those Wild players are an upgrade for Edmonton. Benning + 3rd for ONE of those players is probably more realistic.
Trade 2, No RNH but Klefbom for Barrie sounds realistic if the Av's put a high pick in to offset Klefbom's longer term cap friendly contract. or perhaps Edm would be content if the Av's ate 1.4M of Barrie's salary so they cost the same and edm takes the asset loss of the extra years of cap friendly service to fill the RHD need.
2.) 14 Feb 2018 22:01:00
So Spurgeon or Dumba are not an upgrade on Benning? Go and search the players playing time and stats, and then decide. Oilers need a power play dman.
3.) 14 Feb 2018 22:19:53
Pretty good. I think the RNH for Barrie one is pretty close. I think oilers might have to add a bit to klefbom just based on recent play, I think his value has taken a bit of a hit. Although 5 more years of control on klefbom at 4.1 mill vs 2 more years at 5.5 for Barrie may be enough to balance that out.
4.) 14 Feb 2018 22:24:58
You’re ridiculous FT4A. So Carrick plus a 3rd gets a top 4 dman or top 9 power forward? Or does it only work for Oiler players? How are these players not an upgrade for Edmonton? Please explain.
5.) 14 Feb 2018 22:30:40
Both defenseman are better offensively than anyone on the Oiler roster. Spurgeon or Dumba would fit nice on the Oiler blue line. Get your head out of your ass and realize they are bottom feeders in need for a change. A few very talented players, yes. After that you don’t have much of an argument.
6.) 14 Feb 2018 23:14:57
Jeez leafs why so angry
But ya if Edmonton could trade for Dumba that would be lit.
7.) 14 Feb 2018 23:20:38
I don’t think the aves would be interested in RNH, they have McKinnon and next year Jost. I’d say they have a pretty good 1-2 punch now and Hopkins is expensive 3rd liner. Value wise it’s pretty good just don’t see the need for aves. Also I’m positive I’m not the only one thinking this but LBRN needs to get a clue! You’re such a oilers homer it’s crazy.
I understand you’re a oilers fan and no one wants to see their team lose a trade but your opinions are just ridiculous! You need to stop watching hockey if you think that Benning and a 3rd will be you dumba or Spurgeon.
8.) 14 Feb 2018 23:30:34
RNH > Coyle
Benning + 3rd.
9.) 14 Feb 2018 23:31:00
Personally I think the left hand versus right hand defenseman argument is overrated one of the best defensive teams in NHL history had 5 left-handed defenseman in one right handed guy who was a spare part.
10.) 14 Feb 2018 23:33:38
Benning + pick / add for any ONE of the Wild players mentioned is a reasonable parallel trade. All those wild players are pretty average at best, but so is Benning.
Unfortunately as soon as you try to name RNH in the trade the VETO / Abort button lights up and gets hit. You will have to name a different player in the trade other than him.
As explained in a previous post that it seems mr/ ms Leafs17 for some reason still can't grasp the concept of is he is a core piece that plays hard minutes in all the difficult situations, is long term signed, is a fan favorite, is only 24 with 441 games of experience already.
Most importantly. The GM would probably lose his job trading him as he is on VERY thin ice over the Eberle asset liquidation last year. The teammates, GM, and coaching staff are all on record emphasizing how valuable RNH is to the team so throwing him in for a few average players back won't cut it.
It is doubtful he will get traded unless an elite #1 D-man is dangled of which Barrie, Spergeon, and Dumba are definitely not.
Trade 2
Oilers with the big $$ signings last year can't take on a Salary increase next season, so Barrie retention, or 2nd roster player (s) to offset the salary difference would need to be in the Klefbom for Barrie deal. This does sound like a realistic trade that might need a minor tweak.
I agree that Klefbom's poor play has diminished his value.
11.) 14 Feb 2018 23:44:28
Sorry McJ, FT4A has been trolling for too long. This is the same guy that values every oilers player above and beyond anyone in the league. Hopkins and Benning would require Karlsson just to get the conversation started.
12.) 15 Feb 2018 04:01:20
Who is FT4A? Leafs17, you got the wrong guy. How am I over valuing the oilers in this trade?
Plus, what the hell do u mean with your comments about karlson? I’m sorry man but you are making no sense here.
13.) 15 Feb 2018 04:14:32
Spurgeon and Dumba not being an upgrade on Benning is officially the dumbest argument of the week! Unbelievable. And yes leafs17, this is the same guy who said only way RNH could end up in Ottawa is if it was for Karlsson!
14.) 15 Feb 2018 05:12:23
FT4A/ let's be real now lost all credibility with that nonsense last year when Karlsson was a top 5 player in the league. Now he’s just making sure the credibility never has a chance to return.
15.) 15 Feb 2018 07:15:34
Sorry Oil fan, my comments were towards Let’s Be Real Now (FT4A) . Your proposals were ok. FT4A changed his name but still spews the same garbage. The veto comment is exactly the way FT4A would speak.
16.) 15 Feb 2018 14:11:54
Oh! Thanks for the clarification. Appreciate it!
17.) 15 Feb 2018 16:11:29
Not sure what an FT4A is. ? Is that special code for something?
Sorry if there is a disagreement from the Eastern biased peanut gallery over this, but realistically that trade won't go. Benning + pick for one of those players is a decent realistic trade. Trade listed improves Minni, but Edmonton loses big time overall.
If RNH is going to be moved, I suspect it would be a 2 or 3 asset by Edmonton for 1 asset back type deal netting a #1 Dman or 1st line player to compliment McD. Not for 2nd pair / 3rd liners. Edmonton already is loaded with those types of players.
18.) 15 Feb 2018 20:08:42
Wild and avalanche say no.
19.) 15 Feb 2018 23:28:54
So how is coyle/ Dumba/ Spurgeon not worth more then rnh they actually play for a winning team and have staal granlund koivu sucker suter praise nino (not attempting that last name) and still put up good stats. Edmonton sucks they have Mcdavid and drai but drai is way overrated imo so keep your garbage nobody wants em you will draft high again and lose because you’re a horribly managed team.
20.) 16 Feb 2018 00:14:31
FT4A is the name you used to use and aren’t man enough to admit it. You know this big guy. And yes, madeindade, chirello will just f it up anyway. Sit back and watch the show.
14 Feb 2018 17:01:14
What about this trade in the summer?
Oilers: Lucic (5years x 6m)
Send: Ryan (4 Years x 7m)
Lucic is more durable and physical, but Ryan if healthy could fit well on McDavid’s wing. That way too, Oilers could bring back maroon. There is no room for both maroon and Lucic on the oilers. Maroon will be cheaper and could play with McDavid. Sens save a 1 m. Sens seem like they want to save as much money as possible to resign karlson and save money for the owner.
1.) 14 Feb 2018 17:26:51
Actually pretty interesting. Not sure on all the NTC/ NMC and stuff. Also not sure on Senators use or want for lucic but if they’re blowing it up and going really young he could be good for leadership and protection while a new core Linda takes over.
Ryan isn’t a fast player to keep up with mcdavid on the rush for sure, but once mcdavid gets the zone and the skill takes over from speed, Ryan is definitely skilled enough.
Haven’t seen a Ryan or lucic deal that made much sense before, so good post for sure.
2.) 14 Feb 2018 17:28:38
Not a horrible suggestion, but it's Edmonton that's skirting the cap, so Ottawa retention would be needed to make the deal work.
The big hurdle would be both players have some kind of NTC and Lucic has a buyout proof contract that could hinder Ottawa's decision to attain his services.
3.) 14 Feb 2018 18:05:27
Umm let's be real now no ottawa doesn't because he has a year less.
4.) 14 Feb 2018 18:38:15
Horrible trade.
5.) 14 Feb 2018 19:29:08
Horrible for what team? And why?
6.) 14 Feb 2018 23:15:23
That would be lit.
7.) 14 Feb 2018 23:16:26
And this isn’t horrible by all means.
8.) 15 Feb 2018 15:42:46
for Ottawa. Lucic will leave after this year because he wants to end his career in the west. SO Ottawa would lose Ryan for nothing. It's not always about the $.
9.) 15 Feb 2018 16:46:05
I'd want Lucic to defend my team instead . lol.
10.) 15 Feb 2018 17:02:14
IMO, wouldn't you want someone who will stay on with the organization. I know one of the Sens goals is to offload some big salaries but I think this is a bit different.
11.) 15 Feb 2018 20:28:11
With ryans contract going up to 7.5 in the last 4 years, 30 million still remains
Lucic 5 years left goes down. 7,6,4,5,4 i believe leaving 26 million left on his deal and an extra year
Tbh with melnyk giving dorion the okay to cut salary wherever he can, i see this as something the senators would have to consider at this point.
12.) 15 Feb 2018 20:46:23
Hawks25, if this is true then i agree with you 100%. Where are you hearing this? The lucic demands?
13.) 16 Feb 2018 17:57:10
Not sure. I thought I heard a commentator mention that when he was traded to EDM. I could be wrong though. I don't hate Lucic except for playing against him . what a beast. You guys could be right. Maybe I would hate Ottawa lose both if this would happen. That's what I meant originally. Thanks for your opinions.
14.) 17 Feb 2018 09:40:06
Boro. lucic. macormick. harpur. that would be an intimidating team to play against.
I also see lucic benefiting from bouchers systen. i like this trade.
16 Feb 2018 21:58:27
Ottawa adds I think a 2nd rd pick.
16 Feb 2018 21:59:45
Jets won’t get maroon for 3rd or 4th rd pick. If they don’t need him, there are others teams that do!
16 Feb 2018 21:57:44
I wish from the oilers side, but never in a million years.
16 Feb 2018 21:56:55
Montreal would jump on that trade in a second.
16 Feb 2018 21:25:15
Ryan has 4 Years, while Lucic has 5 Years. Lucic is 1 million cheaper and more durable.