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23 Feb 2018 03:22:03
To edm: Bobby ryan
To ott: Milan lucic, anton slepyshev
Two bad contracts of former top six forwards get switched but lucic's contract is a bit worse so Ottawa gets some future potential! And Edmonton could resurrect Bobby ryan playing with Connor or leon! Ottawa gets more size and grit.
1.) 23 Feb 2018 04:33:12
I think a lot of people underestimate Ryan. He isn't a bad player. No from Ottawa.
2.) 23 Feb 2018 04:40:54
They sure do! That's why I would want him! But I also see that the senators look at Ryan's contract as the worst one they have just as the oilers do with lucic. But slepyshev is going to come up and be a very good player.
3.) 23 Feb 2018 05:23:30
Ya no from oil, more risk with Ryan unfortunately even tho he is a good player. Guy can’t stay healthy. Lucic for ryan can be a real possibility if Ottawa does clear ship lucic would be great leadership for them.
4.) 23 Feb 2018 05:44:08
Sense decline because Atleast Ryan has some skill and can skate. Lucic is sluggish and not made for today’s game plus Slepyshev is worth a 4-5th round pick so that’s not enough of a difference.
5.) 23 Feb 2018 06:10:36
We don't need Leadership McJesus. Bobby is a great leader anyway.
6.) 23 Feb 2018 12:59:06
@Hoff, if sens blow it up as much as they may, and they have 8-10 rookies playing next year like the leafs did a last season, lucic could be better for that situation than Ryan. My reason is that the leafs went out and brought in guys like Moore, Marleau, Boyle to have these kids surrounded by guys who have played hundredss of playoff games combined. They also signed Matt martin to “keep the flys of the kids†as Babcock called it. He allowed nylander, marner and matthews to come in and play with confidnce and a bit more fearless than they might if he wasn’t there. Lucic brings both of those things in one package. Ryan is more skilled by a mile, but a guy who’s won a cup, made playoff runs with 3 different teams and can stick up for his team mates would be better for kids to have around than a great stick handler who plays a little soft and spends a lot of time on the IR.
7.) 23 Feb 2018 13:34:58
Lucic has a NTC and would more than likely decline going to Ottawa for a rebuild. The only places I can realistically see Lucic going as a possibility is back to Boston or LA. To Boston for bad contract Belesky and a pick or something like that. He would fit right back in with Boston in my opinion. But ya, he wouldn't waive to go to Ottawa.
8.) 23 Feb 2018 15:24:49
You’re probably right Yup. I was just saying how he could be useful in a city like Ottawa at this point, not that he would want to do that.
9.) 23 Feb 2018 15:58:11
Ryan's hurt an awful lot. Maybe he should just be on LTIR forever like T. O. pulled with Lupul?
10.) 23 Feb 2018 18:13:57
Ottawa doesn't want lucic, the sens cap dump is more skilled than the oilers cap dump. its not a huge difference but oilers cap dump has an even worse contract, i would take ryan over lucic any day of the week injuries and all. if the sens could retain on ryan it could possibly even result in positive value, i mean bobby ryan at 3.75 million is reasonable.
11.) 23 Feb 2018 20:49:14
I posted the exact trade proposal a couple weeks ago yup. Lucic for Beleskey and a pick I believe. I must have missed your reply that it was a good post and that you agreed with me.
12.) 24 Feb 2018 20:08:51
I agree with Hoff68. Ryan is a good player but costs a lot of money. He also comes back too soon as most of you say he should get better or completely heeled. Can't hide the fact that he is a team player though. He never blames his teammates. I also agree that 1 for 1 would be better at this time.
12 Jan 2018 12:40:03
To buffalo: drake cagiulla, Johan auvitu, 6th rd pick
To edmonton: Sam reinhart
1.) 12 Jan 2018 12:52:22
Id rather keep Cagguila if i'm Edmonton
2.) 12 Jan 2018 14:54:01
No from Buffalo. No way they give up the second overall pick this early, especially for spare parts and drake.
3.) 12 Jan 2018 15:07:51
What flamers? Edm would take that for sure.
4.) 12 Jan 2018 15:24:53
I know but Reinhart hasn't really done anything special.
5.) 12 Jan 2018 16:25:05
I'm thinking that reinhart had good chem with mcdavid in world juniors. But his value has dropped. May as well not wait on a yakupov type return on him.
6.) 12 Jan 2018 17:10:02
Reinhart has been pretty brutal but I’d probs have him over Caggiula for sure, and topshelf It really doesn’t matter at all where he was drafted that’s very irrelevant.
7.) 12 Jan 2018 17:53:14
I wouldn't give up in Reinhart just yet. I think he needs to add a little more strength, but his hockey IQ is extremely high. I'm hoping he's a late bloomer. I think he needs to be in a different situation, But I think he can carve out a good long career as a solid 2nd line Center
Not jus because he is from there, but Vancouver seems like a good fit?
8.) 12 Jan 2018 19:07:33
Why has Reinhart ‘done nothing’ and ‘been brutal’? Lol I get he hasn’t been a star but had 83 in his first 150 NHL games, Drasiatl had 105in his first 150 and played with the best player in the world for half of it. I’m not saying he’s as good, bear as good or ever going to be as good, but you oilers fans think Draisaitl is incredible and happily pay him 8.5 mill and this kid isn’t that far behind his pace to start a career and he’s garbage? Lol give me a break.
9.) 12 Jan 2018 21:19:42
But Jim, you value players based I. Where they were drafted. How can you defend that. Where he was drafted you should be saying he's a complete bust because he doesn't put up 60+ points a year.
10.) 12 Jan 2018 22:24:28
Draisatl was the very next pick and only had 20 more pts through 150 games. So was draisatl a bust after 150 games? Or did you give him time to prove his worth and he did? Like I said, I’m not saying Reinhart won’t be a bust. He may be, he may never live up to his draft spot, but draisatl was considered a star, and reinharys a complete bust for 20 pts difference by age 21 when they were a pick apart? No, that’s dumb.
11.) 12 Jan 2018 22:30:08
I’m just saying it’s really early to say that. Nate mackinnon, niclolaj ehlers and David Pasternak all had between 97 and 103 pts through their first 150 games. reinhart has 82! Those guys were picked 1st, 9th and 25th overall, and are all stars a cpl years later.
12.) 15 Jan 2018 13:12:13
I’d take that deal from oilers side all day long.
13.) 20 Jan 2018 07:07:12
You’re joking right?
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23 Feb 2018 04:40:54
They sure do! That's why I would want him! But I also see that the senators look at Ryan's contract as the worst one they have just as the oilers do with lucic. But slepyshev is going to come up and be a very good player.
12 Jan 2018 16:25:05
I'm thinking that reinhart had good chem with mcdavid in world juniors. But his value has dropped. May as well not wait on a yakupov type return on him.
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