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03 Jul 2015 01:38:45
IF Leafs are clearing house these two deals make sense

Deal #1

Tor: G Gibson, D Theodore, F Ritchie, 1st in 2016, 3rd in 2017(replace the third they lose cause of Babcock)

Ana: LW van Reimsdyk, Phanuef(1.5 retained), D Granberg, 4th round pick in 2016

The Ducks do it cause it gives them the last two pieces they need for a Stanley cup run they can either use JVR as Belesky's replacement or add depth to there lineup by pairing him with Kesler to make an amazing second line. JVR has great value obviously because of his size, skill, goal scoring ability, and great contract. And though the leafs retain 1.5 million on Phanuefs contract he gives the ducks a #2 d-man to pair with eitrr Vatanen or Fowler. Though it sucks to retain money from Phanuefs contract its worth it to add a future #1 goalie a young skillful D-man and a big skillfull prospect in Ritchie who can complement our smaller forwards great. Tell me what you think about it seems like it could happen since Anahiem has been rumored to be interested in both on many occasions.

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1.) 03 Jul 2015 09:41:55
Hahaha leaf fan why would anaheim do This?


2.) 03 Jul 2015 10:05:21
Maybe you don't agree but I think he covered the why in great detail. Read it again Montreal fan


3.) 03 Jul 2015 11:30:50
Sooo, why would the Ducks do this?


4.) 03 Jul 2015 12:44:10
Great break down, I like it as a leafs fan


5.) 03 Jul 2015 13:16:51
That's Anaheims future right there pretty much.JVR and Phaneuf with salary retained is defiantly a great package but ducks would have to say no.


6.) 03 Jul 2015 13:32:45
Phaneuf >= Theodore, 3rd
JVR =


7.) 03 jul 2015 14:01:37
lol why would the ducks do this cause the want to win now not when richie and the first are ready and for that reason you all said kessel would never get traded because you are all leaf haters on here think about what the ducks are getting they want to win now


8.) 03 Jul 2015 15:15:09
No from both sides, Anaheim loses too much and Leafs would have almost a 3 mil handicap for 7 years, then a 1.25 mil handicap for a year. Can't do it.


9.) 03 Jul 2015 15:16:54
Why would the ducks give up 3 great prospects plus a 1st for an overpaid #2/3 blue liner and JVR?


10.) 03 Jul 2015 15:55:56
i agree ducks want to win now but another thing to look at is how big of cap trouble would be in next offseason. They're adding nearly 10mil in salary and still have to sign Haglien & Silfverberg. I know they 18mil in cap space but that would go down real quick. They would probably lose Kesler and possibly Anderson for nothing with contracts coming up with the likes of Kesler, Anderson, Gibson, Vatanen, Lindholm, Despres & Rakell. Its a great trade value wise and JVR and Phaneuf are still kind of young so they could help out in the future it's just not worth it for the ducks at the this point.


11.) 03 Jul 2015 18:43:34
i like the trade but how about ducks take away the 3rd and leafs add a 3rd and possibly a C+ - B- prospect then I think it would be fair value. But very solid trade proposal though works for both teams


12.) 04 Jul 2015 06:32:49
@Dawson67 We all thought and knew Kessel was being traded! What we "Leaf haters" were preaching is that you Leaf fans thought he was going to fetch WAY more than he is worth. We were laughing at all your Kessel proposals because they were rediculous. this one favors the Leafs big time as well, yes Ducks want to win ow, but this is giving up way too much of their youthful great prospects. Not a chance Ducks do this.


13.) 04 Jul 2015 15:27:01
I am not saying this would/could happen but Anaheim is in win now mode. Phaneuf and JVR could be the vital pieces for a serious cup run.


14.) 04 Jul 2015 18:17:34
the ducks do this so they go for the Cup eh! the Leafs do this so they rebuild capish! or do u know hockey? LOL eh! just because you don't like phaneuf don't mean the ducks don't eh LOL they could very well do a deal like that eh! could very well put em over the top and become Cup Favorites eh! . I know~~ they aren't going to your fav team eh! LOL~~ eh!


 

 

28 Jun 2015 04:46:30
If a deal between the leafs and Pens is completed this is the package that the leafs should try and acquire:


Tor: D Pouliot, D Maata, D Scuderi (salary dump and veteran presence for young D-Core), Kunitz/Dupuis(salary dump), 2016 first

Pit: F Kessel, D Polak

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1.) 28 Jun 2015 07:26:36
XD
Holy cow.


2.) 28 Jun 2015 14:37:01
If Lucic get
lottery pick, good young goalie and a prospect

Kessel easily gets
Lottery pick, Additional pick(2nd), good prospect, young player


3.) 28 Jun 2015 17:31:45
Trading Pouliot would be a mistake.


4.) 28 Jun 2015 19:48:45
Pouliot OR Maatta and I still don't know whether the Pens say yes.


 

 

03 Jun 2015 00:23:03
A rumored BlockBuster Draft Deal

Potential deal between Leafs-Canes

Tor:5th Overall, Skinner, Semin

Car:24th pick, Bozak or Kadri, Phanuef

Would then allow the leafs to get 2 picks in The top 5(Hanifin & Marner)

A realistic deal unlike the propsoals that have the leafs having 4 picks in the top 10 this deal helps both teams while showing Leafs Nation Shanahan is serious about building through the draft

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1.) 03 Jun 2015 10:39:15
well I havnt heard this rumour before tbh, its kessel/phaneuf and the 24th for semin and the 5th

where did bozak/kadri and skinner come from?

that just makes it even worse


2.) 03 Jun 2015 13:21:57
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Carolina won't trade for Phaneuf, especially if they are giving up the 5th overall, c'mon guys


3.) 03 Jun 2015 13:34:06
5th >>> 24th
Skinner >>> Kardi/Bozak
semin


 

 

16 May 2015 02:33:52
Potential Kessel trade at draft:

Tor: Garbner, Strome, Reinhart, Da Colle, 1st in 2016

Isl: Kessel, Gardiner, 4th round pick in 2015

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1.) 16 May 2015 07:27:24
So Pinball has two accounts now?


2.) 16 May 2015 08:23:48
This is so so so bad, stop with Kessel to Islanders for all three those guys, please just stop.


 

 

12 May 2015 05:45:42
If the leafs were to deal the big 5 realistic deals for both

JVR:

Tor:D Pouliot, W Bennett, 1st in 2016, 2nd in 2015

Pit:JVR, D Robidas

Kessel:

Nyi:Kessel, Polak

Tor:C Strome, D Reinhart, D Pulock, 3rd round pick in 2016

Phanuef:

Det: Phanuef(2 million retained)

Tor: RW Mantha, C Weiss, D Smith, 3rd round pick in 2016

Bozak:

Was: Bozak

Tor: 1st in 2016

Lupul:

Mon: Lupul (1.5 Million retained)

Tor: 2nd round pick in 2016, 4th round pick in 2016

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1.) 12 May 2015 10:58:22
JVR is good, but wow not THAT good. And Detroit wasn't willing to give up Mantha for Phanuef and the deadline, I don't think that would have changed between now and then. They will likely go hard for Petry in free agency instead.


2.) 12 May 2015 13:01:25
well one of the detroit execs spoke about how disapointing mantha has been. so yeah some stuff has changed. but still who knows what they will do


3.) 13 May 2015 02:43:43
Bozak isn't worth a first to any team.


4.) 14 May 2015 21:46:59
Bozak is worth a 1st just not in this draft! You need to remember come crunch time next season when teams are looking to bolster their roster for a playoff run they look to guys like bozak and lupul! Guys that can man the third line but also be moved up to play top 6 minutes . Bozak would probably fetch a late first round pick probably 25-30 or a 2nd and a b level prospect lupul on the other hand would only fetch a 2nd rd pick and maybe a c level prospect


 

 

 

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26 May 2015 00:49:03
Anyone else feel it would be smarter to Draft Hanifin over Strome if we had the chance because I do agree to the motto that great teams are built from the net out and a future defense core of Reilly and Hanifin is scary and let's not Kid ourselves well be back in the llottery next year and we can hopeully grab Matthews the big strong center we have coveted since Sundin so in my eyes if everything goes great the leafs will leave:

1. Trading Phanuef, Bernier or Reimer, Bozak, and Lupul(If possible)

2. Set up the base of a future Phil Kessel blockbuster deal for young players and prospects

3. Draft Hanifin 4th overall

4. Draft Jeremy Roy 24th overall

5. Attempt to acquire 1 more pick in the top 10

All these moves= Great draft

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1.) 26 May 2015 09:11:16
Youre not drafting mattews and its certain because of your new coach


2.) 26 May 2015 23:24:14
@Montreal's finest not guaranteed there's still a lottery you know.


3.) 27 May 2015 10:16:38
Yeah but we could say the same about the 14 other team


 

 

26 Feb 2015 23:21:43
Major Trade

Tor: Nathan Horton

Col: David Clarkson

Lol they really wanted to get rid if him I hope Horton comes back quick he used to be one of my favourites played physical and played a great all around game

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14 Jul 2015 08:45:16
Everyone shut up about Him not being a #1 defenseman first of all Toronto has made him out to be a #1 D-Man not a #2 if he gets traded onto almost any other team he is quickly going to be either there #1 or a really good #2 don't hate on him ya he may be slightly overpaid but there is no doubt in ny mind that Leafs will retain a million in any deal if they do he will fetch a nice a good package for Toronto but enough of all the hate on Phanuef ya he may not be the best defenseman or in the upper tier but he is definitely a #2 on a great team

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13 Jul 2015 01:26:50
What the hell how can anyone say Huberdeau>JVR that's the dumbest thing I have ever heard people are crazy if they think Florida would be the one to Reject cause it would be the leafs in no way do the they get enough value back for JVR, Kadri and Gardiner try again

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09 Jul 2015 08:10:35
Why would leafs do this type of trade right now one year into a rebuild its ridiculous getting rid of our future #1 D-Man and a definite top 2 pick in next years draft with a chance on Auston Matthews no deal for leafs let's continue the right way and it doesn't make sense since were finally starting to build right this deal is like taking 2 steps back

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04 Jul 2015 20:29:53
For the first time a Edmonton leafs trade results in the leafs being totally trolled this is horrible value for Bernier and Phanuef

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01 Jul 2015 01:12:22
Wtf @TheNumbNut in what world is Lucic in the same category with Kessel its not even close Kessel is going to get a hell of a lot more than Lucic got Boston stop hating

Kessel >>> Lucic

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