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06 Feb 2019 19:14:36
Looks like Boyle is going to Nashville for a 2nd round pick.

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01 Feb 2019 18:04:46
PIT: Brassard (UFA), Sheahan (UFA), 2nd, 4th, 4th

FLA: Bjugstad, McCann

Confirmed Trade

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26 Oct 2018 20:59:24
With the start that LA is having, how long until kovalchuk runs back to the KHL?

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1.) 26 Oct 2018 22:36:39
Kovalchuk is doing very well making good plays and standing out it just seems that their line can’t catch a break. I’d say he looking better then Kopitar.

2.) 26 Oct 2018 22:53:18
Pacific is definitely wide open. I have the Sharks as the only playoff locks in the pacific.

3.) 26 Oct 2018 22:54:16
I was thinking the same thing the other night, only thing I see that makes me think he stays is that the big KHL money has apparently dried up. When Nylanders agent kinda floated the KHL option, it was shut down quickly. When kovalchuk left NJ he went there and was making over $9mill per season for the first 2 years. Then owners reigned in the crazy salaries and kovy only made $5 mill his last 2 years and was still the highest paid. So the threat of going there isn’t what it was a cpl years ago. Nylander doesn’t want $6.5 here, but to go there he’s like a $4-5 mill guy now.

4.) 27 Oct 2018 01:09:55
With people getting more and more superficial, how long until someone makes a racial profile based comment about a russian player going back to the KHL as soon as there's some adversity? Oh, wait.

5.) 27 Oct 2018 09:45:43
It’s not racial profiling lol he has done it before. We are not saying malkin will do it because kovalchuk and radulov did it. It’s saying kovalchuk could do it because he’s done it before lol.

6.) 27 Oct 2018 17:19:29
Does Kovalchuks Kings deal have a no movement clause?
If anything I could see him asking for a trade, he did come back to win a cup. I think. or maybe jus the money. hard to know with that guy.



13 Sep 2018 19:33:17
Eric Karlsson to SJS! Confirmed trade.

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1.) 13 Sep 2018 19:45:56
Hahaha oh man. I can't wait to see Rambo try and spin this.

2.) 13 Sep 2018 19:45:56
Sens get an additional 1st rounder in the deal of Karlsson plays for an eastern conference team this season lol love how they had to protect themselves after sharks already schooled them with Hoffman!

Not a bad haul tho.

3.) 13 Sep 2018 19:46:50
Definitely not Braden Point, Sergachev, 2 firsts and taking bobby Ryan with him tho, right Rambo?

4.) 13 Sep 2018 19:48:27
Karlsson for Norris+1st+2nd+Balcers+Tierney+DeMelo and conditional picks. that's a lot of pieces, but the big value lies in Norris, Balcers and the 1st. Tierney and Demelo are just fillers and a 2nd is a 2nd

Quite a step down from NBRs cries of ‘Boeser + Hughes + VANS 1st’. VANS 1 > SJS 1, Hughes >>>>> Norris and Boeser>>>>>>everything else.

lol @NBR wya now?

5.) 13 Sep 2018 20:08:05
Looks like they were going after Timo Meier and that didn't work out.
Also, the 1st is conditional - SJS has to make it to the finals or it goes to a 2nd i think.

6.) 13 Sep 2018 20:25:02
HAHAHAHAHAHA what was that Rambo? Hughes and two firsts or Boeser, Hughes and a first for Karlsson?!?! HAHA you’re clueless. You’re always so arrogant on here like you know everything yet every time you say a player will get this or get that he never does. You know nothing.

7.) 13 Sep 2018 20:31:12
I wonder is Rambone will ever comment on it or not.
Yet another homer absolutely wrong of his evaluations.
Colt and Shattenkirk was another classic.

8.) 13 Sep 2018 21:23:19
It's so funny they needed to throw that conditional pick in.

San Jose burned them on the Hoffman deal so now they have to cover their ass this time.

9.) 13 Sep 2018 21:24:33
Man Ottawa just has not had any luck with trades this year. Pretty brutal imo UNREAL for sharks.

10.) 13 Sep 2018 21:53:03
E. Kane and Karlsson are unreal additions.
Karlsson, Burns, Vlasic, Pavelski, Couture, Kane, Thornton.
****. They are the favorites in pacific no questions. And just jumped into the top of the league talks with Nashville, Winnipeg and Tampa.

11.) 13 Sep 2018 22:03:16
Awful trade for Ottawa. Quantity over quality by far. Not one high end prospect in return. Plus if you look at the Duschene trade and compare what they paid vs the return on Karlsson, it’s is completely awful value in return. Another bad move by Dorion. Not saying one of the prospects or picks turns out but that’s a lot of risk for an elite top pairing defenceman.

12.) 13 Sep 2018 23:28:45
Potentially it’s Norris, Tierney, Demelo Balcans, 3 1st rounders and 2nd.

However for the Senators to get that package, Sharks would have to sign him to an extension, trade him to an eastern Conference team at the deadline and then make the Stanley Cup final lol.

13.) 13 Sep 2018 23:56:32
We won’t hear from Rambo until he’s telling us what package Stone will bring in.

14.) 14 Sep 2018 00:04:26
Shattenkirk got a first a prospect and conditional pick.

That 1st pick turned into schenn. can't argue with those results.

15.) 14 Sep 2018 04:12:55
I said it superstars like Karlsson don’t actually bring much back because no matter what you get it’ll never amount up to what you gave up. Look at the Gretzky, Roy and Jagr trades none got back mush significans compared to what they were.

16.) 14 Sep 2018 12:17:18
Habs legit got a better return for Patch than Ottawa had for Carlson

Damn Sens got fleeced bigtime unless Karlesson doesn't resign in San Jose.



26 Jul 2018 21:48:22
Thought i would toss an idea out.
There was a post earlier about Panarin being traded to Toronto, but in the end - not really what Toronto is looking for.
What if you bring in Carolina? Panarin to Carolina, Caronina sends maybe Hanafin to Toronto and Columbus would receive Brown, Leivo, 2nd (toronto), 3rd (Car)...

Columbus gets a speedy young forward in brown, a depth forward (i think Leivo has good potential for a 3rd line) and a 1st and 3rd.
Toronto gets Hanafin on their blue line.
Carolina gets a great winger to help up front with the team. Carolina probably wants more...

Just a thought - dig in gents.

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1.) 27 Jul 2018 00:38:25
Hanfin is on Calargry.

2.) 27 Jul 2018 01:13:35
Hannifin was traded to Calgary.
That's not enough from Toronto for him anyways.

3.) 27 Jul 2018 02:00:51
U do know hanifin is a flame now...

4.) 27 Jul 2018 02:20:36
Hanafin no longer plays for Carolina.

5.) 27 Jul 2018 02:40:11
Should we bring in Calgary as well then?


6.) 27 Jul 2018 02:49:20
Hanifin plays for the flames my dude

7.) 27 Jul 2018 03:02:52
the idea of trading brown and leivo and picks for hanafin is a good one, from leafs perspective. although i'd trade kap over brown, i like brown.

too bad hanafin is on the flames though.

8.) 27 Jul 2018 03:11:41
Hey Turkey . Hanafin has been traded to the Flames .

9.) 27 Jul 2018 03:22:28
Hanifin is on Calgary already bud but I’ll continue with the proposal and I’d say easy no from Carolina.

10.) 27 Jul 2018 03:37:53
Hanifin went to Calgary in the douggie Hamilton trade. Even if you switched him for some other defender (pesce/ slavin come to mind) I don't think brown Leivo 2nd 3rd would be enough because defenders are valued at a premium. Also Panarin doesn't want to to resign in Carolina.

11.) 27 Jul 2018 19:13:36
Lol, i shouldn't post after i have been drinking.
Anyways, base of the idea was to bring in a 3rd team that would have some defense to put into the mix to send to Toronto and have a need for Panarin on the front end.

12.) 27 Jul 2018 19:40:21
How we gunna work Calgary in to get hanifin.

13.) 28 Jul 2018 07:41:14
Even if CAR still had Hanifin, no way Brown and Leivo get Hanifin lol.




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25 Jun 2019 17:12:35
W. Karlsson signed 8 years for less that $6M a season. That sounds like a great deal to me. Did that just help reset the market?

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1.) 25 Jun 2019 17:22:13
I think that’s fair value for him, but a lot of the other RFAs will still demand more because they are much younger than Karlsson and he really came back down to earth this year in a high scoring season. I expect a lot of the other big name restricted free agents to demand more unless they take a bridge deal.

2.) 25 Jun 2019 19:29:55
Or maybe it had something to do with no state tax in Vegas ya think?

3.) 25 Jun 2019 19:53:14
State tax implication an important consideration for sure as Habby pointed out

Apparently he also really likes it there so maybe he was a little more focused on staying there vs. maximizing his salary.

4.) 25 Jun 2019 23:40:31
I believe Forbes said the difference between what Mark Stone makes on 9.5 mill in Vegas compared to California ends up being about 71k a year so I really don’t think there’s much of an impact. The difference between 5.9 and 6 mill.

5.) 26 Jun 2019 02:21:30
Try doing it for the difference between Vegas and Montreal Toronto or New York?

6.) 26 Jun 2019 06:08:18
y'all are aware that this tax argument is huge bs? It barely makes a difference.
Have you thought about the CAD/ USD factor, tho? THIS is a huge advantage to Canadian teams. They pay their players in USD, those same players live in CAN, tho. So 8.5M USC gives them 11.2M CAD buying power. How about that for an ACTUAL advantage.

7.) 26 Jun 2019 11:10:19
Canadian income tax is a killer it more then evens out.

8.) 26 Jun 2019 12:39:54
Pardon me Triplets and JBS but you are both clearly ill-informed on this issue.

Here's a snippet copy and pasted from Capfriendly: "Tavares makes $11 million in Toronto and his net salary is $5.145 million, while Kucherov’s $9.5 million salary in Tampa Bay nets him $5.781 million. Kucherov still has a higher net salary playing in Tampa Bay, even though Tavares gets paid $1.5 million more in Toronto. "

I would not say that "barely makes a difference"

Now as you pointed out players are played in USD, but that impact is largely offset by the higher prices paid for goods in Canadian dollars vs. USD (buying a Big Mac in Toronto has a higher nominal price tag than buying one in Florida) .

Also, a lot of the cities in high-tax areas (Toronto, New York, Vancouver, etc. ) are way more expensive to live in (buying/ renting homes) . So there's obviously a lot of moving parts, but you can see why living in Nevada (low tax, relatively inexpensive real estate, etc. ) would be appealing. They will never be able to make it perfectly even, but the NHL needs to find a way to shorten the gap in "true cap" between various regions because right now teams in states with low/ no income taxes have a material advantage over others, clearly contradicting the spirit of the salary cap which was designed to create parity and level the playing field.

9.) 26 Jun 2019 15:15:30
Unsportsmanlike capfriendly simply takes contract by home tax rate. Forbes takes into what they are actually paying in taxes. Capfriendly ignores the 50% of games played on the road and the other loopholes players used. California is the highest taxed US state, Nevada has 0 state taxes. Difference on Stones 9.5 mill is 71k. It’s one of the biggest misconceptions in the sport made as an excuse as to why other teams can’t keep their players, it’s not like any of these teams has ever been grabbing superstars left and right on the open market. The impact is extremely overstated. And like VB said, Canada is taxed higher but being paid in USD and having expenses in CAD usually puts them ahead even if their entire salary was taxed in their home city. The Athletic also had an article about how the issue is really nonexistent.

10.) 26 Jun 2019 15:16:40
Also since you used Tavares let’s go with him. All but like 650k a year is a paid in a bonus. If he had a Florida residency that entire bonus is taxed in Florida. He can then take one and RCA on the other 650k. He puts half his income into there and if he retires to Florida he can take it out at Florida tax rate. Tavares would then only be taxed outside of a no tax state for half (minus games played in those states) if his low annual salary, about 325k of his 11 mill annual salary. Like I said there are ways around the tax, unlike other imbalances people are ok with. You don’t see players in any sport rushing to Florida nor do non-state tax teams have a lot of success as a whole in any sport.

11.) 26 Jun 2019 15:56:32
Also with the taxes, you pay taxes to where you are playing. So when you are on the road, you pay taxes to whoever you are visiting. It helps even it out, but in places like California where they play half of their games at home and a significant amount of road games within the same state it makes a bigger difference.



17 May 2019 13:35:25
Could you call more hand passes in one game? That was hilarious!

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1.) 17 May 2019 22:40:22
I bet San Jose gets screwed over with penalties tonight lol.

2.) 20 May 2019 14:22:04
In all honesty the penalties that sanjose took were blatant.

high stick to steen double minor.
brent Burns Blatant Tripping of tarasenko on breakaway
then taking two penalties at the same time by different players then of course haley acting like a turd sandwich
Then Kane tripping binnington, laying high hit on petro, kneeing petro and tarasenko

The sharks imploded and tried to hurt blues players. Real Classy team. They have been gifted two game seven games and game 3 against blues by refs, now they complain they are being biased LOL.

3.) 20 May 2019 21:21:16
seemed like San Jose couldn't get anything going. couldn't make a clean pass, they were shooting pucks off their own players and what not. st. louis looked really good (maybe their powerplay could use some work) but yeah it could be their year.



10 Apr 2019 16:52:55
Anyone have a good site ranking players for a playoff pool?

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1.) 11 Apr 2019 04:30:01
If you mean one that factors in the likelihood of a specific player’s team going far into the playoffs, no, I am not aware of one that does that. A “best guess” would be to take a players ppg over the season and multiply that by (1/ that player’s team’s stanley cup winning odds) but that would not be an exact science by any means (vegas odds move in order to balance their books/ limit their exposure to a particular outcome so it’s more a reflection of the consensus of the gambling community) .

2.) 11 Apr 2019 23:46:32
Dallas beating Nashville would be the biggest potential upset in the 1st round Imo even more so then clb beating Tampa. The 3 worst rosters depth and skill wise are Dallas Islanders and penguins.

3.) 12 Apr 2019 11:18:09
Agreed Habby. As 8th seeded teams go, columbus is pretty darn good. Tough to look at them as a “reward” matchup for Tampa after a historic season.



22 Feb 2019 17:33:25
Duchene to Columbus!

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1.) 22 Feb 2019 17:58:14
I guess if duchene resigns and the Sens get that conditional pick it's a good deal for Ottawa. But eventhough abramov has been highly touted by some neither of the prospects they get back are that great IMO.

2.) 22 Feb 2019 18:48:16
A top-3 protected first, a former 3rd and 6th round pick, and a conditional first and if he resigns.

A bit of a far cry from the Kotkaniemi and 2 1sts that boy wonder Rambo insisted Duchene was worth 😂.

3.) 22 Feb 2019 20:16:12
Kind of a weak return by Ottawa IMO.

4.) 22 Feb 2019 23:14:18
If he doesn't resign with clb it's a hortible return as far as I'm concerned. But what if he resigns with ottawa this sumner? Lol.

5.) 22 Feb 2019 22:59:54
Doron is known to get weak returns for star players/ good players and that trade dosnt change this that.

6.) 23 Feb 2019 17:07:26
Columbus is also a team that could miss playoffs so maybe they took a little less knowing the first could be a lottery pick.



18 Sep 2018 19:01:36
After seeing Braun post, i just read a great article on THW - Side Effects of the Eric Karlsson Trade. Really worth looking into and goes in depth regarding the SJS blue line and depth concerns up front.
Also reminded me that Burns used to play RW... doubt it would happen again, but does bring up some great questions.
Really do suggest checking out that article if you get a chance.

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1.) 18 Sep 2018 21:00:02
That is a good article and does it ever go into depth. It is exactly what I was thinking regarding SJ’s forward depth now. I think the only time you see Burns up front is on the PP. That is why I thought Kapanen or Brown might be something they’d be interested in, however it seems a center is what they need most. With Braun coming off his best season and Toronto’s need for a RD, the Sharks could probably get a steal for Braun. I understand not wanting to break up Braun/ Vlasic but as mentioned in the article, it may have to be something they explore. This same article could be written in reverse for the maple leafs. Did anyone (Sosa) notice the part that says, “When opportunity allows a team to bring in great talent, they need to do it. ”.

2.) 18 Sep 2018 21:31:12
Oh yeah, I saw that for sure. I think Braun would be a great addition to the Leafs, ideally for the 2nd line but would for sure be your 1RD for the time being. I think Kap would be a good starting point but i'm sure they would be asking for ++ after that. Kap, Leivo and Bracco? I think Bracco was drafted as a center but don't know how he has done since.

3.) 18 Sep 2018 23:53:22
Pavalski, Joe, Hertal and Couture is pretty good center depth of you ask me.

4.) 19 Sep 2018 04:15:41
Read the article vbb’s. It said that Hertl can also play center but he belongs on Couture’s wing because he was excellent there. We all know big Joe is slowing down and the article mentioned all the games missed between Thornton and Pavelski. You’re right Turkey, it would be Kapanen plus but I think it would be something both teams would consider.

5.) 19 Sep 2018 04:51:52
I don’t watch much Sharks at all so I could be wrong, but even if they are listed as centres don’t Pavelski and Hertl typically play on the wing?

6.) 19 Sep 2018 15:19:24
Your right jbs. The article goes into that. Also just the chemistry of their current defensive pairing being better than the sum of the two players - which i think has a big impact on the team as well as trade value. If the mix up Braun and keep him on the 3rd line they have an unbalanced team but also his stock is at risk of going down. If they try and move him now they might get a great return for him.
I think Toronto is a great trade partner as they are in a very similar predicament - great players but unbalanced - each on the opposite side of the scale.




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26 Jun 2019 15:19:23
It's hard to gauge his value when he has no contract. If he signs for $9.5 he would be unreal! If he signs for $11.5 it would make a big difference.
I know Kucherov signed his deal but has a completely different tax situation. But playing in Toronto has a different opportunity to make money as well in advertising and marketing. That could help bridge the gap.

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24 Jun 2019 21:20:12
I don't think this is that bad. This fixes a lot of things in Toronto.

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24 Jun 2019 15:39:51
Also, looks like Kucherov could be 1.5-2M less in cap space which means a lot these days.

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21 Jun 2019 21:14:06
No on both of those. Toronto wins by a land slide.
However, Kadri would look good in Colorado.

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21 Jun 2019 19:57:45
I think you took that out of context VBB. I believe he is saying that you need to give Kadri for any team to take Zaitsev.
I don't agree with that, but i believe that was his intention.

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