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16 Feb 2019 21:25:23
Three-Way Trade Idea:

Columbus Blue Jackets Trade: Artemi Panarin [6.00 Million x 1 Year] + 2020 2nd Round Draft Pick.
Ottawa Senators Trade: Mark Stone [7.350 Million x 1 Year] + Ryan Dzingel [2.10 Million x 1 Year]
Nashville Predators Trade: Dante Fabbro [Unsigned] + Craig Smith [4.25 Million x 2 Years] + 2019 1st Round Draft Pick

Columbus Blue Jackets Acquire: Mark Stone
Ottawa Senators Acquire: Dante Fabbro Craig Smith + 2019 1st Round Draft Pick + 2020 2nd Round Draft Pick
Nashville Predators Acquire: Artemi Panarin + Ryan Dzingel

- Ottawa picks up a ton of valuable young pieces, and essentially swaps Dzingel for Smith since Smith has the extra year and could be in play next year.
- Nashville picks up a star caliber player for their top six and a middle six to help them against the Flames, Jets and Sharks: giving them an elite forward core and a chance at the cup this year.
- Columbus essentially swaps Stone for Panarin, and gives up the 2nd to do so since imo, Stone is better than Panarin. However, it is entirely possible that Stone resigns while Panarin does not.


1.) 16 Feb 2019 23:05:48
Stone is not better than Panarin in any universe.

2.) 17 Feb 2019 00:06:19
Columbus won’t take a chance swapping free agents. If they think they can sign Stone they will wait to do so in the summer. In the meantime, they collect what they can for Panarin. Way too risky to chance ending up with only a 2nd for Panarin.

3.) 17 Feb 2019 02:15:08
I'll take stone over bread man every time easily
There is more to the game then points.

4.) 17 Feb 2019 13:26:24
Panarin and a 2nd for stone? Laughabl, how many times stone set records for his team? People said panarin was a product of playing with kane and his first year in Columbus set team record for assists and points. And he's not a liability defensively, just doesn't hit, nothing else wrong with his game. Stone is a good player but not the same level.

5.) 18 Feb 2019 06:06:37
This is a joke right?



16 Feb 2019 05:10:03
Stolarz for Talbot one for one.


1.) 16 Feb 2019 07:11:44
decent change of scenery trade, i like it. helps both teams.

2.) 16 Feb 2019 08:47:12
No i don't think so, if any goalie goes it is Elliot. An experienced goalie with some playoff experiance in case the oilers actually somehow make the playoffs. Then he is ufa next year. I think if Stolarz goes and Simmonds on the way out (hope not) Kassian could be a good cheap power forward. Try him on a line with Giroux and Couts see what the extra room on the ice does for those guys.

3.) 16 Feb 2019 15:32:45
outflat, this was a confirmed trade.



16 Feb 2019 02:26:16
Los Angles Kings Trade:
Ilya Kovalchuk (LW - [25% Retention] 4.70 Million x 3 Years)

Colorado Avalanche Trade:
Matt Nieto (LW - 1.95 Million x 2 Years)
Nicolas Meloche (D - 0.85 Million x 2 Years)
Conditional 2019 3rd Round Draft Pick [Condition: Pick is only transferred if Colorado qualifies for the 2019 Playoffs]

- Los Angeles gets value for Kovalchuk now, before he diminishes on the fading team. Nieto is a viable piece who could be traded in the future of the rebuild, and Meloche is a nice piece (former second rounder) .
- Colorado doesn’t give up too much to acquire a solid piece that really helps their depth. Beyond Rantanen/ MacK/ Landy, there isn’t much support, and they only take on appx. an extra 3 million in cap, which they can afford.


1.) 16 Feb 2019 14:44:50
I’d love to see Kovy in a New Jersey but I think he’d excel more in the East.

2.) 16 Feb 2019 21:22:30
Avalanche are out of playoffs. They are pursuing youth movement. I doubt they want old man Kovalchuk. If he couldn’t help LA playing with Kopitar and Carter, I fail to see him doing anything in Colorado playing with guys a lot less talented.



29 Jan 2019 22:18:43
Deadline Deals:

SJS Acquire:
Marcus Johansson [4.5 Million x 1 Year]
Ben Lovejoy [2.7 Million x 1 Year]

NJD Acquire:
Melker Karlsson [2.0 Million x 2 Years]
Jacob Middleton [0.7 Million x 2 Years]
2020 2nd Round Draft Pick

[Karlsson and the 2nd get moved for Johansson, Middleton gets swapped for Lovejoy]


DET Acquires:
Derick Brassard [3.0 Million x 1 Year]
Tristan Jarry [0.7 Million x 2 Years]
Zach Aston-Reese [0.9 Million x 1 Year]
2019 2nd Round Draft Pick

PIT Acquires:
Gustav Nyquist [4.75 Million x 1 Year]
Jacob De La Rose [0.9 Million x 2 Years]
2020 4th Round Draft Pick

[Nyquist goes for Brassard, Jarry and the 2nd, basically Pittsburgh upgrades mightily on a struggling Brassard - I've seen Pens fans willing to budge on this type of proposal for guys like Kevin Hayes, ZAR goes for JDLR and the 4th].

DET Acquires:
Danton Heinen [0.9 Million x 1 Year]

BOS Acquires:
Derick Brassard [3.0 Million x 1 Year]

[Boston upgrades their 3C, they give away the guy with more potential for the guy who can likely make a difference asap]

[Basically, Nyquist, JDLR and 4th for Heinen, ZAR, Jarry and 2nd].


1.) 31 Jan 2019 19:19:12
I like this as a wings fan.



28 Jan 2019 00:27:05
Edmonton Acquires:
Darren Helm [3.80 Million x 3 Years]

Detroit Acquires:
Andrej Sekera [5.50 Million x 3 Years]
Tobias Rieder [2.00 Million x 1 Year]
2020 3rd Round Draft Pick

Contracts are identical lengths, however, Sekera has more term, hence, the draft pick and Rieder are added in. It's possible that Sekera never plays again, so he could be on LTIR, which saves Detroit money, but unlike Horton/ Bolland, it isn't definitive as yet. Rieder could have money retained and be shipped off to a contender for a mid round pick, and as for Edmonton, Helm brings speed to the forward core despite a pricy contract.


1.) 28 Jan 2019 12:00:50
I thought Sekera was nearing a return as is? He was a full practice participant in December. Talk was Spooner was waived because if he was claimed it freed up the cap to activate him, and last I saw was end of December looking at a possible early February return. Isn’t Detroit in a worse cap situation than Edmonton right now? I thought I looked at CapFriendly and they had the least space in the league.

2.) 28 Jan 2019 18:20:56
Detroit is trying to lose cap space, as jbs said, they're up to the cap.




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29 Jan 2019 00:40:06
I proposed Muzzin and Clifford (both at 50%) for Grundstrom, Sparks, 1st and 2nd prior. I mean, its pretty close🤪.




29 Jan 2019 00:38:48
Muzzin officially to the Leafs for a 1st, Durzi and Grundstrom.

Not getting rid of any of Nylander, Kapanen, Johnsson, Bracco, Lily or Sandin is a win for us, especially since Muzzin is a #3 on this team, and has term.


1.) 29 Jan 2019 05:51:32
Grundstrom is much better then Bracco what are you saying?

2.) 29 Jan 2019 06:41:10
Grundstrom plays a better all around game then bracco but the jury is still out on both. I've seen a lot of durzi this year and he's looked pretty good but it is his 4th year of junior so that's to be expected. Leafs needed a dman and they paid the price they had to to get one. could be a good deal for both teams. muzzin is still a pretty good dman with a lot of playoff experience two good qualities the leafs could use.

3.) 29 Jan 2019 12:20:04
Grundstrom is more likely to make the NHL, yes. But realistically, Bracco has a higher ceiling, and I think i would rather keep Bracco, just based on his pace this year. Leo Komarov-esque is Grundstrom, so he should make the nhl, problem is, will he ever be a 40-50 point guy consistentky? Probabky not. Bracco has that potential, although it is a question.

And Habby, i agree 100% on Durzi, he should be producing at this stage as an overager, and especially w Hollowell and Kral both playing good, he became expandable. And to not give up either of Lil/ Sandin is a +.

And i like the deal. We had to give up one of our B prospects and a 1st at minimum for a solid top 4 guy. Unfortunately, there was no retention. But that's fine, now we can simmer dowm om the Nylander + Liljegren ++ for Petro talks. Muzzin solidifies our dcore and brings some much needed physicality. And for the Kings, its a solid trade too. Grundstrom, as i said before, is almost guarranteed to be an NHLer, and the 1st is a 1st. Durzi is a wild card but in 2-4 years time he coild blossom.

4.) 30 Jan 2019 05:50:22
At the beginning of the year Grundstrom was considered the leafs best forward prospect and 3rd overall after Lilly and sandin. Bracco was 8th or 9th overall I realize bracco has put up more points this season but I'd still have to give the edge to Grundstrom.



21 Dec 2018 01:51:43
Heres one for you guys:

If you could go back in time, to the 2013 draft, who you taking first of these two:
- Alex Barkov
- Nathan MacKinnon

Id throw in Jones but that brings in a C vs. D debate, so keeping it simple, two ELITE centers.


1.) 21 Dec 2018 02:11:59

2.) 21 Dec 2018 02:27:39

3.) 21 Dec 2018 10:13:07
Can’t really go wrong, but I’ll say mackinnon.

4.) 21 Dec 2018 10:19:05
Hard, MacKinnon is more explosive and prolly even better offensively while Barkov is one of the best defensive Fs in the game. Coin flip.

5.) 21 Dec 2018 13:37:45
Idk how you can’t take Mackinnon he’s so much more dynamic And harder for deffensman to read. Also he’s way funner to watch. That’s taking nothing away from Barkov just I don’t think it’s close Mackinnon is top 5 C and Barkov is closer to 10th.

6.) 21 Dec 2018 14:40:13
Can't go wrong either way, but when it's a toss-up I'd always go with the Good Ol' Canadian lad.

7.) 21 Dec 2018 15:22:47

8.) 21 Dec 2018 15:30:21
Atta Boy Unsportsmanlike. I also say Mack. I think he's 3rd best Center in game.

9.) 21 Dec 2018 15:37:02
Yeah, barkov is like a kopitar. Big, strong, still highly skilled but not the same kind of explosiveness. Will probably always fly under the radar and deserves more credit than he gets, but I think mackinnon is a step above.

10.) 21 Dec 2018 15:55:45
Have to got MacKinnon here. Canadian bias plays into it a bit but they are both awesome.

11.) 21 Dec 2018 19:12:56
Really the 3rd best C Sosa? Mathews, McDavid And Crosby.

12.) 21 Dec 2018 21:15:04
I’d take Mackinnon for reasons other people have stated.

Also in response to vbb^
No disrespect to Matthews he’s amazing but Mackinnon has proved much more than him. My top 5 centres are McDavid, Crosby, Mackinnon, Malkin, and Schiefele:

13.) 21 Dec 2018 22:37:27
I’d personally put Mathews 3rd easily.

14.) 21 Dec 2018 22:38:47
Yes. I'll take MacKinnon over Mathews. overall game. and hustle . Mathews is more capable of having a really good game. but then followed up with 2 quiet ones. MacKinnon seems to bring it ever shift.

15.) 21 Dec 2018 22:45:07
I think Mack is better then crosby right now.

16.) 22 Dec 2018 00:03:09
Habby, a case could be made for that. In a game 7 of Playoffs, I'll still take Crosby over any player in the game. may be the last year I say that. but he's still 5he best all around guy I think.

17.) 22 Dec 2018 11:32:01
For me, itd be MacK, but I really do think Barkov is right there with him. he's so strong, smart, skilled ad defnesively responsible.

As for top five centers, boy, that's become hard, i'd have some combination of MacKinnon, Barkov, Matthews, Eichel, Malkin, Schief rounding out behind McDavid/ Crosby. (Im probaby forgetting some too, but imo after 1&2, the top8 is almost solely up to perspective.



18 Nov 2018 22:05:53
So, I guess there's an extra-special draft once every ten years or so? First I remember was 2003, and now there's 2015. I mean, I'm just going to list some of the players who have made an impact at the NHL Level or are late-round picks who are playing way over their draft status:

- McDavid
- Eichel
- Marner
- Hanifin
- Provorov
- Werenski
- Meier
- Rantanen
- Debrusk
- Barzal
- Connor
- Chabot
- Eriksson-Ek
- White
- Samsonov [Not there yet, but will make the show soon]
- Boeser
- Konecny
- Roslovic
- Juulsen
- Larsson
- Beauvillier
- Carlsson
- Fischer
- Dermott
- Aho
- Carlo
- Sprong
- Greenway
- Guhle
- Lauzon
- Andersson
- Dunn
- Klyington
- Bracco
- Cirelli
- Saarela
- Malgin
- Wolanin
- Jones
- Joseph
- Bear
- Kaprizov
- SImon
- Balcers
- Terry
- Gaudette
- Nuttivara
- Niku

I'm probably missing some, but my god. All of these guys have either made the show and played sensational, or are prospects who have a very, very good chance of making the show in the near future. And, there's also guys like Strome, Zacha and Crouse, who have played in the NHL, but have struggled.

But my god. What a draft.


1.) 18 Nov 2018 23:51:40
Ya. That's an impressive group. I know 1979 was another impressive group.
Speaking of drafts. has there been a worse top 3 than Yakupov, Murray and Galchenyuk?

2.) 19 Nov 2018 01:42:45
@sosa, that’s pretty bad lol

I remember that draft when Burke drafted Rielly to the leafs at 5 after Griffin Reinhart went 4th to NYI and he said he would have taken him 1st and that he was the best in the draft. He took a lot of heat for saying that as he said a lot of Outlandish things. But looking back, at the 30 1st round picks that draft, there’s some good players, Hampus Lindholm And Trouba etc. But going down the list and saying now at 24 years old, would I trade him 1-for-1 for any of them? The only guys that would be in that group is Filip Forsberg and Vasilevskiy, but one is a D, one a F and one a G. Hard comparison but he comment has become less controversial by the season as a lot of that first round haven’t lived up.

3.) 19 Nov 2018 03:29:13
Ya Jim, Rielly is better than almost all of them. Like you said Vasi and Forsberg.
I remember being upset cause we didn't pick Grigerenko. Lol. And now I know why I could never get a job as a scout lol.

4.) 19 Nov 2018 04:20:24
Dylan Strome will probably make it as a 3rd liner. Crouse has played a fair bit of games but is a bust could be a useful 4th liner. I’d include them.



08 Sep 2018 03:25:14
Erik Karlsson (No extension) + Bobby Ryan + Zack Smith to the Pittsburgh PENGUINS in exchange for Evgeni Malkin + Phil Kessel + KRIs Letang + Daniel Sprong + 1st.

Ottawa takes an insanetdowngrade on defence, barely upgrades on the wing, and slightly upgrades at centre, as Smith is easiky the best 3C in the league, while MAlkin is just a 2C. HOW insane can anyone be to think erik karlson gets less than this, erik karlsson is better than conor mcdavd and sidney crosby. MAlkin is nothing compared to him. See this is a real rumor!


1.) 08 Sep 2018 16:31:18
Wow! This trade is very poor for the Pens. Malkin alone would be a fair trade for an unsigned Karlsson rental. Kessel, Letang, Sprong and a 1st is way over payment for Smith and a Ryan with his crazy contract. No upside or long term value for Pitt. The Sens would jump at this trade a possibly trade off some or all of these players at the trade deadline for future assets.

2.) 08 Sep 2018 16:33:45
Take out Sprong, Add Crosby at %50'retained.

3.) 08 Sep 2018 17:38:29

Maybe Crosby @50, and then add on Murray too. But then ottawa woukd have to trade back Anderson whos 10x the goalie Murray is and clearly retracted his trade request. Ottawa has all the time in the world with this Kaelsson situation, see EK, Duchene and Stone all WANT to resign with the Sens!

4.) 08 Sep 2018 20:58:33
Ottawa declines because their owner is to cheap.

5.) 08 Sep 2018 23:42:41
Vbb is absolutely correct. Their owner doesn't want those expensive players in return.
Dorion would hesitate anyways and then counters with that package for Hagelin, 2019 3rd, 2020 6th.




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19 Feb 2019 22:32:50
Huberdeau for Drouin + Brook? Cause realistically, you only get Huberdeau if a solid player is coming back, ie Gallagher, Drouin, etc.




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16 Feb 2019 02:35:12
😭😭😭Omg this ain’t a troll is it. ‘Klingberg is surely an upgrade on Ceci’. Nah, you don’t say LMFAO😭😭🤣

The fact you even think that this stuff is close to equal value is hilarious, don’t come at anyone saying anything about how the Ottawa side of this deal is even close to fair. Its legitamately Dallas’ three best players for Ottawa’s second and third best players and a bunch of others that equate to zero in the grand scheme of the trade bud.

Three or four years benn and seguin haven’t been themselves? Huh? Benn won an art ross two years ago bud😭😭🤣 what are you on about man. Seguin and Benn are now app worse than Stone and Duchene unsigned oh give me a break, you can’t be serious when saying this stuff🤣🤣🤣🤣. Ask any man on the street in any part of Canada or the US i'd they know hockey and they'll take Benn and Seguin 10/ 10. You want to know why? Cause Ottawa has no leverage w either UFA, their career stats (Benn/ Seguins) are superior, their contracts are locked in and their advanced stats are just as good. And the Klingberg thing is just a whole mess lmao Klingberg EASILY himself pulls in. That package minus one of Stone or Duchene, loool.

Stop thinking every teams going to get hosed like ottawa did w. karlsson. Dorion made himself a fool and paid the price. No one else is doing that. No ones trading the three faces of a franchise for two UFAs and extras.

This is the equivalenr of me saying hey Kadri, Nylander, Brown, zaitsev and gabriel gagne pull in benn, seguin and klingberg🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 get a grip bud.




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14 Feb 2019 18:08:40
Oof Hub for Panarin w/ o resign is bad enough for FLA.




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14 Feb 2019 18:08:08
Way too much for Duch.





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