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17 Oct 2018 00:06:22
Straight-Up Hockey Trade:

New York Rangers Trade: Kevin Shattenkirk (6.300 Million x 3 Years: Retention 4.5% Salary)
Chicago Blackhawks Trade: Brandon Saad (6.000 Million x 3 Years)

Salary with the retention is equal. 6.3 in for CHI, 6 in for NYR + 0.3 for retention.

Both players haven't thrived in an ideal location, both have been healthy scratches and need fresh starts. Chicago could use a fast, puck-moving dman like Shattenkirk, and could be good as a mobile partner for Seabrook. New York could use additional forward depth if they decide to purge their forward core at the deadline [Kreider, Vesey, Hayes, Zucc, etc. ], and a bigger, younger guy in Saad could be helpful.

Saads youth compared to Shattys compensates for the salary retention by NY imo.

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14 Oct 2018 18:19:04
Toronto Trades: William Nylander (RW - RFA) + Josh Leivo (LW - 0.65 Million x 1 Year) + Calle Rosen (LD - 0.90 Million x 1 Year) + 2019 3rd Round Draft Selection.

Columbus Trades: Ryan Murray (LD - 2.90 Million x 1 Year) + Gabriel Carlsson (LD - 0.90 Million x 2 Years) + Josh Anderson (RW - 1.80 x 2 Years) .

Toronto gets some solid assets for Nylander. Murray hasn’t blossomed in Columbus, but could be a solid shutdown dman for the time being in Toronto. A change of scenery could be a benefit for him. Carlsson is a solid shutdown dman, he's the main piece in the trade: he could play with Liljegren on the Marlies, and they could become Torontos second pair for the future. Anderson is a guy who could be solid on Toronto: grit and size (with skill) is much needed in our bottom six.

Columbus gets the big prize in William Nylander who could blossom into their 1C if they see Dubois as a better fit for 2C. If Nylander struggles at C, he could easily be a 60-70+ point winger. This move could also indicate to Panarin that they’re willing to compete now, maybe giving him more incentive to stay. If Panarin leaves, at least they’d have Nylander then. As for trading away two defensemen, it does hurt, but for a forward of that caliber, its okay to deplete the depth slightly. Leivo can be a temporary replacement for Anderson, and Rosen replaces Carlsson’s minutes on Cleveland.

Toronto Lineup:

Patrick Marleau - Auston Matthews - Kasperi Kapanen
Zach Hyman - John Tavares - Mitch Marner
Par Lindholm - Nazem Kadri - Josh Anderson
Andreas Johnsson - Tyler Ennis - Connor Brown
*Frederik Gauthier

Morgan Rielly - Travis Dermott
Ryan Murray - Nikita Zaitsev
Jake Gardiner - Ron Hainsey
*Justin Holl, Igor Ozhiganov

Columbus Lineup:

Artemi Panarin - Pierre-Luc Dubois - Cam Atkinson
Nick Foligno - William Nylander - Oliver Bjorkstrand
Boone Jenner - Alexander Wennberg - Anthony Duclair
Sonny Milano - Riley Nash - Josh Leivo

Zach Werenski - Seth Jones
David Savard - Markus Nuttivara
Scott Harrington - Adam Clendening.

TopShelfSlappers

1.) 14 Oct 2018 22:46:20
Murray is looking more and more like a bust, and Carlsson has been demoted to AHL, taking a step back when hope was he made the team this year. I mean, let’s face it, Columbus’ defense isn’t that strong after their top line and they were really hoping these guys would work out for them. Anderson is a very good player and I love his size. Actually, I love the size of all these guys.

I think Columbus wins this trade. It’s nice dumping a couple fringe players to go along with Nylander. It’s a bit of a gamble here on Carlsson and Murray though.


2.) 15 Oct 2018 11:26:39
I'd take the gamble. yes it would hurt losing the top player in the trade, especially if murray and carlsson do not work out. but on the other side of the trade it could be like the rask trade or kessel trade years ago (with toronto being on the other side of the coin this time and winning the trade by a long haul) . either toronto can lose or win by a landslide doing this deal, . so it'd be high risk high reward potentially.


 

 

08 Oct 2018 00:15:19
Not my normal route, but here we go:

New York Trades: Kevin Hayes (C/ LW - 50% Retention - 3.00 Million x 1 Year)
Toronto Trades: Josh Leivo (LW - 0.75 Million x 1 Year) + Trevor Moore (RW - 0.925 Million x 1 Years) + 2019 2nd Round Draft Pick.

- Hayes is a pending UFA. Considering what they got for guys like Grabner, and the transaction records for guys like Patrick Maroon (similar caliber to Hayes), this seems about right. Hayes is a solid, big guy who would add some much needed size to this Toronto lineup, replacing a small Tyler Ennis. New York gets back a replacement in Leivo who is a step-down for sure, but also acquire a 2nd and one of the Leafs better prospects in Trevor Moore (Low-Risk, Medium Reward Player, almost destined to become a 3rd liner, with not much potential beyond that) . I debated between Moore and Grundstrom but Grundstrom has a higher ceiling, and is too much of an add-in for a UFA.

Toronto Trades: Jake Gardiner (LD - 4.05 Million x 1 Year) + Eamon McAdam (G - 0.925 Million x 1 Year) + Frederik Gauthier (C - 0.675 Million x 1 Year)
Washington Trades: Madison Bowey (RD - 1.00 Million x 2 Years) + Connor Hobbs (RD - 0.75 Million x 1 Year) .

- Washington upgrades their defence in a major way for the time-being. Running Carlson/ Kempny, Orlov/ Niskanen, Gardiner/ Djoos would bea very solid dcore imo. Gauthier and McAdam are roster bodies, nothing more. Toronto downgrades their defence in general for this season, but acquires TWO RHD, which are good commodities. Bowey can step in as a physical presence this season, and get more minutes than in Washington (Stuck behind Carlson, Orlov, etc. ) Hobbs goes to a stacked Marlies team and can develop alongside Liljegren as RHD.

Toronto Trades: Martin Marincin (LD - 0.80 Million x 1 Year) + Andrew Nielsen (RD - 0.675 Million x 1 Year)
Ottawa Trades: Magnus Paajarvi (LW - 0.85 Million x 1 Year)

- Ottawa could use more defense, Toronto could use a veteran 14th forward. Nielsen and Marincin don’t have futures in Toronto, Paajarvi doesn’t have one in Ottawa. Simple trade.

William Nylander resigns, hopefully for a reasonable estimate of appx. 6.55 x 8 Years [52.5 Million Total]

Lineup:
Patrick Marleau - Auston Matthews - William Nylander
Kevin Hayes - John Tavares - Mitch Marner
Zach Hyman - Nazem Kadri - Connor Brown
Andreas Johnsson - Par Lindholm - Kasperi Kapanen
*Tyler Ennis, Magnus Paajarvi

Morgan Rielly - Madison Bowey
Travis Dermott - Nikita Zaitsev
Ron Hainsey - Igor Ozhiganov
*Justin Holl

Frederik Andersen
Garrett Sparks

Maybe not a better team atm. But a bigger, more physical team. Forward depth has zero holes now (Ennis may have been one before), and defense is younger, cost-controlled and has tons of cheap RHD upcoming (Bowey, Liljegren, Hobbs, etc. )

TopShelfSlappers

1.) 08 Oct 2018 05:05:08
I like Kevin Hayes. A lot. Big kid that can bang in the pick and put up solid numbers. He would look good beside any of our theee centres. Not sure NYR make this deal, but if they would, Leafs would be foolish not to jump on it. We could even afford Hayes at his full salary this year. No need for NYR to retain. That may be a further incentive for them to move him.

Any trade that involves trading out Gardiner is a good trade in my eyes. Not sure Dubas feels the same way. If it makes the team weaker in any way, you can be sure he won’t do it. Even though I agree we should be dumping Giveaway for picks/ prospects rather than lose him for nothing.

Paajarvi is a monster. A real bust, he probably wouldn’t have much of a future in Toronto either. But he’s huge. And in my mind, bigger is better.

Well done TopShelfSlappers. I like your lineups. The forward group is especially solid. Defense as you said looks a little weaker, but trading Gardiner is addition through subtraction. And the guys you suggest all have talent and can make us better long term. A one step back, two step forward move.


2.) 08 Oct 2018 05:23:03
Not sure Washington would be up for trading young Bowey. Just my thought tho.


3.) 08 Oct 2018 15:30:51
Ty @LG, I do prefer this, especially as Hayes does provide some size to a small team.


@yupp

I felt the same way, but Washington would want to upgrade to keep their cup. Gardiner is a step up on Bowey for sure, and would allow them to cycle three d units. Gardiner is worth at least a first imo, and Bowey is basically that. Plus, Bowey will be stuck behind Carlson/ Kempny/ Orlov/ Niskanen for at least the next two years, and Djoos is also there, as is Johansen, both solid d prospects.


4.) 08 Oct 2018 18:28:36
Sore Gardiner is an upgrade right now for this season but age and contract I wouldn't make this trade if I was Washington myself. Gardiner older and a UFA at seasons end with rumors of maybe wanting upwards to $7M per year long term on the next deal. I get what you're saying for this year, go for the cup again, And I think I'm now on the fence with all things considered. Leafs are the ones who need to upgrade D not downgrade. Can't win every game 7-6.


 

 

05 Oct 2018 01:51:13
Julius Honka (RD - 863K x 1 Year) + Gemel Smith (C - 730K x 1 Year) to the Toronto Maple Leafs in exchange for Kasperi Kapanen (RW - 863K x 1 Year) + Martin Marincin (LD - 800K x 1 Year) + 2019 3rd Round Draft Selection.

Honka is being benched in favour of Carrick and Polak, and didn’t play extremely well in his first full season as a Star. Instead of wasting him in the press box, he can be traded to a team with a surplus of young forwards. Kappy and Honka were drafted in similar spots and their values seem to be similar. Smith for Marincin and the 3rd seems like an overpay, but the 3rd also makes up for position difference (wing vs. right defence) .

Healthy Dallas Lineup:
Benn - Seguin - Radulov
Janmark - Spezza - Nichuskin
Shore - Faksa - Kapanen
Dickinson - Hanzal - Pitlick/ Comeau
*Comeau/ Ritchie

Lindell - Klingberg
Methot - Heiskanen
Polak - Carrick
*Marincin

Healthy Toronto Lineup:
Marleau - Matthews - Nylander
Hyman - Tavares - Marner
Leivo - Kadri - Ennis
Johnsson - Lindholm - Brown
*Smith

Rielly - Ozhiganov
Gardiner - Honka
Dermott - Zaitsev
*Hainsey, Holl.

TopShelfSlappers

1.) 05 Oct 2018 06:36:48
Honka has a lot of real promise when he was drafted. He seems to have fallen out of favor and isn’t getting the opportunity in Dallas. He’s not exactly a stud prospect, but may still turn out to be a useful player. Or he may just end up being an AHL lifer. If Dallas is playing Carrick ahead of Honka, that sends warning signals off. Because we basically just gave Carrick away to Dallas. And now you want to offer them Kapanen for the player Carrick was brought in to replace?

It’s a real gamble. I think Leafs should pass until we see exactly what we got in Kapanen and if Honka gets to show what he can do at NHL level.


2.) 05 Oct 2018 10:54:30
Topshelf I usually think your proposals are fair but LeafsGM makes some solid points. If Kapanen were to get traded, I think he could be packaged for a more proven defenseman. I really don’t know anything about Honka but if Carrick is ahead of him on the depth chart, enough said. Is Gemel Smith any good?


3.) 05 Oct 2018 12:37:06
Yeah, i see what both of you guys are saying, i just took in that if Carrick is replacing Honka that is troubling. I was jusy thinking that maybe he could realize his potential as a late bloomer, but it makes sense if he's stuck behind Polak/ Carrick its going to be hard to crack a lineup.

As for Gemel Smith @Leafs17, he's a tougher guy for the bottom six. He could easily plug in as a spare or play the games against the meaner teams such as Boston or the Islanders. He had 11 points last year in half a season which isn’t awful, and he's young enough to contribute. Better than Gauthier imo.


4.) 05 Oct 2018 17:34:31
I actually have gemel smiths ‘home’ and ‘away’ laundry bags and his nutrition/ stretches/ exercise and team rules binder from the Dallas stars that he got at his first pro camp. It’s funny because it’s from like 5-6 years ago and it’s probably changed again so much since then between sports science and with all the social media worries etc with these kids.


 

 

22 Sep 2018 17:41:29
Simple Trade Idea:

Jake Gardiner [LD - 4.05 Million x 1 Year] + Garrett Sparks [G - 0.75 Million x 1 Year] + 2020 3rd Round Draft Selection to the Los Angeles Kings in exchange for Alec Martinez [LD - 4.00 Million x 3 Years] + 2019 6th Round Draft Pick.

- Los Angeles is evidently attempting to win now, hence signing Kovalchuk and trading for Dion [both at large price tags]. If they are really trying one last ‘go-at-it’, then Gardiner improves their team more than Martinez, as they lack a true offensive dman like him [Doughty is two-way; Dion, Muzzin and Forbort are defensive]. Sparks solidifies the backup role, as Budaj is a question mark imo, and he gives them a chance to win on back-to-backs.

- Toronto acquires a better shutdown dman while giving up the better overall dman. Still, they acquire defensive insurance for the next two years, at a relatively cheap price, rather than having to pay Gardiner north of 6.0million. And while LA is trying one last ‘go-at-it’, Toronto would rather players with term, albeit if they are worse.

LA Dcore:
Forbort - Doughty
Muzzin - Gardiner
Brickley - Phaneuf


TOR Dcore:
Rielly - Hainsey
Martinez - Zaitsev
Dermott - Ozhiganov.

TopShelfSlappers

1.) 22 Sep 2018 20:41:00
I think LA says yes for the reasons you stated but I don’t think Toronto pulls the trigger. Maybe if Martinez shot right.


2.) 22 Sep 2018 21:15:57
Maybe then LA could add in a second? Or LA trades the third instead of Toronto?

Cause I’m in favour of getting controllable assets as Toronto, and not overpaying for UFAs like Gardiner [basically saving some UFA years at a cost controlled price]

Lol, i hardly watch the Kings, but i assumed that Martinez is still a solid dman. Maybe not the offensive force, but maybe defensively sound? And if we get that, then Rielly/ Martinez/ Dermott is a solid LHD for three years imo.


3.) 23 Sep 2018 00:15:51
Maybe not a 2nd unless Gardiner is going to sign an extension with Kings? Maybe LA adds a conditional pick of some sort but it’s a good post.


4.) 23 Sep 2018 18:17:44
Yeah, could see something like the 3rd being removed and a conditional pick being sent Toronto’s way if Gardiner resigns. I think Sparks has to be in the trade tho, or maybe McElheinney or sumting. kings def need a backup better than Budaj.


 

 

 

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08 Sep 2018 03:25:14
Erik Karlsson (No extension) + Bobby Ryan + Zack Smith to the Pittsburgh PENGUINS in exchange for Evgeni Malkin + Phil Kessel + KRIs Letang + Daniel Sprong + 1st.

Ottawa takes an insanetdowngrade on defence, barely upgrades on the wing, and slightly upgrades at centre, as Smith is easiky the best 3C in the league, while MAlkin is just a 2C. HOW insane can anyone be to think erik karlson gets less than this, erik karlsson is better than conor mcdavd and sidney crosby. MAlkin is nothing compared to him. See this is a real rumor!

TopShelfSlappers

1.) 08 Sep 2018 16:31:18
Wow! This trade is very poor for the Pens. Malkin alone would be a fair trade for an unsigned Karlsson rental. Kessel, Letang, Sprong and a 1st is way over payment for Smith and a Ryan with his crazy contract. No upside or long term value for Pitt. The Sens would jump at this trade a possibly trade off some or all of these players at the trade deadline for future assets.


2.) 08 Sep 2018 16:33:45
Take out Sprong, Add Crosby at %50'retained.


3.) 08 Sep 2018 17:38:29
@Yupp

Maybe Crosby @50, and then add on Murray too. But then ottawa woukd have to trade back Anderson whos 10x the goalie Murray is and clearly retracted his trade request. Ottawa has all the time in the world with this Kaelsson situation, see EK, Duchene and Stone all WANT to resign with the Sens!


4.) 08 Sep 2018 20:58:33
Ottawa declines because their owner is to cheap.


5.) 08 Sep 2018 23:42:41
Vbb is absolutely correct. Their owner doesn't want those expensive players in return.
Dorion would hesitate anyways and then counters with that package for Hagelin, 2019 3rd, 2020 6th.


 

 

03 Aug 2018 13:30:33
Yesterday, Jeff Skinner was traded within the conference, to another ‘bubble’ team for a rather underwhelming return. Possibly this is a trend for scoring wingers coming off of down years. As for Toronto, although extremely unlikely due to our pursuit for dmen, I’d like to see us try and acquire a full rental LW for cheap, since out depth on the left side isn’t the strongest (Marleau/ Hyman/ Johnsson) .

This scenario is unlikely since they are divisional rivals, but.

Max Pacioretty (LW - 4.50 Million x 1 Year) to the Toronto Maple Leafs in exchange for Jeremy Bracco (RW - ELC) + Josh Leivo (LW - 650K x 1 Year) + 2019 2nd Round Draft Pick + 2020 2nd Round Draft Pick.

Essentially a better return for Patches than for Skinner. Bracco = Pu; Leivo >> 6th; 2nd+2nd > 2nd+3rd. And I’d argue since Skinner is coming off of a better year than Patches, Skinner is worth more, but it makes sense that Toronto would pay more since they are in the division. This essentially loads up Torontos top6 and makes any line matchup impossible. As a rental, with the price of Hoff and Skinner being reduced to nil, Patches value must have also plummeted.

(Btw, i'm basing this on an assumption that Skinners value = Patches or is very close to it) .

TopShelfSlappers

1.) 03 Aug 2018 14:37:30
I’d do that from leafs POV.


2.) 03 Aug 2018 14:46:09
I wouldn’t want to pay any more than skinner got. So if you matched the picks (2,3,6), rather than us paying that extra second I think it’s fair. Skinner is coming off a good year and a great year before that which I would have more confidence in. Contracts end the same time so no advantage to one or the other there. Skinner has higher salary, so to some teams that makes patches more valuable, but doesn't affect us with $20 mill this season. (13-14 mill after Nylander) . Montreal May want more from us, understandably, because of the division rival thing, but they know we wouldn’t be resigning him and they know they aren’t competing directly for anything with us this season. So they should just take the best return regardless where it comes from.


3.) 03 Aug 2018 15:16:18
Or they could just keep him and see what happens between now and the trade deadline.


4.) 03 Aug 2018 20:10:10
If he has a down year like last year @Habby, on a seemingly worse Habs team (Kotka won’t play, Chucks downgrades as an offensive threat to Domi), idk if you’d realistically get much more. It’s worth the gamble I guess considering returns are extremely low right now, but looking at scoring winger trades in the past; besides Nash which was an extreme overpayment by Boston, they haven’t had very good return.

He could probably get a 1st at the deadline if he puts up similar numbers to last year, but I don’t think much more.


5.) 03 Aug 2018 21:25:21
A first would be a good return IMO for the habs. More picks the better. Plus the habs will have the ability to retain salary which is something I'm pretty sure carolina did not want to do. either way galchenyuk not being there will not influence pacioretty much if any at all. Domi on the other hand could probably work out we'll for him.


6.) 03 Aug 2018 21:34:51
Might be a pretty realistic post. Not what i would want back but i'm biased, lol.


7.) 03 Aug 2018 23:31:00
@TSS, the Nash one was a pretty good return but remember that they sent back beleskys (while retaining on it) bad contract in there too. So a portion of the return definitely goes towards covering that and not all for Nash. So a later 1st and Spooner who is the best piece in it, but bruins knew they couldn't sign him. Still a better return than a canes got for a whole year of much younger skinner tho for sure.


 

 

03 Aug 2018 00:02:01
Skinner to BUF for Pu, a 2nd and some other picks.

Man, Buffalo could be a team on a mission this year.

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01 Aug 2018 13:33:10
I wanted to see peoples opinions on thse teams for the next five-ten years (They’re all younger teams; TB not included lol)

- Buffalo
- Toronto
- Philadelphia
- Carolina
- Winnipeg
- Vancouver
- Arizona
- Edmonton

I think that in the next five - seven years, the majority of Stanley Cups will either goes to these teams or Tampa. Cause the older teams would just fall away. My personal ranking, as with current prospects, lineups, picks, trades, etc.

1. Winnipeg
2. Toronto
3. Philadelphia
4. Buffalo
5. Arizona
6. Carolina
7. Edmonton
8. Vancouver.

TopShelfSlappers

1.) 01 Aug 2018 14:25:39
I believe that coaching, chemistry, avoiding injuries, depth and the use of their cap space will ultimately be the deciding factors in which teams have the most success in the future. All these teams have good young talent but talent alone usually doesn't win cups.


2.) 01 Aug 2018 16:44:53
A lot of time for things to change and mistakes to be made but pretty good list. I would put Edmonton ahead of Carolina and philly, mainly because of mcdavid tho. It’s a team sport and one guy can’t win for you in hockey like in the NBA, but if anyone can come close, it’s him.


3.) 01 Aug 2018 17:56:53
Philly if carter hart can become a real good number 1 goalie, like among the leagues best may have a shot. toronto edmonton and buffalo with all the top draft picks they have had should all be contenders soon. arizona Carolina and Vancouver all have a lot of work to do yet. but I mean Vegas made it to the stanley cup finals so I guess anything is possible.


4.) 01 Aug 2018 20:09:26
1.Winnepeg ( but it depends on what happens with Trouba and Wheeler could easily change)
2. Toronto
3. Buffalo ( they have a franchise Center and Dman + Midelstad who will be a stud and whoever they pick up next year. They can make it to the top potentially imo. )
4. Tampa ( if they get Karlsson things change but they need to work on that PK bad )
5.Philly
6. Arizona


The rest I don’t believe can amount to much because you can’t win a cup without good manegment and those teams need a change imo especially Edmonton. If they get a change then they could move up.


5.) 02 Aug 2018 09:33:52
Props for ranking BUF over TB, VB.


6.) 02 Aug 2018 09:35:20
Oil fans have been saying this for years. Lol but they have young depth in every position except maybe left wing. And who knows with goaltending, for any team really.
There young established NHLers are McDavid, Draisaitl and RNH. They have Puljujarvi and Yamamoto coming up with high potential. Young depth players in Khaira, Strome, Rattie and Aberg. (Not a fan of Cagguila)
On D they have a Nurse, Larsson and Klefbom as young established NHLers. They also have Bouchard, Bear and Jones who are young with high potential. Benning also a young depth D with some potential.
A question mark in net with Talbot (statistically he’s been solid/ average and should bounce back next season) but Stewart Skinner has a lot of potential.

Once some young guys step into roles, a couple bad contracts are off the books and they can sign some support players Oil could be a good team.


7.) 02 Aug 2018 21:04:23
I think I’d actually take buffalo over Toronto on my 2nd thoughts.


8.) 02 Aug 2018 21:15:35
If sabres forwards pan out, they won’t be as good as Toronto’s forward group maybe, but more than good enough. Plus they have high end d potential that we don’t have in Dahlin. But they really need to figure out goaltending. If the forwards take the next step and they get even slightly above average goaltending they will be good.


9.) 02 Aug 2018 23:49:23
I guess vbb’s is not entitled to his opinion triplets? Tampa is a good team but there are many others and there’s usually some underdogs that step up.


10.) 03 Aug 2018 00:14:40
Now added skinner, Buffalo should be pretty good I’m a year or two.


11.) 03 Aug 2018 05:28:09
Give them another year they look much better with Jack Hughs as the 2c.


12.) 03 Aug 2018 07:49:00
@Leafs17: So me saying props for ranking Team X over Team Y means me saying VB isn't entitled to his opinion?
You're really on the next level of stupid, pal.


13.) 03 Aug 2018 10:10:57
We know you’re a lightning fan pal. What were you getting at then? You must agree with vbb's.


14.) 03 Aug 2018 14:46:04
@TheTriplets I understand it’s an Outlandish opinion I’d just rather have a Eichel, Middelstad and Dahlin core then Stamkos, Kucherov And Hedman Core. Also I’m assuming they draft another star next season and grab a good goalie. But the Sabres don’t have Vaisalvsky that’s for sure.


15.) 04 Aug 2018 16:57:52
@Leafs17: What has me being a Lightning fan to do with this? I just said its a wild idea to think BUF has a better future outlook than TB, because those teams haven't been anywhere near each other the last ~5 years. While I agree that BUF is an up and coming team, there are no signs of TB slowing down, with them still having a relatively young team as well as one of the deepest prospect pools in the league.

@VB: How is this core better than TBs? Like, even assuming absolutely perfect development curves for the 3 Sabres, neither is going to be better than any of the TB players, no?
Eichel is really good, but will he ever be better than Stamkos? If so, it's prolly a coin toss. I like Mittelstadt as a prospect but will he ever score 100 points in the NHL? We don't know, but how would he ever be better than Kuch is right now? Dahlin is 18, if he develops perfectly he'll be as good as Hedman one day.
See what I'm saying? While all 3 TB players are already proven superstars, those BUF players are sure super talented but they need everything to go super well, just to be on the same level as the TB players.


16.) 05 Aug 2018 01:40:04
Fair enough triplets, I agree with you. I just don’t think you would’ve given vbb’s props had he put Buffalo over Toronto, but we all know he wouldn’t do that.


17.) 06 Aug 2018 08:25:43
Well my "props" were sarcastic anyways. It was meant like "thats a weird thing to do, VB"


 

 

22 Jul 2018 20:18:12
Trouba - 5.5 mil x 1 year.

Appearntly is a UFA at seasons end. If like such, doesn’t his value diminish slightly?

TopShelfSlappers

1.) 22 Jul 2018 20:32:57
Seriously? He just got a one year deal, And is now a UFA after this upcoming season? Thought he would still be a RFA.


2.) 22 Jul 2018 21:22:44
No, Trouba is still RFA after this contract is up.


3.) 22 Jul 2018 21:22:47
YEah was unsure of it to @yup

Saw it on a trustworthy IG source, that's why.


4.) 22 Jul 2018 22:25:33
@topshelf,
It doesn't surprise me that you don't understand simple, basic contract rules.


5.) 23 Jul 2018 05:23:07
Doesn’t surprise me that memarcusjoe doesn’t know what a ‘grammatical redundancy’ is.


6.) 23 Jul 2018 11:40:28
@Marcus

Doesn’t surprise that ne you’d probabky think that trouba is worth the sun and the moon and you can’t even argue with logical points.


 

 

 

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21 Oct 2018 12:27:11
Dump the 4th to a2nd imo. Brook (the dman right) is good, Scherbak is basically Kapanen 2.0 which i don't mind and Petry at 50% is solid for our blueline. Just bump that pick. You might need a little more because teams normally don’t trade young blossoming players to rivals.

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17 Oct 2018 14:43:23
Vegas laughs at you.

Ottawa deal is okay, but i don't think EDM does ir.

If Parayko>>Nylander, that won’t get him either.

Id take thatdeal for Ny imo.

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17 Oct 2018 01:47:52
Sold for me imo.

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17 Oct 2018 00:00:50
I think Nurse/ Pulj+a 2nd may be better than throwing in Jones imo. Leafs take it if its Jones, idk if EDM would. Seeing that your an Oiler fan, if you want Nylander/ Gardiner, I think that's a fair swap, Nylander >> Pulj, but Nurse >> Gardiner.

As for the Petrovic deal, I think that's not bad, I just don't know if Florida does it. That 1st is a great asset, but idk if they'd have enough cap to accommodate Lucic with Barkov/ Hub/ Ekblad deals. But if they do, I think that's pretty good.

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16 Oct 2018 12:37:50
Kap is better. Speed and skill>>>> big with minimal skill.

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