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06 Jun 2019 01:19:13
Just a little tidbit,
Aaron Portzline of The Athletic reported that Jack Roslovic had fired his agent, and he had also requested a trade during the season due to a ‘lack of playing time’

Could Trouba and Roslovic potentially both be on the move?

TopShelfSlappers

1.) 06 Jun 2019 14:38:03
The Roslovic rumour was proved as false within the hour.


2.) 06 Jun 2019 15:01:48
I hope to see Roslovic centering the 2nd line between Ehlers and Laine which lessens the need for a trade involving Trouba for a 2nd line center. Only if Maurice would give Ross a chance.


 

 

30 May 2019 23:28:51
As per Friedman&McKenzie, Zaitsev has requested a trade, and the Leafs are attempting to facilitate one.

According to McKenzie, the Leafs don't want to retain salary, however, there are 'multiple suitors' for Zaitsev.

The return is likely to be minimum, barring an insane move, but this kinda confirms that, potentially, Toronto could get out of Zaitsev's contract without having to offload a ton of prospects/ picks/ roster players. Like, we speculated that it would cost at least a 1st to get rid of him, and tbh, after these reports, I doubt that's the case [Gudbranson got traded for Pearson, so guys who we perceive as negative value may still have value to certain GM's].

I could imagine a team like Ottawa taking on Zaitsev, with a sweetner of like Connor Brown and a 3rd for some minimal piece. Cause although there are suitors, I don't think Toronto will be able to squeak away without retaining salary. But, even without retaining, it is possible that none of Bracco/ Liljegren/ 1st go to facilitate a Zaitsev move.

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1.) 30 May 2019 23:42:57
The biggest problem with getting a team to take Zaitsev is that he has 5 more years on a contract he isn't worth. As a 6/ 7 d-man earning $4.5 mil per he will become a millstone around the neck of any rebuilding team in years 3, 4 and 5.


2.) 31 May 2019 01:18:26
Anyone know why he asked to be traded? Seems a little weird doesn't it?


3.) 31 May 2019 01:50:22
As much flak as Zaitsev gets for being overpaid, the Leafs are so devoid of defensive depth on the right side I’m not sure they are better off without him. Hainsey is 200 years old, and I don’t even know who else they had on the right side (I remember they tried Muzzin for a bit but it didn’t really pan out and they need him to replace Gardiner’s minutes on the left side) .


4.) 31 May 2019 03:39:45
I'd rather take back phaneuf.


5.) 31 May 2019 03:42:45
but with dorion and melnyk running the show i guess anything is possible.


6.) 31 May 2019 04:04:28
That’s interesting to me. He got over paid and he’s the one that wants out?


7.) 31 May 2019 11:06:22
Apparently he has issues with how he’s being used (sounds like he’s not the biggest Babcock fan) . If the Leafs can’t find a suitable trade and he bolts back to the KHL then you know there were bigger problems there than what was reported.


8.) 31 May 2019 14:13:03
He’s underrated because he’s overpaid he’d crack any roster beside maybe Columbus/ Carolina as 5/ 6th dman.


9.) 31 May 2019 15:03:13
VB that’s fine but people aren’t going to pay to take on an overpaid bottom pair d man, they’d need incentive. Personally I think a first is a lot to give up to move a contract without a decent pick coming back.


10.) 01 Jun 2019 09:03:32
Bruh to take on zaitsev the sweetener won’t be just brown and a 3rd lol it’ll be more substantial than that. He’s pretty brutal and leafs sure kicked theirselves in the butt giving him that contract. I honestly can’t even think of any team who would want him tbh similar to looch 😂.


11.) 01 Jun 2019 09:16:08
@Habby

From what I read, Zaitsev does not like how critical Toronto media is. But media is only critical because he plays so very bad. Is ok he doesn’t make points if he plays good defense. But he doesn’t play good defense either.


 

 

29 May 2019 00:28:05
Kasperi Kapanen to the Colorado Avalanche in exchange for Samuel Girard.

I was debating between Zadorov and Girard, but I feel as though Kapanen has enough value to pull in Girard. Considering Colorado is likely going to draft Bowen Byram with #4 [I don't think they'd pass on him since Turcotte's likely going to be gone], they'd have Makar/ Byram/ Barrie/ Zadorov/ Timmins/ Johnson/ Girard as their defence in the future.

Since Colorado could use some scoring aside from the top line, Kapanen could work alongside Kerfoot as solid secondary scoring. And really, it doesn't hurt Colorado's blueline, nor does it hurt Toronto's wing depth.

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1.) 29 May 2019 05:33:58
I think it’s probably close. The expansion draft might give Colorado some incentive to trade a D since they have over 4 quality guys.


2.) 29 May 2019 10:05:53
Good trade


3.) 29 May 2019 10:57:53
I like Kappy but I doubt Colorado bites. Girard is more proven and younger so it's kinda hard+ a defensemen wich means he hasn't fully develop yet. Wouldn't be surprised if he becomes a 40+ point defensemen.


4.) 29 May 2019 23:46:28
first of all byram won't be passed by chicago, so that kinda ends everything you were saying about their future. second i don't watch girad enough but i do like kap, so maybe is close? interesting post though.


 

 

19 May 2019 15:35:26
Just a little idea:

Toronto Trades: Patrick Marleau (6.25M x 1 Year) + Connor Brown (2.1M x 1 Year) + Jeremy Bracco (AHL)

Arizona Trades: Conditional 1st Round Pick

Condition: If Marleau is bought out by Arizona, no pick is awarded to Toronto.

In essence, Arizona swallows 6M off of Marleaus salary for a top9 forward in Brown and a PPG guy in the AHL in Bracco. This is similar to Grubauer+Orpik for 2nd+3rd, however, the return with Marleau is less because Toronto doesn’t acquire anything in return. The Conditional 1st is there for one reason: to ensure that Marleau waives his NTC; Arizona won’t want to give up the 1st, so they can buy him out and he can return to Toronto, just like Orpik did.

Toronto does this to save 8M in cap, and we don’t disrupt the locker room as Marleau would return like Oprik on a team friendly 1 year deal. It isn’t considered cap circumvention, its just frowned upon.

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1.) 19 May 2019 17:29:19
Zero chance Arizona would consider putting their first on the line for this and zero chance Marleau waives to go to Arizona. The league has also closed the Orpik loophole, so this would be cap circumvention.


2.) 19 May 2019 20:45:30
Marcus, i didn't realize that it isn't circumvention. And they really aren’t putting their first on the line because its literally just there to make sure Marleau gets bought out. And Marleau would waive to be bought out.

And I’m just curious, how did the league fix the Orpik-loophole?


3.) 19 May 2019 20:48:29
Cause I read from a Washington source that the move McLellan did was only considered ‘really good’. The NHL investigated and found nothinh that was wrong with it, cause the rule states that a team cannot buyout and then resign. Trading, being bought out and resigning is different, at least from the rules i’ve seen. Idk if they changed it.


4.) 19 May 2019 21:50:55
I guess they haven't really changed it, but they said they will monitor these situations closely. Apparently, the league was satisfied with the explanation that Washington had no intention of re-signing Orpik after Colorado originally bought him out since that would be cap circumvention.

So, with what you are planning, the league would easily discover the original intent and veto the deal. Which is why I can't see Marleau agreeing to it.

How does the first guarantee he is bought out? Why can't they just use their 7th or something worthless?


5.) 19 May 2019 22:12:20
maybe toronto can work something out with San jose.


6.) 20 May 2019 04:09:33
Pretty fair value wise but cap wise no and i don't think Marleau would waive either


7.) 20 May 2019 16:40:00
Oh @Marcus, the first was kinda included rather than future considerations that way Arizona knows that they have to buy him out, and Marleau too knows of this. So that way, he gets bought out and allows for himself to find the best possible solution, most likely back with Toronto by late summer.

And i do agree that the NHL will monitor this stuff, but since the buyout will be paid within the cap (not like Lecavalier when they tried to send him to Toronto for a buyout and it got vetoed) itll probably still work.


8.) 20 May 2019 22:15:43
Marleau envokes his NTC and says NOPE.


 

 

12 May 2019 19:05:20
Edmonton Oilers Acquire:
Mathieu Perreault [4.125 Million x 2 Years]
Dmitry Kulikov [4.3 Million x 1 Year]

Winnipeg Jets Acquire:
Kris Russell [4.0 Million x 2 Years]
Sam Gagner [3.1 Million x 1 Year]

Edmonton acquires the best player in the deal [Perreault], while taking on appx. 1 Million more in salary.

Winnipeg frees up 1 Million in salary and acquires a stop-gap blueliner in Russell, considering they'll lose Myers, Chiarot, Beau and potentially Trouba.

Essentially, a change of scenery for all four players involved.

TopShelfSlappers

1.) 12 May 2019 20:13:12
I don’t think this trade makes the Oilers better and I think if they trade these two players they need to save cap.


2.) 12 May 2019 20:22:23
This trade doesn't help the Jets at all as Russell and Gagner would not make the Jets better. I can see Perreault being part of a bigger trade to get the Jets a player they really need.


3.) 12 May 2019 23:01:23
No thanks from Winnipeg. The Jets can't afford to take on two cap dumps.


4.) 13 May 2019 00:27:29
What's this kings ransom perrault going to get? hasn't Winnipeg been trying to trade him for while?


5.) 13 May 2019 01:53:10
@Ebs, I think Perreault is decent enough to hold his own along McDavid, he's gotten 40 before, could be decent. At worst, its a lateral move tbh, but I can see why Kulikov for Gagner is an issue,

And @IJ, I doubt Perreault goes for anything close to market value. he's in the same cap tier as Russell tbh.


6.) 13 May 2019 02:52:25
Kinda seems like a sideways move for both teams. can't see it making either team better. And sure Edmonton would like to shed salary same as Winnipeg.


7.) 13 May 2019 03:06:32
Perrault is good player, yes. He is best player in trade, yes. So that is reason Jets do not make this trade. I do not think they need to save $1M so bad to make this trade.


8.) 13 May 2019 03:21:12
Brodie has sometimes been very good and sometimes very bad. If he's always on his game he's very good but isnt. But toffoli has had a rough go of it for a while.


9.) 13 May 2019 05:45:59
I’d guess Perreault might have a little more value than Russell and Gagner has more value than Kulikov. I agree it’s pretty neutral and I think the Oil can move Russell and save much needed cap. I don’t think Jets would do it either.


10.) 14 May 2019 05:59:33
Gagne would be in the Ahl in Winnipeg, while kulikov would be a 5-6 D on edm. Why not just swap those 2? Save Winnipeg 1mil and edm gets a defender.


11.) 14 May 2019 06:34:51
Because the Oilers don’t need a 4M 6-7th D. Lol they already have two over paid bottom pair D.


 

 

 

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20 Jun 2019 04:11:05
Anyone want to take a guess on the biggest riser for next season?

I’d easily put my money in the Rangers. If they buyout Staal/ Smith they’d have enoigh money to sign a toptier free agent. I think they’re going to be a major threat down the line.

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1.) 20 Jun 2019 13:48:54
Rangers will be a bottom 5 team imo. The Panthers, Devils, Sabres And Flyers will all be better and those are just 3 teams in the East that should make playoffs that didn’t last year. Rangers will be better then Ottawa and Detroit next year but that’s it in the east.

East-

For fallers I have: Islanders, Carolina and Columbus In the east

For risers I have Florida, Buffalo and Philadelphia with New Jersey just missing playoffs. IMO the last wildcard spot will be a battle between Buffalo and Montreal.

West-

For fallers I have Vegas

For risers I have Vancouver.


2.) 20 Jun 2019 14:35:41
At the risk of getting burned for like the 4th year in a row, I’d pick the Panthers (especially if they make some helpful splashes in free agency) .


3.) 20 Jun 2019 19:16:52
Sabres. I think they’re 2-3 solid pieces away from being an excellent team.


4.) 20 Jun 2019 23:57:13
VB Rangers have added Trouba Fox Anderson Kakko and Kravtsov over last year already and are rumoured to be taking a run at guys like Panarin in free agency. Far from a guarantee but they look poised to take a big step forward this year or next.


5.) 21 Jun 2019 00:28:14
I agree with NYR. Even if they don't sign Panarin or another good FA.
They're doing the rebuilding thing right and I think it'll start to pay off for them this season. Kakko doesn't hurt either.


6.) 21 Jun 2019 03:45:50
Yah I mean they’re definitely better but New Jersey is also getting better especially considering the Hart trophy winner in 2018 only played 37 games. Florida is a team that should be a cup contender with Tampa, Boston, leafs etc when they get Bob and Paniran same with Philadelphia imo. Buffalo has just been gradually improving and Next year I think Dahlin will really breakout showing he’s a top 5 dman in the game. ( maybe it’s my bias because I have him on my fantasy team but I think he’ll score about 70 points.


7.) 21 Jun 2019 07:00:59
If FLA gets Bob and Panarin, they def make the playoffs. Their D is still iffy, tho. I like PHI as well, but no way they're a cup contender (yet), imo. They have goalie trouble, too.
And to answer your question: Yes, it is your bias.


8.) 22 Jun 2019 02:33:23
Well Yup shares the same opinion so I’m to sure. Carter Hart is also a stud he’ll be the best goalie In the game. He’s Canada’s future in net. I’d Trade Freddy Andersson for him.


 

 

18 Jun 2019 01:03:29
Ohhhh, i'm going to savor this one boys.

#20 and Neal Pionk, a 4-5D on NEW YORK goes to WPG for Jacob Trouba.

HAHAH wheres Ekblad, Reinhart, Provorov, Nolan Patrick, Veleno, Hronek and the rest of the gang? Hell even Kadri wouldve been a better get 🤣🤣.

TopShelfSlappers

1.) 18 Jun 2019 02:50:43
Can’t wait to hear how the winnipeg homers spin this

Mental gymnastics incoming!


2.) 18 Jun 2019 04:10:43
You’ll soon find out from the jets boys that Pionk is next Bobby Orr.


3.) 18 Jun 2019 08:59:06
Poink for Patrick and Ghostsphere.

Memarcus Joe- that’s a good base maybe Philly adds a second.


 

 

06 Jun 2019 01:52:25
2013 Top15 Redraft? It's been 6 Years, so it seems like a good enough time to do one:

1. Nathan MacKinnon
2. Alex Barkov
3. Seth Jones
4. Sean Monahan
5. Bo Horvat
6. Max Domi
7. Elias Lindholm
8. Jake Guentzel
9. Shea Theodore
10. Jonathan Drouin
11. Darnell Nurse
12. Brett Pesce
13. Rasmus Ristolainen
14. Anthony Mantha
15. Josh Morrissey

HM: Pulock, Butcher, Burakovsky.

TopShelfSlappers

1.) 06 Jun 2019 07:43:17
Personally, I'd hands down take Guentzel and probably also Lindholm over Domi. Nurse and Mantha, too, possibly.


2.) 06 Jun 2019 20:31:21
1.Mackinnon
2.Jones
3.Barkov
4.Monahan
5. Guzentzel
6. Horvat
7. Domi
8. Lindbholm
9. Ristolainen
10. Pesce
11.Theodore
12. Morissey
13. Drouin
14.Mantha
15.Nurse.


 

 

03 Jun 2019 00:43:51
Patrick Marleau [33.5% Retention: 4.5M x 1 Year] + Connor Brown [2.1M x 1 Year] + 2020 2nd Round Draft Selection to the Los Angeles Kings in exchange for Kyle Clifford [1.6M x 1 Year]

Los Angeles was interested in Marleau, and perhaps, he is willing to waive his NMC since his family is moving back to the West Coast, and LA is likely to trade him to a contender at the trade deadline. They pick up Connor Brown and a 2nd for taking the contract; compared to Clifford, in an elevated role, Brown is likely to produce.

As well, since LA is unlikely to make the playoffs, if LA retains half of Marleau's salary at the deadline, [2.25M contract], they'd likely be able to acquire positive value for the player.

TopShelfSlappers

1.) 03 Jun 2019 05:23:19
Don’t understand why leafs retain it’s not like the extra cap space helps the kings they’re a bottom feeding team.


2.) 03 Jun 2019 12:36:50
@Vb, just to make another trade easier in the future. If the Kings trade Marleau, if they retained 50% on an already 30% retained player, they’d get more value than if it was just 50%. Entices LA to do the trade moreso.


 

 

25 Apr 2019 22:06:36
Okay, let's do something here:

Who are the Top Players on Canadian teams? let's just settle something. i'm not picking at Winnipeg, or Montreal or anyone. Just generally. Cause none of us have won since 93. We can't be picking at one another just because we ‘won one more series’

Im not going to rank, i'm just going to put in tiers and separate based on position:

Forwards:
T1: McDavid
T2: Johnny, Tavares, Matthews, Drais, Marner, Wheeler, Schief, Monahan, Petterson.
T3: Laine, Lindholm, Boeser, Domi, Tkachuk, Gallagher
T4: RNH, Ehlers, Horvat, Nylander

Defence:
T1: Rielly, Giordano, Chabot
T2: Buff, Weber
T3: Trouba, Morrissey, Muzzin, Petry

Goalie:
1. Price
2. Freddy
3. Hellebyuck.

TopShelfSlappers

1.) 26 Apr 2019 02:17:12
Let's do something else and just drop the whole subject. People are biased for their own team and your no different and I'm not saying it to put you down cause I am too. Just don't be like Jim was here and not be able to admit your bias and I really won't have an issue with you or anyone else.


2.) 26 Apr 2019 11:55:05
Oh i'm cool with that. I just don't want this whole ‘talk’ section to turn into a leaf hate forum cause that's what it kinda became in the previous posts. I’m not afraid to say that i’m biased and that the leafs as a whole didn’t have a superb playoff. But that shouldn’t mean the first thing that other fans do is come here and say ‘ha ha laffs 67 losers since 67 golfing szn’ when in reality, none of our teams have done anythinh since 93, and we shouldn’t have so much hate for one another.


3.) 26 Apr 2019 18:12:53
If Morrissey is on there I think Nurse and Klefbom should as well, maybe Larsson too.


4.) 27 Apr 2019 00:41:10
@ebs will admit that i forget them. i'd add klef and larsson to the third tier, and i'd put connor in the forward group as well.


 

 

 

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25 Jun 2019 23:53:05
VB man, come on, these takes are trash mate.

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23 Jun 2019 01:51:00
Stop this nonsense, this ain't close to enough for Barrie.

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22 Jun 2019 22:38:22
Who said Marleau would net Positive? Marcus, everyone can see the salt in you, because the Jets have done sh*t within the last week, you turn to leaf hating, ha.

I will admit, this is higher than I would’ve thought; I would’ve thought it would be like Bracco + Brown as a sweetener, or A 2nd++, but I think the only guy who thought Marleau would net positive is Pinny, so don’t generalize all leaf fans lmao.

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20 Jun 2019 22:24:44
'a 3rd or 4th should do it for Kadri' LMAO.

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20 Jun 2019 22:13:11
I think Toronto would prefer not to trade KAdri within the division, especially to Ottawa/ Montreal, but really, considerinh the down year Kadri had, I don’t think its a terrible offer. Probably need a bit more and probably from a diff team but not awful.

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