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19 Feb 2018 00:29:40
Minor Tinkering Ideas:

Niklas Jensen and Luke Glendening and Johan Franzen to the Toronto Maple Leafs in exchange for Matt Martin and Josh Leivo and Roman Polak and a 2019 2nd Round Draft Pick.

if that doesn't work out.

Oscar Lindberg to the Toronto Maple Leafs in exchange for Eric Fehr and a 2019 3rd Round Draft Pick.

- Jensen was touted well last year but has struggled this year. He could use a good team like Toronto to get back on the right track. And, he's a RHD. Glendening is rumored to be going to Toronto for some time, and his cap is a bit, but its an upgrade on 4C for the next few years. Toronto takes on Franzen and stuffs him on LTIR, basically saving Detroit 4 million off of their own books.
- Detroit takes back Matt Martin at full as a compliment to Toronto taking Glendening at full, and Franzen at full (despite Franzen being thrown on LTIR) . Detroit also receives a decent forward who could be a top 9 guy, and if Detroit decides to sell off big-time, then he could be a guy who could step up into a bigger role. And they get a 2nd.


The Vegas trade simply provides insurance for the playoffs. Lindberg isn't doing very well in Vegas (9 points in 55 games), and Vegas would gladly take a 3rd for him. They have tons of guys in the bottom 6 anyway.


1.) 19 Feb 2018 02:56:45
Franzan is ocerpaid and has term. That would be a bloody nightmare of a trade. Jensen is a winger that starts 70of his shifts in th offensive zone. I like Glendening. he is a strong penalty killer and plays 3min a nigth on the pk.

Oscar lindberg can stay in vegas.

2.) 19 Feb 2018 07:41:47
Franzen gets thrown on LTIR and i think insurance covers the money. I just don't see why Detroit would trade him because they obviously won't get value and since he doesn't impact them at all not worth paying to move.

3.) 19 Feb 2018 08:56:25
@howling stone. He said Niklas Jensen who is a winger from Denmark Who I believe is back playing in Europe. But who he meant was Nick Jensen, an American defensman playing for the red wings.

4.) 19 Feb 2018 12:13:20

Yeah, meant Nick Jensen. My bad.

5.) 20 Feb 2018 15:58:29
I think jbs hits the nail on the head, franzen on LTIR isn't costing the wings a dime so right away its like what's the point?



17 Feb 2018 17:55:44
Since Glendening has been reported as a Leafs target:

Matt Martin and a 4th Round Pick to the Detroit Red Wings in exchange for Luke Glendening.

Glendening have appx. the same total salary remaining, except Martin makes 700k more, while Glendening has 1 more year. Glendening is a better player than Martin, so Toronto adds the fourth. However, Detroit dirches the extra year of the contract, which is good. Glendening becomes Torontos 4C for the next four ish years, and we don't have to worry about fillinv the void again.




09 Feb 2018 11:13:31

2018 1st Round Draft Pick + Josh Leivo + Nikita Soshnikov + Roman Polak to the Arizona Coyotes in exchange for Niklas Hjalmarsson + Brad Richardson.

- Leivo will get a chance to play in Zona 100%. He could possibly be a top line/ second liner on a bad team, however, if he looks good, he could be a pretty good add-in. I've always rooted for him as a Leaf fan, and in the right oppurtunity, I thi k he's a 30+ point man. Sosh is a wild card, but is most likely going to end up as a gritty 10 point guy. Lol.

- Hjalmarsson fits into everything Toronto needs. Tough, stay at home blueliner with cup experience. he's the perfect blueliner. Richardson hasn't done much, and with his contract, he's maybe worth a 4th at the deadline. However, he's an upgrade on Dominic Moore imo.

And honestly, if Patches' value is a 1st + a prospect + a roster body, I would think Hjalmarsson's would be less. And imo, this is what it would take.

Zach Hyman - Auston Matthews - William Nylander
Patrick Marleau - Nazem Kadri - Mitch Marner
James van Riemsdyk - Tyler Bozak - Connor Brown
Leo Komarov - Brad Richardson - Kasperi Kapanen

Ron Hainsey - Jake Gardiner
Niklas Hjalmarsson - Morgan Rielly
Nikita Zaitsev - Travis Dermott

This actually looks like a really, really well balanced team. And Hjalmarsson is signed on for 2018/ 19 as well.


1.) 09 Feb 2018 14:13:38
Not too bad. I’m just reluctant to give up a first round pick in a deal for a defenseman unless it’s a 27 minute+, do everything horse. Not that a first will get that guy, but that we could do a package to get him including prospects and picks. This definitely makes us more prepared for the Bruins and lightning without losing anything but Polak off the current roster which is good. I’m neutral on it which means I must think it’s pretty fair. Just not my ideal fit.

2.) 09 Feb 2018 16:16:37
Be surprised if hjalmarson gets that much, he was pretty much straight across for Connor Murphy, then has not had a good year, plus missed more games this year then the rest of his career combined. Don't think he'd get a first anyway.



07 Feb 2018 01:48:26
Zemgus Girgensons + Josh Gorges (25% Retained) to the Toronto Maple Leafs in exchange for Nikita Soshnikov + Calle Rosen + Dominic Moore + 2017 3rd Round Pick.

Girgensons is playing pretty bad right now. But he has played decent, like, in 2014? Ish? Maybe he can revitalize his career in Toronto? Even if he doesn't, he's a better fourth line centre than Moore right now, and better than Gauthier. And this allows Aaltonen to stay in the AHL for a year after this. And Zemgus could slot into 3C if Bozak leaves. For Buffalo, they have centre depth. Eichel. ROR. Reinhart. Larsson. And Casey Mittelstadt coming up. They can afford to give up Zemgus. As for Gorges, he's basically a slight upgrade over Polak, although not much. Still, I'd rather see Gorges than Polak, cause Babs will play him over Carrick 100%. And for Buffalo, they get a middling pick, two decently young europeans (Sosh can actually become something, Rosen looked decent but he may just be AHL caliber), and a guy they can replace Zemgus with for the time being.

Zach Hyman - Auston Matthews - William Nylander
Patrick Marleau - Nazem Kadri - Mitch Marner
James van Riemsdyk - Tyler Bozak - Connor Brown
Leo Komarov - Zemgus Girgensons - Kasperi Kapanen

Ron Hainsey - Morgan Rielly
Jake Gardiner - Josh Gorges
Nikita Zaitsev - Travis Dermott

*If that isn't enough, i'm willing to up the third to a second (the lower of the SJS/ TOR pick) . I'd like Girgensons, cause I feel he's only playing bad cause he's on a bad team.


1.) 07 Feb 2018 14:03:13
I would be all for this deal as a toronto fan.

2.) 07 Feb 2018 14:25:22
#1 I highly doubt sabres trade Girgensons for that.

#2 josh George’s was already technically traded to Toronto from MTL and said he wouldn’t go. I know a lot has changed with the roster of the leafs since then, but I don’t think it was a decision about winning vs losing because he chose buffalo over here lol I think it was more a personal decision and doubt that has changed.

3.) 07 Feb 2018 15:16:54

True. Maybe his decision changes though, if Torontos the only biter on him at the deadline? Cause he'd probably wanna get out of the hellhole known as Buffalo. Lol. And if it isn't enohgh, maybe bump the third to the second? I can't see Zemgus worth any more than that - he only has 9 points this year anyway.

4.) 07 Feb 2018 16:59:04
Yeah. I don’t think it’s a terrible offer, just think that they might bank on Girgenson bouncing back if those are the type of offers they’re getting for him.



05 Feb 2018 16:01:49
Not my words, but read from two (possible non-trustworthy) sources on twitter that the Leafs have offers for Tyson Barrie.

One source (rumorbreak) said:
1st + Carrick + Sosh + Johnsson for Barrie.

The other said/
1st + Sosh + Leivo for Barrie.

With rumblings of the Leivo/ Sosh trade requests, I wouldn't be surprised if both are traded, and possibly in a large deal like this. However, from my eyes, this is still underwhelming for Barrie. I would think that the Leafs would have to pony up:

1st + Kapenen + Sosh/ Leivo + Borgman/ CARrick ++

Idk. I mean, on this site Sekera+Maroon for Barrie was apperantly decent, so I wouldn't be shocked. But again. the thought isn't mine, however, i'd be all in for trading for a guy like barrie.


1.) 05 Feb 2018 16:43:26
Honestly pretty low ball offers for Barrie. Two players who can’t crack the leafs lineup and a later first I personally do not see Colorado biting on that at all but yeah you said you read these somewhere so who knows. But ya can’t see Colorado going for that. However your second trade does look better yes for sure.

2.) 05 Feb 2018 19:44:31
I don't think it's enough, but it isn't because those players can't crack the lineup. Leafs are just log jammed at those positions. On a team like Colorado they would likely be playing. But Barrie being a right handed dman on a decent contract is going to take quite a bit to aquire.

3.) 06 Feb 2018 23:28:57
Do not use Rumor Break as a source.




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19 Feb 2018 16:54:46
Just a random discussion point.

If you had to pick which five teams would dominate the course of the next five years, who would you choose?

Like, over the past five years, i'd say the dominant teams were:
- Pittsburgh
- Los Angeles
- Washington
- Chicago
- Anaheim/ Boston

(This is reg season and playoffs btw)

My picks for the next five years (no order) :

- Tampa Bay
- Winnipeg
- Toronto
- Nashville
- Philadelphia.


1.) 19 Feb 2018 16:57:47
Even though they are having a bad year, any team with McDavid I wouldn't count out. But ya, not a bad list .

2.) 19 Feb 2018 17:50:51
I like your list. Would probably change philly with St. Louis.

3.) 19 Feb 2018 19:50:08
True yeah, i'd have Edmonton prob like 6-7. Idk why, i jus see Philly having a really good future w their blueline future being almost as good as Carolina, and their forwards being better. Edmonton wouldve been top 5 a year ago for me 100%, but w the setback this year they dropped for me at least.

4.) 20 Feb 2018 09:55:01
Still think Pittsburgh cracks that list.

5.) 20 Feb 2018 14:10:50
The sharks seem like a constantly evolving team that isn't mentioned here.



16 Feb 2018 23:48:08
Unlikey scenario, but, heres three trades that I would like the Leafs to make prior to the deadline:

James van Riemsdyk to the Anaheim Ducks in exchange for a 2018 1st Round Draft Pick.

Ryan Dzingel to the Toronto Maple Leafs in exchange for Roman Polak, Jeremy Bracco and a 2019 3rd Round Draft Pick.

Ryan Strome to the Toronto Maple Leafs in exchange for a 2018 3rd Round Pick and Eric Fehr.

- Imo, this upgrades Toronto significantly. Dzingel may be worse than JVR, but JVR is simply not trusted by Babcock. Dzingel would be a better option on a Babcock-run Leafs team, and would allow Babcock to roll the Bozak line more often.
- As for the van Riemsdyk trade, I think a 1st is enough for him, imo. Maybe more, but considering the Ducks may not make the playoffs, I think an unprotected first is good enough. Plus, JVR helps with the Ducks woes on the left wing (Rakell, cogliano, Ritchie) . If he pushes them to the playoffs, then its worthwhile for Anaheim. And I believe Murray would be willing to make such to keep his team in contention.
- And, the Strome trade. gives him a chance to play near to home, and gives him a last chance to revive his career. As said by THG, he doesn't seem to be playing well, so a 3rd should be enough to acquire him. Fehr balances cap, and his deal ends at the end of the year, so he isn't that much of a cap dump.

Leaf Lineup:

Hyman - Matthews - Nylander
Marleau - Kadri - Marner
Dzingel - Bozak - Brown
Komarov - Strome - Kapanen

**This also gives Toronto a dual C/ W and a C. Two centres: a position which Toronto needs an upgrade in.


1.) 17 Feb 2018 04:07:38
I would be ok with losing JVR to gain a 1st. Kapanen seems to be a pretty good replacement. I don’t know enough about Dzingel to comment. I thought Bracco was supposed to be pretty good, although obviously unproven. I don’t like the Strome deal at all. Toronto will probably go after a veteran 4th line center like they did last year in Boyle. Hopefully someone with a nasty side. Out of all the UFA’s the leafs have, JVR can fetch the most and Kapanen can fill in so good post. We need Bozak and Komarov for the playoffs.



31 Jan 2018 01:09:53
Toronto could use some prospects at the centre position.

Rinat Valiev and Kerby Rychel to the San Jose Sharks in exchange for Maxim Letunov.

Letunov was at one point a touted prospect, but has jumped around, from STL to ARZ and is now in SJ. His first college years were very good, but he's slipped into mediocrity. SJ did trade away a 3rd and 4th for him, however, its seeming more and more like a mistake now. In exchange, San Jose gets two depth players, who could make more of an impact right now than Letunov, either on the Sharks or Barracuda. Valiev probably goes down, but Rychel has played well in the A, and could use a shot. As for Toronto, simply put, we need more centre depth. Even if Letunov becomes a nothing, its worth the small gamble.




19 Jan 2018 02:03:41
Fave player on every team?

Ana - Rakell
Arz - Dvorak
Bos - Pasta
Buf - Lehner
Cgy - Gaudreau/ Brodie
Car - Pesce/ Lindholm
Chi - Crawford
Col - MacKinnon
Cbj - Jenner
Dal - Seguin
Det - Mantha
Edm - Klefbom
Fla - Reimer
LA - Kopitar
Min - Dubnyk
Mtl - Galchenyuk
NJ - Hischier
NYI - Barzal
NYR - McDonagh
Ott - Karlsson
Phi - Ghost/ Prov
Pit - Kessel
SJ - Hertl
STL - Tarasenko
TB - Hedman
Tor - Kadri/ Rielly
Van - Boeser
Wsh - Backstrom
Wpg - Morrissey.


1.) 19 Jan 2018 08:22:43
Thats awesome.

2.) 20 Jan 2018 22:25:21
I’m assuming that for some teams, namely Florida, it’s more of a personality thing rather than a ability thing?



04 Jan 2018 23:37:18
Read this on twitter, so not my words. Also, was from a Sens page, not from Fridge or Dreger or anything.

Apparently though, Edmonton/ Ottawa had a deal in place with Hall straight up for Ceci. It had to pass through Melnyk first, and as that was pending, Hall was sent to Jersey for Larsson, thus negating the Ottawa deal.

Again, possibly not a trustworthy source, but if this was true:

A. Would Sens fans be genuinelly/ severely upset? And could Hall have been a player that would have taken Ottawa out of the dumps this year?

B. Does this concern Oiler fans? It did happen two years ago, so if I was an Oiler fan, it wouldn't, but does it kinda scare you that the GM who almost did this still sits at the top in Edmonton? Idk.


1.) 05 Jan 2018 05:44:08

Source isn't really trusted.

Also, I trust P. C with my team.

Cody Ceci is really under-rated and a pretty good top four defender.

2.) 05 Jan 2018 10:53:14
I think a lot of people, myself included, thought back then that Cici would be a lot better than he is now. Dodged a bullet there, wow. At that time, I wouldn't have liked the deal because even back then I thought Larsson had way more value than Cici. I would have been pissed.

I would be more pissed my owner has to be involved in everything, even in this blatantly obvious yes situation. Thank god

I've liked a lot of my GMs moves and I've disliked a few. I never liked Hall and our D was absolutely terrible crap so I liked that trade from day one. I know some haters laugh at me, oh well.
I wish he made a deal for a D man at the start of the season (like a Colin Miller) when knew Sekera would be out for half the season, Gryba and Auuvitu are not full time guys. Decent #7 fill ins tho. And I would have made a trade for a Hoffman or Patches type winger at around the 20 game mark. Now is too late.

3.) 05 Jan 2018 14:04:50
Just confirmed its from Dregs. Never mind, lol. My info was off, the source got it from Dreger on TSN.




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22 Feb 2018 11:20:27
No from Tampa, unless EK has an extension.

- that's three first round picks first of all.
- Sergachev has all the makings of a top 2 dman (not as good as EK but still the makings of a top 2)
- Point is 21 and PPG. don't think theyd be inclined to give him up.

Imo, without an extension, that's a definite no from Tampa. Even with an extension, I don't know if the cap works, considering EK and Ryan would total about 17 million, while the others total less then 3 million.

Just can't see Tampa tearing down what they've built to take 1.5 years of a guy and an enormous cap dump. I mean, if this happened and I was a TB fan, i'd be pretty pissed.




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22 Feb 2018 01:56:40
Nah from Carolina.

Hanifin is the prized piece of the Canes blueline. If they trade him, itll be for a stud centre, not a winger.




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21 Feb 2018 01:41:17
Oh yeah, and McGinn >> Leivo. Just looked up the stats, lol,




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21 Feb 2018 01:39:56
Yes you are blind lmao.

'Best corsi dman'? he plays sheltered minutes, and he doesn't pass the eye test much better than most 6-7 dmen. he's behind Hanifin, Pesce, Slavvin, Bean, McKewon, Fleury and TVR.

And I said Leivo has the value of a 3rd. i never said he was worth nothing, lol. But he's played minimal games, and considering Sosh only got a 4th (w 57 games played), I can't see Leivo getting more than a 3rd.

And yes, matt martin has no value. 2.5 million for a slow grinder who causes penalties? No thanks for most teams. The isles want him for sentimental purposes i guess, and cause their GM is Garth Snow. Lol.

JVR is not what Carolina needs. First off, if they're trading a dman its for a centre with term. Not a winger. Get it through your head. They already have a streaky scoring winger in Skinner. They don't need a defensively liable RENTAL in JVR. and by god, JVR does not get you Faulk! Faulk has term, is a dman and is a two way dmen. JVR is a good player, no doubt, but he has one year left, is going to command a hefty contract and is going to get a lot of term, and that contract will bite whatever team signs him in the a**, if its longer than 5 years. And look at Faulks deal. 4 million. Dmen like him don't grow on trees. If Carolina is trading Faulk, its for a good centre.

Okay, so let's just say Kruger and Jooris and Martin and Carrick cancel out. Cause Kruger and Martin are bith cap dumps, but Krugers contract is better than Martins, so Carrick>Jooris but that cancels. McGinn and Leivo cancel (both depth guys) . So basically, JVR and a 2nd for Faulk and a 6th. NO FROM CAROLINA.

Dont act smart pinny. you're wrong j admit it.




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20 Feb 2018 20:55:43
Im a Leaf fan. JVR doesn't go for that much, are you insane? Sure that's what the Leafs want for him - they won't get it tho. You think the Rangers are going to get a 1st and a top prospect for Nash? F NO. JVr would get a 1st and a guy like Drew Stafford back, not more. Plus, JVR wo an extension is not at all worth Faulk. Carrick is meh, he won't even crack Carolinas top 6, Leivos a good piece but his max value is like a 3rd, martin is a cap dump no way around it and a second is a second.

So a UFA forward (rental), a 6-7 dman, a cap dump, a 2nd and a guy wortha 3rd is worth a top 2 dman ++? No.





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