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22 Nov 2017 08:31:39
A couple of Oilers trades:

1.

Max Pacioretty + Brendan Gallagher to the Edmonton Oilers in exchange for Ryan Nugent-Hopkins + Ryan Strome + 2018 1st Round Draft Pick (lottery protected for 2018; non-lottery protected for 2019) + 2019 2nd Round Pick.
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Patches and Gallagher immediately become two of the best wingers on Edmonton. Drais can move back to centre, and the Oil can finally have spread-out offence.

As for Montreal, they get a 1st, which is a nice asset (in terms of future, and in terms of trade bait if need be), and RNH, who could be a nice first line centre, but if Montreal starts to fall back, then he can be a valuable trading asset come the deadline.

2.

Kris Russell + Kailer Yamamoto to the Philadelphia Flyers in exchange for Travis Sanheim + Scott Laughton.

Philadelphia then sends Kris Russell (25% Retention) to the Chicago Blackhawks in exchange for Cody Franson and a 2018 2nd Round Pick.


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This one probably won't sit well with Oil fans, and makes sense why. Yamamoto is promising, and has shown that he can possible be a good NHLer. However, I check nhl. com, and I saw that Edmonton's leading scorer for blueliners is Oscar Klefbom, with six point - and a minus ten rating, Yes, Sekera is out, but really, is he going to be that offensive blueliner? In my opinion, I don't see it that way. Sanheim is a quality blueliner, who, in the future, can be a nice offensive dman. Klefbom is more two-way, Adam Larsson is defensive, Darnell Nurse is defensive, Sekera is middling, and aging, and idk about Benning, but from his stats, he doesn't look like an offensive blueliner. Kris Russell is defensive, but with Nurse and Larsson being younger and most likely better, Russell can be expandable. Plus, with another blueline coming in, someone needs to be dropped.

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Lineup:

Patrick Maroon - Connor McDavid - Brendan Gallagher
Max Pacioretty - Leon Draisaitl - Drake Caggiula
Milan Lucic - Mark Letestu - Michael Cammalleri
Jujhar Khaira - Scott Laughton - Zach Kassian

Oscar Klefbom - Adam Larsson
Travis Sanheim - Darnell Nurse
Matt Benning - Eric Gryba/ **Andrej Sekera

Cam Talbot
Laurent Brossoit

Yeah, its not ideal. But when you have only 50 goals through 20 games, somethings got to change. that's 30 goals behind Toronto, on 2 fewer games. I still believe that Edmonton has a better nucleus than Toronto, but the scoring needs to be there. And as much as many wouldn't want it, change needs to happen, cause Mike Cammalleri ain't going to magically score 20 goals.

And all four teams mentioned (Philly, Chicago, Montreal and Edmonton) need some sort of change. And this could help.

TopShelfSlappers

1.) 22 Nov 2017 08:50:38
You put a lot of thought into it and i like it but i don't think oilers will give up yamamoto for that when he's proved more than sanheim in such a short period. I would dangle yamamoto to carolina to pry one of their of defencemen as they are looking for forwards. Also maybe coyotes could be an ideal trading partner if oilers want wingers i'm sure they could pry Dulair or Reider out for a good price. Good post man


2.) 22 Nov 2017 15:07:01
They aren't trading Yamamoto for that. Lol.


3.) 22 Nov 2017 16:04:33
Nurse doesn't play the right side. Benning doesn't play the left side. Letestu isn't good enough for full time third line center. He's good for a few games fill in, but he's great at his full time fourth line center role with PP and PK time.


 

 

09 Nov 2017 22:02:05
The Duchene three-way deal just past. And I can't see a move like that happening again, with those kinds of names at least. However, a smaller three way deal could happen.

Toronto Maple Leafs Trade:
(C) Tyler Bozak - 50% Retained.
(LW) Joshua Leivo
2018 2nd Round Pick (lower of SJ/ TOR)

Vancouver Canucks Trade:
(D) Eric Gudbranson
(C) Alex Burmistrov
(LW) Thomas Vanek

Anaheim Ducks Trade:
(C) Dennis Rasmussen
(LW) Max Jones
2018 2nd Round Pick

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Toronto Maple Leafs Acquire:
(D) Erik Gudbranson - sign to 4 year/ 14 million extension.
(C) Alex Burmistrov

Vancouver Canucks Acquire:
(LW) Max Jones
(C) Dennis Rasmussen
2018 2nd Round Pick (TOR/ SJ)
2018 2nd Round Pick (ANA)

Anaheim Ducks Acquire:
(C) Tyler Bozak - 50% Retained.
(LW) Thomas Vanek
(LW) Joshua Leivo

Why for Toronto?
Bozak is excess offence. Marleau has started playing centre. They need defensemen, shutdown guys nonetheless. Gudbranson is an RFA after this season, and he doesn't seem all that wanted in Vancouver - apparently, he was offered to Florida for Demers. He, alongside Gardiner, could be nice, as he plays defence with no offence, and Gardiner plays offence with holes on defence. Leivo is excess depth, which is nice, but with Sosh's Russia Clause, I'd like to see Sosh as the depth guy - he's still servicable. The pick is eh.

Why for Vancouver?
Yeah, they're doing good. But they don't have the high-octane team that'll propel them anywhere in the playoffs. It's better to tank now. Trading three guys who have decent values due to good starts will bring in a good haul. Erik Gudbranson is a guy who they weren't keen on, Vanek was an offseason addition, and Burmistrov was another offseason addition. Getting the most out these guys from a desperate team is what is needed. And Anaheim is that desperate. Eaves, Getz and Kesler all missing time atm. Max Jones is a solid player who could be a nice 3rd liner checker in the future. 2nd Round Picks are nice to have, especially to stock the cupboard, and they could help if Vancouver wants to move up in the draft.

Why for Anaheim?
Desperation. Offence is bleeding. Derek GRANT is your fourth highest scoring player. You need offence in any way possible. This isn't a rebuilding or retooling team. This team is supposed to be a monster in the West. Adding patchwork guys like Bozak and Vanek helps in the short term to patch up the offensive woes, and when guys like Eaves/ Getz/ Kesler come back, they become rentals who will help on the playoff run. Josh Leivo is a nice incentive as well, as he'll probably stay on with the team as a third liner, even past this year. It's a lot to give up (former first rounder and a future second), but it's needed if Anaheim wants to get back in the race.

TopShelfSlappers

1.) 10 Nov 2017 04:31:59
Holy F this is great for the Leafs,
Both other teams say no.


2.) 10 Nov 2017 11:26:57
@Yup

But, i mean, Gudbranson is like 100% gone by the deadline - even THG said it. They have a new core of Tanev, Stecher, Hutton, Pouliot, Juolevi (next year at least) and Edler. I genuinely don't see how Vancouver makes out like bandits on this one. Toronto gives up an average of a 40+ point guy, a decent 3rd line guy and a 2nd for Gudbranson, who doesn't even have a point this year.

Vancouver gets a prospect and two seconds, which is a pretty good haul for three expiring contracts.

And anaheim is super desperate, look at their team. Max Jones won't crack the team for a while.

So please, just tell me why this trade is so 'holy f'in' in favour of Toronto. And please, tell me how I could improve it.


3.) 11 Nov 2017 00:19:22
Gubrandson isn’t great good bottom pairing dman.


 

 

05 Nov 2017 12:55:21
Two HOCKEY trades, to shake up the currently 8-7 Leafs.

As seen by yesterdays game, I believe that Josh Leivo has more skill right now, and is a better player than Kapanen. However, due to Kappy's age, everyone values him highly. So.

TRADE 1:

Philadelphia Acquires: Kasperi Kapanen
Toronto Acquires: Samuel Morin

Straight-up hockey trade. Allows Philly to play a better winger than Michael Raffl/ Matt Read, etc. And Sam Morin isn't the biggest loss in the world - look at Phillys defence : Radko Gudas, Travis Sanheim, Ghost, Robert Hagg, Philipe Myers coming up, etc. For Toronto, they get a tough young dman who can help clear the front of the net better than Roman Polak or Nikita Zaitsev can. And again, Leivo, Andreas Johnsson, Grundstrom, Bracco, Brooks, we aren't losing that big of a piece when we trade Kapanen.

TRADE 2:

Winnipeg Acquires: Jake Gardiner and a 2018 3rd Round Draft Pick.
Toronto Acquires: Tyler Myers (10% Salary Retained)

Another swap of players, with a bit of retention for a draft pick. As much as I am one of the Toronto fans who liked Gardiner, man, is there really any more space for him? Morgan Rielly is literally the same player as him, just better and younger, Nikita Saitsev is signed long-term and places the same as him, Liljegren coming up plays the same as him, even Dermott does. Toronto needs a strong dman, and that's what Myers is. Big, strong guy who can help clear the front of the net and help the team defensively. As much as long Gardiner hurts, we still have Nikita Zaitsev and Morgan Rielly now, and Liljegren, Dermott, Rossn, etc. for the future. As for Winnipeg, they get a steady puckmoving defenceman that they could use, since Toby Enstrom really isn't it anymore. Byfuglien, Chiarot and Myers are all more defensive, and Josh Morrissey is the only real puck-mover. Adding a guy like Gards could help guys like Dmitry Kulikov, etc.

- If these go through before the Vegas game on Monday, heres what I'd wanna see the lines as (for the single Vegas game) .

Zach Hyman - Auston Matthews - Mitch Marner (Babcock showed he didn't like Ny's game style in the Blues game)
Josh Leivo - Nazem Kadri - Connor Brown
James van Riemsdyk - Patrick Marleau - William Nylander
Matt Martin - Tyler Bozak - Leo Komarov

Tyler Myers - Morgan Rielly
Samuel Morin - Nikita Zaitsev
Connor Carrick - Ron Hainsey

Frederik Andersen.

TopShelfSlappers

1.) 05 Nov 2017 14:05:32
Your team is young. the will have issue's from time to time but as they get older the will find ways to boucle back give it time.


2.) 05 Nov 2017 14:05:37
Yes, Leivo has more offensive potential than Kapanen but Babcock prefers players who play a complete game and therefore values Kapanen ahead of Leivo. Leivo has proven to lack defensive ability while Kapanen is known for playing a 200 ft game. Doing the trade with Leivo would also work.


3.) 05 Nov 2017 19:43:27
I think both teams not names Toronto say no.
Add a bit more tho and might make them say yes.


4.) 05 Nov 2017 23:26:59
@Hckyfntc

I get what you're saying, but atm, I think Kapanen has more value than Leivo, even tho they may pan out the same, just one being a bit more defensive. To get a guy like Sam Morin back will be worth it for a guy like Kappy tho.

@Yup

Honestly, I think the first ones pretty fair, just cause both Sam Morin and Kappy haven't cracked an NHL roster full time. Both have been tweeners, and their respective teams have a lot of depth in the positions their in. I do agree with the Myers deal, and adding more. Maybe bump the 3rd to a 2nd? idk.


5.) 05 Nov 2017 23:26:59
@Hckyfntc

I get what you're saying, but atm, I think Kapanen has more value than Leivo, even tho they may pan out the same, just one being a bit more defensive. To get a guy like Sam Morin back will be worth it for a guy like Kappy tho.

@Yup

Honestly, I think the first ones pretty fair, just cause both Sam Morin and Kappy haven't cracked an NHL roster full time. Both have been tweeners, and their respective teams have a lot of depth in the positions their in. I do agree with the Myers deal, and adding more. Maybe bump the 3rd to a 2nd? idk.


 

 

04 Nov 2017 20:30:46
Tyler Bozak, Kasperi Kapanen, Jeremy Bracco, Connor Carrick and a 2017 2nd Round Pick to the Anaheim Ducks in exchange for Josh Manson and Kevin Bieksa.

- Anaheim needs NHL caliber forwards. Their centre core is depleted, and Bozak can fill that until Getz/ Kesler come back. If they wanna trade him, he'd get a 2nd+ at the deadline. If they wanna keep him when Getz/ Kesler come back, then yeah, more centre depth for them.
- Kapanen needs to get proper playing time. He's basically an NHLer who will never get NHL time due to immense forward depth in Toronto. In Anaheim, again, a team with forward depletion due to injury, Kapanen may be able to play well alongside a guy like Rickard Rakell. Plus, with Kappy, he's basically a sure thing. Worst-case, he's a third liner getting 30ish points. Best-case, he's a second liner getting 40-45ish points.
- Bracco is the opposite of Kapanen, could be a high end talent, or could be thnext Seth Griffith. Again, worth the risk for Anaheim.
- Carrick replaces Manson (although he is worse) . He is a stopgap top 6 guy who can puck handle pretty well.

- Manson is the blueliner who will partner with Zaitsy. Perfect rugged, shutdown guy. Not a big point producer, and not the best with everything, but a reliable top 4 guy. Worth it, even if you're giving up a 50 point guy, two pretty decent prospects and a 2nd, and taking back a cap dump.

TopShelfSlappers

1.) 05 Nov 2017 02:25:04
this is honestly a good deal for both teams.


2.) 05 Nov 2017 05:01:59
Why does every leafs post include these sub par players and prospects.


3.) 05 Nov 2017 05:56:19
uhh. Sens fan here. But is this not Absolutely Atrocious for TOR?


4.) 05 Nov 2017 09:22:48
Manson is the d man I’ve been hoping the leafs go after. Get it done!


5.) 05 Nov 2017 09:26:19
You're reaching Lindss. He’s not asking for Karlsson in return.


 

 

04 Nov 2017 12:38:49
Carl Gunnarson (15% Retention) to the Toronto Maple Leafs in exchange for Tyler Bozak.

Seems stupid, but St. Louis has a solid nucleus on its d-core, with Jay Bouwmester, Petro, Colton Parayko, Jordan Schmaltz as the top four for some time. They could use forward depth, and Bozak provides that as a third line guy who can move up or down when needed.

Toronto could use a second run with Gunnarson, who is a solid stay-at-home dman who doesn't do much in the offensive zone. He's a vet, and a Babcock style player - and he could be someone who mentors a guy like Nikita Zaitsev or Jake Gardiner. Like Ron Hainsey helping Morgan, Gunnarson could help one of them.

TopShelfSlappers

1.) 04 Nov 2017 18:38:09
Blues don't need another 3rd liner. Once Bergland comes back, (which he us skating now) blues will have a plenty of depth. Blues do not need the cap or the player with all of their young talent soon to be playing. Thompson, thomas, kyrou, kostin, blais.

I'm sure if Dunn continues to prove himself gunner could be had for a 2nd 2018 pick.


 

 

 

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10 Nov 2017 18:51:27
What would it cost to get Gudbranson to Toronto?

And what is Bozak's value?

TopShelfSlappers

1.) 11 Nov 2017 11:06:45
please no for gudbrannson and bozaks value has probably dropped quite a bit since he's been crap this year so he probably a 3rd, or B prospect.


2.) 12 Nov 2017 04:18:56
Marner.


3.) 12 Nov 2017 04:19:04
Lol. Just jokes just jokes.


4.) 12 Nov 2017 20:17:58
Gudbrandson is probably available for a 2nd and a prospect.


5.) 13 Nov 2017 05:31:51
I'm hearing Gudbranson is %100 available.


6.) 15 Nov 2017 22:43:23
He is definitely available since he was already traded back to Florida for demers before Demers nixed the trade with his NTC. Once that info was reported, all teams know he’s available and what the approximate cost to get him is.


 

 

07 Nov 2017 01:52:18
Last night's Duchene trade really proved something. Patience may really be key. I mean, look at three separate trades, all for established first line guys:

M. Duchene for S. Bowers (former 1st), S. Girard (former 2nd), V. Kamenev (former 2nd, A. Hammond, 1st, 2nd. 3rd.

P. Kessel for K. Kapanen, S. Harrington, N. Spaling, 1st, 3rd.

T. Hall for A. Larsson.

I mean, imo, out of the three trades, Colorado got the best return, for probably the least established and lowest valued of the three. Cause, Duchene had his 70 point year, what, 5 years ago? Last year he only had 40. When Kessel and Hall got traded, they had down years, but they were still mid-60 point guys. So yeah. I really do think Sakic's patience helped him - although I do find him rather lucky to pull such a large haul for a single player.

TopShelfSlappers

1.) 07 Nov 2017 02:28:22
In the Hall trade they also got an NHLer. Larsson was the perfect guy for them but yeah I feel if they waited they coulda gotten more.
Duchene and Kessel were a bit more similar IMO and yeah Sakic did a lot better but waiting too long I’m sure has bitten a lot of GM’s in the bud.


2.) 07 Nov 2017 04:24:36
Hall could've gotten a better return if they would've waited


 

 

28 Sep 2017 19:57:17
Okay since clearly I went over my limb, I wanna apologize. I'm extremely passionate and dislike the overhate that is seen over youtube, instagram and sometimes on this site. Sorry if I offended anyone or sounded like a holligan, baby or whiner.

Anyway, my question is.

Who are your top, idk, 30 nhl players? Currently, and entering next year. Not career-wise. I just want to see where you guys would rank the younger players, namely Matthews, Laine, Pastrnak, Drais. etc.

Again. not a hate post. i realize i probably got on peoples nerves by being the way i was. i apologize, and just wanna see what you guys think.

TopShelfSlappers

1.) 28 Sep 2017 22:06:06
Hard to put them in order. I feel Matthews and Laine could be top 30. Matthews is Laine more bubble. I don't think Pastrnak or Drais are top 30. The tough part with these young players is based on last year they could be on the bubble but we don't know if it that's who they are or if it was a fluke.


2.) 01 Oct 2017 20:42:29
Right now as a die hard leaf fan and I'm taking one player for 1 game I'm taking Crosby, Bergeron, Getzlaf, Karlsson, McDavid, Malkin and Towes over Mathews. Maybe doughty and Kopitar. And I don't like the idea of building teams around Wingers but you can make a strong argument for Kane, Sanko and Benn.


3.) 04 Oct 2017 00:11:16
I meant to say over Mathews.


 

 

19 Sep 2017 17:09:05
Better team for the future:

Carolina or Philadelphia?

TopShelfSlappers

1.) 19 Sep 2017 17:48:06
I dislike both teams and Philly more. I would maybe say Philly? It's pretty close tho.


2.) 19 Sep 2017 17:59:27
Yeah. It's close. Philly has a better mix of young players, canes best are mostly D. Both have a cpl decent prospect goalies. I'd say Philly by a hair if they keep their players. But canes have the possibility to be far better as they have more young D which are gold on the market and they can move those valuable assets to fill out the rest. Tough call so early.


3.) 19 Sep 2017 19:26:06
I like the Canes personally but Philly is the right answer here, they have hands down the best prospects in the pipeline right now.


 

 

11 Sep 2017 02:24:22
Ken Holland needs to be Axed. He thinks that Detroit has a shot at the playoffs. He keeps making irrational decisions in order to try and squeak into the playoffs. THey need to go full rebuild and annex all of their terrible contracts.

TopShelfSlappers

1.) 11 Sep 2017 14:06:24
I agree completely! Holland's head is so far stuck back in 2009, that he hasn't realized that the winning window is closing and signing underperforming veterans to try for a playoff run won't work!

Helm did not need to stay a Red Wing when we have young AA who has his speed but way better hands. He can learn the defensive style too if you wanted. Just train him but because of Holland's folly, we could lose a player who generates offense with less minutes, brings speed and skill and has some really good underlying statistics compared to really good players! He has a lot of potential and should be untouchable but because of Holland holding out on him, then we could lose one of our future best players.

So yes, Holland needs to go, hopefully we tank and then management won't renew his GM contract at therms of his last year this year.

Go Wings Go! Let the kids play!


2.) 11 Sep 2017 22:43:25
100% agree, esp since, even if they use their like 1% chance of making the playoffs, they won't come close to a first round win.


 

 

 

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23 Nov 2017 11:55:05
No from CBJ. Fayne has no value, and Atkinson = RNH imo.

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23 Nov 2017 00:53:04
No no no no.

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21 Nov 2017 22:22:42
Honestly, its intruguing, but if I could get euther Hanifin or McD, i'd choose Hanifin, simply cause of age. McDonagh is aging, and although he is still is in his twenties, i'd rather have someone who can stay with this team for the next 10 years+.

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20 Nov 2017 11:43:05
First ones not too bad imo.

Second one tho, Oil win. Skinner>>RNH, Vatanen>>Russell, Lindholm.

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20 Nov 2017 11:41:05
Usually, the team trading the best player loses the deal. Gaudreau is far and away the best player, and due to their rivalry, I'd say no from Flames.

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