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19 Jun 2018 20:53:18
Edmonton - Panarin

CBJ - 10th overall, Tyler Benson, Caleb Jones, 3rd round

Elliott Friedman reported that panarin isn’t willing to sign an extension with CBJ ‘at this time’ and so the jackets are seeing what type of trade market there is for him.

Oilers want a legit scoring winger to keep up with mcdavid, and CBJ gets more young assets to build a really good core. The pick would be necessary to make any deal for a player like panarin, and a cpl prospects. I was considering making it yamamoto but decided that might be too much. Benson has potential and so does Caleb jones, plus the connection with big brother Seth there.

Maybe a condition on him signing in Edmonton, which he might be more willing to do to play with Mcdavid?

Unbiased Jim

1.) 19 Jun 2018 21:06:28
Paniran is definitely worth more he makes the Blue Jackets he’s easily there most valuable player. Doubt they move him but if they do he could get a huge hall I’d value him in the Jamie Benn/ Brad Marchand tier.


2.) 19 Jun 2018 21:32:08
Yeah, vbb I kinda thought that too, but to be fair he was just traded for Saad (still a good player too) and a back up goalie. He had a great year, but he would only be 1 year at this price as I indicated. And Benn and Marchand both have long term deals if you were to trade for them, I would expect a steeper price.


3.) 19 Jun 2018 21:56:23
I would don't at deal.
But some money might be needing to go the other way.
But Nuge - McDavid - Panarin would be unreal. Panarin is a perfect left handed shot for McDavid.


4.) 19 Jun 2018 22:21:21
Panarin ain't resigning with cbj, legit trade.


5.) 19 Jun 2018 22:28:35
Saad was traded at Maximus value, he just completed 2 full seasons at getting 50+ points including a 31 goal seasons and almost a 25 goal season, last year his value wasn’t pretty high and he was coming “home” so that increase his value aswell, today he may be worth a 1/ 3 if panarin but on the right team he can still be effective, but if panarin was to be traded he should fetch more than what Boston gave for rick nashb.


6.) 19 Jun 2018 22:48:52
Him being a pending UFA definitely decreases his value tremendously but IMO he still gets more then this.


7.) 20 Jun 2018 00:37:24
How tf can panarin get more than that hahaha as a ufa next season.


8.) 20 Jun 2018 04:13:34
You obviously underate him a lot McJesus. I don’t ses a huge gap between him in Tavares a big gap but not a huge one. Paniran value wise ( not resigned) = Nylander IMO.


9.) 20 Jun 2018 04:16:47
Also Paniran>>>>>>>>Stone And you think Ottawa decelines in my offer posted below even tho Calgary is giving much more then Edmonton

Both are UFAs Stone is Elite. Paniran is a Franchise player who almost single handedly beat the caps.


 

 

19 Jun 2018 13:13:32
Sens - boedker, B- prospect, 6th rd

Sharks - Hoffman, D+ prospect, 5th rd

So Rambo, where’s the top 10 pick and top prospect? And where’s the Sens fans saying the Drama with his fiancé doesn’t affect his value?

Hard to believe they didn’t get offered more at the deadline when they apparently kept him because offers weren’t good enough.

Unbiased Jim

1.) 19 Jun 2018 13:43:16
I tried telling them he lost all value and they didn't listen.


2.) 19 Jun 2018 13:44:29
Also yeah in sure at the deadline they had way better offers, just another terrible mistep by the Sens organization, they knew about this issue and waited for it to come out and Hoff to lose all value.


3.) 19 Jun 2018 14:35:08
There is 2 ways to look at the not enough at the trade deadline aspect IMO
1) They knew about the stuff happening behind the scene and miss managed the trade thinking it wouldn't come out to the public.
2) Didn't know about it (IDK if it's been conformed that the organization knew or not) and did the logical thing and not rush the trade on a player with term and wait for the best deal.


4.) 19 Jun 2018 14:37:30
Crazy good pick up for the Sharks. Along with Kane. And I heard they still aren't done. Good for them.
Hoffman = Boadker. Who knew! 🙈🙊.


5.) 19 Jun 2018 14:51:35
Not much of a return but problem players usually don't get much value. I will say this in Ottawa defence julius Bergman is player I really liked in his draft year. He has been inconsistent so far but he still has potential for sure. could be a decent pick up plays a solid all around game when he's on.


6.) 19 Jun 2018 14:53:00
That should close the mouth for a while. Unless, because Rambo watches the sport, this Julius Bergman prospect Ottawa got is the next Bobby Orr.


7.) 19 Jun 2018 14:57:35
Also at the deadline he may not have had much more value because if this scandal was known to be happening by Sens management I think they would have had to tell other gms about it then too. This was going on for awhile so just because most of us only found out recently it' probably was known by Sens management for close to a year now. Plus Hoffman always had issues even dating back to his junior days.


8.) 19 Jun 2018 14:57:45
C’mon habby, Rambo was supposed to say that. Boedker will probably be flipped for Draisaitl, Klefbom and a 1st so it could still work out.


9.) 19 Jun 2018 15:41:42
I suspect Rambo will be in hiding for some time after this latest blunder.

The human mind can only tolerate so much embarassment.


10.) 19 Jun 2018 15:43:28
Don't worry leafs17 I wouldn't claim he's going to turn into much but he did at least have the potential a few years ago.


11.) 19 Jun 2018 15:52:44
Sharks flipped hoffman for 3 picks, freed up a forward roster spot and $4 mill when all said and done. Precursor for a Tavares pitch?!


12.) 19 Jun 2018 19:46:15
Damn. I thought it might affect trade value a little bit. Not completely destroy it. veerrrrryyyy weak return. I don't understand why we couldn't wait for a better offer? Or even until FA when people like jvr and nash are signed and off the market. Even worse that they immediately flipped him for a better return. Ahh well guess i got to change my name now . :/.


13.) 19 Jun 2018 21:03:22
It had to affect his value a lot. You got to think that superstars are atleast consulted when trades are made. If Edmonton was in on hoffman (which they were at one point) and he’s going to be mcdavid a winger, they are asking mcdavid what he thinks. You think mcdavid wants to expose his gf and other players wives to the idiot that comes along with him? Not a chance. That’s oilers out, then same in another city and eventually the market is half the size, price is down. If it was Just her word vs Karlsson, then okay, but when all other wives (turris, Hammond etc) confirm it’s been going on for months to the point they didn’t wanna be there anymore, I’m fine believing it’s all true.


14.) 19 Jun 2018 21:06:01
Haha yeah Hoff it might be time for a name change.

But Kudos to you for coming online today. Rambo is probably in the fetal position crying under his bed, too proud to admit he was way off on valuation.

Hoffman clearly had to go. It's best that Ottawa cut ties without delay, even for a non-remarkable return.


15.) 19 Jun 2018 21:13:35
They should have got a much better return or at least have moved gaborik contract but Dorian has even less common sense than any of you on here. worst gm in sens history by a land slide. if he's not fired soon sens will be completely destroyed in 2 to 3 more seasons. he's easily the absolute worst gm in the league and I doubt many will argue that.


16.) 19 Jun 2018 22:47:37
Why is it everyone else with no common sense Rambo? It seems you were the one without a clue, even though you watch the sport.


17.) 21 Jun 2018 16:17:45
Leafs17 name 1 trade other than the 2nd brassard deal that Ottawa even got close to equal value in return since Dorian took over. the man is a cancer to the organization that needs desperately to be cut out.


 

 

04 Jun 2018 16:06:49
TB - Tyler Johnson (6yrs x 5 mill) + 2nd round pick

CAR- Justin Faulk (2yrs x 4.8mill)

Carolina gets another offensive weapon (big need) at a reasonable cap hit while trading a D (deepest position)

Tampa gets the RH puck moving D they have been looking for for a cpl years.

The cap hits are similar enough not to be a problem, Carolina obviously takes on a bigger financial commitment with 4 extra years, but Tampa will need to give Faulk a raise much sooner so again I think it kinda evens out. I had Tampa adding a pick only because RHD that can play top pair will always get a premium over a good winger/ second centre.

What do you think?

Unbiased Jim

1.) 04 Jun 2018 16:14:59
I think Carolina wants younger forward.


2.) 04 Jun 2018 16:42:57
They might, but to get a player as good as Johnson, younger and locked up, they’re adding a lot to Faulk. This is just a simple swap that makes both teams better and fits both teams needs pretty well I think.


3.) 04 Jun 2018 17:52:51
Also I meant to add in that if Tampa wants to make a move involving Tampa, it’s very time sensitive because his NTC kicks in July 1st. So that could be another reason for the pick being as high as a second, because they would need to get it done quick as where Carolina could use more of the summer to figure out their moves.


4.) 04 Jun 2018 21:11:26
If I’m carolina I’d be trying to get Point rather than Johnson but that’s just me. If either are even available (point might not be) but with that said I think Faulk could fetch that as a return.


5.) 05 Jun 2018 04:14:43
Involving Johnson**.


6.) 05 Jun 2018 08:29:12
@MJC: TB not trading Point tho. Especially not for Faulk. They (rightfully) would not include him for Erik Karlsson, so CAR shouldn't even try.


7.) 05 Jun 2018 13:00:24
Points not available. Would habe to add significantly to Faulk to think about it. He wasnt available for Karlsson. Johnson for Faulk has been in the rumour mill for years. Still makes sense its not like Johnson is old he's 28 at season start 2 years older than Faulk. i'm confident Johnson will be moved before NTC and similar to Subban I believe recieving team can then nullify the clause.


 

 

15 May 2018 19:08:19
Toronto - 25th overall, F - Jeremy Bracco,
D - Andrew Nielson

Vegas - D - Colin Miller

No surprise that the leafs are looking to upgrade the RD. Miller would fit nicely with Rielly, fits today’s NHL with his mobility, has a cannon of a shot for the PP that the leafs haven’t had since Bryan McCabe. He’s 25 years old so fits with the leafs core age group.

Also he’s from Ste St Marie and was discovered playing triple A hockey and given a chance in the OHL by Kyle Dubas who was the gm of the greyhounds atvthe time. He was then captain of dubas team there and won leadership awards. All things that Shanahan and Babcock favour. All GMs have ‘their guys’and this could be dubas’s way of putting his fingerprint on the team early.

From Vegas, they get back into the first round after trading their 1st for Tomas Tatar. They also get a small skilled forward prospect in Bracco. They have had success with marchesseault, traded for Tatar and used a 1st last year to draft nick Suzuki. So small skilled seems to be in their plans. Nielsen is a good D in the AHL and was close to the nhl this year but he siince been passed by dermott and liljegren.

Because Vegas has done so well, people forget how early in the process they are. They still need to build an alentire system and prospect pipeline. A first and 2 young players with potential helps that.

Unbiased Jim

1.) 15 May 2018 19:20:43
With Miller being a rfa the leafs could just sign him to a contract over 4,060,000. At which it'll only cost them a 1st rounder and a 3rd round pick. The leafs could still flip bracco for a 3rd and still have Neilson in the pipeline.


2.) 15 May 2018 19:46:30
Yeah but I think they want the player, don’t want to alienate a possible trade partner for the future and Vegas would easily match a multi year deal at $4 mill.


3.) 15 May 2018 20:38:59
You could probably just do a sign and trade with Vegas. 4yr @ 4m to bring in miller who I think would be a better fit with Reilly.

Costs bracco Neilson and San Jose's second and we can use our first in hopes of that all star dman we've been dying for.


4.) 15 May 2018 21:39:58
You’re not getting a 25 year old Dman who put up 41 pts and is having a breakout year/ playoff for 4 years at a great cap hit without including a 1st. I’m a leaf fan, I’d love that, but I call out people that low ball trades on here, I think it would take what I said to get him.


5.) 15 May 2018 21:44:45
A late 2nd and a B and a C prospect does not get you a 25 year old top 4 RHD. It just doesn’t.


6.) 16 May 2018 00:50:24
a late 2nd you mean a late 1st? Unbiased gim.


7.) 16 May 2018 13:11:35
No MTL4LIFE I mean a late 2nd. He just recommended swapping the first I offered for San Jose’s 2nd. I said that’s not enough.


8.) 16 May 2018 15:10:55
Miller had 1 good season. Doesn't mean hell keep it up. let's evaluate him as a decent top 4 D that could become that could become great if he continues his play. Has a lot to learn in order to be a solid top 4 D.


9.) 16 May 2018 17:54:01
I’m not saying he’s a star, give him time to prove he’s a top pair d? That’s fair. But i Don’t think he needs to prove to anyone he can play top 4 on just about any team in the league, especially on the leafs where he would be replacing Ron Hainsey. If your 4th best Dman is Colin miller, I’d say you’re doing alright. That tells me he’s a good top 4.


 

 

24 Apr 2018 14:20:08
Just thinking back to a post a cpl days ago when someone had proposed:

Draistal, Bear, 2nd

For

Pastrnak, Mcavoy

Oilers fans had said both teams say no.
Honestly speaking, would you not be batter served having pastrnak to be that legit scoring winger to play with mcdavid, RNH playing second line centre like he can and earn his $6 mill, add mcavoy to your blue line and save $2mill in the deal?! How is this a no from oilers?! There’s no age gap to speak of between Leon and pasta, both on 8 year deals, pasta at 6.6 and Leon at 8.5 and you’re getting a 20 year old RHD who can play top pair already. What am I missing?

Unbiased Jim

1.) 24 Apr 2018 16:22:49
When was this exact trade posted? Tbh Iv never seen that trade before posted on here. And with saying that, that’s a no brainer for Edmonton to take oh my god if Edmonton didn’t accept that I’d be pretty confused. But no go from Boston unless they are craving a big young talented centerman.


2.) 24 Apr 2018 17:19:40
Currently they have bergeron and Krejci. Why on earth would they trade pasta and macovoy.


3.) 24 Apr 2018 17:43:00
to redwing: neither are spring chickens and krejci is a 3rd liner at this point. not saying its its good for the bruins, but they would want a potential franchise center in return for pasta and mcavoy.

trade is aweful for b's though.


4.) 24 Apr 2018 18:07:10
Cause there in there mid 30 and they have no good center prospects and boston has a lot of talented young wingers.


5.) 24 Apr 2018 18:10:35
Its cause i posted it and people like to troll me i geuss.


6.) 24 Apr 2018 20:41:00
The trade might look a little different in a year or two if Bear progresses like he has been. But yeah easy no from Boston.


7.) 24 Apr 2018 21:19:07
Yeah I saw it, and I commented 'terrible for Boston', and got three or four dislikes and was like huh? But yeah, I stick to it, that's bad for Boston.


8.) 24 Apr 2018 21:19:37
and @MJ, it was on the Talk page, it was proposed by whadya know, Brock.


9.) 25 Apr 2018 00:13:11
It was a cpl days ago and YUP said no from oilers lol that’s why I was so confused if I was missing something or if it’s just falling in love with your own players again.


10.) 25 Apr 2018 00:22:56
And I get that Bear has been good and has potential, but he’s far from a sure thing stud, mcavoy already is. As a leaf fan, I remember hearing that we stole Jesse blacker in the second round and would be a top 4 Dman. 4 years later we had to add a 2nd and 7th to him to get Peter Holland and he has 1 nhl game played lol same story with Matt Finn. He was very early second round pick after we took Rielly and had huge potential, a few years later he was one of 5 contracts we sent to the islanders for Grabner. This Bear evaluation on this site is hard for me to grasp.


11.) 24 Apr 2018 15:05:51
Boston is giving up too much. Edmonton adds.


12.) 24 Apr 2018 21:00:34
I also added edm 2 rd pick.


13.) 25 Apr 2018 01:29:02
I said no from both Was mainly thinking because Boston doesn't need a center and need pasta and Mcavoy a lot more than a center and a guy almost ready.
Edm needs to keep Drai and go McDavid-Drai at center. If this deal was proposed I do think Edm takes it tho but I don't think Boston does.

But I think Edm should trade some other players before even taking talks on Drai. Klefbom, Nuge, 2018 1st, even Pulujarvi depending on the deal. Would take calls on all them well before Drai if I was Edm. That's also why I said both say no. Boston says no first, but Edm should look around at other options before taking calls on Drai.


14.) 25 Apr 2018 02:28:24
Okay. I’m just saying that trade was proposed and you said no from Edmonton. I was just confused how someone who is usually really on the ball on this site could think oilers say no to that. You and mcjesus are usually on the same page, almost exactly and he calls it a no brainer, as I would. Just curious.


15.) 25 Apr 2018 06:30:28
I said both say no originally. And then just explained my thought process behind that.
this trade would just never happen.


 

 

 

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12 Jun 2018 22:02:13
Well I think it’s a foregone conclusion that Karlsson is on the first plane the hell out of Ottawa.

The assistant GM was arrested for groping and showing his genitals to a 19 year old shuttle bus driver in buffalo at the draft combine. Owner Eugene Melnyk not only didn’t fire him, but actually personally defended his actions and paid for his lawyer. How can you have a GM whose job that weekend was to interview 17, 18 and 19 year old boys in hotel rooms groping young men? What parent/ agent can now be excited about there son being drafted by this guy?!

And incase that’s not enough, Erik Karlssons wife has just filed a restraining order against mike Hoffman’s fiancé after months of harassment including saying she’s glad their baby died and that mrs Karlsson should have died with him.

With an owner that allows this garbage to go on under his nose, Officially the worst organization in the NHL and maybe North American pro sports.

Unbiased Jim

1.) 13 Jun 2018 03:34:30
It's like a soap opera there man. Seems like every week there is something.


2.) 13 Jun 2018 00:50:12
If you listen hard enough, you can Rambo crying himself to sleep.


3.) 14 Jun 2018 18:13:01
James duthie was on TSN 1050 this morning and he is from Ottawa, has lots of connections still there. Said he doesn’t know what else is going on there but was told from someone with knowledge of the organization that it’s about to get worse in Ottawa in the next couple days. Said another bombshell about to drop but that’s as far as he knew. Said he doesn’t know what it is, but another really negative story is about to come to light. At some point the other owners have to stand up for their own product and force Melnyk out. I always thought that Seattle would get an expansion team to make east/ west equal at 16 teams each and then move a team like Carolina or Florida up to Quebec City to keep everything in line.

What if they moved Ottawa to Quebec City instead? The owners a joke, they’re trying to get a new downtown arena anyway, and couldn’t sell out for game 6 of the east final vs Crosby and the penguins a year ago (if that’s not an easy sell in a real hockey market, nothing is) . Quebec City has a new state of the art building and an ownership group that is eager to get a team. It can’t be worse than what they have now. I’d be all for it.


4.) 14 Jun 2018 18:37:29
I see what your saying Jim, about relocation. I don't want to see that however, but would live to see Quebec get a team. my biggest concern is they would move to an American market.
I am concerned with what is going on there, I think the fans of Ottawa should be as well, its a small market, and with the Shenanigans going on latley, it makes it very difficult to lure free agents, keep players ect. The fan base is already dwindling, and the worse the team gets, the more liklihood the Sens could be a relocation team. man. I hope not
Once Melnyk was a Savior, now he's jus plain crazy. time to go Melnyk. let someone else fix and save the Sens.


5.) 14 Jun 2018 19:16:52
Yeah. A good friend of mines cousin worked for the Sens in promotions and ticket sales a few years back (probably 2011-15 I’d guess) and I talked to him for a long time about it at a wedding once. He said trying to sell tickets there is a disaster. He’s been a salesman, and a good one, for a number of companies and was so excited to work there and thought it would be a dream job. Be a salesman like he was born to be and work for an NHL team. Thought it would be easy to convince people to buy seasons tickets and flex packs and group seats because it’s a Canadian City with pro hockey. But he Said it was hell. People that said they were fans wouldn’t spend a dime to come see the team (which is the only thing I ever agreed with Melnyk with) . It’s great to say you’re a fan, but when an owner is losing money and ‘fans’ won’t step up and pay a fair price to see the product, he’s got a right to change things. He’s just gone too far nuts tho.


6.) 14 Jun 2018 21:13:48
2 options IMO relocate. Or bring in a completely new front office and owner and rebuild from sctratch.


7.) 15 Jun 2018 04:07:50
I say clear out everyone in the front office and trade both Hoffman and Karlsson. They can get a crap load of assets to start fresh.


8.) 15 Jun 2018 05:49:53
Also trade duchene before he’s a free agent in the summer of 2019 cause they gave up a lot of assets for him so might aswell try to get some back.


 

 

05 Apr 2018 01:43:43
Since the midway point of the season, I have been of the opinion that if Colorado’s made the playoffs, Mackinnon would be my choice for the Hart.
Lots of people have made good cases for about 5-7 players that are deserving. But last night I saw that Taylor Hall had 93 pts including 39 goals. He has 42 points more than next closest on his team (Hieschier 51pts) while playing 5 less games. If you took his 39 goals off his stat line, he would still lead his team in scoring with a 3 pt cushion lol if that's not “most valuable to his own team” as the Hart is defined, I’ve never seen it.

Unbiased Jim

1.) 05 Apr 2018 05:54:03
Really hope he wins it, he’s going to be top 3 for sure! Never thought I’d be rooting for New Jersey in the playoffs but thanks to Hall I am. Lol.


2.) 05 Apr 2018 13:05:07
I hate the a player is a Hart winner if he makes the playoffs by a point not considered if they miss by a point stuff. Playoffs or not MacKinnon Hall and McDavid are the top 3 choices. Your team doesn't have to make the playoffs for you to provide value and a 2 point in standings difference shouldn't hold that much weight in the voting.


3.) 05 Apr 2018 14:16:58
I agree there’s situations where it wouldn’t matter if a team didn’t make the playoffs, I’ve never seen a situation, maybe there has been, where a player has been so much better than every other player on his team.
With the mcdavid one, I have no problem with him being in the conversation, but when a team is going to miss the playoffs by 20+ pts, he can’t be the Hart trophy winner in my eyes. He could win the TedLindasay as most outstanding.
Also for a Hart argument, mcdavid is repeating (slightly better) than last season, Draisaitl is slightly behind pace of last season, Talbot is the massive variable. The difference in the oilers making the playoffs last year, and missing by 20 points this year is talbot, not mcdavid. If they got subpar goaltending all year and mcdavid blew his numbers from last year out of the water and dragged the team to within inches of playoffs, I’d give it to him.


4.) 06 Apr 2018 21:22:47
Honestly, as good as mcdavid is he shouldn’t even make too 5 for hart. The hart is “most valuable to his team” and take Mcdavid out of Edmonton and they would be still around the same position. I think the 3 finalist should be Hall, Mackinnon and Kopitar. All of them have dragged their team all year and are all going to the playoffs unless Colorado falls out.


5.) 07 Apr 2018 00:22:11
I know he has no chance at winning but staal for Minnesota has done the same! And no Mcdavid had a great year but should not be in the top 3 I personally think hall should win without question.


6.) 07 Apr 2018 08:32:17
Edmonton without McDavid is extremely worse off than Edmonton with McDavid. The fact that the rest of his team is awful shouldn't detract from what he's accomplished in spite of them. Why award mediocrity by just picking the best player on a team that squeaks into the playoffs because if they didn't make it they don't deserve it and if they did handily they have too much support? Also i saw some analysis in the past 50 years its been mainly to playoff teams but before that it was roughly 50/ 50 and the change happened had more to do with dominant players on dominant teams than it did that a player had to be on a winner until that became some kind of narrative. McDavid putting up the season he did despite the roster around him should really make him a slam dunk.


7.) 07 Apr 2018 18:34:02
@jbs 50 years ago there was 12 teams, 52 years ago there was 6 teams. Playoff teams vs non playoff teams was a little different than in a 31 team league lol

And no one is saying mcdavid isn’t important to the oilers, he clearly is. And I’m not saying it absolutely has to be a playoff team. If the devils didn’t make the playoffs, but they picked first last year, were projected a bottom 5 team again and Taylor hall almost doubled the next closest scorer on his team to drag them to this point in the season and they didn’t sneak in, I’d still say he was more valuable to his team than any other single player was to theirs.

But mcdavid didn’t go so far beyond what was expected of him this year, the bar is set so high for him as it is. But in my opinion, I don’t wanna see the mvp going to guys that miss the playoffs by 20 points. That’s just not in the spirit of things. Todd mcclellan saying “imagine where we would be without Connor? ”, well imagine where the sabres would be without Eichel? does that mean that a 31st place team can have the Hart trophy winner? I sure hope not.


8.) 08 Apr 2018 09:50:40
Mcdavid ppg is really not much different then a few other guys in the top 10 in scoring plus he plays about 2 mins more a game then most of them. i'd be interested to see how he compares in the points per 60 mins category. I'm guessing he probably isn't tops in the league. his team dídnt make the playoffs or even come close so for me to consider him a hart trophy nominee he would have to be so much more effective and dominant then the other guys like hall mackinnon or even malkin and he has not been. Maybe if he had 130 points then he might be in the conversation.


9.) 09 Apr 2018 03:10:46
Yeah, if you’re missing the playoffs by that much, you better be blowing away everyone in every individual category, and I just don’t see it either.


 

 

29 Mar 2018 13:34:56
Laine is clearly in the mold of ovechkin and poised to be the leagues next great goal scorer with that crazy release on the rush and his office on the left circle on the PP.

However last night I saw a stat that I found impressive. Since the day laine and Matthews came in to the NHL, Matthews and mcdavid are tied for the most even strength goals in the league at 60. Mcdavid has done it in 157 games and Matthews in 137. Mcdavid clearly has far far more assists to go along with them.

How do you guys view a players ability to score 5-on-5? I see nothing wrong with guys getting their points on the PP, because all season long it’s a special teams game, but when playoffs get tighter and penalties aren’t called as often, I think that ability to score at even strength is a huge bonus.

Unbiased Jim

1.) 29 Mar 2018 16:29:51
So laine has 51 ev goals so it's not like he can't score 5 on 5. I'd rather have the guy that can score in all situations. When you have a weapon like laine on the power play it affects the way opposing teams play you defensively ( less aggressive) especially In tight games.


2.) 29 Mar 2018 17:44:31
I agree. This wasn’t a shot at Laine lol but should have assumed it opens up the door for you to make me look like I’m picking on him. Laine is .53 goals per game, Matthews is .50 goals per game for their career. Matthews is on the second PP unit because marner and JVR are the top one. It’s not saying Matthews can’t score on the PP or that laine can only score on the PP but I don’t think it’s a secret that even strength goals are harder to come by generally speaking than PP goals. It’s called a man ADVANTAGE for a reason, right? It was brought up to show that some guys that aren’t looked at as pure goal scorers are putting up numbers in that category with the best of them. Not to put down other players or have you start a stupid fight. Concede.


3.) 29 Mar 2018 19:50:11
Lainey had trouble adjusting to his extra weight and little was not clicking with him and ehlers. Which is why his 5on5 is lower.


4.) 29 Mar 2018 20:56:01
Well it’s over 2 years, but I get that it’s not the end all stat. Laine is 28g/ 82 games at even strength and Matthews is 34/ 82. I just thought it was an impressive stat. Anyone that can score like that 5v5 should be able to do equal damage when given PP time, and not necessarily the other way around. Again, not a shot at Laine. I think he’s an unbelievable talent and would love him on my team. I’d cheer for jets in the west for sure this year.


5.) 29 Mar 2018 21:54:42
I may be biased, but I think that the 5v5 goal stat does matter. To score at 5v5 is harder to do than on PP tbh, should go without saying, and its also easier to become a better player on the PP than a better player at even strength.

Both Laine and Matthews are really good tho. Just in case anyone thinks I'm hating on Laine, i'm not.


6.) 30 Mar 2018 00:39:25
McDavid has the most even strength points in a season since one of the Sedins in 2009/ 2010. Pretty cool.
And look at his power play points. He has 18. While the other five guys behind him have 30-38 or so. Imagine he had a other 10 power play points.


7.) 30 Mar 2018 01:20:48
@Yup, yeah mcdavids numbers are insane. And I said Matthews and Mcdavid are tied in even strength goals and yet the response I get is, ’I’d take laine because he scores in all situations’ lol like he’s honestly trying to say he would take laine over mcdavid too? I get that a guy like laine scares teams into not taking penalties, but you know what’s scarier? A guy that can score 85 of his 105 pts when you don’t even take any penalties against them! Lol.


8.) 30 Mar 2018 05:26:27
Hahaha. Ya. Well McDavid is above all, that's a fact.
And in my opinion, Liane and Mathews are tied, and it's personal biased and team needs. Winnipeg has centers so liane fits perfectly. Toronto needs a top center so Mathews fits. i tbink they are so close. And I just personally really really like Liane so I would choose him
Imagine him with McDavid. Lol.


9.) 30 Mar 2018 05:39:00
matthews has averaged almost 2 mins more per game this year and is almost a year older. All of this is still in Laine's favour too.


10.) 30 Mar 2018 05:41:47
I didn't say I'd rather laine over mcdavid but I will go on record as saying I would take him over matthews.


11.) 30 Mar 2018 14:10:58
Taking Laine over Mathews is like taking Ovie over a Non injury prone Malkin. On a champion ship team a Center is more important. IMO I feel like it’d be much easier to contain Laine then Mathews in the playoffs due to his lack of elite creativity and hockey IQ. I’ll take Malkin over Ovie and Mathews over Laine.


12.) 30 Mar 2018 14:52:00
Laine was the best player out of the 2016 nhl draft. Leaf probably still pick Matthews because of center need but Laine is just on another level imo. Matthews seems like he thinks he's better then everyone and I've never seen an "Elite player" cherry pick so much. i'd bench him if he was on my team.


13.) 30 Mar 2018 15:10:18
Vbbbvvbb, it's not really like that because neither Laine or Matthews are as good as Ovechkin Or Malkin. At least not yet. i like Laine because he's playing better at 19 then Matthews is at 20. Plus I wouldn't exactly call Matthews non injury prone.


14.) 30 Mar 2018 15:40:08
@habby

Then what would you call Laine, who got injured a lot last season?

Both players have had one 40 goal season and one 30 goal season. Both players are remarkable talents.


15.) 30 Mar 2018 16:29:34
Bringing McDavid into this conversation with Laine and Mathews is not needed. he's clearly the best offensive player the game has seen since the Gretzky/ Lemuiex days. sorry Sid
As for Laine/ Matthews. uggh. it pains me to say, cause I like Laine better. but, Mathews will be the better player. 200 foot game. as for goal scorer. it will be Laine., but Mathews won't be far behind. give he points edge to Mathews.


16.) 30 Mar 2018 16:55:22
“Matthews seems like he thinks he’s better then everyone? ” Where does that even come from? Everyone talks about Matthews 200 foot game so I really don’t think he cherry picks either. Colt you are clueless and just look to stir people up in here. I haven’t seen many Jets games, just a lot of Laine highlights. He is definitely the next Ovechkin. Looking forward to seeing both Matthews and Laine leading the only Canadian teams into the playoffs.


17.) 31 Mar 2018 13:53:39
Centres over wingers. Centre is the premier position in hockey. That's why I would always take a centre. Crosby over Ovie. Matthews over Laine. Remember we are talking about elite players here. They will all be in the HOF.


 

 

21 Mar 2018 15:37:17
Kinda for leaf fans, but anyone else is obviously welcome to throw their thoughts in. Big topic on all the sports radio and TV the last week or so is if you had your pick, would you rather leafs play Boston or Tampa in the first round.

I can make and have heard good arguements for each. Just wondering what others thought is Best for our chances of moving on.

Unbiased Jim

1.) 21 Mar 2018 17:10:35
I would like Boston tbh. they'll be a tough team, probably more physically imposing than Tampa, but i have reasons:

- Tampa is considered by far to be the Stanley Cup favorite: don't wanna really play them.

- Tampa plays Torontos run and gun style: problem is, i'd argue their offence can trump ours on many nights. And their defencive gameplan is better than ours for sure, as evidenced w their 'never say die' attitude last night.


2.) 21 Mar 2018 17:30:34
On paper I think tampa has the better team but I also think rask is the better option in goal mainly because of his playoff experience. its a tough call I don't think the leafs stack up well against either team but anything can happen I guess.


3.) 21 Mar 2018 18:08:24
Isn't Boston still dealing with a lot of injuries?
If looking to advance to the next round, play Boston.
If you think the cup is possible - play Tampa. If you take them out, it would be a huge confidence boost. If you loose, you lost to the best in this conference and possibly cup champs and didn't get knocked out by a heavy division rival.


4.) 21 Mar 2018 18:15:43
And I meant to say that this assuming the teams are healthy. Andersen is back now and Matthews, zaitsev and komarov are expected back very soon. So assume Bergeron amd chars and backers etc play as well.


5.) 21 Mar 2018 19:40:28
Bruins best players being great at both ends of the ice worried me before, and their size and physicality worried me more than Tampa’s skill that I think the leafs can compete with. But then someone made a great point on tSN radio this morning that a year ago, the senators didn’t just get past the bruins, but actually dominated them a lot of that series with their speed advantage and sens are not as fast and mobile as the leafs are. So that got me thinking the other way lol

Both are great teams, so there’s no easy choice but at the same time I don’t feel overly intimidated by either. I think leafs stand a good shot against either. They have played great and dominated at times this season against both teams and have looked outmatched at times too.


6.) 21 Mar 2018 20:16:02
Montreal beat the bruins a couple years ago with pacioretty as there best player.


7.) 21 Mar 2018 20:30:32
Concede.


8.) 21 Mar 2018 20:48:46
But he was tied for 3rd in points on the team behind subban and Eller, tied with Rene Bourque and Gallagher, and one point up on markov and Vanek. 3 goals behind bourque. Sounds like pretty average company to me haha.


9.) 21 Mar 2018 21:01:38
I’d rather the leafs play Tampa. I think they match up better against teams that play the run and gun style. Both teams have better defense than Toronto but the goaltending is close and Toronto can bring the offence just as good as anyone in the league.


10.) 21 Mar 2018 23:14:47
As a neutral fan, I’d rather see leafs vs Bruins because we’ll all know leafs have unfinished business (2013 game 7 collapse) and it seems they have somewhat of a rivalry. Tampa and leafs as far as it seems they don’t have a rivalry so leafs bruins would be more fun to watch.


11.) 22 Mar 2018 02:11:11
Yeah, for nestalgia reasons I’d say bruins for sure, just an easier series to sell storylines on. But like I said, I got back and forth on who.


 

 

25 Feb 2018 14:43:02
Official Trade

Boston- Rick Nash 50% retained

NYR - 1st round pick
F Ryan Spooner
D Ryan Lindgren
F Matt Belesky
7th Round Pick.

Unbiased Jim

1.) 25 Feb 2018 18:36:18
Boston got fleeced.


2.) 26 Feb 2018 13:36:56
Not really they know what they did. They wanted a Nash as Nash who was one of the best w/ o gets in the league. They see him that way and they paid the price. I'm sure another team would of done so too. They won and lost at the same time.


 

 

 

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3 disagrees for mcjesus? Lol really? got to be the same person 3 times. Philly laughs that offer back in a hurry.

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21 Jun 2018 15:59:09
Yeah, as bad as the lucic contract is, he can still contribute physically and bring an element of intimidation and protection for his team if not offense. If loui Erikson isn’t scoring 25 goals, he could never come close to earning that contract.

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21 Jun 2018 15:43:27
1) canes don’t need Defense
2) that’s way too much for 1 year of Karlsson
3) Sens aren’t in a position of power when it comes to negotiating a trade because Karlsson has made it clear he’s leaving now or in a year.
4) Carolina probably wouldn’t feel they have a great chance of keeping Karlsson beyond this year
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20 Jun 2018 19:31:00
Don’t see why blues do it unless they’re certain they need the little extra cap savings in a tavares deal or something. Kyrou would have more value than benson at this point, and parayko is a top pair RHD at 5.5 mill. Only 1.5 mill cap and No age gap between him and klefbom. Don’t see the point unless it’s got other implications in another move.

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20 Jun 2018 15:57:04
@franchisebilly, yeah, I’m telling you leafs wouldn’t take that for nylander. But the trade also has hyman going. Hyman is a better player than Bennet currently, still young and signed cheap. Bennett has a higher ceiling if he ever reaches it, I’m not denying that. But today, you’re a better team with hyman on the ice than Bennett. Call them even for simplification. That leaves Brodie and fox for nylander?! No thanks. Willy goes for a big upgrade on D, which Brodie just isn’t. He’s a good Dman. We have 3 good Dmen (Gardiner, Rielly, zaitsev) and a young guy who might be really good in Dermott.

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