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14 Sep 2017 11:02:13
Calgary Pittsburgh
Stajan (20% Retained) for 3rd 2018 + Bjorkqvist

Calgary NYR
B. Kulak + M. Klimchuk + 4th 2018 for R. Nash

1.) 14 Sep 2017 16:38:41
Too much cap going to Calgary and Pittsburgh is good up the middle

2.) 14 Sep 2017 17:53:16
No Pittsburgh isn't good up the middle (bottom six) . Crosby, Malkin, Rowney, McKegg is their current depth chart. They should definetly make a move before the season starts to get a 3C.

3.) 14 Sep 2017 18:45:18
I just read that Holland and Rutherford have spoken this week and that Pens are intersted in Wings Sheahan. Pouliot back to the wings is talked about. Maybe some pieces added to either side. But the Wings are $3M over the cap and need to shed still.

4.) 15 Sep 2017 18:10:06
Pittsburgh is great top 2 centres and near the bottom of the league bottom 6. Which is why they say it's a priority to get a 3rd center. Have to see how cap would work but I still feel there's a fit there for Tyler bozak. 1 year left at 4.2 mill, great on the draw, decent offence, can play a checking role and penalty kill too, and has a history of playing well with kessel if they wanted to keep the big three on 3 different lines again for added scoring depth.



10 Sep 2017 23:45:31
C. Giroux + Conditional 2nd 2019 for S. Bennett + T. Brouwer + 1st 2019 + M. Klimchuk
Condition: 2nd is transferred if Bennett gets more than 45 points in the 2018-19 season, otherwise a 3rd is transferred

1.) 11 Sep 2017 00:45:56
Wow I am disappointed.

2.) 11 Sep 2017 05:41:12
You undervalued Giroux by a lot I know he's old but he's valued more than that from philly. i'd rather get Simmonds. Younger and he's a big RW which is a big need for Calgary. Imagine Gaudreau Monahan and Simmonds

3.) 11 Sep 2017 08:51:59
This might be a bit of a low ball from Calgary but if Giroux doesn't bounce back then his 8.5 mil cap hit is a major liability. It's not like they're getting terrible quality either, Bennett still has decent value, the first is nice, Brouwer is still a decent 3rd line player and Klimchuk might be able to crack the roster this year. If Bennett is able to find his groove then this is a really good deal for Philly.

4.) 11 Sep 2017 11:23:33
Brouwer sucks. he's not decent anymore with a 4.5 cap hit.

5.) 11 Sep 2017 17:24:50
Very easy no from Philly right now.

6.) 11 Sep 2017 23:01:52
Top shelf, I meant as a player but he's going to back to make the cap work. Philly is still gaining a decent amount of cap space.



24 May 2017 00:52:09
Kassian + Reinhart for Duchene

Duchene has struggled and Kassian could replace him. Kassian is growing and showed flashes of brilliance in the playoffs. Reinhart has also developed nicely in the minors and could be a top 4 d man in the future.

1.) 24 May 2017 01:19:50
Not to bad although I'd like to keep Kassian. He's a beast.

Not to bad.

2.) 24 May 2017 02:00:09
Is this a sad attempt at a troll post?

3.) 24 May 2017 02:13:54
Kassian can replace duchene? Lol he's fourth line material that can penalty kill and has shown he could slot in on a 3rd line if needed. Duchene is a top line talent that can play centre and wing. I'm confused. Or was this a troll job too?

4.) 24 May 2017 02:14:20
Ahah good one Xcing. That's how most Oilers fan ( Mcjesus, yup, FairTrade4all) value those and every Oil player.

5.) 24 May 2017 02:31:49
That's the easiest no from Colorado. Man.
Top 9 forward and a guy who is maybe 3rd pairing if he ends up making the NHL.

6.) 24 May 2017 03:30:12
This is the worst trade I've seen on here in a long time. Reinhart is useless. Just because Chiarelli got taken to the cleaners by Snow doesn't mean his price should be high now. Kassian is a plug that managed to find a goal or two. This is nowhere near Sakic's asking price of an established player, A prospect, and a 1st. Whether he gets that is yet to be seen but it's not far off.

Meet Oilers fans, the new Leafs fans.

7.) 24 May 2017 04:06:53
Lol wow.

8.) 24 May 2017 04:14:16
Must be sniffing the smelling salts.

9.) 24 May 2017 04:20:06
Lol. I've never actually valued Kassian on this site.
dont ever speak on my behalf again GoldenShowers. Thanks. No one likes you.

10.) 24 May 2017 07:30:33
This isn't an Oil fan! Probably a troll.

11.) 24 May 2017 07:37:46
K99/ Fair Trade4all thinks it's not bad. That's funnier than the original post.

12.) 24 May 2017 15:16:36
I'd say yes on Edmonton's part, but the Salary cap probably won't let that happen.

13.) 24 May 2017 15:28:37
Ft4a. If Sakic is willing to take a bottom six penalty killer and a AHL D who may be a bottom pair in the next couple years for a top line player, you just make the cap work lol or make the trade, play duchene with mcdavid this year and trade him next off season before mcdavid and draisatls new deals kick in. You're insane to consider 2 years down the road when this is the offer.

14.) 24 May 2017 17:08:00
Shouldn't waste time on Unrealistic trades from both ends. Colorado can get a lot more for Duchy than this, and Edm can't afford him. So why analyze what's never going to happen?

15.) 25 May 2017 12:39:12
FT4A, what you said here to Unbiased has got to be literally the only thing you've ever said on here that wasn't laughable. Kudos.



23 May 2017 20:00:47
T. Brodie + B. Kulak for S. Reinhart + 2nd 2017

S. Bennett for S. Theodore + 2nd 2017

1.) 23 May 2017 21:39:30

2.) 23 May 2017 21:48:33
I like how Bennet plays. But You're not getting a young D like Theodore + for him.

3.) 23 May 2017 22:44:58
I'd just like to point out Theodore has yet to play a full season and he was drafted a year before Bennett not to mention Bennett has more potential.

4.) 23 May 2017 23:00:45
Being a D and playing behind Fowler, Manson, Lindholm, Vatanen and couple more vets might have something to do with that.

5.) 23 May 2017 23:02:16
Wow. And you make fun of some Oilers fans here for their evaluations of Oilers players and then you post these way off proposals. Easy no from Buffalo and Anaheim. Add more from Calgary for those two.

6.) 23 May 2017 23:34:21
Having more potential is pretty subjective. But a d with really good mobility and has had very favourable reviews from a lot of smart hockey people as well for a guy with upside but probably tops out as a #2 centre isn't the best plan for long term success. Ducks have their top 2 centres locked up long term. Until the ducks/ preds get to the 11th hour of needing to move a D, don't expect any bargains. And even when it reaches that 11th hour, just before the expansion draft, upwards of 10 teams will be on the phone to take 1 D from eitther of those teams, so i still don't see the price dropping to 'bargain' territory.

7.) 23 May 2017 23:38:19
@Unbiased Jim

Oh yeah, Bennett plays like a real super-star out there.

81GP 26P.
Your 4th overall pick is not even getting 30 points in basically a full season.

Yeah, plays great. Maroon had more goals than Bennett had points.

8.) 23 May 2017 23:44:10
Defensemen take longer to develop than forwards.

9.) 24 May 2017 00:47:41
Van city, except Reinhart because he's clearly a bust like everyone on this site says he is. Lol.

10.) 24 May 2017 00:59:30
Lol you must be joking. Bennett is a career 3rd liner. He could maybe get a late 2nd. Brodie is terrible defensively so no way from Buffalo.

Not Legit.

11.) 24 May 2017 02:05:11
McJesus imo if a player dosent reach there drafted potential they are busts. When he was drafted he was projected to be a top 2 dman. And it's safe to say he won't be.

12.) 24 May 2017 02:17:45
@tb3 when did I say Bennett was great? I said I like the style he plays and could top out as a #2 centre. Don't see how that's saying he's a superstar lol and he's not my 4th overall pick, I'm not a flames fan. I also said it wasn't enough to get Theodore. Learn to read before you comment. Thanks.

13.) 24 May 2017 02:21:57
K99ft4a is that you? Your the only one whoever goes off on bennett being a 3rd line center. You can change your name but you can't change your stupidity.

14.) 24 May 2017 14:11:07
Even though valuation is off, why would Calgary do this? It's a pretty lateral move. Essentially Brodie + Kulak for Theodore and Bennett for Reinhart.

Brodie is a real solid #3 dman and Kulak could be a decent #6.
Bennett could break out or he could not, it remains to be seen.

15.) 24 May 2017 17:16:55
Dear Sens101

Sorry. Don't know who K99 is, and I only have 1 account ( with someone creating a bogus account with my user name) unlike some others on here it seems.

It looks like someone else without the world painted red glasses on has evaluated Bennett's talent level realistically and assessed it similar to mine. If the truth hurts that much that you have to resort to names and personal attacks, perhaps keep those comments to yourself. the moderator could deem you've crossed the line with the personal insults and start suspending accounts.

Keep it clean and fun, as there's no need for personal attacks on here.



19 May 2017 10:26:31
S. Bennett + D. Dube for 2nd OVR (Philly)

Odds are that Hischier goes 2nd and he fits into Calgary's system more than Philly's. Philly takes a gamble with Bennett but I think Bennett will greatly benefit by playing with players like Giroux and Simmonds. Also draft picks are a gamble too so it's not like it's a complete gamble for Philly. Dube is a solid prospect that could turn into Philly's 3rd line Center and Calgary can afford to lose him because they have Jankowski and Lazar (Both bottom 6 centres). Is this enough to make Philly bite?

1.) 19 May 2017 12:09:55
Easy no for the flyers.

2.) 19 May 2017 16:05:43
Patrick/ Nico >>> Bennett. Dube (who? ) doesn't fill the difference.

3.) 20 May 2017 01:23:52
I'd love an explanation to why you think Bennet would fit with Giroux and Simmonds.

Under performer + B prospect does not = 2nd overall.

4.) 20 May 2017 17:05:27
Ok I said Bennett would benefit from playing with Giroux and Simmonds. Here's why, Bennett plays a similar game to Simmonds, high skill with a little grit. I think learning from a player like that will help Bennett learn. Giroux provides a mentor for Bennett that he never would have in Calgary. Giroux took a little while to develop into a star and could provide some insight for Bennett. Bennett would also have an opportunity to play LW on one of the Top 2 lines survival to Philly's lack of LW. Bennett never really got an extended chance to play top 2 lines in Calgary.

5.) 12 Jun 2017 11:07:01
As both a Flames and Flyers fan, it's a no gainer for both clubs. The Flyers don't need more grit on the first line. the club has interchanged Jakub Varacek and Brayden Shenn on the left with Wayne Simmonds on the right with descent results. But what that line needs is a playmaker like Jonathon Druin.

And I can't see why everyone considers Sam Bennett a bust. A lot of players have sophomore jinx seasons. And I'm kind of interested to see what a Matthew Tkachuk/ Sam Bennett/ Curtis Lazar line might accomplish.




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20 Sep 2017 18:27:21
Which group is best:
McDavid, Draisaitl, Pulijarvi, Klefbom, Nurse.

Matthews, Marner, Nylander, Reilly, Gardiner.

Laine, Scheifle, Ehlers, Morrisey, Trouba

Gaudreau, Monahan, Tkachuk, Hamilton, Brodie

1.) 20 Sep 2017 19:29:58
The group with McDavid.
But any answer wil just be biased, which is understandable when you cheer for the team.

2.) 20 Sep 2017 19:31:30
I wouldn't have Puljujarvi on that list.

For some reason I really like Lilgren more than Gardiner fr this list.

Big Buff way over Morrisey for this list.

3.) 20 Sep 2017 23:59:36
*Larsson not nurse.

4.) 21 Sep 2017 11:48:42
In order;

Toronto/ Winnipeg

I think Toronto and Winnipeg are too close to call atm.

I like Matthews over Schief, Laine over Marner, Nylander over Ehlers, Trouba over Rielly and Gardiner over Morrisey. Close tho.

5.) 22 Sep 2017 00:56:28


Laine/Matthews, Schiefele>Marner, Nylander>Ehlers, Trouba>Gardiner, Rielly>Morrissey

6.) 23 Sep 2017 12:22:26
I'll take Rielly over Trouba but I agree with the rest.



10 Sep 2017 08:22:21
Hagelin for Stajan

Depth move for both teams. Makes a lot of sense cap wise and position wise (to me atleast)

1.) 10 Sep 2017 16:20:38
But what about skill wise? That's basically the most important. They have to be at least somewhat equal in skill. And Hagelin is more valuable than stakes because he has more skill.

2.) 10 Sep 2017 23:32:27
Yup, last year they posted a very similar amount of points. Stajan carries a 3.5 mil cap hit for 1 year and Hagelin carries a 4 mil for 2 year. That cap space is super valuable to a team like Pittsburgh. Pens need another bottom 6 Center and Calgary is log jammed at Center. The skill difference isn't that big and the cap makes up for that. And like I said it works position wise.

3.) 11 Sep 2017 08:51:25
You have a point Xcing but a pick would have to be thrown to Pittsburgh as well. I didn't check but I believe Hagelin is much younger also. Like Yup said, the skill set is a little lopsided.



07 Jul 2017 14:45:13
K. Connor + Conditional 2nd 2018 for I. Samsanov + B. Orpik (1 mil retained)
Condition = If Samsanov starts 40+ games then the pick becomes a 1st 2018

Washington saves cap (very valuable for them), Samsanov has no real future with the Caps and they get a promising young player that can provide secondary scoring (helps fill the gap from players that they lost).

Winnipeg gets a very good young goalie. I know they have Conroe and Hellebuyck but neither looks to be a true starter and Samsanov can give them a starter for the future and possibly now. Winnipeg can then move one of Conroe/Hellebuyck

1.) 08 Jul 2017 15:25:31
Not really sure why Peg needs another top goalie prospect.

2.) 08 Jul 2017 19:22:03
Uhhh hell no from Jets? Comrie, Helle, Mason and some other decent goalie prospect. They do NOT need Samsonov and his few year wait.



04 Jul 2017 17:50:57
R. Andersson for K. Kapanen
Neither player will have the opportunity to get a big role with their respective organization and will have many more opportunities with the new organization. Toronto gets a RHD that can step into the lineup next year and Calgary gets a RW prospect.

C. Hagelin for M. Stajan
Hagelin is the better player but carries a bigger cap hit for longer. Stajan can help fill the hole that Bonino left and Pens save money.

Then Flames make this line:
Hagelin - Bennett - Kapanen
Bennett really shines when he has the puck. Hagelin is a playmaker and Kapenen has a great shot. It would be a fast line that can drive offence. I think that this could really help spark Bennett.

1.) 04 Jul 2017 22:36:45
Don't know to much about the prospect going to Toronto could you give an report on him? What's his potential and what's is he at worst Casinario because Kappy has the ability to step in as a good top 6 forward right now. And I really like the Haglain/ Stajan swap.

2.) 05 Jul 2017 12:42:48
Also, I like these. Pretty fair, maybe Calgary might have to add a smidge on the Toronto deal.

3.) 05 Jul 2017 17:28:18
Also I'd rather Trade Connor Brown then Kappy. Would that be acceptable?

4.) 05 Jul 2017 20:38:55
@Nylander Rasmus Andersson was drafted in the second round of 2015. He is 6'0" and right handed. He notched 22 points in 54 games with the Stockton heat in the AHL last year as a rookie. He plays a two-way game and has offensive upside. Toronto may want to keep him in the minors for one more year but that's okay because defense take longer to develop. Best case scenario top 4 d man, worst is bottom pairing. I think a swap of Kapanen and Andersson would benefit both teams and as Calgary I would be okay with adding a little like another prospect or pick.

5.) 05 Jul 2017 20:40:47
I think Flames would prefer Kapanen based on age and potential.

6.) 06 Jul 2017 12:00:02
Andersson is an offensive defenseman (stats: goo.gl/h3XdH)

who could use some conditioning, but in the end could probably be a solid power play dman and a decent number 4. And he's RH.



24 May 2017 00:46:56
S. Bennett for 3rd Round pick.

Seems pretty fair for a perennial 3rd liner

1.) 24 May 2017 02:02:53
Add Theodore and the flames may consider it.

2.) 24 May 2017 05:46:27
Add Manson, Theodore and the 2018,19,'20 first round picks.
Sam Bennett is a star in the making.

3.) 24 May 2017 20:42:39
I'd do Kadri and Gardiner for Bennet and Hamilton.

4.) 24 May 2017 22:08:48

And ill whip you with a frying pan.

Lmao, jk.




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18 Sep 2017 11:05:43
Salary Cap?



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16 Sep 2017 08:42:18
I think it's ok value for him. It's so hard to put a price on a player like him. IMO he is a top 5-10 player in the world.



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14 Sep 2017 11:04:30
Add a few small adds for a couple of the teams such as picks/ prospects and it's a good trade IMO however a trade of this calibre between 3 teams is unlikely.



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14 Sep 2017 11:01:26
Bennett has more potential than Lindholm, better for Calgary to wait one more year.



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12 Sep 2017 18:40:20
Terrible for Florida.




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