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06 Jan 2016 20:30:33
Hearing something along the lines of:

Preds:

Seth Jones
Colin Wilson

CBJ:

Ryan Johansen
Scott Hartnell

Seems like a lot from Nashville to me.

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1.) 06 Jan 2016 22:19:15
swap Jones with Ellis, and then Nashville gives up a pick as well. I don't think they're parting with Josi, Weber or Jones.


2.) 06 Jan 2016 22:39:12
I like it nash needs a #1 center they are strong on defence so seems logical.


3.) 06 Jan 2016 23:35:37
Where did you hear it from? Lol.


4.) 06 Jan 2016 23:38:12
Jones for Johanson done deal.


5.) 07 Jan 2016 03:41:00
Take out the other two and Johansen for Jones should be a done deal.


 

 

24 Feb 2015 13:10:22
What would it take for the bolts to pry James Wisnewski out of Columbus? He's signed for 2 seasons after this one and seems like more the type of player Stevie Y would go for. Reports are Columbus is shopping him ahead of the deadline. Would a deal centered around Connolly and a first work? Add pieces a bit but those as the main ones. Maybe Connolly Sustr 1st 2015 3rd 2016?

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1.) I see so far it's pretty split. Will someone tell me either why it's unbelievable or give me an idea of what it would take?


2.) 24 Feb 2015 18:33:12
Well sorry Jared, I almost always agree with you, but I really think you'd screw our own team with that.
1. Wisniewski is more of an offensive minded, puck-moving defenseman, not really what we need IMO. I think we need a physical stay at home guy.
2. I think that's a vast overpayment, tbh. Connolly, Sustr, 1st and 3rd? Wow!


3.) I just don't see Sustr/Connolly having opportunity to have a large impact on the team and I'm likely oversold on Wisnewski. But the way the power play has been and the need for a right handed d I think he fits. May be giving up to much.


4.) 25 Feb 2015 11:59:41
PP definitely needs work.
And well, even if they don't have the best opportunities here in Tampa (yet), no need to sell them below value IMO.


 

 

 

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11 Dec 2018 12:30:06
I think Stamkos saw Rambos post about having to trade Sergy for Dzingel to get him going (even though he had 26 points in 30 games) . 7 points (5 goals) in 2 games since that post.

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1.) 11 Dec 2018 13:47:07
I’ve heard he scours this site lol.


 

 

08 Dec 2018 13:47:13
Just to clarify a Habby post, Tampa has never banned opposing fans from wearing gear in the stadium. There is a premium section which is like 5% of the stadium where it’s banned. They aren’t the first or only team to do it, I believe Pens even did it last year, but Tampa was the only one that the media has made a big deal about probably because of how often they play original 6 teams in the playoffs. It’s actually not that uncommon in the NHL to have a small section like that.

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1.) 08 Dec 2018 16:50:17
Yeah, it’s in 2 luxury seat areas. Right by the glass so that probably helps the image on tv too. Friend of mine was in Colorado on business a week or so ago and went to an Avs game. They have the same ‘Lexus Lounge’ as in Tampa and same rules applied. He said access to the suite was like $300, all food and drink included before, during and for an hour after the game but no opposing jerseys allowed. I’ve sat in the ‘Ford FanDeck’ in Toronto a few times and no opposing jerseys or gear allowed in their either, and those aren’t luxury seats by any means, just so much of the ACC, or scoriabank arena now is corporatebthat it’s an area for the true fan to enjoy.


2.) 08 Dec 2018 21:03:44
Yeah ok believe that if you want. What about the fact they also restricted ticket sales to only those with a florida address? Sort of backfired against the habs though when they realized how many hab fans actually live in florida lol. You are right they are not the only ones who have done something similar to this but they are in that group of teams that sometimes have just as many opposing team fans at their games as their own fans. Which is what we were talking about in the first place.


3.) 08 Dec 2018 21:36:23
Yeah. Lots of teams do the local ticket sales only. Nashville even did that for the playoffs vs Chicago.


4.) 09 Dec 2018 00:16:49
Ya Habby, Tampa hasn’t done anything that other teams haven’t, just stop trying to make it like they are doing outrageous stuff unheard of things, nothing they do is uncommon outside the original 6. Tampa doesn’t have nearly as many problems with opposing fans as you seem to think, they obviously have some it’s the nature of being a winter travel destination and having snowbirds.

I don’t really blame people for making back their season ticket costs selling 5 games a year to Hab and leaf fans, and they’re just at the point where the first generation of people who grew up cheering for the team are buying tickets and raising families. The number of jersey switchers is decreasing which to me is the big thing.


5.) 09 Dec 2018 00:17:46
Yes jim, that's another place that shouldn't have a team. Give them 3 or 4 straight years of sucking and and see what happens. tampas avg attendance went down close to 5000 a game a few years back when they had 2 bad years in a row. I bet they weren't selling tickets to just locals then. Non local fans kept them going in those years.


6.) 09 Dec 2018 01:43:01
It's more then just original 6 teams that don't have to do this jbs. It's only those teams with a fragile fan base that have to do things like this.


7.) 09 Dec 2018 08:15:17
Habby what you're saying is beyond ridiculous.
You are aware that we currently are at ~165 sellout in a row? And don't tell that's because of opposing teams fans, because that certainly wouldn't help fill the arena when we're playing the Islanders, Coyotes, Sharks or whatever else's teams fans certainly don't come to TB for a game.
We've build a big fan base during the last decade and while - thanks to the superb roster management by Yzerman - it's unlikely that we'll suck any time soon, I am willing to take any bet that our avg attendance wouldn't drop by 5000 or anything close to that again.

And as jbs said, the jersey policies we have during the playoffs is something most teams do.

Still thinking that hockey doesn't belong in TB (or in the South) in general just proves that you're an out-dated fan. Have fun watching the Habs battle some other Original 6 team like the Wings or Rangers for 26th place in the standings while discussing players +/ - stats and complaining how 'soft' hockey has gotten. This is 100% you lol.


8.) 09 Dec 2018 14:30:23
And before any other tampa fan gets their panties in a knot over this the post was not created to put down what tampa is doing it was to express wAys that buffalo could control the amount of sabre fans in attendence that's all, no big deal no need to get so defensive over something that there is nothing wrong with or that a lot of other teams does. is it?


9.) 09 Dec 2018 14:44:59
Ok triplets first off tampa has built a decent fan base and I would keep the team there. Florida on the other hand I would move as I don't think florida/ tampa has a big enough fan base to support two teams. That being said If you don't think your fan base is at least slightly fragile your kidding yourself. Of course your filling the stadium now with a 1st place team but I'll check back after a few down years and show you the stats again. Again Tampa in general has still been ok with regards to attendence and deserve to keep the team so you don't have to accuse me of being against teams from down south. but yes hockey is too soft for my liking and eventhough +_ doesn't tell us everything about a player it's still a useful stat sometimes.


10.) 09 Dec 2018 14:52:17
Habby I’ve literally pointed out teams like Nashville and Pitt do it, Jim said Toronto has the same jersey rules. Preds did the ticket restriction in the regular season. And fans of North teams getting tickets by having a Florida shipping address isn’t some gotcha moment, you really think teams in Florida are unaware of snowbirds? The hockey doesn’t belong in the south is an old, overused rhetoric by people who have never experienced or care to learn about the teams that are successful.

Since ESPN started tracking capacity in 05-06 Tampa has been outside top of 10 in attendance % 4 times, all at the beginning of that period. The attendance increase has more to do with the owner than winning as they have had 3 top 10 picks in that time. They also include standing room only in their capacity so unlike Chicago and Montreal they can’t go over 100%. Just because a team isn’t in a place as cold as yours is doesn’t mean they’re struggling, and just because they are in a place that’s cold doesn’t mean they are successful, but being in.


11.) 10 Dec 2018 00:44:14
Florida panthers ain't struggling? i'm not sure what your getting at but I think any fool could see they are. the difference with the leafs doing something similar is they choose to do it they don't have to cause there season ticket holders don't want to be sat by opposing team fans. but your right tampa probably doesn't have to do it now but a few years ago they did. And the 2 seasons I was talking about they were for sure outside the top 10 in attendence.


12.) 10 Dec 2018 18:42:56
It's amazing how jbs is arguing with nothing but facts and the truth, yet gets dislikes while Habby is arguing with what he "feels" is the case etc. and gets all them likes lol. Hockey has ways to go in getting more open-minded - in almost every facet of the game.


13.) 10 Dec 2018 20:46:34
Both of us are using facts for the most part. Hockey is doing pretty we'll I would say I'd like more fighting though.


 

 

17 Aug 2018 16:07:47
Panarin might walk at the end of the year. But Columbus is in win now mode, it doesn't make sense to trade him for futures and he's the type of player theyd need back. Its better to have him play out the season and walk, or move him at the deadline if the season tanks, than to trade him now for depth players and picks. Its like Toronto with JVR last year and Tampa in Stamkos UFA year, you're essentially renting him from yourself at the cost of whatever you'd get for him and right now that's the right move. Its not like Tavares, Iles weren't winning anything last year.

jbs32

1.) 17 Aug 2018 17:19:35
I agree 100% with this.


2.) 17 Aug 2018 17:20:47
Good point, well worded.


 

 

06 Aug 2018 16:02:02
I think it was VD that posted that Marner is better at 21 than Kuch was so I just want to clarify. In his age 21 season Kuch had 29 goals and 65 points. That was his fist full season and its 7 more goals and 3 less points than Marner last year with solid D. So Marner can definitely be on track to develop into Kucherov type in points but he wasnt run away better at the same age.

jbs32

1.) 06 Aug 2018 17:21:13
Ohh yes obviously if Marner developed into as good as Kucherov thated be great it’s obviously possible he’s better and it’s possible that he gets in a car accident and never plays again anything can happen but if he got to that level it wouldn’t surprise me. He always reminded me of Kane.


2.) 06 Aug 2018 17:39:33
Kuch also played 1.30 per game less that year.


3.) 06 Aug 2018 17:43:36
And also had a huge playoff for tampa that year.


4.) 06 Aug 2018 19:54:42
Marner was the best player for the leafs in the playoffs.


5.) 06 Aug 2018 19:57:40
Marner has 9 pts in 7 games for the leafs thins past playoffs and Bruce Cassidy said he was the hardest player to coach against. Just because leafs didn’t advance as a whole, I wouldn’t say marners playoff wasn’t impressive too.


6.) 06 Aug 2018 20:39:48
The hardest player to coach against on the leafs. He was the only one that showed up for a lot of the series of course he was the hardest to coach against lol.


7.) 06 Aug 2018 20:56:35
Holy sh*t you guys are annoying. Let it go habby. What colour is the sky.?


8.) 06 Aug 2018 21:19:14
What in this post has you upset now habby? JBS made his point, vbb’s says he hopes Marner turns into a Kucherov and Jim states the obvious that Marner had an impressive playoff. Yet you still want to bash the leafs and mock Jim. I really hope Montreal can get their sh*t together so you cheer up a little and not be so negative.


9.) 06 Aug 2018 21:46:11
Depends on if it's cloudy or not lol.


10.) 07 Aug 2018 00:44:37
You don't hope that leafs17 lol.


11.) 07 Aug 2018 22:31:29
I do hope Montreal improves. I personally like to see Canadian teams do well. I’m sorry that you have become a Tampa fan.


 

 

24 Jan 2018 18:18:10
Brayden Point replaces Victor Hedman at all star game. Odd to see a forward replace a d.

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20 Jan 2019 22:11:34
I don’t think Panarin helps you win more games than Huberdeau though. I think Huberdeau has a bigger impact on the game.

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20 Jan 2019 14:38:24
TSS you have to realize how ridiculous that sounds, Jones is considered one of the ducks top prospects, Johnsson is at most a 3rd line guy. Just because he’s in the NHL because he had 3 extra development years to get there doesn’t make him better or more valuable. We don’t live in a world where every player in the NHL is better/ more valuable than every player outside it. Having success helps Johnssons value because he wasn’t a very valuable piece before but I still don’t think he’s as valuable as a 20 year old first round pick who at this point seems to have met his expectations in development.

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20 Jan 2019 14:31:17
That’s bad for Florida. Huberdeau is solidly offensively and a great overall player. Putting up a point a game this year. He also has 4 more very reasonably priced years left while Panarin is in his last year and rumour is he wants to go to New York. Even if they resign Panarin they will be giving him a lot more money than Huberdeau and while he may be better offensively I’m not sure his overall impact on the game is the much bigger than Huberdeaus.

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17 Jan 2019 12:15:09
I’m not going to argue that adding those two players makes them significantly better, but do those 2 players add 50 points in the standings? Because that’s about how many points Colorado is on pace to finish behind Tampa right now. It’ll probably be closer to 30, but still that’s 15 wins to expect from 2 players seems a little much for me. It’s likely by the time Colorado develops into a real contender teams like Tampa will he on their downturn, they won’t instantly jump that far up even if they peak higher.

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17 Jan 2019 12:06:25
Just because Hainsey and Williams are on expiring deals doesn’t mean we can ignore them, Williams has much more value and would probably fetch a decent return himself at the deadline because of his playoff heroics.

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I don't think anyone has an issue with players like that being put on LTIR and not counting against the cap. I think most people to take exception to it believe that those contracts should not be tradable so that teams can't buy themselves out of a hole they were stupid enough to put themselves in. Kinda unfair to teams that can't afford to do it because you drove a FA out of their price range then got out of it in a way most teams couldn't. That's the only issue I see with it. Still very shocked that trade went down huge deal for Toronto

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Hasn't toronto retained the maximum number of contracts they can at one time now? For that reason I don't see Kessel or Phaneuf moving because they'd be hard enough to move without keeping salary to begin with it would be almost impossible to fit them to a team under the cap at the deadline without those teams shipping back salary and few teams have a lot of useless salary on players they don't need for their playoff run

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Hahaha 1 year going between bottom 6 and a healthy scratch due to depth and everyone is saying Drouin is a bust and should be moved for scraps. Kid will be fine. We he gets more than 15 min he's a ppg player this season.

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The core is still young enough. Maybe they deal Chara to get younger but they'd have a hard time replacing him. I feel they might just do some minor retooling and hope to stay healthy next year

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I understand. I still think the effect is a little overstated though. Some top line guys you can pass them the puck and they'll do all the work and you get an assist. Guys Connolly plays with. if he doesn't score nobody does. Also allows the d to focus on him to take it away. Not saying he some he's some all star it's just a stat I like to look at and I do believe there is value in it but you have to take out outliers and group better than just throwing everyone in there because it will be skewed. That being said once you limit it to players this season who've played 750+ min this season it's all top 4 defense and top line forwards. Rick Nash Nikita Kucherov and Tyler Johnson don't even qualify. Top 5 are Tarasenko Getzlaf Seguin Patches Crosby so I'd say while they may still be skewed a bit it's much better for comparing top line players. Kessel still comes in at 38. Again he's not a bad player but if he was the offensive elite people say he is he wouldn't be that far down playing with guys like Bozak and JVR. At the very least he would do it himself and find ways to score. I realize he is in a massive slump right now but that's another reason I don't consider him elite. Elite players don't go through these kinds of slumps they're more consistent than that

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