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06 Jan 2016 20:30:33
Hearing something along the lines of:


Seth Jones
Colin Wilson


Ryan Johansen
Scott Hartnell

Seems like a lot from Nashville to me.


1.) 06 Jan 2016 22:19:15
swap Jones with Ellis, and then Nashville gives up a pick as well. I don't think they're parting with Josi, Weber or Jones.

2.) 06 Jan 2016 22:39:12
I like it nash needs a #1 center they are strong on defence so seems logical.

3.) 06 Jan 2016 23:35:37
Where did you hear it from? Lol.

4.) 06 Jan 2016 23:38:12
Jones for Johanson done deal.

5.) 07 Jan 2016 03:41:00
Take out the other two and Johansen for Jones should be a done deal.



24 Feb 2015 13:10:22
What would it take for the bolts to pry James Wisnewski out of Columbus? He's signed for 2 seasons after this one and seems like more the type of player Stevie Y would go for. Reports are Columbus is shopping him ahead of the deadline. Would a deal centered around Connolly and a first work? Add pieces a bit but those as the main ones. Maybe Connolly Sustr 1st 2015 3rd 2016?


1.) I see so far it's pretty split. Will someone tell me either why it's unbelievable or give me an idea of what it would take?

2.) 24 Feb 2015 18:33:12
Well sorry Jared, I almost always agree with you, but I really think you'd screw our own team with that.
1. Wisniewski is more of an offensive minded, puck-moving defenseman, not really what we need IMO. I think we need a physical stay at home guy.
2. I think that's a vast overpayment, tbh. Connolly, Sustr, 1st and 3rd? Wow!

3.) I just don't see Sustr/Connolly having opportunity to have a large impact on the team and I'm likely oversold on Wisnewski. But the way the power play has been and the need for a right handed d I think he fits. May be giving up to much.

4.) 25 Feb 2015 11:59:41
PP definitely needs work.
And well, even if they don't have the best opportunities here in Tampa (yet), no need to sell them below value IMO.




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06 Aug 2018 16:02:02
I think it was VD that posted that Marner is better at 21 than Kuch was so I just want to clarify. In his age 21 season Kuch had 29 goals and 65 points. That was his fist full season and its 7 more goals and 3 less points than Marner last year with solid D. So Marner can definitely be on track to develop into Kucherov type in points but he wasnt run away better at the same age.


1.) 06 Aug 2018 17:21:13
Ohh yes obviously if Marner developed into as good as Kucherov thated be great it’s obviously possible he’s better and it’s possible that he gets in a car accident and never plays again anything can happen but if he got to that level it wouldn’t surprise me. He always reminded me of Kane.

2.) 06 Aug 2018 17:39:33
Kuch also played 1.30 per game less that year.

3.) 06 Aug 2018 17:43:36
And also had a huge playoff for tampa that year.

4.) 06 Aug 2018 19:54:42
Marner was the best player for the leafs in the playoffs.

5.) 06 Aug 2018 19:57:40
Marner has 9 pts in 7 games for the leafs thins past playoffs and Bruce Cassidy said he was the hardest player to coach against. Just because leafs didn’t advance as a whole, I wouldn’t say marners playoff wasn’t impressive too.

6.) 06 Aug 2018 20:39:48
The hardest player to coach against on the leafs. He was the only one that showed up for a lot of the series of course he was the hardest to coach against lol.

7.) 06 Aug 2018 20:56:35
Holy sh*t you guys are annoying. Let it go habby. What colour is the sky.?

8.) 06 Aug 2018 21:19:14
What in this post has you upset now habby? JBS made his point, vbb’s says he hopes Marner turns into a Kucherov and Jim states the obvious that Marner had an impressive playoff. Yet you still want to bash the leafs and mock Jim. I really hope Montreal can get their sh*t together so you cheer up a little and not be so negative.

9.) 06 Aug 2018 21:46:11
Depends on if it's cloudy or not lol.

10.) 07 Aug 2018 00:44:37
You don't hope that leafs17 lol.

11.) 07 Aug 2018 22:31:29
I do hope Montreal improves. I personally like to see Canadian teams do well. I’m sorry that you have become a Tampa fan.



24 Jan 2018 18:18:10
Brayden Point replaces Victor Hedman at all star game. Odd to see a forward replace a d.




30 Sep 2016 13:07:07
I just read that for rfa compensation AAV is calculated as total salary/ 5 years. So a 7 year 49 mill offer sheet would be 4 1st round picks. That would be inticing for teams not to match.


1.) 30 Sep 2016 15:37:10
so you're saying actual years of the contract don't matter when determining compensation and all that matters is actual money divided by 5?

So, 7 years and 49 mil would actual be 49 mil over 5 years for a charge of just under 10 mil per in terms of compensation.

That just doesn't seem to make any sense.

2.) 30 Sep 2016 19:43:44
just to add another example at the opposite end:

a team could sign a RFA for 1 year at the league max (14 mil or whatever it is) and only have to give up a 2nd round pick because 14 / 5 = 2.8 mil.

It just seems far too easy to circumvent. Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you wrote, though.

3.) 30 Sep 2016 21:11:09
Anything over 5 years is divided by 5 to get the figure for compensation. It's to limit teams giving out longer deals to lower the AAV and therefore lower the compensation. Has no effect on 1-5 year deals they are still the AAV for compensation.

4.) 01 Oct 2016 02:24:52
ah ok, that makes sense then.



04 May 2016 13:07:49
Anyone else watch the Lightning-Iles game? I think Capuano needs to grow a pair. The Boyle hit was much better/ cleaner than the Hickey hit on Drouin and watching the replay (especially in slow motion) it's obvious Hickey tried to sell it for a penalty. Fans throwing a drink on the celebratory huddle and throwing things on the ice was fairly cringe worthy as well. What's going on in the league now that fans in Philly Detroit and New York have all though that doing stuff like that is ok?


1.) 04 May 2016 19:02:33
I missed the Boyle hit, but the hit on Drouin was clean. Head contact was after the fact and resulted from Drouin leaning forward into the hit just before contact. Hickey didn't leave his feet, he even bent his knees to get low and launch Drouin. Enormous hit, but a clean one.

2.) 04 May 2016 19:17:30
I'm not trying to say it's suspension worthy or even illegal. It was just worse than the Boyle hit Iles fans are complaining about. Just glad nobody got hurt but hate it when guys embellish and fans coaches and players act outlandish like that. I hope lightning fans never throw things on the ice.

3.) 04 May 2016 23:20:52
There will always be fans that throw things on the ice or at players. I remember watching Habs and Bruins games were Lucic would have beers and garbage thrown at him in the penalty box or whenever he was ejected. I personally thought it was funny but it doesn't make it right. Basically what I'm saying is this not an easily solved problem and I agree that some fans need to control themselves.



07 Mar 2016 17:37:23
Good to see Drouin returning to Syracuse. Hopefully he gets some work in and it can help facilitate a deal for him so he can get his career back on track. Can't imagine he will be popular in that locker room though.





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09 Aug 2018 03:56:03
I overreacted so i apologize for that i just try hard to look at things from an unbiased stand point and have a ton of respect for how the Leafs have turned things around so quick. I won't argue Faulk is a better player than Gardiner because i don't think that's true, its just the other factors i stated above that i believe give him more trade value. I don't think anyone would argue slavin and pesce are top pair players and they were only +1 last year, which i feel proves my point on +/ -. Faulk isn't a great D player just likely not as abysmal as given credit.




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08 Aug 2018 00:45:53
Look Cherry, I take offense to your comment. I am not a Leaf hater, I am just looking at facts. I have stated before how I think the Leafs D is better than people give credit, and I gthink a big part of that is people discounting Gardiner. Carolina has not been a better offensive team than Toronto since Gardiner came into the league. They were above Toronto in goals scored once, and it was by 4 goals. Faulk, however, has been above Gardiner in goals and points every year until the Leafs hit it big with Mathews and Marner, two players the likes of which Faulk has never been able to play with. +/ - is a team stat, when your team can't score you will look bad. When your goalie puts up 7 straight below average save % seasons, your +/ - will look bad no matter what you do defensively. I am not saying Faulk is a great defensive player, but his minus numbers are similar to Gardiners before Mathews Marner and Freddie came along as well. I don't disagree with people saying Leafs need a more defensive minded D, but Faulk isn't some scrub who can't hold Gardiners jock strap, and saying an extra cheap season, of a more offensively talented, RHD is more valuable really is not some big crazy hot take. I look stuff up before I post comparing players, I like to speak from an informed opinion, and try to look at more than just what's on paper as well. But I do not discredit a player based on the jersey they wear.




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07 Aug 2018 13:28:29
+/ - is a terrible stat that is influenced by his teammates that have not been good since he got there and a goalie that posted below average save percentages for 7 straight seasons. In fact i believe Carolina gave up on of the fewest amounts of shots in the league but were bottom 6 in goals against.




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07 Aug 2018 13:22:56
I think that's slightly misleading. Gardiner didn't turn a corner to score a round Faulks career average in points until about 2 years ago when the leafa forward corps really took off. And his points are assost driven. Faulk on the other hand is a goal scorer who had a down year this year, which was only 6 points lower than his career norm and would have tied Gardiner career high pre Mathews and Marner. Gardiner doesn't have better career numbers, Gardiner has better numbers since he got to work with Mathews Marner Nylander and Marleau and Faulks top forward was Skinner? And no real other offensive threat to help compliment him. Gardiner likely better on D, although ill be honest i'm not sure by how much or how to quantify it reliably. Faulk has extra year of control, right handed, and probably puts up better numbers than Gardiner if playing with the same level of offensive talent around him. that's why i personally would give Faulk more value than Gardiner, not sure how much more though. Regardless Carolina will he looking for forwards in a Faulk deal.




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24 Jul 2018 18:00:39
In terms of cost/ point amongst forwards on contracts that end in UFA, standardized to 82 games, Bobby Ryan was $2500 a point more expensive than Zach Parise last year. His comparisons last year (within 5 either way) include Parise, Loui Eriksson, Corey Perry, Casey Cizikas, Jason Pomminville, Brandon Saad and. Travis Zajac! he's much more than 1 mill overpaid and has 4 years left on that deal. Zajac isn't much better but at least a year shorter and 1.5 mill less cap. 91 players over 100k/ point cheaper than Ryan.





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I don't think anyone has an issue with players like that being put on LTIR and not counting against the cap. I think most people to take exception to it believe that those contracts should not be tradable so that teams can't buy themselves out of a hole they were stupid enough to put themselves in. Kinda unfair to teams that can't afford to do it because you drove a FA out of their price range then got out of it in a way most teams couldn't. That's the only issue I see with it. Still very shocked that trade went down huge deal for Toronto




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Hasn't toronto retained the maximum number of contracts they can at one time now? For that reason I don't see Kessel or Phaneuf moving because they'd be hard enough to move without keeping salary to begin with it would be almost impossible to fit them to a team under the cap at the deadline without those teams shipping back salary and few teams have a lot of useless salary on players they don't need for their playoff run




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Hahaha 1 year going between bottom 6 and a healthy scratch due to depth and everyone is saying Drouin is a bust and should be moved for scraps. Kid will be fine. We he gets more than 15 min he's a ppg player this season.




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The core is still young enough. Maybe they deal Chara to get younger but they'd have a hard time replacing him. I feel they might just do some minor retooling and hope to stay healthy next year




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I understand. I still think the effect is a little overstated though. Some top line guys you can pass them the puck and they'll do all the work and you get an assist. Guys Connolly plays with. if he doesn't score nobody does. Also allows the d to focus on him to take it away. Not saying he some he's some all star it's just a stat I like to look at and I do believe there is value in it but you have to take out outliers and group better than just throwing everyone in there because it will be skewed. That being said once you limit it to players this season who've played 750+ min this season it's all top 4 defense and top line forwards. Rick Nash Nikita Kucherov and Tyler Johnson don't even qualify. Top 5 are Tarasenko Getzlaf Seguin Patches Crosby so I'd say while they may still be skewed a bit it's much better for comparing top line players. Kessel still comes in at 38. Again he's not a bad player but if he was the offensive elite people say he is he wouldn't be that far down playing with guys like Bozak and JVR. At the very least he would do it himself and find ways to score. I realize he is in a massive slump right now but that's another reason I don't consider him elite. Elite players don't go through these kinds of slumps they're more consistent than that