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18 Sep 2016 23:07:27
Troubled career trade

Penalty drawing machine Wideman and 2nd 2018
to Buffalo for
can't stay outta trouble Kane

Flames need 3 or 4 more top 6 forwards.
Buffalo gets rid of the Kane sideshow . puts Wideman in the pressbox for most the year until the refs can forget about his little event.

Teams exchange untradable assets ( if you call either of these an asset)

k99

1.) 18 Sep 2016 23:27:18
maybe a 3rd or 4th going from buffalo but i think sounds realistic.


2.) 18 Sep 2016 23:33:04
These troll posts aren't funny anymore.


3.) 18 Sep 2016 23:38:04
Drawing a penalty is good. And there's no proof to your theory of Wideman getting targeted by the refs and it most likely won't happen when the season starts.


4.) 18 Sep 2016 23:40:24
Did wideman bang your sister or something? Everytime someone puts him in a trade, you write 9 paragraphs about why he could never be traded and what a piece of garbage he is, and then you throw up a trade for him. I get you're an over the top oilers fan, but Jesus.


5.) 18 Sep 2016 23:45:07
I would think you'd propose a Yak for Kane deal? He fits in well with Looch and Kassian plus he may be able to get Mcdavid going.


6.) 19 Sep 2016 00:03:27
Kolt99 did you forget what you posted recently? Don't call other people trolls after what you did lol.


7.) 19 Sep 2016 02:11:32
McJesus Christ it was a joke.


8.) 19 Sep 2016 02:39:42
Idiot.


9.) 19 Sep 2016 03:40:15
Wideman assaulted an official. Very poor sportsmanship. If he's so good why is he listed in every trade? No one wants him. accept it and stop posting trades for him. Suck up the last year of his contract and part ways after the season is done.


10.) 19 Sep 2016 07:17:20
This site has become brutal.


11.) 19 Sep 2016 18:01:59
K99 it's your post! Lol you posted the trade.


 

 

09 Sep 2016 19:39:00
Reports are no go for contract negotiations for little Johnny in Cow town.

So. Borje back at you bud.
Little Johnny + 3rd for Riley Sheahan :p.

k99

1.) 09 Sep 2016 20:09:04
Jonny's agent is asking for $8 mil, he won't get that and the 2 sides will probably settle for something around $7.125 realistically. Tarasenko is getting $7.5 so he won't clear that hurdle.

He won't be traded unless he decides to sit out the season, in which case he'll ruin his own salary demands anyways.


2.) 09 Sep 2016 20:17:37
Anyone know FOR SURE what happens to his RFA status if he does sit out a year? Does he become a UFA?


3.) 09 Sep 2016 20:37:05
If he doesn't play then he still owes his rfa years.


4.) 09 Sep 2016 20:40:37
nope, he stays an rfa until he's either 27 or accrues 7 years of nhl service. so, technically, he could sit out the next 4 years and then become a UFA if he wants.


5.) 09 Sep 2016 20:56:05
Still a RFA. Becomes a UFA at 27 or 7 years in the league. I do believe Calgary would have 1 more RFA year if he does not play this year.


6.) 09 Sep 2016 21:29:44
K99
Gaudreau got 30 goals and 78 points. His worst season is 8 points better than nudges best. And, he doesn't play with 3 other number 1 overall picks. They aren't close in value. If Drai develops like Edmonton hopes, Nuge is a third line center. Oiler fans seem to think he is a number 1 center. He's not and his numbers support that. Plus, he is a health concern every year. Sheahan is not as good as him so I put a 1st with it that could very well be a top 10 pick. Fair value.


7.) 09 Sep 2016 22:37:42
If he stays an RFA for the next year, does he gain arbitration rights in his second year of RFA or gain the rights to have other teams produce an offer sheet?


8.) 09 Sep 2016 23:01:00
I guarantee you most (key word:most) of the Oilers fans think he's a top 6 forward, not a number one center at the moment.


9.) 10 Sep 2016 01:57:40
Team can put in a offer at any time. Offer sheets have never worked. I don't see it working in this case either.


10.) 10 Sep 2016 06:28:22
Idk why Nuge was brought into this as he wasn't included in anything in the main post, but anyways, yeah Nuge is a top 6 forward and he's proved that as he's been the Oilers top centerman for basically his entire career. Except now, with McDavid obviously and the development of Drat (not this year tho), he could very easily slide into 3rd line center, and that could give Oilers easily one of the most skilled center depth in the league (obviously if they all play well) . Also why does numbers always mean the world to everyone, Toews had 50 some points last year but he's still one of the best in the world. Idk why everyone gets wet over points.


 

 

06 Sep 2016 21:03:06
Van
Oli Juolevi and Virtanen.

Toronto
William Nylander and Martin Marincin.


Similar Style D-men with similar skill sets. Marincin being advanced in development to help Van now since they refuse to rebuild, and leafs get a prospect that should fit in with the age of the rest of their touted young core to play when their ready to compete for a playoff spot.

Van skirts the mistake made at the draft to get the possible scorer they need to play with the twins, plus a Dman that can play in the NHL right now.

k99

1.) 06 Sep 2016 21:22:45
Doubt Vancover consideres this Nylander is the best prospect in the trade but Vancover just drafted Joulevi.


2.) 06 Sep 2016 21:26:28
leafs pass, virtanen is a 2nd to 3rd line guy and oli is a great prospect, but a prospect at that. Nylander had a dominate first year in the ohl and a decent stint with the leafs and projects to be a first line player.


3.) 06 Sep 2016 22:39:17
Yeah no thanks from Vancouver.


4.) 06 Sep 2016 22:43:42
Mclarty what are you talking about Nylander playd in Europe not OHL his draft year.


5.) 06 Sep 2016 22:43:47
What mclarty said except I assume he meant AHL, not NHL.


6.) 06 Sep 2016 22:58:06
Ahl not ohl type.


7.) 06 Sep 2016 23:17:12
That is god awful for Vancouver oh my god.


8.) 07 Sep 2016 00:38:53
I honestly don't think it's that bad. It's never going to happen regardless. But nylander had the ability to be an elite forward. Marincin is another thing. And juolevi has a chance to be very good but I don't believe virtanen is much more than a middle 6 player, maybe bottom 6. They're not going to trade a young D they JUST used a top 5 pick on but value wise I don't think it's crazy.


9.) 07 Sep 2016 01:03:28
It's not really god awful McJesus Nylander is miles better than Virtanen still pretty bad tho haha.


10.) 07 Sep 2016 01:19:26
Brutal for Vancouver. Wow.


11.) 07 Sep 2016 03:11:38
Agreed with JF12 haha.


12.) 07 Sep 2016 06:00:29
How can you say similar skilled dmen juolevi is offensive high skill Marincin is a defensive dman 2 totally different dmen.

I see virtanan is going to be a impact forward top 6 love the way this kid plays hard nosed gritty Canadian kid all teams need that.


13.) 07 Sep 2016 16:21:00
Agree those 2 dmen are nothing alike. Marincin was in oilers system for years, That must be why k99 sees him as similar to a potential stud offensive catalyst lol.


 

 

31 Aug 2016 16:57:58
Calgary
Douggie Hamilton


Toronto
Kadri
Marincin.

k99

1.) 31 Aug 2016 17:04:34
That's a horrible offer for Hamilton especially when RHD are at a premium right now.


2.) 31 Aug 2016 17:22:57
Treveling laughs at Lou and informs him he should probably retire to an old folks home.


3.) 31 Aug 2016 18:12:48
Didn't expect that the overpaid dud Hamilton would require more than that for a trade, especially since Calgary needs a #2 center pretty bad and gets another Dman outta the deal.

Ok I gethcha. RHD needed back then.
Trade tweak.?

Roman Polak
Nazem Kadri

for
Douggie
Shinkarek
4th rounder.


4.) 31 Aug 2016 18:17:26
Very brutal offer for Dougie.


5.) 31 Aug 2016 18:24:18
Another great post K99. Keep up the great work man. Absolutely killing it with these.


6.) 31 Aug 2016 18:41:30
The one with Polak is much worse!


7.) 31 Aug 2016 18:53:13
Hamilton is still a younger developing d-man that should improve. His major detriment is his contract. He is worth more than the Tor package now.


8.) 31 Aug 2016 18:57:29
K99
You really are clueless are you? You say Calgary needs a #2C eh? What do you think Sam Bennett is/ will be? They also have Backlund, who is more of a 3rd liner but could jump up and play 2C if needed.


9.) 31 Aug 2016 18:58:17
That last offer is probably 10x worse than the other one. I am guessing that they would want someone like Nylander in return for Dougie tbh.


10.) 31 Aug 2016 19:06:50
K99 what are you taking about Calgary desperately needing a 2nd line center? They have Bennet, he is young and very capable of playing on the second line. Also Hamilton is not an overpaid dud. He is still young and has the potential to be an elite defense man for years to come. Next will it be Gio for Yak?


11.) 31 Aug 2016 19:08:57
What BJ said. Bennett will be there this year or in the very near future. Dougie does have an expensive contract, but he put up 43 points last year and Kadri put up 45 so I'd take Dougie anyday over that package.

Also the second proposal is probably worse as Polak is a bottom pairing dman and Shinkaruk has offensive potential.


12.) 31 Aug 2016 19:40:32
K99
Kadri for klefbom, yak and a second.


13.) 31 Aug 2016 19:41:15
BJ
WOW. You have a great imagination. but facts are Sam Bennett is a decent career 3rd liner grinder at best and not a 2nd liner let alone a 2nd line center. lol. Backlund is a 4th liner that fits in well with the current roster of low skill high effort 4th liners on the team. ( excluding mono and little J of course) Instead of getting mad and insulting. we welcome YOUR trade rumors if you think there is a better trade for the overpaid underachieving Hamilton that YOU think works better for both teams? Salary in is very close to Salary out for this proposal already.


Islandjet,
agreed. Fact . yes he is way overpaid for what he gave back last year, but granted is young and may improve to be closer to his salary value. I will add . Don't forget that Kadri is young too and also has the same potential to improve as Hamilton.

What do you think TO should give up with Kadri to make the trade even?


14.) 31 Aug 2016 22:36:44
I'm just shocked that you think subbing polak into the trade for marincin somehow justifies the flames needing to add a young prospect and a pick. I don't think the first offer would fly, but the second one is so much worse. Kadri is a very useful player, still pretty young, marincin isn't terrible, but a year ago he couldn't make the oilers, that has to mean something. But Hamilton does have a decent chance of being very good. And young RHD with offensive potential is going to bring a better package or he stays put. Need a good prospect or good pick added from leafs.


15.) 31 Aug 2016 22:40:52
K99 just stop. You are brutal and think you know hockey but you just don't. Backlund is a good 3rd liner, he had 47 points last year. He was on track to have over 40 points the year before. What are you talking about Bennett being a career 3rd line grinder? That shows you are clue less. He is 20 and is already very skilled . I predict he gets atleast 50 points next season. Do you also think Sam Reinhart. Mitch Marner, and Dylan Strome are career third line grinders too? Please just stop.


16.) 31 Aug 2016 23:18:07
It's hard to tell if this K99 guy is trolling or actually that clueless most the time. Hoping he's not %100 of the time being serious. That would be embarrassing.


17.) 31 Aug 2016 23:23:38
The fact you try and "state facts" already a makes me laugh a bit, but if you seriously think Bennett is only a third line player you are just digging your hole deeper and deeper. Also like I already said, this is a horrendous offer for Hamilton. I get your passionate about all your thoughts and comments but you have no clue what you're talking about.


18.) 31 Aug 2016 23:44:48
How is Hamilton over paid? He scored 43 points as a 22 year old. K99, your hockey knowledge is brutal. Considering the Hall-Larsson trade, to get Hamilton your looking at Marner +.


19.) 01 Sep 2016 00:12:33
Unbiased. Who from the leafs is a RHD worth 2 mill to sub for Polak then? Salary in = Salary out as a guide for the trades.


Xcing Sorry but Bennett will be most effective as a 3rd line grinder on any real contending team. He's currently promoted to the 2nd in Calgary due to no forward depth on the Calgary team. If you think otherwise then it is you that are fooled. The Flames forwards excluding Johnny and Mono are ALL 4th line hard working less skilled forwards on any contending team, that are thrust into 2nd and 3rd line duty Me thinks you better get the NHL center ice package and watch a few more Flames games there bud because your assessment on the Flame players needs a little tweaking.

yup
No I'm not trolling. Value of the players is bang on having watched almost every Flames game in the 2015/ 16 Season.
Polak's ability. Ok. maybe I'm a bit out of sync with. I put him in the deal only to make the salary dollars out = in. There might be a better RHD on the leafs to use for the trade? Trust me. when it comes to the Alberta teams. I know what I'm talking about talent wise.


20.) 01 Sep 2016 00:38:21
Yeah after that Bennett statement I honestly think he's trolling but he's writing lengthy replays so who know. Better off ignored.


21.) 01 Sep 2016 01:26:22
K99 I watched almost all the Flames games they are my favourite team. That being said I may be a bit bias onwards them but I try not to be. Maybe Bennett was a 3rd liner last year but he is entering his second season and if you have watched any Flames games you would know what this guy is capable of. He is extremely skilled and can most definitely play on the second line. He got 36 points in his rookie season which is respectable. Is Brouwer a 4th liner because he wasn't on St. Louis who made it to the conference finals. What about Frolik? Also the fact that you said "Me thinks" says enough. But of course you are always right and everyone else on the site is wrong. Forget Treliving that should hire you. Your first trade:
Gio, Hamilton, Brodie, Monny, and Johnny for Yak and a 7th.


22.) 01 Sep 2016 06:45:21
What the heck is this guy on?


23.) 01 Sep 2016 15:00:30
K99 nobody lol just because they need RHD, doesn't mean if you offer your best RHD (even if sadly it's Roman polak) they have to take it lol I'm fine with people throwing ideas out and then others have their input and build off a starting point but you can't build a gem off shit. The whole trade needs to start again but I can only assume the next one is t going to be any better.


24.) 01 Sep 2016 15:58:14
Xcing.
Makes sense as to why you have the mindset you do. The world colored red glasses are on all the time over rating the 4th liners the team has. Good thing you're not a GM with those evaluations.


 

 

30 Aug 2016 15:45:53
Still no Little J progress for a contract in Cowtown so it appears the Flames do not consider him an essential piece of the puzzle moving forward. so:

Toronto
Kadri
Nylander
Conditional 1st round pick



Calgary
Little J.
2nd round pick.

k99

1.) 30 Aug 2016 15:58:30
Oh give it up. Of course they consider him an essential piece. He's in the same boat as Lindholm, Kucherov, Trouba, etc. He'll be signed before the season starts.


2.) 30 Aug 2016 15:58:45
Also, Calgary says no.


3.) 30 Aug 2016 16:38:07
Did you come to the same conclusion with Stamkos when he was about to leave for free agency? Saying he is not an essential piece is ridiculous. They will get a deal done before the start of the season.


4.) 30 Aug 2016 16:49:20
Toronto passes, as good as he is he's not worth that.


5.) 30 Aug 2016 19:04:51
He's definitely worth at least that.


6.) 30 Aug 2016 19:11:22
Cal is in the driver's seat and if they can't sign him to a multiyear contract they will give him a bridge deal. This also goes for the other top RFA. The Flames won't be trading him at this point especially to the leafs for that lame package.


7.) 30 Aug 2016 19:26:27
Just because you don't get a contract immeadiately doesn't mean you're not an essential piece. He's their most skilled player. He will be signed after World Cup for sure.


8.) 30 Aug 2016 19:38:26
Excellent post as usual K99 :| Great insight and display of your knowledge lol.


9.) 30 Aug 2016 19:39:17
I can see both teams saying no to that, but saying he's not an essential piece is dumb. Just because every team doesn't hand every 21 year old kid $6 million no questions asked before they earned it like the oilers did (Hall, Eberle, RNH) doesn't mean he's not a piece of their future. They're being careful and thorough. You don't even know what he's asking for. Rumors are around 6.5 but for all we know he could want 8.5 mill. Would that be the flames fault for not signing?


10.) 30 Aug 2016 20:55:59
Hall is underpaid at 6mil, and at the time Ebs signed his contract he put up 76 points in the NHL. And then Nuge was filling up their #1 center spot. I'm not saying both Nuge and Ebs deserved the 6mil, but clearly they were that important at the time where they were going to get it regardless.


11.) 30 Aug 2016 21:17:39
BJ96

Don't see your trade proposal up here?
Amuse us with YOUR insightful trade rumor.


And. Food for thought. Careful When talking about hockey knowledge.
Don't forget.
I was the one that called the Hall for Larsson trade way before anyone even the "experts" in the Media thought of it. The amateurs laughed. and when it happened. Who was the one laughing?


12.) 30 Aug 2016 22:55:14
I'm not saying they don't earn their money. I'm saying the oilers we quick to give it to them. I'm saying we shouldn't criticize a team for being careful and taking their time giving out 7-8 year deals at big cap hits because lots do backfire.


13.) 31 Aug 2016 01:27:55
I'm sure you did K99. I'm sure you also predicted Leafs would draft Matthews 1st overall.


14.) 31 Aug 2016 03:24:32
Yeah for sure, unless Calgary is certain they want to pay Johnny that much money and think he will be worth every dollar, I wouldn't rush it either. I was just saying about why Oilers did it tho haha no worries.


 

 

 

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19 Sep 2016 15:41:06
Rate the untradeable assets in order that you would like LEAST to see on your team.


1. Evander Kane
2. Dennis Wideman
3. Joffry Lupul
4. Alex Burrows
5. Tomas Plekenec
6. David Clarkson.

k99

1.) 19 Sep 2016 17:17:09
Clarkson
burrows
lupul
wideman
kane
plekenec.


2.) 19 Sep 2016 17:39:31
Agreed Colt except Lupul is more untradebale than Burrows.


3.) 19 Sep 2016 17:59:41
How are Plekenec (spelling? ) And Kane untradable? Oh and nice job not putting any oilers in their. Here's my list.

1) Clarkson
2) Fayne
3) Bolland
4) Lupul
5) Girardi/ Brown/ Callahan (couldn't decide which one)
HM) RNH.


4.) 19 Sep 2016 20:07:17
CX Oilers don't have any untradeable contracts. Pouliot, Sekera, Fayne, Lucic would have to be the worst off the top of my head but there still probably tradeable.


5.) 19 Sep 2016 20:14:54
Charles.
Plekanec has a 6 mill contract and makes WAY too much for what he does. Montreal made a boo boo giving him this money. Most Hab fans reluctantly agree and happily wait for his cap dollars to re-sign Price to a nice new 10 mill a year contract. Kane is just a bad team player with an arrogant attitude and off ice issues. Nothing against his play, He has the skill just a team moral buster.

I would have thought you would have put Yakupov on the list. *L*

Everyone wants RNH. all be it for nothing. But realistically don't think he is worthy of the list and this is a get even bash.

Fayne. Ok. I can see it.
Dustin Brown is a gooder to add to the list as well.

Anyone got any other good candidates?


 

 

08 Aug 2016 17:00:23
Edmonton
Wayne Gretzky statue

Boston
Paul Revere statue
2nd round pick

Edmonton sacrifices their prized possession to attain their 2nd rounder back for hiring PC.

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19 Sep 2016 21:39:43
Top Shelfer.
I wouldn't know. why don't you tell us what it's like?

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19 Sep 2016 20:29:47
Edmonton is better off keeping Davidson, and I think Yak will be a better Offensive talent.
Sproule isn't an NHL'r yet and Edm needs experienced Dmen now so losing the #4 Dman on the roster for a handful of beans is a bad trade.

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19 Sep 2016 19:28:14
Smid for Ference would have been a better trade. Lol

X Flame for X Oiler.
Both on the IR and not able to play.

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19 Sep 2016 18:21:53
Mc Jesus
Oh agree. something else has to go with RNH to Ottawa. But Ottawa isn't getting RNH + the something else unless it's Karlson in the mix. ( and no. Not for Phaneuf Not for Ceci + other average Joe. . Only Karlson)

It took too long for Edmonton to accrue the organizatioinal Center depth. Can't give it away for average Joe's. or Ceci's / Neil's in this case.

Yup
Don't think of it as looking bad. Think of it as we the Armchair GM's are of the mindset that the Oilers DO NOT want to give up the best 2 way player they have on the team that puts in 100% effort game in and game out. Some players on the team have been accused of less than 100% efforts game in and game out. But not him. Trading the 1 guy ( with respect to Hendrix ) that does put in this effort is a bad organizational move. He's ONLY 23. Best years to come. The trolls know this and push for the undervaluation in the trade. Why do you think he's always listed in trades? Because they want him and want him for nothing to improve their team.
Sorry, this asset is too valuable and you got to play hardball with the trolls trying to attain him for average joe players. If you're a true Oilers fan that watches the games you understand his true value. If you're a Calgary troll, who wishes misfortune upon the Oilers you push for the asset to be gone for the scraps usually listed.

I do not appologize for my valuation of this important piece and give REAL GM PC full marks for not doing something stupid and trading him for the garbage suggested by the people that want him. but don't want to give an equal piece back.

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19 Sep 2016 17:52:55
McJ
Lucic has had episodes in his younger days. I think that's what the jealous Lucic didn't sign with us patrons are trying to point out. I would think that he has matured as we all do when we get older.

Kassian did a great job turning his life around. He's not out of the woods quite yet. Let's hope for his personal sake that he continues to progress forward in this regard.

Ebs. Then list 2018 2nd.
Doesn't matter trade is a NO GO anyways regardless of the year of the pick.

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19 Sep 2016 20:14:54
Charles.
Plekanec has a 6 mill contract and makes WAY too much for what he does. Montreal made a boo boo giving him this money. Most Hab fans reluctantly agree and happily wait for his cap dollars to re-sign Price to a nice new 10 mill a year contract. Kane is just a bad team player with an arrogant attitude and off ice issues. Nothing against his play, He has the skill just a team moral buster.

I would have thought you would have put Yakupov on the list. *L*

Everyone wants RNH. all be it for nothing. But realistically don't think he is worthy of the list and this is a get even bash.

Fayne. Ok. I can see it.
Dustin Brown is a gooder to add to the list as well.

Anyone got any other good candidates?

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19 Sep 2016 20:06:05
Sorry Xcing. K99 did not say any such thing.

K99 said that if Ottawa wants RNH the trade would INCLUDE Karlson othewise RNH would not be in the trade and retained in Edmonton.
RNH + something for Karlson is what I said.

RNH is only 23. There are a lot of years to win this trophy left in him. Unlikely it will be this year, but I think he will BE A CANDIDATE if when the Oilers have some playoff success and the Eastern writers can see him play, as that's who has the majority of the voting pull it seems. RNH got shafted on the vote for the Calder already, and without the success in the playoffs, the Eastern writers will vote for who they see the most.

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14 Sep 2016 19:50:27
Oilers protection list 7 forwards 3 D.

Eberle
Hopkins
Draisetl
Pouliot
Maroon
Yak ( after resigning after a productive year)



Klefbom
Larsson


Manditory protected due to NMC
Lucic
Sekera

Tender
Talbot


Nurse exempt
Puljarrvi exempt
McD exempt.

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12 Sep 2016 23:24:34
Edmonton prefers to keep the already in the NHL'r Yakupov vs the maybe make the NHL'r Poirier.

Doubtful a deal can be made as Calgary is in a cap problem situation and shouldn't take on more cap till little J's dollar value is at least figured out.

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09 Sep 2016 20:15:47
With organizational embarrassment on the face the Oilers "mulligans"

Shane Doan ( as the whole arena chanted at the draft table) over Steve Kelly. : (

AND. yes an AND.

Patick Elias instead of Jason Bonsignor.

k99