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27 Feb 2019 16:10:09
read an article that included fixing the oilers forwards and they had some trades in there that i'd like to share to hear some opinions:

oil: Nurse + rights to Marino (NCAA)
jets: Ehlers
Reasoning is if jets lose Myers and trouba they will need a guy there and nurse could be a great fit there while on a good cap hit

oil: Lucic + 2020 1st round pick
sens: Pageau
Ottawa will be brutal again and will need to hit the cap floor, after lucic is paid his bonus on july 1 he can be traded with a tiny bit more value and he can easily be flipped at the deadline if Ott retains

oil: Benning
leafs: Brown
so just like mcjesus posted. if leafs lose gardiner they could take a gamble on low cost and young dman and then oilers get a good 3rd liner they could use.

These are the lines mentioned in the article after the trades:

Ehlers-Mcdavid-Yamamoto
Nuge-Drat-Puljujarvi
Brown-Pageau-Gagner
Khaira-Brodziak/ cave-Kassian/ Chaisson

Obviously some of these players need to be resigned and in the article they were. But ya thoughts on the three trades?

notdelusional

1.) 27 Feb 2019 16:52:30
I can't see the Oilers trading Nurse as they have a very poor defense and can't afford to get rid of one of their top 2 players. Its time to dump the deadwood and perenial losers in favor of a draft and develop philosophy. This might take 3 to 4 years in order to make them a serious threat.


2.) 27 Feb 2019 17:16:34
I think that EDM needs Nurse more than Ehlers and I think Pageau is worth more than a 1st and Lucic. Just my 2 cents.


3.) 27 Feb 2019 17:38:41
i agree islandjet we definitely should not trade nurse as we don't have that depth (well we kinda do for LHD now) but i don't want to trade him as in a couple years sekera and russell will be gone. and turkey i 100% disagree with you. he is a 30 point player (5 pt in 21 games this year) and is a 3rd line center at his peak (not that this is a bad peak) . Ottawa is now confirmed to be years away until they will be in playoff contention and loading up with another 1st round will help as well as needing lucic's contract for them to have enough cap. and like i/ article said, ottawa can flip lucic and retain some of his contract and that will give him a huge boost in value. But that's just my 2 cents as well! thanks for sharing your opinions.


4.) 27 Feb 2019 18:54:37
I can see how that improves their offence, but that would make their defence brutal unless they are hoping guys like jones and bear step up huge or sign some top defensemen in free agency.
yes from ottawa for sure, toronto i'd say would ask for small add. jets trade is close but i don't see them getting rid of ehlers for that.


5.) 27 Feb 2019 20:42:07
I could be wrong, but i like the way Pageau was playing a few years ago, i think he is in a rut with Ottawa and could benefit another team greatly. Maybe it is enough. I hope Pageau does get traded though because i think he has good potential with a better team.


6.) 28 Feb 2019 09:09:46
Hahahaha, Ottawa won't take lucic for only a 1st maybe a top 5 pick but that's it enjoy lucic he's on pace for 15 points lol.


7.) 28 Feb 2019 15:02:01
Turkey i think he's a solid 3rd line center but ya he's having a down year can't blame him too much and he's also missed a lot of games to so that sucks for him.


8.) 28 Feb 2019 20:37:08
Lucic would never return value even at a free cap hit.


9.) 01 Mar 2019 02:59:55
Haha. “Lucic easily flipped “. Then why haven’t the Oilers already “easily” traded him? Also, Lucic has a NTC or NMC. I don’t see him waving to go to the Sens.


10.) 01 Mar 2019 15:20:40
Taking in Lucic would handicap Ottawa. After their ELC’s run out, all the guys they drafted the last couple years, plus all the guys they will draft this year and next year, will be hard to fit under the cap with Lucic still on the payroll.


11.) 01 Mar 2019 19:23:39
LMFAO huge no from Ottawa, pageau staying put.

Maybe if it were Lucic a 2nd and a 1st for smith you be a lot closer but even then.


 

 

14 Feb 2019 18:30:52
Oilers: Talbot + Nurse

Flyers: Elliot + Provorov.

notdelusional

1.) 14 Feb 2019 18:52:45
You know what, if philly plans on offering a contract extension to Talbot and they in fact want him for long term I think that’s very interesting. Oilers upgrade with a more offensive dman while philly get Nurse back this is for sure interesting and I’d take this if I’m Edmonton.


2.) 14 Feb 2019 18:59:54
Absolutely not how can you think that’s a fair deal? Talbot isn’t bad cause of Talbot . Talbot is bad because Edmonton is terrible . The issues go deeper then the goaltending . P.


3.) 14 Feb 2019 19:08:08
I know provorov is having a down year to, while nurse currently has his career high for points (although provs is 41 from last year) but nurse for sure fits phillys style of tough hockey.


4.) 14 Feb 2019 19:19:04
I can't see Philly trading to get Talbot as they have had enough goalies that will not lead them to the playoffs and Provorov is much better than Nurse.


5.) 14 Feb 2019 19:48:53
donahuej i'd be lying if i said i know what you're talking about lol because i have no clue. Nobody said Talbot is bad haha.


6.) 14 Feb 2019 20:20:10
Lol that trade says Talbot is bad! Not delusional.


7.) 14 Feb 2019 20:53:27
I like the goalie swap, both need a backup but for different reasons, Edmonton needs a serviceable backup to Koskinen next season, while Philly needs a veteran backup to ease Hart into the starter role and both him and Talbot are friends.

The defense swap may interest Edmonton for cap reasons but I don't see Philly wanting to let go of Provorov this early.


8.) 14 Feb 2019 22:41:56
haha what how does it say he's bad! Oilers need to lose some cap and he's a ufa its almost guarenteed talbot is going to get traded haha.


9.) 14 Feb 2019 22:42:29
Yup i agree with your points Drwdave, not sure how willing philly would be to let go from provorov.


10.) 14 Feb 2019 23:01:42
Philly I’m sure says no easily. Provorov’s ceiling is a lot higher than Nurses. If they want Talbot and it sounds like they do, it’ll be for a lot smaller deal I think.
Also DrwDave I’m sure Provorov is going to be making more money than Nurse next year so it doesn’t help Edmonton with cap.


11.) 15 Feb 2019 01:11:55
Isn’t Provorov projected to be top 5 defenseman and potential Norris candidate? I don’t know if Philly would be willing to make that trade. Nurse is good, but not that good.


12.) 15 Feb 2019 02:07:10
Why nurse so overrated


 

 

05 Feb 2019 17:56:49
Oilers: Rattie

Jets: Petan.

notdelusional

1.) 05 Feb 2019 19:18:40
No thanks. The Jets have less need for Rattie than Petan.


2.) 05 Feb 2019 19:32:38
I’m up and down with Rattie but I’m not really sure about this one. Sure Petan you could say is more skilled but then again I have no idea how he’s been playing recently and I don’t even know if he’ll be able to hold down a permanent spot in the line up but worth a try.


3.) 05 Feb 2019 21:00:26
From what i have read Petan is on the block because he requires waivers to be sent down and jets don't want to lose him on the wire, so Oilers send a similar player to the jets and they can send rattie down on waivers and he won't be picked up (as he wasnt when edmonton placed him earlier) so that's the purpose to this post. Then oilers get another project player who they can see how he does.


4.) 06 Feb 2019 10:06:33
Petan is supposedly on the block. However, I'd rather wait and see if we can package him up with something else and get something we need, rather than take back dead weight for him.


 

 

 

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28 Jan 2019 22:06:30
Read a post off twitter and it had me wondering if there is any way a deal surrounding Milan Lucic for James Neal is possible. Both have the same contract but Neal's is 250k less.
Seen articles throughout the season that Calgary could use a big tough guy on their team and Neal is currently being used on the 3-4th line and if he's not scoring, he also does not bring a lot of grind to his game as he is a skill player. Both players currently have the same amount of points 12p in 50 games (Neal in 49).

Obviously more pieces will need to be involved, but wondering if there is anything that could work.

Also for the record, i personally would not trade Neal for Lucic. But i can see the swap of players potentially beneficial for both the team and players and wanted to see if i can get a discussion out of this because Neal has been flat out horrendous so far since joining Calgary and i wonder if the flames would consider moving him for a piece they might think they could use more on their bottom lines.

notdelusional

1.) 28 Jan 2019 23:04:59
We talked about it here a few days ago. In a one for one trade I think edm benefits the most.


2.) 28 Jan 2019 23:23:46
Being Calgary and Edmonton, the trade becomes harder to make., I really don't think the Flames should do this. I said earlier, that Neal is still capable of playing like a 25 to 30 goal man., that may happen come playoff time. ya never know. As for Lucic, ya he's tough, but doesn't use it properly, his offense ( even though he's scored a few latley) is a thing of the past. he's his not fast or quick enough, or skilled to be a top 6 the " New NHL" has passed Lucic by.


3.) 28 Jan 2019 23:54:47
I think, based on the past year or so, it just seems more likely that Neal can rebound. Even though their contracts are the same, Lucics physical style has seemingly worn down his body, and its very unlikely he ever becomes what he was. On the contrary, Neal just signed his deal and even though he's not that fast anymore, he has the tools to turn it around, and his body doesn't 'appear' as worn down as Lucic's.

It's an intriguing proposal, but I think if you're looking at trading Lucic, you'd be looking at a player of either the same physical, worn-out state as him [Backes, but EDM would have to add or Kesler] or someone injury prone like Eriksson.


 

 

24 Jan 2019 21:36:10
Backhandhockey's post when he said at the bottom "lets talk about it" engaged me into wanting to see if i can get a discussion on this topic.

Milan Lucic for James Neal

Both have 12 pts in 50 and 49 games, both have 4 years left on their contracts and Neal makes $250k less.

Iv read a lot on how Calgary needs more intimidation and grit, and Neal who has been mostly 3rd and 4th line at times does not bring that. I feel both of these players would benefit more if they swapped teams due to some needs.

For the record, i would not do this if i am Calgary. Just curious on other thoughts on if there is any way a trade like this could work out, with other pieces involved.

notdelusional

1.) 24 Jan 2019 23:27:37
I still think Neal could come out of this funk and play like a 25 to 30 goal man again. although Lucic has been scoring a little bit more, he's just not the guy he once was. he got old fast. maybe Neal did as well, just not ready to him right his goal scoring ability off yet.


2.) 24 Jan 2019 23:34:37
Flames have Tkatchuk, Bennet and Hathaway that bring a lot of grit so I don’t know if that’s that big of a need for them. But I mean at least Lucic brings something. If Neal isn’t getting points then his contract is way worse is it not? I guess the Oil might do it just for the potential offence.


3.) 25 Jan 2019 03:10:01
It doesn't seem like my last post went through so to make it short I think edmonton accepts this and calgary at least thinks about it.


4.) 25 Jan 2019 04:05:47
I also thought that Calgary had enough grit as well.


 

 

 

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07 Mar 2019 15:05:28
well puljujarvi is two years younger and has never played in north america before, dal colle sucks and clearly is a wasted draft pick at #5. when puljujarvi is 22 we will see where he's at and then we can compare.

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05 Mar 2019 23:22:07
If islanders really need a goalie then i'm sure they consider since Dal Colle sucks.

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01 Mar 2019 22:29:32
you also completely didn't write out the nurse +++++ for ehlers as i'm assuming that's what you came up with. since ehlers is in the lineup and nurse isnt.

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01 Mar 2019 22:27:42
man you took all this effort to make this post yet you call puljujarvi pullyarvi lol.

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01 Mar 2019 15:12:33
i mean if minny wants to keep trading for younger players (besides sekera) that works but honestly no from oilers we don't got the cap for those two player. Pool we just got to hope recovers from hisn surgery quickly and can train all summer and benson could be a player one day, looks great in the A as a rookie.

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