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04 Aug 2022 17:08:17
3 Team Trade - EDM / WPG / MTL


EDM; Dach, Savard

WPG; Puljujärvi, Dvorak, 2023 2nd (MTL)

MTL; Dubois, Barrie

oil10

1.) 04 Aug 2022 17:49:49
Horrible trade for the Jets. Pully and Dvorak are at best 3rd/ 4th line players that their teams are trying to dump and a useless 2nd round pick. It will take a better offer to get PLD from the Jets so stop with these one sided trades.


2.) 04 Aug 2022 17:56:21
Interesting, but it would be EDM supplying the 2nd to WPG, if not a 1st

Would be Great for EDM to acquire Joel Edmundson or Brenden Dillon ATST. MTL could use the spot to play Xhekaj or Guhle and WPG could stand to move an LD

I see WPG wanting Justin Barron to seal the deal and MTL offering WPG Born Madison Bowey and a 2nd Round Pick instead. MTL pretty much gets what they want/ need, they'd just want a Team Friendly long-term extension in place on Dubois. Can this happen now that he just signed a 1 year contract or do they have to wait!?


3.) 04 Aug 2022 18:03:47
Arguably WPG is getting Three 1st Round Picks + a 2nd in this proposal for Dubois: Puljujarvi Drafted 4th Overall, Dvorak Traded for a late-1st + 2024-2nd and MTL 2023-2nd will be an early pick = almost 1st Rounder

Unfortunately many here believe PJ & Dvorak are only worth 3rd Round Picks now, which is silly.


4.) 04 Aug 2022 19:17:28
TrevorA and oil10 Why don't you propose a trade Dvorak and Savard for Pully and Barrie. This would satisfy your wanting to dump easily replaceable players from each team as well as leaving PLD for the Jets to do what they want to do with him. The Jets don't want or need any of the players listed in this trade except possibly for Dach a very good A prospect and a #1 draft pick.


5.) 04 Aug 2022 19:29:06
Dvorak is worth a late first Puljuarvi is not. oilers made another big draft mistake wasting a high first on that guy.


6.) 04 Aug 2022 20:58:27
Awful for Winnipeg. The Jets give up the only quality in a top 6 player and in return get marginal bottom sixers and a second.

Montreal accepts instantly.


7.) 05 Aug 2022 01:37:42
@Islandjet That’s a good idea. Sorry you guys are stuck with the PLD situation. He seems to be a completely entitled nightmare to deal with. Never happy that guy, so instead of working it out, he wants to run. Has a bad reputation for taking shifts off.


8.) 05 Aug 2022 02:30:06
I don't agree with that take on PLD. He didn't get along with Tortorella at all and some of those Quebecois French guys can take even little things very personally particularly if they get the idea someone might be picking on them because they're French. The ones that grew up in hardcore Parti Quebecois territory were pretty much raised to believe "les Anglais" all hate them.

He asked for a trade and signed a cheap short term deal in Columbus specifically to make it easier for them to trade him.

In Winnipeg he's simply being honest by telling them he intends to test free agency. No doubt Montreal is his preferred destination, he probably will wind up there but that's not written in stone either.


9.) 05 Aug 2022 03:05:15
Island Jet is someone’s opinion on this site whom I respect very much. He posts infrequently but always makes sense when he does, agree or disagree. This deal makes zero sense for MTL too.

? Homer Deals.


10.) 05 Aug 2022 04:59:29
As far as Ranking this Trade for Teams improving, especially offensively, I think 1. WPG 2. MTL 3. EDM

Can WPG get better value for PLD, probably. Does MTL need Dubois & Barrie, no. Does EDM need a 3C and Stay at Home RD, Yes

As for Chickenfoot’s comment, I have a lot of respect for all of you. Agree or Disagree. Memarcus & NotACasual are Very Knowledgeable and Concise. MoxNix & IslandJet are Very Passionate, Provide Good Insight and are Concise. ChickenFoot is the Most Mature & Even Keeled. Ebsolutely & HockeyDad are always Interesting and Open for Debate, Oil10 & Pinball give us lots to discuss. Renidrag & vbbbvvv hold us accountable and challenge our ideas forcing us to think. MG69, Bossman, Sosa and everyone I missed all add value. TrevorA is just a guy looking to Analyze & Debate to Kill Time, Challenge His Mind and Gain Knowledge. Agree or Disagree, Love or Hate, I appreciate you all for giving me your time and attention. Now Quit Down Voting and Frustrating Me by not giving an Explaining for your Down Vote ?.


11.) 05 Aug 2022 13:24:29
Well TrevorA, I'd like to hear your explanation for how Winnipeg improves the most offensively with this trade.

The Jets give up 2 years of the only top 6 center in this deal and get 3 years of an average bottom six center and a malcontent, RFA meh bottom six winger along with a nothing pick.

Even disregarding points, how does trading a good top 6 center to pad the bottom 6 help offensively? Dubois was a huge part of Connor scoring 47 goals.

2 years of Dubois is worth far more to Winnipeg than 3 years of Dvorak and a couple marginal pieces.


12.) 05 Aug 2022 15:04:43
Dubois and his agent had to have noticed how the Tkachuk situation played out in Calgary. I'd imagine there's a good chance he'll try to do the same thing next year.

If he's willing to sign long term with a handful of teams and work with the team the way Tkachuk did with Calgary then Winnipeg could wind up getting full value for Dubois too.

Maybe Calgary would be on his list. If so they should be very interested he'd be a great fit as a top 6 center.


13.) 05 Aug 2022 15:05:56
Hey MOX, I’m not so sure it’s logical, let alone appropriate, to suggest one group of people is more sensitive than another, or assume that they feel English-speaking people hate them.

We can agree or disagree on hockey players or moves, but stereotypes about culture are out of place when discussing hockey.


14.) 05 Aug 2022 15:13:40
Winnipeg holds all the cards with PLD. RFA after this season still so a qualifying offer keeps him there until they can get what they want for him. Likes it's been said MTL is likely his preferred destination and he would fit in nicely with the players they have there and the direction they are trying to go.

Puljujarvi is another example of the Oilers rushing their players into the league before they should be there. Had they let him have a year or two over in Finland and brought him over for AHL or NHL playoffs I feel he would have developed accordingly.


15.) 05 Aug 2022 16:08:50
@Chickenfoot I didn't say all French Quebecers are like that, just the hardcore Parti Quebecois ones.

Believe me, I know that for a fact. I've met a lot of them when I was in the military. Many aren't like that at all, many others realize the truth is nobody hate them after spending a few years in English Canada.


16.) 05 Aug 2022 16:52:01
PLD had a Good Season, but only put up 0.74PPG (0.64PPG last 2 Seasons) . Dvorak definitely isn't as good, but would add more Depth Scoring @3C. I predict Puljujarvi will put up at least 21G+33A=54PTS @2RW with 82GP:

Connor-Scheifele-Ehlers
Stastny/ S. Milano-Wheeler-Puljujarvi
M. Perrault/ J. Larsson/ Dahlen/ S. Steel-Dvorak-S. Gagner/ E. Rodrigues
M. Barron-Lowry-Appleton/ Stenlund

A much more balanced lineup should increase Scoring, but I do see WPG wanting Dach, J. Barron and/ or Top Picks to give up PLD.


17.) 05 Aug 2022 18:26:49
I believe that the Jets would be better off trading PLD one for one with a young top end center if they can't sign him long term by the draft. Lesser skilled quantity never makes up for one skilled quality piece. These trade scenario's that try to get the Jets to take lesser pieces for PLD just don't make sense.


18.) 05 Aug 2022 19:08:11
So basically Nick Suzuki or don't bother MTL.


19.) 05 Aug 2022 19:18:33
Wow Trevor, you really like Puljujarvi. If he couldn't hit those numbers stapled to McDavid and Draisaitl, I can't see him getting those point totals without them.

It's likely all moot anyways. Now that Dubois is under contact, he won't be moved until the TDL at the earliest, barring a crazy good offer. Which this one isn't.


20.) 05 Aug 2022 20:48:11
I just think he's Better and Worth More than many of the posters here. Hard to find a Right Shot with Size that can Score, not to mention play two-way hockey. I don't think he got as much TOI & opportunity with McDavid & Draisaitl either. They didn't pass or include him in a lot of the Offensive Zone plays. Puljujarvi earned most of his Points by going to the Front of the Net or Sniping it. He puts in Good Effort and still has more Potential and Room to Grow IMO, but fair points, I do think it takes a Bonafide Star or Young Prospect to get PLD, like it took to get Tkachuk.


21.) 05 Aug 2022 20:49:55
I'd rather have Puljujarvi @3mil than Josh Anderson @5.5mil.


22.) 05 Aug 2022 22:28:34
JET: I respect the ask for Suzuki, but MTL must decline that.

Dubois will bring a nice return, but MTL shouldn’t consider any trade of picks or prospects for a high-end piece. MTL needs to stink it up for at least 2 more years and draft high with as many picks as possible. Dubois is a good player who would improve them just enough to possibly lift them out of the bottom 3, and that doesn’t help them long-term, in my humble opinion.

In short, WPG deserves a solid package for Dubois, but let it come from a non-rebuilding team like the Habs. ?.


23.) 05 Aug 2022 23:42:16
That's an excellent position to take Chickenfoot, it's totally understandable.

IMO, Montreal and Winnipeg aren't good trading partners for Dubois. Montreal won't want to and shouldn't give up the assets Winnipeg would ask for and the Jets have no reason to accept anything less than exactly what they want right now.


24.) 06 Aug 2022 02:23:10
I think you said it better Memarcus?.


25.) 06 Aug 2022 20:07:39
@Chickenfoot “Don’t take it so personally, it’s just b-s’ing about theoretical trades. Who cares if some name on a page doesn’t agree with you? It’s all good boys…wait till at least 10am and pour yourself a cold one…and make it a great day”

“The irony sometimes is funnier than intended. ” ?.


 

 

28 Jul 2022 20:37:28
EDM / MTL
(ARZ & CHI included for cap help)

EDM;
Savard (ARZ retains $1M)
Anderson (CHI retains $1.5M)

MTL;
Puljujärvi
Barrie

ARZ;
Samorukov

CHI;
Savoie
2024 5th (EDM)


** To help make the cap work

EDM;
2024 3rd round pick (NJD)

NJD;
Foegele

oil10

1.) 28 Jul 2022 21:25:17
Samoa who? I'm NOT a Buffalo fan by anymeans but they are nowhere near that dumb lol Savoie straight up for that guy is a HELL NO! Let alone adding a pick lol Savoie will be a top 6 stud. Why would they move that for this dismal return? Lol.


2.) 28 Jul 2022 23:38:02
MyBad - I don't think you read the post at all . Buffalo isn't even apart of it . LMAO!

Oilers have Carter Savoie and Dmitri Samorukov in their system.

You got the wrong Savoie in mind . and Buffalo wasn't even mentioned! LOL.


3.) 30 Jul 2022 13:43:27
Horrible trade for MTL.

? Homer Trades.


4.) 31 Jul 2022 14:48:08
Oil10 lmfao yep lol I misread haha got me on that.


5.) 01 Aug 2022 03:41:06
MTL would be so lucky to move out $9mil in 2 Aging Players who have Peaked for a Young Former 4th Overall Pick on an Upward Trajectory and a Star RD to replace Petry.

Barrie’s probably a Better Mentor for the Young Guys coming up as well and if MTL wants to tank to get Better Draft Position = Connor Bedard than this would do that AND it opens up $1.5mil in Cap Space.


6.) 01 Aug 2022 14:46:48
Montreal says no.


7.) 02 Aug 2022 20:29:45
Kudos to MyBad & Oil10 working things out in a gentlemanly fashion. ?.


 

 

18 Mar 2022 11:59:54
Oilers at the deadline .....


EDM; Braun, 2022 4th

PHI; Kassian, Koekkoek
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EDM; Deslauriers, Lindholm

ANA; Foegele, Barrie
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EDM; Kukan

CBJ; Lagesson

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15 Mar 2022 18:26:26
EDM: 2023 3rd

ARI; Smith, Benson
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EDM; Soucy, 2022 4th

SEA; Barrie
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EDM: Mayfield

NYI; 2023 3rd, Lagesson
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EDM; Fleury ($3M retained),
2022 3rd (EDM), 2022 4th

CHI; 2022 1st, Foegele

oil10

1.) 15 Mar 2022 23:28:07
Chicago trade is awful. They're asking price is a 1st+ top prospect, possibly another mid round pick to take back salary, not give away draft picks.


2.) 16 Mar 2022 02:18:08
I’d be shocked if Chicago even gets a 1st. Bishop got Budaj, Cernak and a 7th a few years ago. Can’t think of any other comparables.


 

 

14 Mar 2022 13:02:18
EDM;
Soucy
2022 4th

SEA;
Barrie
Shore
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EDM;
Fleury ($3M retained)
2022 3rd round pick (EDM)
2022 3rd round pick (VGK)

CHI;
Foegele
2022 1st round pick (EDM)
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EDM;
Mayfield

NYI;
Lagesson
Perlini
2022 3rd
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EDM;
Pysyk

BUF;
Smith
Koekkoek

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08 Dec 2021 14:41:41
Oilers have the skilled players but they are missing the physical players. These types of players are needed to up the tempo if scoring isn't there. They have Kassian who is suppose to bring that but the last few years he has steered away from it.

Here are a few players the Oilers should get;
Deslauriers
Hathaway
Gudas

These 3 players always play hard and take the body. These guys would make the bottom six and the bottom pairing D a lot more physical.

oil10

1.) 08 Dec 2021 15:24:00
I like Ryan at 4C and Sceviour can play physical so I think adding only one winger that plays hard would be a good idea. Someone that’ll be in the lineup every night instead of Perlini, Benson, Turris being shuffled in and out. Not as concerned about a physical D but one that can play 15+ minutes would be nice to add.


2.) 08 Dec 2021 17:22:36
How about Ben Chiarot? He would be a good fit.


3.) 09 Dec 2021 00:51:20
No way Hathaway or Gudas are going anywhere this year. Anaheim may be fighting for a playoff spot also. Look at bottom feeder teams for available players.


4.) 09 Dec 2021 02:04:54
I think Chariot would be a really good add. Do you think he gets more or less than a 2nd? Haven’t heard much about how his season is going.


5.) 09 Dec 2021 04:38:34
I did read where Chiarot could fetch a first. I think that is on the high side., but obviously be happy of he took it. as for his season, well, no one on the Canadiens has been good this season. Last year in the playoffs this guy was a machine. Some will say Weber was the reason for his success, but I believe he is a Hard nosed D man that is exactly what the Oilers need. he's capable of some offense as well, he's a decent all around Dman capable of playing big minutes against top line guys.
He is prone to take a stupid penalty though.


 

 

01 Apr 2021 14:42:58
Oilers need more bigger grittier style of players.

They have too many "smaller style" of players;
McD
RNH
Yamo
Drai(he is big but not gritty)
Pools(again big but not gritty)
Turris
Ennis
Barrie
Russell
Bear
Nurse(again big but not gritty like he should be)
*Thats 11 players!!!

Mcd, Drai and Nurse are not going anywhere but I would be open to trading some of the rest to get some Bigger and Grittier players.
Players like a young Perry or Chara, a Wilson or Reeves. The Oilers need these style of plays throughout their line up. They get pushed around too much.

Possible Options;
Dougie Hamilton (top 4 D)
Jamie Oleksiak (top 4 D)
Anthony Mantha (1st or 2nd line)
T.J. Miller (1st line)
Ryan Getzlaf (2nd or 3rd line C)
Marcus Foligno (3rd line)
Chris Kreider (2nd or 3rd line)
Austin Watson (4th line)

The Oilers just need to get some bigger players in their line up.

oil10

1.) 01 Apr 2021 18:28:55
These players might not be “gritty” but there not “smaller style” of players. McDavid is strong on the puck and definitely not small. Yamo throws lots of hits and is quick on the forecheck. Drai doesn’t hit often but uses his size in different ways. Puljujarvi is heavy on the forecheck and in front of the net. Ennis similar to Yamo. Don’t think Bears size is an issue. Nurse is probably one of the stronger guys in the league, and isn’t afraid to fight anyone. And some of the players you named are almost a point per game players that don’t need to be gritty.


2.) 01 Apr 2021 19:43:18
Ya they are not so called small is size but they are not gritty or power forwards. McD and Drai are strong on the puck and that's great. I do like Yamo cause he throws hits but he also gets tossed around a lot. And I agree about Nurse but he doesn't use it like he should. And Yes Bear is good too . but your missing my point. There is just too many of those plays.

Bear, Barrie, Russell, 3 D-men that are small. Then add Nurse who doesn't use his strength enough and Lagesson who is still learning the NHL. There needs to be a mixture of grit and size. So they don't get pushed around in front of our net.

I just feel that there needs to be more size so they don't get beat in battles and can score those grease goals. We have the top 2 players in the NHL so they have the skill but just lacking in the grit and size.


3.) 01 Apr 2021 23:29:49
Mantha would be a solid add.


4.) 02 Apr 2021 14:53:34
I don’t know I see McDavid as a more skilled Matt Cooke/ Ralffi Touris loves to make cheap shots. Probably dirtiest player in NHL.


5.) 02 Apr 2021 19:49:53
I agree with most of what Ebs said but please don’t say Ennis is physical.


6.) 02 Apr 2021 22:52:11
Lol no I think I just mean aggressive on the forecheck. I actually thought Yamo through more hits than he’s credited for. Either way I don’t think Yamo’s size is much of an issue. Ennis might be better off replaced with a bigger player considering he’s in the bottom 6.


7.) 03 Apr 2021 15:12:05
Just checking Ebs. I watching him play in Toronto and if he hit anyone, it was accidental. Just like the rest of the leaf team. I think Edmonton is built well for the playoffs.


8.) 04 Apr 2021 22:15:01
Toronto17, Edmonton and Leafs are both great regular season team. They are not playoffs teams, unless they end up playing each other in round 1 that’s how far they will go.


9.) 05 Apr 2021 20:16:09
A few years back the oilers looked good and physical in their playoff run. If Kassian and Nurse play a physical game, that’s all you need. Not everyone has to hit and fight but the presence needs to be there. I like Montreal’s team but you seem to think they are the team to beat.


10.) 06 Apr 2021 03:03:01
Mtl will be the team to beat in the North comes playoff time. They have at least 4 game in their pockets on other teams and still manage to hold tight for a playoff spot. The worse is that they haven’t even started playing to the potential they have. With the quality depth they have and the Stanley cup winners they have on the team they are serious cup contenders to anyone who knows what it takes to win in the NHL.


11.) 06 Apr 2021 19:39:21
I guess we will see. They haven’t even started playing to their potential is quite comical. That could be said about every team considering nobody knows what that is. It could be said that a few Montreal players are playing above average right now.


 

 

04 Mar 2021 14:21:27
The Oilers last 3 games have made it clear that they are still not good enough. Their weakest areas are the same every year ... Defense and Goal !!

Players that might be available?

DEFENSE:

ANA - Lindholm
(team is going to be rebuilding)

NAS - Ekholm

CAR - Hamilton
(read that both sides are far apart on a new contract. I would be good with giving him 5yrs @ $8M)

Goalies;

ARZ - Kuemper

CBJ - Korpisalo
(hasn't been great this year but he has been and is young)

ANA - Gibson
(he probably isn't available but he would be the best goalie to get)

MTL - Price
(read rumors that the Oilers are interest in him)

I feel the Oilers need 2 better D-men and a Goalie. So which ones could they get and who would they need to trade?? (realistic trade)

Like they say ...."Offence wins you games but Defense wins you Championships!!"

oil10

1.) 04 Mar 2021 17:48:57
You could’ve added all 6 peices and still lost last night.


2.) 04 Mar 2021 17:57:16
Problem is they don’t have the prospects and assets along with cap to really do anything.


3.) 04 Mar 2021 20:46:03
The Oil have there 1st this year and a bunch of good prospects. I think Korpisalo is the guy they should go after. Maybe a 1st, Skinner and Marody? Good pick and a couple middling prospects.
There D isn’t great but there fine and young, personally not to worried about them.


4.) 05 Mar 2021 18:41:11
Oilers went on a tear before the 3 leafs games where they obviously fell apart (not to say the leafs didn’t also play well, but Oilers had their chances too and just didn’t finish) and then the leafs went and lost to Vancouver, who (sorry) Edmonton is obv better than this year.
So try and do the math on that. 🤷🏼‍♂️

While the leafs played well I really think the Oilers also just had a string of wildly sh*tty games and are still in a fine position overall. It’s not time to tear the lineup apart. I am in support of Bear or Jones moved for a scoring winger, however. And it sure would be nice if Lagesson would return soon.


5.) 06 Mar 2021 01:40:16
I could see Edmonton getting in on the Bernier trade sweepstakes if those goalies don’t work.


 

 

03 Mar 2021 13:06:20
Oilers Rumors .....

Read some rumors and wanted to see what people thought and what it would take for the trades to work.

Rumor #1 - Rakell

Rumor #2 - Price

What are your thoughts??

oil10

1.) 03 Mar 2021 15:50:07
Neal and Koskinen for Price. No clue if he has value but 10.5M for 5 and a half seasons is crazy. Montreal probably needs to add something for someone to take that risk.


2.) 04 Mar 2021 18:05:43
If I’m Edmonton I wouldn’t touch price he’s and aging player on the back side of his career but rackell for Chaisson and a 1st.


 

 

29 Jan 2021 17:31:23
Oilers need a big shake up!!
Too many of the same players and all small.

Needs are #1 Goalie, a #1 D-man and more grit (bigger players).

Players to trade;
RNH+ for a top Pair D-man

Nurse, Larsson, Chiasson, JJ for grittier players (bigger 3C) and a Goalie.

**What players are available and who do you think the Oilers could get ??

oil10

1.) 29 Jan 2021 17:52:46
I think Oilers should keep Nuge and Nurse but I do agree with the goalie part. Chiasson is okay, Larsson has been awful.


2.) 29 Jan 2021 19:50:01
I would be gauging CBJs interest in RNH and see what could be possible regarding a trade involving him for Jones or Werenski. I have a feeling it would be RNH and a 1st+ and hell yes would I accept that. Oilers are in desperation mode, they need a BIG move right now.


3.) 30 Jan 2021 01:19:09
@chirp I don’t think CLB would trade Werenski or Jones. Their blue line doesn’t look as good as it did. I can’t see Columbus having the right pieces to send back to EDM


4.) 30 Jan 2021 01:33:40
RNH and a first only starts the convo Chirp. Jones is worth just as much as Victor Herman, I’d say he could fetch the equivalent of 3 top 10 pick. So like let’s say :

Edm:RNH, Broberg, Yamamoto

Clb:Jones

I know that a lot to give but even then I’m not sure Jarmoo does it for Jones, but he should for Werenski. Broberg is not a guarantee.


5.) 09 Feb 2021 14:36:02
As a fellow Oilers fan, I think you’re off on some of your assessment there.


6.) 09 Feb 2021 14:36:30
Lmao. Way too much for Jones. He’s so overratted now.


 

 

 

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28 Jul 2022 23:38:02
MyBad - I don't think you read the post at all . Buffalo isn't even apart of it . LMAO!

Oilers have Carter Savoie and Dmitri Samorukov in their system.

You got the wrong Savoie in mind . and Buffalo wasn't even mentioned! LOL.

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24 Feb 2022 22:15:19
Ebsolutely ; I know it isn't ideal to trade a 1st but the Oilers NEED a Goalie. They have needed one for many years.

So IMO, they need to move the 1st to get better in net. They need the playoff experience to help the players on the team grow. So giving up the 1st to get a Goalie that isn't a rental and giving the team playoff experience is totally worth moving it.

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17 Feb 2022 16:12:03
Holland did say that he didn't want to trade the 1st for a rental, so both Varlamov and Mayfield have another year left on their contracts.

It would definitely fill 2 spots on the team that needs to get better. Koskinen needs to go (fine back-up but Oilers need to move on from him) and Smith can't stay healthy this yr (too risky going into the playoffs) .

Also, a 3rd-D pair of Niemeläinen and Mayfield would be great!

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15 Dec 2021 23:54:39
Update: Just seen that Anderson is expected to miss 8 weeks with his injury.

Edit .
EDM; Chiarot ($1M retained), Allen, 2022 3rd
MTL: 2022 1st, Ryan, Benson.

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23 Jul 2021 18:47:16
Damn!
Ristolainen was just traded to the Flyers.

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01 Apr 2021 19:43:18
Ya they are not so called small is size but they are not gritty or power forwards. McD and Drai are strong on the puck and that's great. I do like Yamo cause he throws hits but he also gets tossed around a lot. And I agree about Nurse but he doesn't use it like he should. And Yes Bear is good too . but your missing my point. There is just too many of those plays.

Bear, Barrie, Russell, 3 D-men that are small. Then add Nurse who doesn't use his strength enough and Lagesson who is still learning the NHL. There needs to be a mixture of grit and size. So they don't get pushed around in front of our net.

I just feel that there needs to be more size so they don't get beat in battles and can score those grease goals. We have the top 2 players in the NHL so they have the skill but just lacking in the grit and size.

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01 Apr 2021 17:05:22
Okay wait, was it a late hit . Yes.
Was it a hit to the head . No. If you watch it in slo-mo you can see that it is a shoulder hit but his follow though from the hit caused his arms to get higher. But still not a head hit!

No where near as bad as Ovechkins groin spear. And he got no suspension!

"Ovechkin avoids suspension for spearing Frederic in groin"
He was only fined $5,000 . and that was very dirty.

But we all should be able to agree on one thing . the Department of Player Safety is a joke!

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