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08 Feb 2022 00:48:42
to Winnipeg
Vitali Kravtsov
Brett Berard
to NY Rangers
Paul Stastny
Josh Morrissey
Both prospects are middling guys with good NHL chances. Stastny is a rental, but Morrissey is a long-term guy with both good results, a relationship with Trouba, and admittedly a contract that he has not been performing up to recently but could be a steal should he get back on track. This would be a gamble for the Rangers but they would not be parting with their most prized prospects, and the potential reward is a long-term, 1st round pick defenseman who has performed well in the past that would be making a reasonable (at the time of signing and hopefully, for whoever has him, later in his career) 6.25M until 2028.
1.) 08 Feb 2022 01:49:03
That is really awful for Winnipeg. Kravtsov is worthless, he's playing in Russia and is a malcontent and Berard is an unneeded LW prospect.
I don't think the Jets would move Stastny alone for that.
2.) 08 Feb 2022 01:55:30
Very generous to Nyr.
3.) 08 Feb 2022 02:47:23
Not a chance from Winnipeg. Morrissey is too important to the Jets.
4.) 08 Feb 2022 02:58:23
I can't see Jets moving Morrissey, especially for that. He has not been as good as he was a couple years ago, but he's capable of big rebound. If Jets were to move this guy, it would be in a bigger package, to bring someone on to replace him. Maybe him and parts for Chycryn would be good for Winnipeg.
5.) 08 Feb 2022 14:37:15
Sosa, I think that if the Jets do look at adding a defenseman it would be an RHD. The Jets have enough left side depth in-house, so they might as well give those guys a chance first.
6.) 08 Feb 2022 15:41:50
Morrissey is much better than the offer from the Rangers. The Jets have better prospects than these two being offered.
7.) 08 Feb 2022 21:39:19
for what it's worth, Morrissey has been playing worth half his deal for several years now (according to advanced stats, so it depends on how much you trust those models) . It's looking like a bad deal, but from the looks of it a lot of people don't realize it yet.
8.) 08 Feb 2022 23:54:46
I trust Island Jet on all things Winnipeg ðŸ‘.
9.) 09 Feb 2022 15:34:38
I wouldn't. He kept insisting Laine was so much better than PLD. I bet he'd say the opposite now.
10.) 09 Feb 2022 17:18:06
I never said PLD was better than Laine but the Jets would miss his scoring so get your facts straight. Now the Jets need a coach that can get the most out of this team.
11.) 09 Feb 2022 17:22:31
I probably would have chosen Laine over PLD as well. Dubois has rewarded Winnipeg's faith in him this year 100%.
I give big kudos to Kevin Cheveldayof. Winnipeg has great fans and ownership, but it probably has the biggest challenge of any market in recruiting free agents. I don't mean that disrespectfully either. Climate is a factor, and with teams in the sun belt or in better tax jurisdictions, this is a challenge for all CDN teams. Despite this, Chevy builds a competitive team regardless.
12.) 09 Feb 2022 19:16:07
@IslandJet ok you kept saying Laine was worth much more than just PLD. Same thing, different pile.
13.) 09 Feb 2022 22:58:35
I never said that as well, so stop being so untruthful. Keep making up stories that try to support your comments.
14.) 10 Feb 2022 07:00:23
Oh please, give it a rest. You repeatedly insisted Laine Laine would get a lot more than just PLD.
25 Jan 2022 01:03:06
to Minnesota
Hertl
to San Jose
Rask
1st.
24 Jan 2022 13:48:16
to Minnesota
Giroux
to Philadelphia
Rask
Beckman
1st
Giroux is aging but still nearly point-a-game this year, and at the end of his deal. The Wild will likely have a late 1st, so Beckman is a decent prospect to get the value right.
1.) 24 Jan 2022 21:58:54
He’s a UfA so I think he could be gotten for even less.
30 Sep 2021 02:38:27
to New Jersey
Laine
to Columbus
Foote
3rd.
1.) 30 Sep 2021 13:53:26
Not even close for Laine.
2.) 30 Sep 2021 14:52:32
What nut upvoted this?
3.) 01 Oct 2021 09:33:42
My left one @MoxNix.
4.) 01 Oct 2021 16:12:50
That left nut probably gets you Kerfoot from Toronto though I think they'd prefer a bag of pucks.
5.) 03 Oct 2021 15:24:25
@NotACasual
Laine is not nearly as valuable as he used to be-- his advanced stats are atrocious, as is the eye test. He is what people used to say Ovechkin was: a goal machine that barely does anything else. The goal machine part is pretty important, but with only one year on his deal how much more does he get?
that being said, a stupid team would give up a fortune for what people thought he was in 2018.
6.) 03 Oct 2021 22:34:07
Laine isn't the player people thought he was a few years ago but he's still worth more than that.
I'm the one who usually says proposals here are too much for him. This is the first one I say is too little. :)
17 Jun 2021 08:20:22
to Seattle
Eichel
Skinner
to Buffalo
1st 2021 (2nd overall)
1.) 17 Jun 2021 12:38:37
Why package Skinner with Eichel? It just lowers his value a ton.
Eichel >>>> 2nd Overall Selection
Eichel, Skinner >> 2nd Overall Selection.
2.) 17 Jun 2021 13:02:04
Agree with no NottACasual this is a very weak draft. Definitely shouldn’t trade Eichel for a pick in this draft.
3.) 18 Jun 2021 00:44:36
Draft isn’t actually that bad, especially not very weak. Average is more like it. This draft has tons of depth tho, lots of late round steals. Possibly a lot of players that could take longer to develop and Kaprizov style.
4.) 19 Jun 2021 14:49:18
I can't see Seattle having anything to do with Jeff Skinner and his albatross of a contract. $9 mil per year running into 2027.
5.) 22 Jun 2021 21:10:41
Jack Eichel is not getting traded for a draft pick. Eichel and skinner to Seattle is actually not a bad idea. 1) Skinner played with Eichel 2 years ago and had 40 goals. Ralph Krueger played him on the third line and killing penalties.
1.) The Sabres get the second pick and draft a center.
2.) The Sabres get 3-4 picks from Kraken expansion list.
3.) The Kraken get 2 players players with name recognition that make them competitive. It also helps them reach salary cap floor.
4.) Jack Eichel is not in the East. Plays 4 times a year against McDavid.
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09 Mar 2019 16:10:46
Vegas is going to be over 2 million over the cap next season due to the raises to tuch, stone, schmidt and fleury. there is also an additional undetermined amount due to Karlsson, so that'll add several million more
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1.) 09 Mar 2019 17:47:59
Is that including the 8 on injured players?
02 Jan 2018 03:48:33
The Golden Knights have a lot of UFAs. Some they will keep but others will probably be worth more to them traded. They also have 8M in cap space, which is tricky, for various reasons. Also important is the fact I expect them to try and make a playoff run, because of course.
Main issue is Marchessault. He's a great player on the team but is making 750k which is ludicrous for a player who is likely to score 30 goals again. I'd put his value at 5-6M, so that lowers Vegas' cap room in the future, but for this year they will be ok. William Karlsson also is owed a decent amount of money, so they will likely be looking to let some free agents go (they can free up 13.M in Clayton Stoner, David Clarkson and Mikhail Grabovski, and if they keep Luca Sbisa it probably won't be for 3.6M either) . Basically, the cap is friendly to them, so they can afford to use the 8M they have with little concern.
My main thought is that their defense, while capable, is fairly undermanned. The Penguins have shown that it's not an absolute necessity, but they still have had Kris Letang, which continues the trend that has persisted for a good while now of having at least one star defenseman. The Golden knights will have Shea Theodore in that role one day, but for now they need someone who can hold down the fort on the back end who is not the goaltender (they have had very above average goaltending, which may have helped cover up ay weakness in the defensive core) . There are teams with good star defensemen they could trade, which is abnormal but is true (the Coyotes are not going to trade OEL to the Knights though, I'm sorry) . There is one trading partner in particular that I think is especially exciting.
to Carolina
Alex Tuch
Oscar Dansk
mid-round pick
to Vegas
Justin Faulk
There is a significant surplus of goaltenders in Vegas, both as prospects and NHL-regulars, so Dansk becomes expendable (and valuable after his showing during the injury wave) . Tuch is also young and has shown a scoring knack, but is not integral to the success of Vegas. I also think this move would factor into other trades by vegas in which they exchange the spare defensemen for forwards, further mitigating this loss.
Faulk is an all-star defenseman, but Carolina has an abundance of young defensemen who could benefit greatly from his ice time. Carolina is still a bubble team, and may benefit from growing the youth. Dansk will get decent playing time, unless Bill Peters decides he hates him like he did with Eddie Lack and many other goalies.
1.) 02 Jan 2018 06:21:13
Gotta be at least a 1st added IMO. Doesn’t matter though because they just gave Faulk the C so I’m assuming he won’t be traded.
12 May 2016 00:37:01
to Dallas
Vasilevsky
to Tampa Bay
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Dallas is the perfect place for Vasilevsky, but there's nothing that Tampa really needs in return. Vaslievsky's value is quite high, but i just don't know what Tampa would want for him
Suggestions?
1.) 12 May 2016 01:38:16
Ummmmmmmmm i think this is the dumbest post ever, the only time you see only one team getting a player or pick is when they hire a coach/ GM and vasevsky is a solid prospect they would trade bishop Before him.
2.) 12 May 2016 02:31:46
Seguin or benn then Tampa adds but not going to happen.
3.) 12 May 2016 02:37:27
Tyler seguin and Jamie Benn 50% retained each.
4.) 12 May 2016 02:41:09
Lol this is a good one.
5.) 12 May 2016 03:45:44
I totally miss read that after my bad anyway probably a 1st round pick plus some thing else.
6.) 12 May 2016 07:16:08
Klingberg for Vasilevsky+… I don't know but first Dallas would have to trade a high paid average at best goalie.
08 Feb 2022 21:39:19
for what it's worth, Morrissey has been playing worth half his deal for several years now (according to advanced stats, so it depends on how much you trust those models) . It's looking like a bad deal, but from the looks of it a lot of people don't realize it yet.
24 Jan 2022 15:26:58
Kraken probably don't do this because Eberle is someone they seem to want to build around, and while Appleton hasn't broken through the way the Jets and Kraken both have wanted him to, he's still a promising player that is comparable to Dube in value. The 1st is nice but they may not want this deal.
If they don't actually care much for the establishment of core players and just want to rebuild, they may view this trade as a steal for that pick.
Flames also don't do this-- even though I don't think the Kraken do this, in terms of value the Flames are giving up more. If they're trading their first round pick, they may want to be adding a piece rather than just swapping players in similar roles (neither of which is a significant improvement, and could even be a loss of value given Eberle's age and Appleton's lack of scoring)
22 Oct 2021 20:06:10
to be honest this is one of the better proposals I've seen. Critiques about Eichel also apply to Tarasenko to a lesser extent.
03 Oct 2021 15:24:25
@NotACasual
Laine is not nearly as valuable as he used to be-- his advanced stats are atrocious, as is the eye test. He is what people used to say Ovechkin was: a goal machine that barely does anything else. The goal machine part is pretty important, but with only one year on his deal how much more does he get?
that being said, a stupid team would give up a fortune for what people thought he was in 2018.
31 May 2021 18:21:36
@websjac Neal has 2, Bob has 5. I figured he could actually provide some value compared to what neal has left, so if the cap hit isn't really different it's worth it during some mcdraisaitl prime years.
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