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20 Aug 2019 11:17:39
#1
Calgary Flames - T.J Brodie, Ty Parsons, Dillon Dube & 1st-Round Draft Pick

New Jersey Devils - Taylor Hall

(Devils continue their strong rebuild and acquire a top 4 defencemen, a solid former memorial cup champion goalie prospect, a solid skilled center & first round draft pick)

#2
Calgary Flames - Mikael Backlund

Anaheim Ducks - Rickard Rakell

(Ducks acquire a good second line center who could be very useful on their pk, and flames acquire a lw who could play rw due to being right handed, similar in point totals)

#3
Calgary Flames - Michael Frolik

Columbus Blue Jackets - 2nd-Round Draft Pick

(Jackets acquire a top 6 rw who would be a nice fit on the pk and can give them more speed, flames shed cap)


The losing Frolik, Brodie would give them the cap space to resign Hall



Johnny Gaudreau - Sean Monahan - Rickard Rakell

Taylor Hall - Elias Lindholm - Matthew Tkachuk

Milan Lucic - Sam Bennett - Mark Jankowski

Andrew Mangiapane - Derek Ryan - Austin Czarnik


Mark Giordano - Rasmus Andersson

Noah Hanifin - Travis Hamonic

Oliver Kylington - Rinat Valiev

20 Aug 2019 13:36:26
Taylor Hall is going to market. That's a lot to give up, especially for a guy on an expiring deal.

20 Aug 2019 13:40:34
No from Anaheim. Rakell is one of their best players and Backlund fits perfectly with calgary.

20 Aug 2019 13:50:50
Easy no's for all teams not named Calgary.

19 Aug 2019 18:31:47
If Hall tells the Devils he wants to win a cup and refuses to re-sign:

Devils: Hall
Jets: Laine, 2020 1st (if Hall re-signs)

Jets can afford to re-sign Hall since trading away Trouba and gives them the final piece on offense

19 Aug 2019 19:25:01
I mean, does this really make sense for Winnipeg?
Hall is going to ask for around 12M AAV.
Winnipeg still needs to pay Roslovic and Kyle Connor this year and then Josh Morrissey the following year.

I love Hall, but I wouldn't give up Laine not knowing that he'd resign with my team.

19 Aug 2019 19:31:44
Hall won't resign in wpg so won't happen.

19 Aug 2019 20:02:46
Even if Hall wanted to resign in Winnipeg he would want way too much money and term. I would rather pay a 21 year old Laine big money and term then a 28 year old in November, Hall who is coming off a serious injury.

20 Aug 2019 00:16:00
Winnipeg would say no for all the reasons listed above.

17 Aug 2019 16:59:32
EDM:Puljujarvi,3rd2020

NJ:Woods

18 Aug 2019 00:46:59
As a devils fan I can see it. Wood is a good goal scorer and has the size and speed that teams love. He’s definitely more valuable than pool party but I think the 3rd makes up for it nicely. Deal.

07 Aug 2019 12:27:40
Buffalo: Ristolainen
Nashville: Turris + 2nd
or
Buffalo: ristolainen
NJD: Zacha
or
Buffalo: Ristolainen
Montreal: Danault + 3rd

Buffalo then signs Jake Gardiner.

07 Aug 2019 14:59:25
1. Nobody should trade for Kyle Turris right now. The fact that he scored only 23P in 55 games and has 5 more years left at 6 AAV should scare teams away.
Buffalo loses the first trade. Also, where would Turris even play? Mittelstadt is pretty much locked for the 2nd line centre. Evan Rodriguez is a lock for the third line. The 2nd round pick doesn't help them whatsoever as they are trying to get good right now. If they trade for Turris, they would be 500k over the salary cap.

2. Buffalo loses the second trade by a lot. Say what you want, Pavel Zacha is a bust. Never played a full season and never scored more than 25 points. He is a solid third liner right now. Nothing more. Ristolainen for a 3rd liner? Come on now.

3. Don't see why Montreal does this tbh. Value might be close, but there is very little reason for Montreal. Their right side is locked up with Shea Weber (7.8x7yrs) and Jeff Petry (5.5x2yrs) .

Also, explain to me with what salary cap is Buffalo going to sign Jake Gardiner? As of right now, they literally have 0 in cap space left. Some of their players' bonuses will mean that they will need like 2M in cap space left over.

08 Aug 2019 00:12:28
As much as I like Danault, theyres no way he gets a stud RHD in his prime who has multiple 40 point s season already.

08 Aug 2019 02:58:21
Is it Turris, or is it the team and how they play him? Turris’s atoi is way down compared to what it was when he was in Ottawa. He’s not being used in nearly the same way. Number of face offs is way down, despite being over 50% win. He’s getting less offensive zone starts and power play time. Nashville didn’t use him as much as Ottawa did. And when they did use him, they didn’t use him in a way that would get the most out of him. On top of that, the whole injury thing didn’t help.

08 Aug 2019 15:01:45
@HockeyFanatic
Turris got his chance to play on the top 6 and in most of other situations early in the year. He failed to impress and then his ATOI started to fall. If he has any sort of good value, he would have made do with the time of ice he did have, and the only way to get more time on the ice is to score which he failed to do even though he was still on the PP.

Even though he didn't get used as much, he should have scored with the opportunities he was given. His injury has nothing to do with this as he failed to be relevant in the 50+ games he was healthy.

08 Aug 2019 18:43:33
I don’t think Buffalo even needs Gardiner. They have a lot of D signed. Bogo, Dahlin, Collin Miller, McCabe, Scandella, Montour, Hunwick, and Jokiharju and Risto. That’s 9 pretty capable NHL D men. They can trade Riso for F help if I was them. Or picks or something.

14 Aug 2019 14:55:43
Gardiner is usless in his own end .

30 Jul 2019 05:05:20
Calgary

T. Zajac
M. McLeod
D. Severson
1st round pick in 2021
1st round pick in 2022

New Jersey

M. Tkachuk

Shut me down if need be, but McLeod would get a legit chance to play in Calgary, Zajac is getting up there plus Jersey is packed tight with centermen. Severson could probably be a top 2 dman in Calgary. The 2 1st round picks may be late 20s early 30th pick. With Tkachuk on an already better team would not only make the devils a force to be wreckened with to be a contender for multiple deep playoff runs but could probably even get Taylor Hall signed. Think about it realistically before you criticize

30 Jul 2019 07:11:25
Isn’t McLeod that guy that got addicted to playing fortnite?
Also, if Calgary gives up Tkachuk it won’t be for a cap dump and high draft picks. Their stanley cup window is now.
Calgary already has insane centre depth.
Lindholm, Monahan, Bennett, Jankowski and Backlund.
All of those guys can play centre.
Zajac is the worst one on that list and will get sent to the AHL.

So Tkachuk for Severson, 2 AHL players for Calgary and draft picks that they don’t need.

30 Jul 2019 07:17:17
Must be a real NHL GM. Right on.

30 Jul 2019 11:25:09
Every team needs or wants Draft picks. We're not trading hockey cards bro. And who wouldn't want 2 first round picks. Are you Peter Chiarelle?

30 Jul 2019 11:37:07
Besides Tkachuk isn't even resigned yet and Calgary has just over 4.6 million and I doubt a player like Tkachuk is going to sign a 1 or 2 year deal worth 2.5 a year when Jersey has over 12 million and could offer more money and more term. Go ahead and hope he signs or Calgary doesn't lose a 21 yo left winger for nothing. Then those 2 draft picks would be a lost opportunity, especially 2 1st rounders and a couple AHL players as you say. Good Luck with that.

30 Jul 2019 11:50:11
But devils you lost all your credibil WHen you said severson would be top 2 in Calgary.

30 Jul 2019 12:08:41
We didn't say he would. What we said was he could probably be a top 2 dman. Put him in net for all it's worth. I can almost guarantee if an offer sheet went toward Tkachuk it's going to be an offer he couldn't refuse and you lose him for nil. Or you can always match the offer sheet and rip your whole team apart to keep him. He's a great player whose going to want to win and win early in his career. You could sign him on a bridge deal and hope that you win now because if you don't win, he's gone and Treviling is either fired or scratching his head in worry and kicking himself in the Frank's and Beans for not taking an offer that included 2 first rounders and a couple youngsters who probably only need a change of scenery and a better opportunity to flourish in the NHL.

30 Jul 2019 14:46:27
Calgary is not trading him. There window is now also so not trading one of there best players and wouldn't be losing him for nothing If they cant. Its 3 1sts if someone tries to sign him cause he gets 8mil or more . Plan is to trade Brodie. Then trade or buyout stone. They'll have plenty of room after that gets done.

30 Jul 2019 14:50:26
One problem I see is if the flames can't afford tkachuk as you say then how do they afford zajac and severson?

30 Jul 2019 14:52:50
I don't think Calgary would do this, but not sure if NJD could afford to do this either. Next year you need to sigh not just Hall, but Hischier as well - he needs a new deal for the 20-21 season.
After that you Need Gusev the year after for the 21-22 season (he might be really good if his production from the KHL transfers over) .
Then the following year you have Jack Hugues. I think with all these guys you might be in cap trouble sooner than you think.
I think NJD should stick with what they have put together (which looks really good right now) and try to resign their own guys in the future.
I don't think you really need Tkachuck at this time, but try to go for the offer sheet and get him. Might be more than two first round picks. Just don't be surprised if Calgary does the same to Jack Hughes.

30 Jul 2019 22:45:53
Dream on Devils. Wow. Terrible proposal for Calgary. Treliving might be an idiot after the Lucic deal but in no way does he even entertain this.

30 Jul 2019 23:09:45
Devils, do you have multiple personalities or something? Why you keep referring to yourself as we? You have a buddy help you write this? Honest question, not trying to be rude.

31 Jul 2019 00:23:02
Calgary isn't trading Tkachuk!
Only way that happens is someone like Marner is coming back and if it's Marner Flames would have to add.

31 Jul 2019 00:26:07
Y’all serious huh?
Calgary trades 1 of their best players with insane potential for 2 AHL players, a right side defenceman WHICH THEY DON’T NEED! they have Brodie, Hamonic, Stone, Andersson on the right side and 2 draft picks when their Stanley Cup window is now.

Calgary gets nothing out of this.

31 Jul 2019 00:25:07
Calgary would probably throw in Guadreau after the Lucic Trade. But no really Calgary probably takes this for sure that’s a lot close to what Lindros got. Honestly I’d say if I didn’t hate Severson and it was someone like Noah Dobson I’d take that for Marner all day.

31 Jul 2019 01:34:16
This devils guy is a complete joke. I seen quantity but no quality and Flames will sign Tkachuk they have 3 options. Buyout stone, trade brodie, trade frolik. Youve lost all credibility in your short time here. Thanks try again

31 Jul 2019 05:41:09
A 40 point 25 year old RD, a recent 12 OA and two first isn’t quality? Not the type of trade Calgary makes I’m thinking but it’s not just scraps.

31 Jul 2019 14:39:16
I would consider this for Calgary, but it just doesn't seem to strike a need. The only reason to take cheaper players is to sign tkachuk.

From NJ it seems like trade for tkachuk to let hall go at trade deadline?

31 Jul 2019 16:47:15
9/ 13 forwards can play center on Calgary according to cap friendly.

01 Aug 2019 00:31:25
If tkachuk is going to NJ, Hall is forsure thr main piece and probably the only piece coming back

01 Aug 2019 14:38:04
You would need more than Hall. he is a UFA at the end of the season.

26 Jul 2019 21:22:21
#1
To Rangers :
Kris Russell (2 years/ 4M AAV)
2nd-Round Draft Pick in 2020

To Oilers :
Vladislav Namestnikov (1 year/ 4M AAV)

#2
To Devils :
Jesse Puljujarvi (RFA)
Matt Benning (1 year/ 1.9M AAV)
3rd-Round Draft Pick in 2020

To Oilers :
Damon Severson (4 years/ 4.16M AAV)



Draisaitl - McDavid - Neal

Namestnikov - Nugent-Hopkins - Chiasson

Nygard - Granlund - Khaira

Jurco - Gagner - Archibald


Klefbom - Larsson

Nurse - Severson

Bear - Persson.

22 Jul 2019 23:00:41
Buffalo Trades
Sheary
Sobotka
Scandella

New Jersey Trades
Zajac

Thoughts ?

23 Jul 2019 02:49:16
Why would Buffalo do this. Zajac was a decent player, however is well on his way down hill.
Although the Buffalo package, the players aren't stars. they are depth. ya need that .

18 Jul 2019 01:50:47
To NJ:
Marner, Ceci, Petan, Sparks
To Leafs:
Hall, Severson

18 Jul 2019 10:09:56
Your username says it all. Add Lilijegreen from Leafs and take out Sparks.

18 Jul 2019 12:29:01
Hall has very little value would rather do a mark stone like package. UFA’s also get way more money he’s probably looking for 13+ million on his next contract. This is a huge no from leafs 1 season of Hall and a garbage defenceman ( not really but I’d rather see him bought out then play on the leafs I do not like him. )

Try Nico Hischer++ for Marner.

18 Jul 2019 12:53:06
It's a big no from Toronto. But VB, Hall still has a ton of value. The reason it's a no is because of age and the fact that Hall is a FA in one year. You don't give up Marner when your main piece coming back is a player with one year left.

18 Jul 2019 16:15:43
I’ll rephrase-Hall has low value in proportion to his talent/ impact to the game considering his lack of term control. Leafs could probably get him for something like

Sandin, Bracco And a 1st at the deadline if New Jersey is out of a playoff spot by the deadline and Hall won’t resign. Same value as Mark stone imo but that’s a better package then what stone got.

15 Jul 2019 21:58:15
To New Jersey: Jost, 1st 2020, Kamenev and 1st 2021 if Hall resign

To Colorado : Hall

Colorado will be competitive to win the cup and New Jersey will not lose Hall for nothing.

15 Jul 2019 22:16:47
I think New Jersey is trying to make the playoffs this year I doubt they trade hall unless they are out of it at the deadline.

14 Jul 2019 13:41:53
Toronto: Nylander

New Jersey:Woods,2rd2019

14 Jul 2019 14:06:16
Such an underpayment like wow lool

14 Jul 2019 14:31:56
DetroitMantha will then reply with Nylander is a 60 point player and is overpaid. What do you expect from a Canadians fan who keeps making Toronto proposals lol.

14 Jul 2019 16:30:42
Nylander IS a 60 point player and overpaid xD.

14 Jul 2019 16:55:45
IF Nylander hits 60 points or more this season I don’t think he can be considered all that overpaid. But after how brutal he was last year whether or not he hits sixty seems to be the question mark. You can’t have it both ways though.

14 Jul 2019 17:01:57
Nylander is a 60 point player as far as we know right now. I don’t think he’s overpaid. Mantha and Vertius are the two biggest leaf fans on this site.

14 Jul 2019 17:27:06
Saying Nylander is a 60 point player is like saying Svechnikov is a 40 point player.

14 Jul 2019 20:00:33
Vbb’s there’s no stats to go off other than the 3 years he’s played. Is he as bad as he was last year, no way. Most players would suffer from holding out and missing training camp. Then there’s the pressure of living up to your contract when you return. I think he’ll be back to a 60 pt player. Is he a 90 pt player like you think, I doubt it. I really hope Nylander proves me wrong.

14 Jul 2019 20:33:44
Nylander is definitely a 60pnt player. And to be honest, what is the going rate on a 60 point player, its roughly about 6m so he's only slightly overpaid. But he has the potential to hit 70points maybe more with a if matthews stays healthy and puts up that insane pace he started on last season.

27 Jun 2019 20:59:44
New Jersey Hall
Toronto. Marner

27 Jun 2019 22:06:38
Gonna have to add Hughes and a couple firsts. Marner is the most valuable player in the league according to Vb and can easily get 2 stars from any team xD.

27 Jun 2019 22:25:11
1st of all I never said that. But why would Toronto want a pending UFA that’s way older ( 5 years ) . Marner is atleast equal to him talent wise anyway. NJ aren’t good trading partners with TO. Hall for Nylander maybe but then Hall would just leave at the end of the season.

28 Jun 2019 00:13:29
Marner is worth more than Hall.

28 Jun 2019 01:02:50
If hall signs an extension add part of the trade, the add wouldn't need to be big

Hall extended 5 years and severson for marner and zaitsev?

28 Jun 2019 04:51:12
Honestly I’d take Zaitsev over Severson. Severson is almost on Lucic level bad decent on PP but is ECHL 5 on 5.

28 Jun 2019 07:18:51
Vbb you over exaggerate alot. Severson ain't close to lucic and lucic ain't that bad

28 Jun 2019 12:53:55
Maybe I’m exaggerating the Lucic comparison but name a worse player then Lucic and Severson is pretty bad I’d say him and the Hall Injury were the two biggest reasons the devils missed the playoffs.

28 Jun 2019 13:50:18
Flat out not true, coming from a Devils fan. He had 40 points and by the end of the year was playing fine in all situations. Devils if you recall have a good PK every year. He’s also a major asset on the power play and at evens.

28 Jun 2019 14:22:14
If leafs could've sign hall before the trade to a decent contract I would pull the trigger leafs have rw depth and are weak on the left side.

28 Jun 2019 16:42:27
Or the leafs can just trade Marner then sign Hall as a UFA what makes you think he’ll demand less then Marner.

29 Jun 2019 08:02:22
Leafs rent Hall for a year. get something good back today. Jersey gets 4 firsts when Marner gets his RFA offer. Leafs are all in now. NJ rebuilding. could actually work.

25 Jun 2019 20:27:55
Pittsburgh Penguins:

Phil Kessel


New Jersey Devils:

Pavel Zacha

Michael McLeod

1st Round Pick 2020

Conditional 2nd Rounder if Devils make Playoffs


Hall - Hischier - Kessel

Palmieri - Hughes - Lee (6.8 mil)

Bratt - Johansson (6.0 mil) - Boqvist

Wood - Boyle (2.7 mil) - Coleman


Subban - Vatanen

Severson - Butcher

Smith - Beaulieu (1.8 mil)


Greene and Zajac trade.

26 Jun 2019 10:09:40
I'd think pitt would have to add a prospect or pick, a bit much from NJD.

25 Jun 2019 07:49:59
San Jose Sharks:

Evander Kane


New Jersey Devils:

Pavel Zacha

Michael McLeod

1st Round Pick 2020


Then sign:

Anders Lee (7 mil 6 years)

Marcus Johansson (6 mil 4 years)


Top 9:

Hall - Hischier - Kane

Palmieri - Hughes - Lee

Bratt - Johansson - Boqvist.

25 Jun 2019 13:46:41
As much as I wish the sharks could get rid of that Kane contract, the sharks are in no position to sell players and are clearly trying to win now.

25 Jun 2019 04:25:57
NJD- vatanen 3rd rounder

LA-toffoli, macdermid

;NJ gets some size and a skilled RW LA gets a fast young D man and a pick

(Just wanted to do this) top 6:
Hall-Hughes-toffoli
Bratt-Hischier-palmieri

25 Jun 2019 13:19:13
Vatanen won’t be moved if anyone it’ll be Severson.

24 Jun 2019 19:59:26
New Jersey Devils:

Pavel Zacha

1st Round Pick 2020

Michael McLeod

2nd Round Pick 2020


San Jose Sharks

Evander Kane

6th Round Pick 2020



Hall - Hischier - Palmieri

Kane - Hughes - Lee (sign)

Bratt - Johansson (sign) - Boqvist

Wood - Coleman - Hayden


Subban - Vatanen

Severson - Butcher

Smith - Greene


Of course the roster is somerhing like a dream, but i think it is real.

24 Jun 2019 20:36:10
Honestly, I feel like Kane’s contract is a bit of a hindrance. I’m not saying he has negative value, not at all, but I feel like a 1st, 2nd and McLeod might be a bit much.

24 Jun 2019 17:52:44
Devils: Michael McLeod, Sami Vatanen, 2021 2nd (if Vatanen is on team in April 2020 but does not re-sign)

Ducks: Cam Fowler

Gives Ducks a familiar face who is also a pending UFA and talented trade chip if they continue shipping players out in the rebuild. Also a RD to play with Lindholm. Gives Devils an LD for the top-4

Hall - Hischier - Palmieri
Bratt - Hughes - UFA (Donskoi/Connolly/Pavelski/Lee)
Zacha - Zajac - Coleman
Wood - UFA/Rooney - Hayden

Fowler - Subban
Smith - Severson
Greene - Butcher

Schneider
Blackwood

24 Jun 2019 20:05:03
Sami Vatanen>Fowler.

23 Jun 2019 22:18:08
In my last post I showed how the leafs could potentially fit Marner in and improve their defence. But if the leafs decide to let Marner go this is what I'd like to see.

Obviously Marner is extremely valuable and is a top 5 U23 player in the game. 94 points as a 22 year old. Kucherov didn't come close to that at his 22 year old season there is no reason to believe by the time he's 25 he won't be as good as Kucherov I personally believe he'll be better and I'm sure I'm not the only one. It'll take a lot to pry him away.

Teams I'd match an offer sheet that have the cap space are- New Jersey, Florida, Montreal, Islanders And Colorado

Teams I'd take the compensation of 4 1st round picks from- Arizona, Columbus, Detroit and Ottawa

A trade I'd personally take

Toronto- Mitch Marner And Nikita Zaitsev

New York- Noah Dobson, Joshua Ho Sang, Ryan Pulock and 1st 2020

This trade drastically improves the leafs defence and cap situation while New York gets a star who will have multiple 100 point seasons.

24 Jun 2019 00:05:11
Vbbb, do you really like Ho Sang that much, that you would want him as part of a deal for Marner?

If the Islanders know you’re trading Marner because you can’t afford him, I doubt you’d get all 4 of those pieces. I think the max you would get is 2 of the 4. Considering the Islanders also have to pay Marner 11 million. You would also need to keep Zaitsev as I don’t think the Islanders would take on that contract knowing what they’ll have to pay Marner.

If you want to say the Islanders are dealing in good faith and just really want Marner, I think the max you would get is 3 of the 4 pieces. I just don’t see the Islanders giving up both Pullock and Dobson in the same deal and you would need to still keep Zaitsev.

24 Jun 2019 01:31:59
I'd say no from Isles.

24 Jun 2019 02:32:01
Of the team's you would let Marner sign an offersheet with, I don't think any of them will submit one because they will be lottery picks ( Columbus is the only one who might take that risk)

Also, Marner has to sign the offersheet to go to those teams. He may want nothing to do with Sens, Jackets, Coyotes or Wings.

In terms of that trade, I don't think Isles do it because Defense is still an area they need depth on.

24 Jun 2019 02:34:41
On a Red Wings note, we won't be sending an offer sheet for Marner.

I don't expect us to send an offer sheet at all.

However if we do, we will be targetting Trouba or Point. We need C and D more than a winger.

24 Jun 2019 02:44:56
I wouldn't trade Marner. Would trade Nylander/Matthews before Marner

24 Jun 2019 06:32:49
Alright, I'll sit here and wait for Marner to get 130+ pts by age 25. You're insane, VB. THe age 22 comparison is bs and several people already explained this to you on this website - if you'd listen, you'd know.

24 Jun 2019 13:03:49
Kucherov is amazing but he’s better imo I think he’ll be known as top 3 player in the game when he’s 25 I’m not sure why you don’t see that he’s more dynamic then Mathews it’s really not a controversial statement. Some debut to it I guess but it’s obtainable for him if he dosent score 130 by 3 years into the NHL I’ll apologize.

Also for me Dobson would be the sticking point for me in this trade I’d demand him. I think this trade makes the Islanders a better team.

Also Datsyuk_13 that’s the point if one of those teams are stupid enough to send an offer sheet I would not match.

24 Jun 2019 14:31:06
Marner is a star, no denying that. He also played a minute and a half a game more than Kucherov during their respective age 22 seasons, 5 extra shifts a game, and had a superstar on his line in Tavares while Kucherov had Johnson and Palat. Could Marner be better than Kucherov? Maybe but in my opinion its far from the guarantee you think it is. I don't know how realistic it is to expect someone to get more than the 1.56 ppg Kucherov did this year. They are on a very similar development path but i'm not sure Marner is going to see the same development here on out without really having any extra opportunity to move in to, he's already playing 20 min a game, with PP time and has a superstar center. Not saying he will plateu, but at the same age Kucherov still had room to improve in TOI, linemates, and PP time and took advantage of it.

24 Jun 2019 15:39:51
Also, looks like Kucherov could be 1.5-2M less in cap space which means a lot these days.

24 Jun 2019 15:41:21
Very good points made by jbs32.
Also I 100% agree on Marner being better than Matthews. That's why the AM contract is so bad for TOR. That's the contract Marner should've gotten, if anyone.
"You think he (Marner) will be known as a top 3 player by the age of 25?" Well guess what, Kucherov IS known as a top 3 player at age 25.
We'll see whether that will be the case with Marner, personally, I doubt it. Rather top 20, which is still elite, obv, no one is denying that.

24 Jun 2019 15:52:56
You can't compare marner to kuch they style of play is completely different.

24 Jun 2019 16:29:56
valid points not a lot can be argued aside from Natural growth and Maturity of Marner. Also Marner is also a better defensive player then Kucherov I don’t think I’ve seen Kucherov on the PK before where as Marner is the best PKer on the leafs aside from Hyman. Also the leafs PP this year was trash they have the Talent for a top 3 PP and if the PP were better he could’ve easily hit the 110 mark for points this Season 16 more PP points aren’t unrealistic imo.

Also not comparing their styles just overall impact in hockey Marner is more comparable to Patrick Kane.

24 Jun 2019 16:35:45
Gotta be honest you guys comparing Matthews and his contract to Marner are really doing a disservice to your perceived hockey IQ. Matthews at centre is far more difficult and a far more important position than a winger, and the pay should reflect that. You’re comparing apples to oranges. Might as well compare Marner’s upcoming contract to Freddy Andersen’s as it makes about as much sense.

23 Jun 2019 19:57:49
New Jersey:
Nikita Zaitsev D
Garret Sparks G

Toronto:
MacKenzie Blackwood G
3rd 2021

23 Jun 2019 20:02:40
Yes please.

24 Jun 2019 02:35:45
With the Subban trade, don't the Devils have too many Right Side Dmen and need more quality Left Side?

As a result, I don't think they want Zaitsev.

24 Jun 2019 06:33:13
Is this a Leafs Fans' wet dream?

22 Jun 2019 17:44:00
Confirmed.

New Jersey: P. K Subban

Nashville: Santini, Davies, 2x 2nd Round Pick.

22 Jun 2019 18:05:44
Woah! New Jersey going big. Didn’t believe this when I saw it until it showed up on TV! Wow!

22 Jun 2019 18:43:35
Instant help but in 3 years another team in cap hell.

22 Jun 2019 19:08:12
@islandjet possibly but it won't be because of subban he will be gone by then.

22 Jun 2019 19:22:35
3rd line wingers will be getting payed 7 million in 3 years.

Top players will be getting 15 million +

In 20 years top players will be getting 30 million+.

22 Jun 2019 19:57:19
Didn’t the cap go down this season? Or at least didn’t go up.

22 Jun 2019 20:50:18
They got to do the cba soon so contracts will level out. Wont see a bigger contract than McDavid for a while.

22 Jun 2019 21:42:11
It’s projected to go up 2 million but 3 million lower then originally anticipated.

21 Jun 2019 18:08:43
Toronto and New Jersey make big deal at draft. Then Toronto And Carolina.

NJ: Marner and 3nd (85) pk 2019

TOR: First overall (Hughes) and COLEMAN

CAR: Kadri, Brown and Zaitsev

TOR: Hamilton and Ferland

21 Jun 2019 19:11:19
Obviously a leafs fan. why leafs fans think zaitsev has any value? Basically got to give kadri for any team to take him, maybe for a 5th? Then its brown for Hamilton and a ufa?

21 Jun 2019 19:34:29
“Basically got to give Kadri for any team to take him” a 2C consistent 30 goal guy when in a 2C role who’s in his prime and won’t regress for a couple seasons signed to a steal of a contract at 4.5 million on top of all of this is a top defensive player who works hard every shift and gets into the other teams heads. People may not like that he dives or sticks up for his teammates but at the end of the day he’s very effective. A team like Colorado who’s lacking a 2C would give a lot for him.

21 Jun 2019 19:57:45
I think you took that out of context VBB. I believe he is saying that you need to give Kadri for any team to take Zaitsev.
I don't agree with that, but i believe that was his intention.

21 Jun 2019 20:02:31
Nj wants a centre more than a winger I think.
Also why take Hughes to play 4c?

Maybe trade marner for hall. Work something around that. Hall wants to win and Toronto Is trying to do just that now.

21 Jun 2019 20:21:21
That makes more sense but he’s still very wrong but thank you for clarifying.

21 Jun 2019 23:51:55
Yah I mean Marners trade value wise isn’t bad but the last thing Toronto needs is a Center. NJ might rather have Marner but I’m not sure. I spoke my opinion on Marner many times I think he’s Patrick Kane.

22 Jun 2019 00:52:38
Thanks Turkey, just saying Toronto needs to sweeten the pot for taking zaitsev, saying kadri is a bit much. But saying zaitsev is a good trade piece is an overstatement also. Better than Seabrook as a cheaper option but still an overpaid 5-6 defenseman.

 
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