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25 Jul 2017 04:13:36
To ottawa : Jack eichel

To buffalo : ryan dzingle, logan brown, nick paul, a 1st in 2018, and a 3rd in 2019

Ottawa gets an inexpensive counter to Toronto's Austin Matthews and top end forward assuming he can stay healthy.

Buffalo gets a couple draft pick in case the players don't work out, plus 1 of the fastest players in the league who can slip into there top 6 now in dzingle, a top prospect with top 6 potential (again assuming he stays healthy) in Logan Brown, and a big body power forward prospect who could play a shut down role on their bottom 6 in nick Paul.

Eichel and the buffalo coach don't see eye to eye anyway so it makes sense for both sides.

Ottawa new lines (not necessarily in this order)

MacArthur turris Ryan
Hoffman brassard stone
Burrows pageau eichel
Smith white pyatt

Claisson Karlsson
Phaneuf Chabot
Oduya Ceci


Harpur borvievski wingles.

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25 Jul 2017 05:12:36
Is this a joke?

25 Jul 2017 05:24:31
Really? Then you stick a elite centerman on the third line. only way buffalo trades Eichel is if Karlson is coming back, so it's not even slightly realistic.

25 Jul 2017 06:26:56
I would like to apologize on behalf of all sens fans for this gentleman's stupidness.

25 Jul 2017 11:22:57
Chabot would be a good starting point.

25 Jul 2017 13:03:34
So many things wrong with this there is no good place to start.

25 Jul 2017 13:57:28
1) in the same division. Why would Buffalo give otttawa 'an answer to Austin Matthews'. They need one too!
2) not nearly enough coming back to trade 20 yr old #1 centre
3) eichel on the third line?!
4) inexpensive? For another season, then he's going to be asking for his due, which will make him the highest paid sen
5) Sabres fired the coach because they apparently didn't get along, new coach hasn't started. They didn't just fire bylsma and pay him millions to leave, to give away eichel.

25 Jul 2017 13:58:37
And hoff, we don't blame you. We all feel embarrassed by our own fans from time to time.

25 Jul 2017 15:25:58
Completely understand Hoff.

Right when I thought I've seen it all, this gets posted.
Could be the worst proposal in history of bad proposals.

25 Jul 2017 16:02:55
Hoff. i'm a Habs fan. so. well you read some of the posts from us Habs fans. lol. no need to apologize for fellow fans. Lol. that's all i'd do., and i'm sure some would have ti for me as well, cause i'm far from perfect myself.

25 Jul 2017 17:34:06
Hahaha 👍.

25 Jul 2017 20:54:36
Your kidding right? 2 young blue chip prospects both top 6 potential 1 already in top 6 calibre today plus a big body role player and a 1st and 3rd pick

for a relatively unproven top 6 foward, ill be it crazy potential, and injury prone since day 1 who has shown attitude issues towards coaches

Is somehow not enough to get him? Rofl

Sorry guys 1 sakic in the league is enough this is the real world not nhl video games where you ask the world for a star player lol

And mertle. eichel wouldn't be enough for karlsson's jock strap bud dream on.

25 Jul 2017 21:08:12
I'm just curious though. I like to think I follow the league pretty closely and would like to know if I'm missing something here?

But what exactly has eichel done so far to merit more than 2 blue chip prospects and a 1st round pick let alone adding a 3rd and a decent big body prospect on top of all that besides getting benched a number of times, arguing with the coach a number of times, and being injured a number of times?

Just wandering where the trade logic from some of the people on here comes from? It's crazy to think how some players are so overvalued to some people while other players who have earned more respect than what they're shown get so under valued.

Sorry to tell you folks but karlsson and Chabot are not the only talented players or prospects on the sens rosters. And that's just 1 team I'm talking about here.

25 Jul 2017 23:54:04
I agree that Eichel doesn't have the same value as Karlson at this point in time. Eichel had 57 points in 62 games last season. Draisatl barley beat him in ppg standings having played a good church of the season on McDavids wing (not a knock on draisatl cause he's awesome) my point is that Eichel had a good year despite starting late due to injury and still put up good numbers on s less than mediocre hockey team. Dzingel is 25 years old and just cracking sens lineup, nick Paul is 22 years old and doesn't look like he'll make the team this year or next. The only one that has decent value is brown and mid to late first. I think the only way to make the sabers think about it would be to start with chabot and white. That's the price you pay for s 20 year old potential franchise player.

26 Jul 2017 00:20:38
25 year old Dzingel with 42 career points is a blue chip prospect and 21 year old Eichel with 113 points has proven that much? I don't know maybe I misread that but wow something's gotten be wrong there.

26 Jul 2017 00:39:31
1. Dzingel isn't a prospect dude, he's 24. Safe to say he's reached his peak as a top 9 FWD.

2. Logan Brown is well on his way to being a bust, players drafted after him are developing and excelling in their leagues i. e: Micheal Mcloed drafted right after Brown.

3. Jack Eichel had a 0.93 P/ GPm which would have been the highest on the Sens. Yes. even higher than Karlssons.

Jack Eichel is a franchise player. you don't get them for scraps my dude.

26 Jul 2017 03:09:02
Senskills. 2 'blue chip prospects' lol a 4th rounder from 4 drafts ago who is putting up .50 pts per game in the AHL is a blue chip prospect? And you say we are overvaluing eichel?!?!
Eichel missed 21 games this year. As a 19/ 20 year old he had a better points per game than ovechkin, tarasenko, panarin, seguin, Tavares, gaudreau, Matthews etc etc while having a lot less to work with in terms of linemates than many of those guys. Dzingle is not a bonifide top 6 player on most NHL teams, nick Paul is not a blue chip prospect, I'll let you call Logan brown a blue chipper because where he was drafted only a year ago, and a first and third from a playoff team is a 15-31st and a 77th-93rd pick. Get real.

26 Jul 2017 03:12:13
Unless you're calling 24 year old dzingle the blue chip prospect, and n that case, nazem kadri is a leafs blue chip prospect too.

26 Jul 2017 13:37:10
Gourde, Howden, Erne, 1st 2018, 3rd 2019 for Karlsson. Karlsson can play 3rd pair behind Stralman and Girardi. Sound good?

26 Jul 2017 15:45:47
If you don't know why Eichel has just as much maybe more value to their team than guys like Driasitl, Ekblad, Murray, even Laine and Mathews, then there's no point in even trying to explain to you.

26 Jul 2017 17:02:52
Karlsson for Eichel.

26 Jul 2017 17:10:31
You would need chabot and white included to even get buffalo to answer the phone and your still gunna add to that for eichel.

26 Jul 2017 17:18:08
Eichel lead the NHL in shots per game by a land slide. He will do a lot better next season.

25 Jul 2017 03:52:18
No one seems to be posting so I will.

Tor- marner

Car- faulk

This is the base of the trade. Gets Toronto their #1 rhd to pair with reilly. Reilly showed that with a true #1 #2 guy by his side he can Excell. (Reilly parayko international combo) . Carolina gets a young winger to add to their younger team.

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25 Jul 2017 15:16:15
Nah i'd rather just hold onto Marner.

26 Jul 2017 17:03:14
Nah Carolina can keep Faulk at that price. Maybe Marner for Slavin. But not Faulk he is to old and small and is not Elite defensively would like defensman younger then Marner in anytrade. Marner=Zach Werneski. The Big 3 can Leave as UFAs. Besides the leafs biggest priority should be depth on the LW not deffense.

26 Jul 2017 17:05:33
I'm not convinced Marner alone would get this done. But, I'm sure it could lead to more discussion.

26 Jul 2017 17:09:51
Toronto adds tho. Faulk is the better player on a good contract and stays healthy. CAN'T say the same for Marner.

27 Jul 2017 14:40:10
Marner missed 5 games in the last 4 seasons and never had a major injury in his life. Like are you okay in the head GoldenShowers? Faulk only played a full season once in his NHL career and had a major injury in 2015-16.

27 Jul 2017 17:05:00
Marner does not have injury concerns he had mono. Come on, know what you are talking about before you say stuff. Also he's on an entry level deal so his contract is far superior to faulks.

25 Jul 2017 03:08:25
Montreal trades scherbak 2016 first and 2 2017 second round picks

Pittsburgh trades Phil Kessel

Pittsburgh and Toronto made a similar trade not too long ago

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25 Jul 2017 12:26:19
But. the 2017 draft already happened.

25 Jul 2017 13:05:40
Montreal already traded away their 2016 first. Ya know, that Sergachev guy?

25 Jul 2017 14:00:03
This might be the least thought through proposal ever lol trading picks from drafts that already happened.

25 Jul 2017 21:14:19
All this mid summer heat must be melting fans brains having some of these silly proposals.

26 Jul 2017 17:06:28
Yes Penguins just won 2 cups with Phil and could be cup favourites again, makes so much sense to trade Phil for futures, right? No from Pens obviously.

27 Jul 2017 01:48:45
Hotguybabes, they aren't futures if they're draft picks you need to go back in time to make, are they?!

24 Jul 2017 07:53:17
3 team trade

Pittsburgh Järnkrok
Gets 3rd line center on great contract

Nashville Duchene
Gets 2nd line center

Colorado Määtä + Daniel Sprong+ 1st rounder from Nashville
Gets young top dman + prospect and pick.

What do you think?

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24 Jul 2017 09:12:24
Pittsburgh loses this so bad.

24 Jul 2017 09:17:45
How on earth does Pittsburgh pay Maatta and sprong and only get back jarnkrok? No way Pittsburgh will do this. and in fact Nashville gets Duchene for only Jarnkrok and probably a late 1st? In this trade Nashville robs Pittsburgh in my opinion.

24 Jul 2017 12:13:47
Must admit that i maybe don't know Sprongs value.
Järnkrok is underrated regarding skill and have a great contract.
Is offensivly talented and would fit great as 3rd line center.
Määtä feels expendable with letang-dumoulin and schultz-cole as top 4.

24 Jul 2017 15:33:59
Preds get a steal, pens get ripped off and avs could do worse, but could definitely do better on duchene too.

24 Jul 2017 18:18:41
If it was a slight upgrade from Nashville I think it would be not bad. Fabbro instead of the 3rd?

25 Jul 2017 01:09:15
Ebs, There was no 3rd from Nashville. They traded jarnkrok and their first (should be late) and got duchene lol. It's bad.

25 Jul 2017 01:36:06
Yeah I misread that. But Jarnkrok, Fabbro and a 1st isn't all that bad is it? Pittsburg could use a good D prospect so it might be enough to make them bite. It's not realistic but that one change makes it a lot closer IMO.

25 Jul 2017 15:00:34
Yeah. It makes it a lot closer.

26 Jul 2017 13:37:28
With the changes to this trade, as proposed by ebs, what isthe purpose of Pittsburgh being involved?
Jarnkrok Fabbro and a 1st should be a package Colorado would be interested in for Duchene.

23 Jul 2017 05:08:51
1st 2018
1st 2019



Resign Markov 2years/10m




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23 Jul 2017 15:21:24
No from both teams.

23 Jul 2017 19:36:36
Wow fir one year of tavares. Way over payment. Leddy isn't that great.

23 Jul 2017 21:02:49
Montreals future for 1 year of JT ehhhh lol.

26 Jul 2017 17:01:26
I agree that you have to try and win during the Price and to a lesser extent Webber eras. And, you will have to give a ton to get Tavares but I wouldn't consider this without a Tavares extension.

22 Jul 2017 19:58:41
WPG: Little
MTL: Galchenyuk

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22 Jul 2017 20:36:31
👏👏 great post. Completely unbiased.

22 Jul 2017 20:52:06
Can u stop.

22 Jul 2017 21:22:40
How boUT
Wpg- laine

Bos- backes


22 Jul 2017 22:56:03
Lol. Jets add. Of course.

23 Jul 2017 14:35:14
Laine for Byron and a 1st?

23 Jul 2017 14:36:09
Little is productive but Gally is Worth more. I doubt the Habs really want to move him unless it's for quite a bit more.

23 Jul 2017 21:03:37
Oh wow borje you sure nailed that one.

26 Jul 2017 17:00:01
Just trying to not be a complete jerk to the guy who put out a post. You may want to try that Mcjesus.

22 Jul 2017 19:39:57
Toronto Maple Leafs and Florida Panthers

Maple Leafs trade JVR and Soshnikov to the Panthers in exchange for Mark Pysyk and prospect Max Gildon

Toronto Maple Leafs and New York Rangers

Maple Leafs trade Tyler Bozak and Leo Komarov to the Panthers in exchange for Mika Zibanejad and prospect Sean Day

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22 Jul 2017 20:31:36
I don't think fla gives up enough in the first one. And well the second 1 is really bad for the rangers.

22 Jul 2017 20:46:36
First one seems alright. IDk who Gildon is tho.

Bozak and Leo doesn't get Ziby.

23 Jul 2017 03:34:20
The Rangers might want Bozak but they will not trade a centre for him. I think the leafs will be happy with a 2nd for him.

23 Jul 2017 14:33:27
Not interested in Psyk at all he's a bottom pairing dman.

23 Jul 2017 14:38:58
VanCity if Hanzel can get a 1st Bozak obviously can.

24 Jul 2017 22:19:26
bozak is worth a first, with all the trash being traded for 1st round picks at the deadline what's wrong with another, bozak is deadly at the dot and plays a very solid 2 way game, when he was with jvr and kessel he was the only one playing any d. not the greatest player but probably will go down as one of the best free agent college signings of his generation.

22 Jul 2017 15:24:47
Tyler Bozak + Alexey Marchenko to the Winnipeg Jets in exchange for Ben Chiarot + 2018 2nd Round Pick + 2018 5th Round Pick

- Jets could use a solid third line centre behind Schief/ Little. Lowry is more suited to a grinder-fourth line center role with PK time. Nic Petan could be the solution for 3C, however, I think it would be easier for him to ease into the league as a W.
- Jets D-core already has Buf/ Myers/ Trouba/ Morissey/ Kulikov/ Enstrom. Chiarot is a 7th dman who is probably not going to see a lot of ice. He is better than Marchenko, however, giving him up in a deal for a 3C won't hurt very much.

- Leafs need to dump forwards ASAP, and don't need anymore coming back.
- A 2nd + a good bottom pairing dman is a decent haul for a guy who hit 55 points last year and has a year left on his deal.

Mark Pysyk + Dennis Malgin to the Toronto Maple Leafs in exchange for James van Riemsdyk + Rinat Valiev + Ben Smith + 2018 4th Round Pick.

- Florida needs wingers now. They lost Marsh/ Smith/ Jagr/ Jokinen, and only gained Tippett, Dadonov (who may take time to adjust to NHL ice) and Vrbata. JVR is a big force that could play second line and play top unit PP. He had 29 goals last year and over 60 points. His value is high.

- Toronto acquires a right shot dman for their prized UFA. It may seem like only a little coming to Toronto, however, if JVR + 1st was offered for Hamonic, then JVR straight across for Pysyk seems about fair. Malgin takes over Bozaks old role, and could flourish there, or could flame out and become terrible.
- Toronto also unloads an extra contract, which could be crucial if trades are dome during the season.


Zach Hyman - Auston Matthews - William Nylander
Leo Komarov - Nazem Kadri - Connor Brown
Patrick Marleau - Dennis Malgin - Mitch Marner
Josh Leivo - Dominic Moore - Matt Martin
*Kasperi Kapanen

Morgan Rielly - Mark Pysyk
Jake Gardiner - Nikita Zaitsev
Connor Carrick/ Ben Chiarot - Ron Hainsey

Frederik Andersen
Curtis McElheinney

Key offseason additions - Patrick Marleau, Dennis Malgin, Dominic Moore, Mark Pysyk, Ben Chiarot, Ron Hainsey.

Key offseason subtractions - James van Riemsdyk, Tyler Bozak, Brian Boyle, Roman Polak, Matt Hunwick, Alexey Marchenko.

I think that the team would be better, just because the defense looks stable. Even if the offence weakens, it will still be very good. Marleau remedies JVR's loss, and Malgin/ Kappy/ Leivo will be remedy Bozak.

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22 Jul 2017 21:32:00
Maybe if JFJ was still Toronto's GM. If that is all that JVR will fetch on the defenseman market (I'm 100% certain he will get more than Pysyk) then I'd much rather just keep him and wait for our defenseman prospects to be ready to play.

23 Jul 2017 14:29:00
Omg is Torontos LW ever weak without JVR. LW is definitely a bigger need then deffense.

23 Jul 2017 16:22:30
I can't believe it says Toronto needs to dump forwards in a hurry and then the centre to play with the new 6.25million dollar sniper marleau is Dennis Malgin! Lol if they need to 'dump' forwards because of the depth, why bring one back to take bozaks spot? They have Nylander who Babcock says is going to be a centre sitting on the wing and lots of cheap capable wingers like kapanen, leivo and rychel on the outside looking in. You don't force players like jvr and Bozak out because you have too many forwards and then give there spot to a new guy who is not even half as productive. Easy way to have a worse team. And pysyk a top pair D is also a joke.

21 Jul 2017 18:24:15
STL and Edm are interested in Iggy. Edm being more interested of the two teams at the moment.

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21 Jul 2017 18:48:40
Man iggy is slow as rubbish wouldn't want him as a blues fan. Had enough passengers over the last few years. Why get another one.

21 Jul 2017 19:43:53
Trader. Are you Colt?

21 Jul 2017 19:45:20
And yes, I agree with ya to an extent.
I would take him on my team for $1M for 1 year to play bottom six. He would be so valuable in most rooms for leadership alone and still will bring it his all every game. Even tho I have never liked the Flames I have loved the way Iggy plays. But he has slowed down.

21 Jul 2017 21:27:28
He would have to know his role from the start, a bottom six player to lead the younger players and show them the way. Maybe get out on a second PP unit for his shot. But it would have to be understood that he isn't there to take someone's spot and even if he has a hot week with 3-4 goals, the plan doesn't change. If he can accept that, why not.

21 Jul 2017 22:53:37
I wonder if his ego would allow.

22 Jul 2017 13:56:39
Brings Leadership, Is physical, Still a goat on the PP and is a presence every time he's on the ice. Feet gave out tho but he has everything else.

22 Jul 2017 16:42:55
Don't think Iggy has a big ego. Met him years ago through a buddy of mine thay was his teammate on Kamloops Blazers. really humble good guy. I think he would be great on Oilers. brings everything most of you other guys said. so why not. at a mill or even 2 max would be money well spent.

22 Jul 2017 17:05:32
Iggy doesn't have a huge ego. Never has. Super nice down to earth guy. Met him at a fruit stand in the Okanagan BC last summer. He spends a lot of time there. Took a few minutes out of his day to talk to me and my brother. Super super nice guy. Have heard so many good stories out of Calgary over the years too.
My older brother was the pro at Banff Spring golf course for ten years and the Calgary Flames would come play all the time. Lots of players would ask for deals while Iggy just hung out in the back of the line and when time to pay never once asked for anything. And was always super super nice my brother said. He's never had an ego.

22 Jul 2017 19:40:41
The guy is slower now but he can still rip the puck. Add to some RW depth and get a legitimate one timer for mcdavid to feed wow look out.

23 Jul 2017 14:32:28
Colt good to have you back buddy.

23 Jul 2017 20:24:12
Mcjesus you can have him.

21 Jul 2017 16:05:10
Winnipeg is apperently being very aggressive on the trade market. They are very intersted in Galchenyuk and have reportedly offered up Tyler Myers to Montreal.

Decent trade. But Montreal needs scoring don't they? They need forwards more than D right now, no?

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21 Jul 2017 16:29:27
You're right this would be brutal for Mtl.

21 Jul 2017 16:43:16
Realistically they need both. They lost a lot of defensive depth but didn't get much offensive depth to make up for that loss either. So in terms of which do they add more, I honestly have say forwards is the more pressing need because the Habs need to score more because they know Price can carry the team if he gets some breathing room on the scoresheet.

So definitely offense first, Defense 2nd.

That's just my take from a non-Habs fan. Others may have different suggest.

21 Jul 2017 16:46:57
Also why do Jets need Galchenyuk? I thought they have a lot of young up and coming players up front and could use a LHDMAN primarily?

Are the Jets lacking Center depth because I don't see them needing young wingers at least.

21 Jul 2017 18:29:03
Don't think you will see the habs make any more trades for defense until Markov is sorted out. If he doesn't come back they have a huge hole on the left D. I hope they get Markov back at a decent $ and sign something to help up front. Jagar would be interesting to see. He's old, but just try to ice a decent team this year because they have screwed up most everything else.

22 Jul 2017 05:39:03
no thank you, montreal needs a c1/ 2 and I'M sure that neither Byran Little or Mark Scheifele are available.

22 Jul 2017 13:43:32
I'd like Connor And Myers for Chuck and a third.

23 Jul 2017 04:30:49
Right now Connor is the son Chev never had. No hope in hell that Chev would trade Connor or Myers.


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