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10 Aug 2018 23:49:04
WPG: Trouba
DET: Larkin

Detroit gets a #1 RHD from Michigan that'll be their cornerstone piece in the rebuild. Jets get a top C who can play on the second line behind Scheifele and flourish. Also to note Larkin and Connor grew up together so they'll have some chemistry as well.

The Jets may need to add however I rate a top defenceman over a top center based on positional value. It's harder to find the top defenceman compared to a center which always seems to be a top 3 Pick if not multiple within the top 3.

Thoughts?

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11 Aug 2018 04:40:16
I like it but guarantee you people think Trouba can get more lol however I also think Detroit should keep Larkin they need him.

11 Aug 2018 05:27:59
No way from Detroit they just signed there home town boy future captain to a cap friendly 5 year deal.

11 Aug 2018 06:04:42
Detroit would have nothing left at center, so I can't see them doing it. The Jets need their top pairing RHD more than a 2C, so it doesn't work for Winnipeg.

11 Aug 2018 09:29:43
Detroit wouldn't trade Larkin as they have just locked him up for 5 years and he is their stud center. They would love to have Trouba but I don't see the Wings having any players that the Jets would want for their #1 right shot d-man.

11 Aug 2018 11:28:15
Face it guys, these WPG fans know best. Trouba is just too valuable. In addition to singlehandedly winning the Jets a cup this year he is also designing a climate controlling apparatus to make the winters in the peg less harsh. He might even have superpowers. He can beat Guitar Hero on expert and his pubes cure cancer.

11 Aug 2018 15:15:20
No Unsportsmanlike its just many Jet fans are realistic that the Jets will expect a proper return for a young RHD. Chevy wouldn't want scraps like many of the Leaf offers posted here or players that other teams would never trade like the Larkin proposal. When Chevy makes a deal it will be for pieces that will help the Jets in the future not just now.

11 Aug 2018 15:24:22
The funny thing is he isn’t even the Number 1 D he’s the 2 D behind big buff.

11 Aug 2018 16:13:31
vbbbv Your comment proves how deep the Jets are at d with Poolman, Niku, Stanley and Samberg in the wings. They really don't need the human turnstile Gardner. Some of the Leaf posters should try and peddle him to another team, or better yet keep him since he is so good then he can break your heart with his pathetic defensive play when you need him the most.

11 Aug 2018 17:15:55
Never once proposed the leafs should trade Gardiner I personally think they should keep him. Also this trades about Larkin not Gardiner. Larkin>>Trouba.

11 Aug 2018 20:05:33
Just curious islandjet. Did you only watch one game in the playoffs? Gardiner is not as bad as you make him out to be.

11 Aug 2018 20:47:15
Anyways, I think it’s pretty fair value wise. Joe I agree Detroit would have nothing left at center but if Winnipeg was offered Larkin, I think they’d be all over it. You can never have too many centres and I think he also plays the wing.

12 Aug 2018 00:08:45
Leafs17, I agree that value wise in a vacuum it is pretty good, but the Jets need to keep Trouba more than we need a better 2C. Trouba is our top pairing, shut down defenseman. If Larkin was going to be our number 1C, it would be worth it. But if we trade Trouba for a forward we need to go out and find another young, high end defenseman. It would make our offense, which is already really good, better, but would hurt our defense more. It's just not worth the trade off.

12 Aug 2018 00:43:57
Should the jets be trading Myers for a LD then? No need for 3 strong RH d and a weak left side.

12 Aug 2018 01:57:21
Yeah but memarcusjoe you won’t have Trouba in a year. Larkin would be an amazing return.

12 Aug 2018 07:25:23
Leafs17, we can't trade Myers until we know for sure what is happening with Trouba.

Ebsolutely, why won't the Jets have Trouba in a year? He's still RFA at the end of his contract. If they have to trade him next summer they'll still get a huge return.

12 Aug 2018 07:48:01
My bad I thought he was a UFA at seasons end. Still think Larkin would be a good and smart return.

12 Aug 2018 08:30:09
Ebsolutely, Larkin would be a good return. Just not what the Jets need at this point.

12 Aug 2018 16:00:07
This trade could make sense if Poolman steps up and becomes a shut down defender he has the potential to be. The Jets would be more willing to part with Trouba if this happens. This trade would be fair for both teams as it addresses a desperate need for the Wings and makes the Jets very strong at center. The Wings still should be hesitant to do it as young, talented centers that are signed long term to a fair contract are hard to come by, but Trouba is their home town kid.

10 Aug 2018 21:15:55
Toronto: Josh Leivo

NYI: Micheal Del Colle

Toronto- gives Leivo a new chance considering there is no use for him in their organization. Del Colle could Battle Timoshov/Bracco for a top 6 spot on the Marlies. He has lots of talent but his draft position was to high.

Islanders- get a proven depth forward who can slot in on the third line or be a top line player in the AHL. He's really a player you can plug into any situation. Could be a full time NHLer with the right opportunity.

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10 Aug 2018 21:21:58
I think if Lou believed in him enough to trade a former top 5 pick for him, he would have forced Babcock a little harder to get him in some games. This one I would do from leafs perspective for sure because dal Colle is still young enough. But ideally, we get a pick, free up a roster spot and use both at the deadline if there’s a need to address.

10 Aug 2018 21:43:32
I don’t think the top 5 pick tital holds much value if he’s not considered a bust I’m not sure what is. I doubt he could bring back more then what Edmonton got for Yakapov. I just want to see leivo get a chance in a new organization I don’t care what they get.

11 Aug 2018 01:22:46
Del colle has really looked bad hey. I wonder what the problem is with him.

11 Aug 2018 02:10:44
I know the top 5 doesn’t hold much anymore. Just don’t see them giving him up for Leivo. New management so they aren’t connected to that pick like Snow was, but he still just turned 22 and some of those power forwards take a bit of time. Don’t see them moving him for a guy that Lou just had for the last 3 years and he never made that team.

I want to see Leivo get a chance somewhere too tho.

11 Aug 2018 04:53:19
I think this year could still be a make or break year for him though. He was never the fastest skater but wasn't by no means slow. his stick handeling and overall puck skills were great when he was in junior I thought for sure he'd be a full time nhl forward by now.

11 Aug 2018 05:29:41
It looks like Del Colle is a career AHL/ Euro player but if he has the passion you never know.

11 Aug 2018 05:38:08
Dal Colles main problem is skating. Watching him play it seems he's carrying cement in his skates.

10 Aug 2018 16:31:17
Toronto Trades
Leivo

Winnipeg Trades
Dano

Bottom 9 depth trade Jets need a RWinger and Leafs need a Centre to spell Lindholm.

Thoughts ?

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10 Aug 2018 17:13:15
Dano is a right winger.

10 Aug 2018 17:13:58
This trade doesn't help or hurt either team. Leivo is bigger which the Jets like but Dano is younger. I don't believe that Leivo could make the Jets as they have younger more skilled home grown players that will be given a chance at the 4th line. I hope both players get traded to teams that will give them a fair chance to play as they both have NHL talent but are with teams that are deep at their positions.

10 Aug 2018 18:35:34
No reason for either team to make this trade. The Jets don't need Leivo and the Leafs don't need Dano.

10 Aug 2018 18:45:27
Dano is listed as a centre, But you know better than me where he actually plays. Regardless, leafs signed Par lindholm amd Josh Jooris as options for 4th line centre on July 1st, plus just re-signed Freddy Gauthier for 2 years who I still think the management has a soft spot for and wants him to succeed but this is probably his last crack at the leafs roster before he’s just the marlies career captain.

10 Aug 2018 19:24:33
I agree with you Unbiased Jim about Gauthier and the Leafs. This is another player that needs a trade to another team to get a fair chance to play at the NHL level, much like Petan and Dano with the Jets.

10 Aug 2018 20:44:35
Gauthier dosent need to be traded the leafs have a open 4c spot and if he’s good enough he’ll take it. He’s just flat out not good enough for a full time position.

10 Aug 2018 20:46:33
Jets RWing Depth.
Laine
Wheeler
Little

Dano is more a Centre than a RWinger.
Jets are deep at Centre even with Stastny in Vegas.
It's a move for both players to possibly play more.
I know Leivo will play more in the Peg than with the Leafs and he deserves to play regularly.

10 Aug 2018 20:52:26
Unless I'm mistaken he has never played centre in Winnipeg I'm not sure if he has at the NHL level at all.

10 Aug 2018 21:29:15
Yeah, I don’t know if Gauthier needs to be traded, he’s got a spot in front of him here, just hasn’t grabbed it. The one time he really looked like he was stringing together some good games and gaining trust, he got hurt and it took him months to get another shot.

He’s a big centre (6’5 or 6’6) which there’s always a spot for, but you need to still be able to move in the league now. He’s worked on it a lot and is a far better skater than before, but still never going to be fast. Don’t know if other teams would have any more use for him than we do unfortunately.

I Watched him all through the marlies playoffs and was first row behind the bench for game 7 of the finals when they won. You hear him on the bench, winning or losing he was always talking guys up. And when they won he kinda led the celebration. guys a riot. That’s why I said AHL captain if he can’t make the NHL. Seems like a great team guy and the other players love him.

10 Aug 2018 21:56:10
Did you actually say that little is a winger. The player who until the last couple years was the first line center for them that little.

10 Aug 2018 22:44:17
Unbiased Jim From what you wrote Gauthier is the kind of player fans root for and hope that they can make the big team. Unfortunately time eventually runs out if a player can't crack the line-up by time they are 23 or 24.

10 Aug 2018 23:40:55
Little has played RWing for a few years now yes.

11 Aug 2018 02:17:52
@IJ, for sure. I hope he makes the team every year but it’s hard for him. It’s like he’s born 10 years too late lol I go to a lot of marlies games tho and if he’s a top guy there, I don’t think it’s a bad thing. He could possibly make a bigger impact for the organization Being a role model and helping our prospect pool down there then as a 4th liner.

10 Aug 2018 02:32:09
Ottawa trades: Stone, Smith

Buffalo trades: Nylander, beaulieu, Girgensons, 1st round pick 2019, 2nd round pick 2020

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10 Aug 2018 04:21:58
Literally doesn’t make Toronto any better unless Nylander is going to be demanding a higher cap than stone has currently. Imo.

10 Aug 2018 04:27:05
Doesn't involve Toronto bruh.

10 Aug 2018 05:51:11
Stone would look awfully nice beside Eichel.

10 Aug 2018 06:20:37
McJesus if your going to critique why don't you actually read the trade lol nice one bud.

10 Aug 2018 13:49:08
1 our of 3 names could have been confused with Toronto lol.

10 Aug 2018 16:13:43
Lol but jim you have to agree it really doesn't make toronto any better.

10 Aug 2018 18:34:37
He’s right lol we don’t get better what so ever. And we don’t get worse. Does that make it an even trade?!

10 Aug 2018 19:08:00
I’m confused why don’t you guys think he’d be good with Eichel? Do you not think he’s good enough because he definitely is.

10 Aug 2018 19:45:43
Hahahahahahaha oops.

10 Aug 2018 19:46:45
Like it’s true tho it doesn’t make Toronto any better bud lmao 😂.

10 Aug 2018 20:31:45
Didnt know girgenson and beaulieu play for the leafs lolol. You guys are amazing.

09 Aug 2018 14:49:12
Columbus Trades
Panarin
Ryan Murray

Toronto Trades
Gardiner
Connor Brown
Rasanen (KHL)
1st Round Pick 2019

Thoughts ?

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09 Aug 2018 16:01:43
Gonna need more from Leafs.

09 Aug 2018 16:03:51
And. Leafs don't need Panarin
. Leafs have great forwards. but weak. D and a mediocre Goalie. so go get that. not more forwards.

09 Aug 2018 16:26:07
I wish you never came back if that’s the first thing I’m going to see you post. Lol.

09 Aug 2018 16:38:32
No from CBJ. Gardiner and murray May wash out. I think Gardiner is better, murray is younger and I believe has more term.

But a lot of teams would offer far more than brown, a late 1st and a B prospect for panarin. None of those pieces will give Columbus a future game breaker. When trading a star, you need to be a confident that there’s at least a chance one of the pieces coming back will be a star too.

Don’t think Brown, Rasanen or a late 1st gives them that confidence. Liljegren or Sandin would have to be included, then add.

09 Aug 2018 17:09:06
Andersen is a Top 10 Goaltender not a mediocre one.
If the Jackets want Liljegren then you have to change Murray to Werenski.
Has everyone been asleep and not see what the market will be since the Skinner trade.
Yes Panarin is better but still no 1st Round Pick for Skinner and one prospect that might or might not ever make it in the NHL.
My proposal I have a proven NHLer in Brown a 1st Round Pick a prospect just like the Skinner deal plus like Panarin a Top 2 Defenceman on his last year before becoming a UFA.
In 3yrs most on here looked at every Leaf Player as garbage and in 3yrs look at the Team now.
Sorry everyone Gardiner and Brown are good NHL Players and giving a 1st Round Pick plus Rasanen is there value wise for Panarin and Murray.

09 Aug 2018 17:23:25
Panarin is on another level than skinner.

09 Aug 2018 17:24:10
And then you bring up Columbus also needs to add Werenski Hahahaha.

09 Aug 2018 17:30:11
Leafs don't need Panarin and wouldn't get him for this package. Would have to be a rental for the year because they couldn't afford him and their core.
I thought the trade was funny, but then you topped it when you said if Lilegren was included they had to upgrade to Wrenski.
Agreed, the Skinner trade did silence the market. We won't see another trade involving a sizable player for a while until that dies down is my guess.

09 Aug 2018 17:37:58
Panarin has the 4th most points 5v5 last 2 years in nhl, fair to say comparing him and skinner is pretty off. Would look great playing with Torontos players but definitely not what they need and no way they could resign him anyway. Really not a well thought suggestion and living in video game land or something.

09 Aug 2018 04:41:30
Canucks trade: tanev, grandlund, 2nd round pick 2019

Leafs trade: liljegren, 3rd round pick 2019


??

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10 Aug 2018 20:06:24
you can keep Tanev. He is not worth it.

You keep what you got. We will keep what we got.
Trade Over!

09 Aug 2018 04:37:47
Florida trades: Bjugstad, McCann, 1st round pick 2019

Ottawa trades: Stone, 3rd round pick 2019

What do you guys think about this one?

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09 Aug 2018 05:35:22
Stone could fetch more

09 Aug 2018 17:42:04
Doubt stone could fetch more because he'll choose his team next summer, not a chance sens resign him and everyone knows it, so a one year rental unless traded to a team of his liking.

08 Aug 2018 05:37:04
to Columbus
Compher

to Colorado
Dubinsky ($1.85M [? ] Retained

Dubinsky doesn't fit into Columbus' top 6 as a center (although he still can as a wing) whereas Colorado doesn't have a reliable second like center, as Soderberg is more of a 3rd liner and Compher isn't quite there either. The avs have the cap room to make this happen, although the retained salary would make it easier to sign those coming off their ELCs. Additionally, Columbus gets Dubinsky off the books to help try and keep Panarin, whereas Colorado is not in such a situation, for Rantanen should be easy to sign with the room remaining (especially with Varlamov likely either getting less money or leaving next season)

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08 Aug 2018 02:22:00
What do you guys think of Kapanen+ Carrick

4

Justin Braun +2nd

Brauns controllable for Another Year. Which is BIG for toronto and its at a really reasonable sub 4mil. I would believe this would be an upgrade over Carrick Would maybe even potentially make Gardiner Expendable. I think Reilly Braun would be a sick top 2.

I think its a lot for toronto to give up but their need for a RHD they can control they're going to need to pony up. With their depth they can afford to make this. move. it does make toronto a little older however they're deep enough . Edmonton is a perfect example you need experienced durable. guys with the youngins to win.

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08 Aug 2018 05:38:00
Perhaps you overvalue Braun; he's good, but that's quite the package, and the 2nd doesn't really help for the leafs when they want to win now.

08 Aug 2018 09:17:11
33 points last year, could stick around that or better playing better minutes. Don’t know much about Braun but I’m assuming he has more value than Carrick. And Kapanen might have slightly more value than a San Jose 2nd maybe. Personally don’t see much of a reason for the sharks to do it. Also don’t know if the leafs would want to trade Kapanen for a short term average D.

08 Aug 2018 10:28:27
I’m sorry but did you say Edmonton is a perfect example of what it takes to win?

08 Aug 2018 14:17:16
How does this help San Jose? They give up a top 4 D for some guys that would be in depth roles. Sharks want to win.

08 Aug 2018 18:38:04
@Leafs17. I think he meant that when they had all those young top picks but not the veterans around them they couldn’t win. I could be wrong but I think he was saying they were an example of not winning, meaning to win you need the other way lol.

08 Aug 2018 18:52:09
Braun is pretty meh. but I guess so are the Leafs RHD. I think Toronto would be better off trading a bigger package for a better D man.

08 Aug 2018 21:03:40
This to me is like when people were saying to trade brown+ A pick for Demers. It’s a stop gap Dman that isn’t a huge upgrade. I’d rather them commit to a trade for a good RHD in the core age (Colin Miller, Ryan Pulock, Jacob Trouba) or go with what they have. But giving up depth for another D that isn’t a for sure upgrade on our top 4 doesn’t make a lot of sense.

08 Aug 2018 22:48:49
Thanks for the clarification Jim. I agree with prodepth, the sharks have been in win now mode for a few years now. I don’t see them trading Braun away at the moment.

09 Aug 2018 17:10:40
No problem. With Tavares, Marleau, hainsey, Gardiner, Kadri even mchilliney, they do have plenty of good veterans to help the youth though. Those guys all have like 500 games (or just under), a cpl of them 1000 games. And they aren’t just 4th line guys. They’re playing big roles right along side the top young players. So I don’t see ‘veteran help for young guys’ as a reason to get a guy like Braun. Even Rielly is considered a young D but he has almost 400 NHL games already and Zaitsev was a 7 year pro overseas before coming over.

But for sure I don’t see why sharks do it either.

08 Aug 2018 02:13:58
What do you guys think of

Kapanen+3rd

Justin Braun

Is that to much.

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