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20 Jun 2018 05:28:53
OTT: Karlsson
CBJ: Panarin

Both need a new contract in the next coming years.
I know that Panarin would NEVER sign an extention in OTT. but . value wise.


CBJ could go w

Werenski - Jones
Murray - Karlsson
Cole - Nutivaara

and move Savard . or they could even flip Karlsson for a very good Center + , which CBJ is in the market for. (was. idk if they still are w the emergence of Dubois)
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Not likely to happen , but i was very disappointed when Sens gave away Nick Shore . His advanced stats are Veryy good . and with the right linemates Could be a good offensive player.

OTT: Perron, 7th
CGY: Shore
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Sens draft Zadina 4th .

and

Sens draft Merkley 22nd

as a potential replacement for Karl in a couple years time .

Zadina - Duchene - White
Panarin - Shore - Stone
Dzingel - Pageau - Ryan
Chlapik - Brown - Burrows
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idk , let me know what you guys think . late night thoughts . :)

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20 Jun 2018 06:02:58
Not terrible but no from Ottawa and I doubt Paniran would resign.

20 Jun 2018 06:25:05
Nice joke lol karlsson at 2nd pair defence is hilarious seeing as how he's 3rd best player in the world an neither Jones nor werenski are number 1 or 2 lol.

20 Jun 2018 06:31:55
Karlsson on 2nd pair? Oh boy

20 Jun 2018 11:27:09
sorta hope ottawa gets zadina. i like the kid.

20 Jun 2018 11:53:47
Too funny.

20 Jun 2018 15:05:18
What i learnt from this post is that Rambo is still around - so what is your take on the Hoffman trade?

20 Jun 2018 17:42:19
Panarin for Karlsson?

pass from Ottawa.

20 Jun 2018 03:27:48
Tor: Gardiner; fourth; neilson

Oil: Klefbom.

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20 Jun 2018 10:25:36
Want a better if oilers trade klefbom.

20 Jun 2018 15:28:18
Not saying it’s a bad deal value wise because outside Gardiner, leafs aren’t giving much at all. But I just don’t see the point. He’s only 3 years younger, still shoots left, makes the same money. Could be better defensively, but way below Gardiner offensively. Only advantage would be the added term at a decent cap number. But the fact that Gardiner is done after this season is a positive I think for the leafs, with Karlsson and doughty free agent RHD, and OEL still not officially signed on the Left side. It leaves options open at least.

20 Jun 2018 23:42:13
No point from Edmonton. Rather keep Klef unless i was getting a solid winger or a RHD exchange

20 Jun 2018 02:56:20
senators acquire: boedker, bergman, 6th
san jose acquire: donaghey, 5th, 2nd, 4th, 5th
florida aqcuire: hoffman

who won the deal overall? thoughts? (i know it wasn't a 3 way deal, but that was the final result of the deal.

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20 Jun 2018 03:17:06
Not Rambo.

20 Jun 2018 03:23:21
not sens -. -.

20 Jun 2018 03:25:25
SAN Jose. They are setting up to go afterTavares. Isles better get it done soon.

20 Jun 2018 03:53:37
Florida wins, San Jose 2nd, every other team that wasn't apart of the trade third, than Ottawa.

20 Jun 2018 04:42:13
I really am dying to hear what Rambo has to say. He was so sure we were all nut jobs and were way off on Hoffman’s value. Lol.

20 Jun 2018 04:56:58
Rambo commented on a rumour on the last page. Saying Duchene is worth more than the 3rd overall but is untouchable unless tavares is going to Ottawa lol because he would leave NYI to go to Ottawa, right? Haha so he’s still alive and online, just not responding to Hoffman items.

20 Jun 2018 07:32:11
i don't understand why people say unbelievable to confirmed trades.

20 Jun 2018 14:13:58
He's still around jim he's sneaking around very Rambo like. Soon when we least expect it he will strike and blow us all away lol.

20 Jun 2018 15:31:13
Lol yeah. I just like after he was guaranteeing hoffman was worth a top 10 pick+ (Way off! ) he is now telling us how much Duchene is worth like his evaluation is gospel. Hoffman got 20-30% of what he said he would, and we are supposed to think he’s right on anyone else’s value? Haha.

20 Jun 2018 00:13:16
Montreal trades: Pacioretty, 2nd round pick, 3rd round pick 2019

Chicago: 8th overall

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19 Jun 2018 22:23:37
MTL: 3rd overall

VAN: 7th overall, Ben Hutton

MTL is strongly rumoured to be taking kotkaniemi or even veleno at 3rd cause they desperately need a center so why not trade down so they don’t go off the board and pick up maybe a bottom 6 or even possibly a top 4 dman that needs a change of scenery and canucks potentially draft Zadina who would help their lw Depth.

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20 Jun 2018 01:26:10
I've never heard one rumor suggesting they will take veleno at 3rd and I've read a lot of rumors. and ben hutton doesn't move you up 4 spots, probably not even 1 spot tbh.

20 Jun 2018 02:04:40
They can get a better if they are moving down that far

20 Jun 2018 02:43:07
EVEN tho Habs want to draft Kotkaniemi, there will prob be a bidding war for 3, and its going to cost more than a #5 dman.

21 Jun 2018 04:35:28
Have have a lot of great defence...I don't see it.

19 Jun 2018 21:34:07
Hearing that Habs really want to get Draisaitl;
So here are my trades to make this work.

Oilers; Gallagher, Benn, #3 overall, our 4th rdp

Habs; Draisaitl, #10 overall, Sekera

- Then -

Oilers; O'Reilly, Ristolainen

Buff; Lucic, Benning, Yamamoto

- Then -

Draft Brady Tkachuk @ #3
Sign Chimera @ 1yr/1.5 mill

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19 Jun 2018 21:54:34
Buffalo laughs at that trade proposal.
Oilers aren't reading Drai, I would be so shocked and pissed. Lol
Montreal is locked in on Kotkaneimi and are prepared to take him at 3rd overall if they don't trade down a few spots.

19 Jun 2018 22:07:32
I don’t know what to the no of the first one. Buffalo laughs hard at the second tho.

19 Jun 2018 22:09:15
Lucid benning and Yamamoto doesn't get oreilly or risto for sure not both.

19 Jun 2018 22:18:01
Oilers Will never trade drai for that 😂.

19 Jun 2018 22:24:24
Haha add mcdavid to the second offer then buffalo accepts.

19 Jun 2018 22:25:26
Id be all over that for Habs. I don't see Edmonton on board.

19 Jun 2018 22:39:38
So you just get to bend Buffalo over and take what you want?

19 Jun 2018 22:45:46
Trade 1- this is a big no from Edmonton Drais>>3rd ovr

Trade 2- Ohh my this is probably the worst trade I’ve seen on this site. Risto would instantly become the oilers best dman. He got THE HARDEST minutes in the nhl on the worst team and still put up decent numbers. I’d give William Nylander for him in a heartbeat. O’Rielly is a number 1 2way c this package dosent get either alone.

Risto is going no where buffalo would be Insane to trade him Dahlin and Risto will make one of the best D pairs in NHL history.

19 Jun 2018 22:54:00
Replace Yamamoto with the 3rd overall and the 2nd trade is not too bad IMO. But no way from the Oil on the 1st trade anyway. Lol.

20 Jun 2018 00:35:28
The first trade is so bad it made my eyes bleed and almost the same for the second but for Buffalo hahaha this post hurts me oh gosh.

20 Jun 2018 02:07:21
Oilers laugh, Buffalo laughs. i'd do Draisaitl and Lucic for Weber and 3rd overall lol

19 Jun 2018 21:06:47
cgy:brodie stone mangiapane
tor: nylander, hyman

mon:gallagher
cgy: ferland bennet

cgy:gillies fox 4th
nyr: bostons 1st.

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19 Jun 2018 22:47:23
If you combined all the peices in all 3 trades from Calgary and offered it for Nylander the leafs would still not consider.

19 Jun 2018 22:58:13
Lol no from Toronto. Brodie and some throw aways for Nylander AND Hyman? Get real lol.

20 Jun 2018 04:09:11
@Franchise billy isn’t that term considered unacceptable now days? Regardless you’re a biased flames fan who obviously has no input to create an argument against my statement so I’ll teach you what hockey is you have a lot to learn.

First of all Nylander is an Elite 20 year old RW who is exactly what the flames need. He’s very likely 70-80 point player consitently in his prime

What I said was clearly an exaggeration but I’ll break down this deal

Nylander

For

Bodie, Fox, Stone, Mangiapane, Ferland, Bennet, Gilles and a 4th.

Quality>Quanity

Player Toronto would want- Bodie, Fox and Bennet

The rest while may be valuable to the flames organization contribute absolutely nothing for the leafs.

Fox is probably going to test UFA like Kevin Hayes, Jimmy Hayes and other college players that chose that route.

Bennet is a player I personally love I think he’ll develop into a Derrick Brassard type but his value is at an all time low

Bodie is coming off a terrible season and his value is also at an all time low IMO I believe he’ll fall off the radar much like Jack Johnson. Still a decent piece tho.

While the value may be there and possibly even be in Toronto’s favour but leafs do not take it.

20 Jun 2018 05:11:42
Pretty well put by vbb actually. You don’t trade a guy like Nylander for spare parts. You trade him for an equal value player, hopefully in the same age bracket (20-24) in a more needed position. A hurricanes-leafs deal could be done. Something around Nylander for hanifin maybe because canes need scoring and have lots of young D and leafs need D with an abundance of wingers. But to trade a guy with his skill and potential for that? And have Hyman in there too? He’s a really good penalty killer who never takes a shift off, put up 40 pts (playing with Matthews obviously helps that) and is signed for 2.25 mill for 4 years. That’s a valuable piece too.

20 Jun 2018 06:35:49
Ya but Nylander > Brodie, Fox & Bennett? c'mon there's a lot of quality there. Young D Prospect, Top 4 Dman, a young former 4th overall pick. don't tell me Toronto doesn't take that.

20 Jun 2018 11:28:53
Yeahhhhhhhh Torornot doesnt.

We spent a lot of time building up this foundation. We aren't trading Nylander for ‘pieces’ were trading him for ‘one solid piece’: (dman; hamilton, hanifin, etc), whild adding a bit.

20 Jun 2018 15:38:49
Agreed with top shelf would you trade Guadreau for Gardiner, Kadri and Dermotte? That’s also a way better package then the 3 you offered.

20 Jun 2018 15:57:04
@franchisebilly, yeah, I’m telling you leafs wouldn’t take that for nylander. But the trade also has hyman going. Hyman is a better player than Bennet currently, still young and signed cheap. Bennett has a higher ceiling if he ever reaches it, I’m not denying that. But today, you’re a better team with hyman on the ice than Bennett. Call them even for simplification. That leaves Brodie and fox for nylander?! No thanks. Willy goes for a big upgrade on D, which Brodie just isn’t. He’s a good Dman. We have 3 good Dmen (Gardiner, Rielly, zaitsev) and a young guy who might be really good in Dermott.

20 Jun 2018 23:46:13
I see your points. A more fair trade would be Hamilton for Nylander but comparing Gardiner to Brodie and Gaudreau to Nylander is kinda off. i'm just saying those are 3 really good pieces, i'm sure that package wouldn't be that bad of a return

19 Jun 2018 20:53:18
Edmonton - Panarin

CBJ - 10th overall, Tyler Benson, Caleb Jones, 3rd round

Elliott Friedman reported that panarin isn’t willing to sign an extension with CBJ ‘at this time’ and so the jackets are seeing what type of trade market there is for him.

Oilers want a legit scoring winger to keep up with mcdavid, and CBJ gets more young assets to build a really good core. The pick would be necessary to make any deal for a player like panarin, and a cpl prospects. I was considering making it yamamoto but decided that might be too much. Benson has potential and so does Caleb jones, plus the connection with big brother Seth there.

Maybe a condition on him signing in Edmonton, which he might be more willing to do to play with Mcdavid?

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19 Jun 2018 21:06:28
Paniran is definitely worth more he makes the Blue Jackets he’s easily there most valuable player. Doubt they move him but if they do he could get a huge hall I’d value him in the Jamie Benn/ Brad Marchand tier.

19 Jun 2018 21:32:08
Yeah, vbb I kinda thought that too, but to be fair he was just traded for Saad (still a good player too) and a back up goalie. He had a great year, but he would only be 1 year at this price as I indicated. And Benn and Marchand both have long term deals if you were to trade for them, I would expect a steeper price.

19 Jun 2018 21:56:23
I would don't at deal.
But some money might be needing to go the other way.
But Nuge - McDavid - Panarin would be unreal. Panarin is a perfect left handed shot for McDavid.

19 Jun 2018 22:21:21
Panarin ain't resigning with cbj, legit trade.

19 Jun 2018 22:28:35
Saad was traded at Maximus value, he just completed 2 full seasons at getting 50+ points including a 31 goal seasons and almost a 25 goal season, last year his value wasn’t pretty high and he was coming “home” so that increase his value aswell, today he may be worth a 1/ 3 if panarin but on the right team he can still be effective, but if panarin was to be traded he should fetch more than what Boston gave for rick nashb.

19 Jun 2018 22:48:52
Him being a pending UFA definitely decreases his value tremendously but IMO he still gets more then this.

20 Jun 2018 00:37:24
How tf can panarin get more than that hahaha as a ufa next season.

20 Jun 2018 04:13:34
You obviously underate him a lot McJesus. I don’t ses a huge gap between him in Tavares a big gap but not a huge one. Paniran value wise ( not resigned) = Nylander IMO.

20 Jun 2018 04:16:47
Also Paniran>>>>>>>>Stone And you think Ottawa decelines in my offer posted below even tho Calgary is giving much more then Edmonton

Both are UFAs Stone is Elite. Paniran is a Franchise player who almost single handedly beat the caps.

19 Jun 2018 17:54:32
Ottawa: Mark Stone

Calargry: Sam Bennet, Jusso Valimaki And Tyler Parsons

Ottawa- gets young nhl player who at worst is a solid 3c but has potential to develope into an upper tier 2c. A top defender prospect and a top goalie prospect. + they trade him outside of the conference

Calargry-it's only a matter of time before Stone asks for a trade so Calargry has leverage but they still need to put bid every other team. Stone brings in exactly what they need in an Elite RW to Compliment Guadreau and Mohnahan.

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19 Jun 2018 18:32:13
The fact you spelt Calgary wrong just is unsettling.

19 Jun 2018 18:32:41
As for the trade Ottawa rejects.

19 Jun 2018 19:25:34
Lol probably should’ve checked the Spelling and isn’t Stone exactly what they’re looking for why would they reject.

19 Jun 2018 19:40:36
Big no from ottawa.

19 Jun 2018 21:57:48
If they trade Karlsson which I think they will and should, I think Stone should get the C in Ottawa. One of the most undervalued players in the league.

20 Jun 2018 00:35:14
Yup you think Stone is willing to stay long term? Highly don’t he’s willing to commit in Ottawa.

20 Jun 2018 00:38:04
Yes that’s what calgary needs but Ottawa doesn’t want that for a return!

20 Jun 2018 15:41:41
I thought pending UFAs don’t get that much? As you stated above^.

19 Jun 2018 17:00:43
Carolina: 30th overall (VGK), Svech, Ericsson (50% retained)

Detroit: Hanifin

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19 Jun 2018 18:33:08
Wtf no from canes hahahaha.

19 Jun 2018 21:25:55
No from the nhl, Vegas already traded their pick to detroit.

19 Jun 2018 21:54:18
Hrenklin lay off the dope bud.

19 Jun 2018 22:50:37
Hrenklin it litterly states Detroit is making the trade.

 


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