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02 Jul 2020 02:30:17
TBA : 1st overall 2020

OTT : 5th overall 2020, NYI 1st 2020, Dal 2nd 2020, Conditional 1st in 2021 (becomes SJS 2nd 2021 and CBJ 2nd 2021 if either Ottawa makes lottery again in 2021 or NYI 1st in 2020 becomes top 15)

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02 Jul 2020 14:02:05
When the 1st Overall is a Franchise Player like Lafreniere you don't trade it, so whoever is lucky enough to get this year's 1st Overall will not be trading it.

04 Jul 2020 18:59:24
Pinballisback if you're a team that don't necessarily need him and can get a package like this in a draft as deep as this one you don't think twice and accept it before it's off the table.

The 5th can get you 1 of Drysdale, Rossi, Raymond, or Perfetti.

The Isles pick if top 15 can get you 1 of Askarov, Lundell, Quinn, Sanderson, Jarvis, Zary, Lapierre, Mercer, or Gunler. If isles go deep you still get a shot at some of them plus Barron.

The Dallas 2nd gives you a shot at guys like Chromiak, Foerster, Nybeck, Wallinder, or Villeneuve


Then you also get either the 1st or two 2nds next year on top of that depending on conditions.

I'm sorry but even if Lafreniere were deemed better than McDavid at his age, that's STILL an overpayment and a must say yes deal for any play in team. Only Detroit, Anaheim, or Montreal I can see saying no due to their team situations. Everyone else saying no would be stupid to say the least.

01 Jul 2020 21:07:49
After tornament

Mtl- domi-mete

Buff- ristolanen-girgenson

Habs sign kovalchuk 2.5M/ year sith bonus

Habs sign reaves 2year 2.5M

Habs sign talbot 2year 2.5M


Tatar-suzuki-kovalchuk
Drouin-danault-gallagher
Lekhonen-girgenson-armia
Byron-evans-reaves

Ristolanen-weber
Romanov-petry
Chiarot-fleurykulak

Price-talbot

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02 Jul 2020 01:07:58
Idk I'd mete for risto helps the habs, but domi is the better forward by a bunch, and can play centre better too.

02 Jul 2020 03:31:53
Reaves re-signed with Vegas I think.

01 Jul 2020 17:31:40
Kapanen for Savard/Manson
**Savard comes with extension**
U choose

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01 Jul 2020 18:13:02
Pass on both, they both had off years and seem to be on the decline. Would rather target someone younger like Roy or Montour who could still play a defensive role beside Reilly.

02 Jul 2020 01:10:23
That's what you go after with kapanen, is a good defender on a down year. Kapanen is not a hot shot winger, If you can get a 2nd pairing defenseman for him, you go for it.

02 Jul 2020 14:45:41
Manson and Savard are 3rd pairing defenceman at best though that’s the thing. And honestly imo Holl is better then both of them.

Holl almost had the same amount of points as those two combined. He is much better defensively and he is younger and going to be on a great contract for the next 2 years.

When you give up a young player, you either expect to get an older guy who is much better, or you expect another young player to be coming your way. That just simply isn’t happening with these trades.

01 Jul 2020 14:59:25
This one is for vb

Matthews 50% retained for Parayko.
Marner 50% retained for Montour
Nylander for Roy

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01 Jul 2020 16:20:37
That’s just silly lol

Value wise I’d say this is what’d it’d take from respective teams

Mathews for Paryanko, Robert Thomas and Alexander Steen ( cap )

Marner for Ristolainen, Rienhart and 1st

Matt Roy for Timothy Liligeren and 2nd 2020 or Nick Robertson

Not saying other teams do those deals but that’s what those players are worth imo.

01 Jul 2020 16:59:23
Ya Dubas is right on that today
Lol.

01 Jul 2020 19:48:40
Honestly I think if it was the 2nd round pick, the leafs would actually do the Matt Roy one. If it was Robertson though I don’t think they would go for it because we don’t really have to many decent forward prospects in the system at the moment. Maybe like Abruzze and Abramov but that’s basically it.

01 Jul 2020 20:50:10
@vb I think it would be more of Kapanen for Roy, no? I'd think Robertson might be a bit too much, but I'd agree that Roy>>Dermott.

02 Jul 2020 14:13:56
The thing is a rebuilding Kings wouldn’t be as interested in a player in his prime.

01 Jul 2020 07:11:18
San Jose Sharks:

Tomas Hertl

Ryan Merkley

1st Round Pick 2021

Jonathan Dahlen


Buffalo Sabres:

Jack Eichel.

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30 Jun 2020 20:24:15
Buffalo:
K. Kapanen RW
J. Bracco RW
A. Kerfoot C
T. Dermott D

Toronto:
R. Ristolainen D
B. Montour D

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30 Jun 2020 20:42:49
Buffalo declines.

30 Jun 2020 22:09:35
Lol Buffalo declines haha. They would take that in a heartbeat. Leafs 100% say no.

Any trade that has Kapanen and Ristolainen is automatically a no. Maybe if the leafs took out Kapanen they would go for it.

Dermott > Montour
Kerfoot=Ristolainen

Anyway, leafs can’t afford this regardless.

01 Jul 2020 01:16:04
Dermott>Montour is a joke come on. I love Dermott but he isn’t worth Montour.

01 Jul 2020 01:37:15
Risto is overrated. Leafs would decline. Montour value has declined a lot . Kapanen has risen.

01 Jul 2020 07:08:13
@tml33: As a rule of thumb, if there's a deal involving TOR and VB says the other team declines. That tells you all you need to know about that deal. And if YOU are then the person saying TOR declines, you know you're the most biased Leafs fan on earth. Congrats, bro.

01 Jul 2020 08:19:13
4 5 Dman
Prospect who walked away from his team
Kappy 30 40 or player
And a third line center

For risto and contour

Buff says no

Bracco has no value
Kerfoot has a little value
Dermot is ok
Kappy is the only good value.

01 Jul 2020 14:26:31
Kappanen has more value the 30-40 point player @ redwing he could fetch a similar return to Coleman. Abit less but similar.

01 Jul 2020 14:32:44
Leafs don’t want Risto. Overpaid, overrated, no defensive skill. Not the guy the leafs need.

Even if Dermott doesn’t equal Montour in trade value, Dermott+Kapanen is a big overpayment for him. Kapanen is a potential 50 point player, and Dermott is a young future top 4 defenceman. Just because he isn’t now doesn’t mean he won’t be in a year or two.

Imo Kerfoot+Bracco is more then enough to get Risto. Redwing even if Kerfoot has little value, so does Risto. He isn’t even worth Liljgren at this point. Kerfoot at leafs gives Buffalo some options up front and ensures they get a proper middle 6 forward.

01 Jul 2020 14:43:51
At least*.

01 Jul 2020 14:57:31
Btw this same trade was posted on the leafs rumours site and basically every leafs fan thinks it’s an overpayment by the leafs, it’s not just me.

You guys may think it’s a fair trade, but leafs fans and Dubas would never go for it, that’s all I’m saying.

01 Jul 2020 16:24:36
Saying risto has no defensive skill is ignorant he has one of the highest blocked shot totals in the NHL it’s transition that kills him. He’s a very solid PKer and is very physical he’s just overplayed in the right role he can be very effective similar to Jack Johnson in his prime.

01 Jul 2020 17:28:17
Vb we’re talking about the same player right? You know the one that is -145 in his entire career at only 25 years old?

01 Jul 2020 18:40:03
Yes he was misused and on an awful team +- is an awful stat to look at and make on conclusion. A player like him should be playing sheltered minutes. PP, PK or Offensive zone starts.

02 Jul 2020 06:43:35
Thank god we have you to tell us what Dubas for sure would do or not do. Thanks for the inside infos.

30 Jun 2020 16:30:02
Seattle

Takes sven beartschi in expansion

Canucks give

3rd round pick in 21/22

-----------------------------------

Yes this means anouther year with sven contract.

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30 Jun 2020 18:32:50
Who will Vancouver expose that’s good?

30 Jun 2020 19:24:21
When does the expansion draft happen? Pretty sure he’ll be a UFA for it.

30 Jun 2020 22:13:35
UFA in 21/22... expansion 20/21.

30 Jun 2020 22:24:36
This was the rules for vegas expansion.


They allowed each team to either protect seven forwards, three defensemen, and one goaltender or, one goaltender and eight skaters regardless of position.


So I would keep
Pettersson
J.t. miller
Boeser
Gaudette
Toffoli (if her resigns)
Markstrom
Hugh's

By the time expansion for seattle happens....

There could be
Hoglander
Podkolzin
Juolevi
Tryamkin
Jett woo

Demko should be protected

30 Jun 2020 22:26:56
Then he will be a UFA. Expansion draft happens at the end of the season.

30 Jun 2020 22:35:16
They allowed each team to either protect seven forwards, three defensemen, and one goaltender or, one goaltender and eight skaters regardless of position. As I understand it will be the same for for seattle

01 Jul 2020 00:31:42
You could be right Ebsolutly. I could very well have misinterpreted cap friendly.

01 Jul 2020 00:40:37
Isn’t the rule if they’ve played less than 3 years pro there exempt? So Hughes would be exempt but Demko wouldn’t be.

01 Jul 2020 12:10:00
Good news is you won’t have to worry about his contract! Lol.

30 Jun 2020 16:16:07
Tor: Phil Myers
Philly: Kapanen Liljegren

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30 Jun 2020 18:01:38
Pass, Phil Myers is LHD, not RHD.

30 Jun 2020 18:34:38
From what flyers fans say Philip Myers is untouchable.

05 Jul 2020 19:13:14
I never understand the concern between a lhd and rhd the defenseman is talented it shouldn't matter.

 


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