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10 Jan 2018 08:02:42
Maple leafs marner Liljegren

Buffalo saber
ristolainen alex nylander

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10 Jan 2018 12:18:36
W. Nylander for R. Ristolainen, S. Reinhart, C. Pu and a 1st Rd pick in 2018. Marner is untouchable along with Matthews.

10 Jan 2018 13:33:43
The trade won’t happen between those two teams but I don’t think it’s terrible. I like marner over risto however ristos position clearly holds more value than a winger. And nylander is more valuable than liljegren. Far better than your Canucks trade proposals. But just don’t see it happening.

10 Jan 2018 13:34:32
And I hope NylanderMagic is a troll imitating Nylander! Because that’s just insane.

10 Jan 2018 16:53:05
I wouldn't be surprised if Nylandermagic is Nylander. Seems like something he would say/ think.

10 Jan 2018 17:41:19
I wonder if its william nylander himself and he's supper jealus of mathew. So he want him traded for kole lind and has a booner for marner so he untouchable. It all make sense now. Lop.

10 Jan 2018 17:45:41
Oh yay 2 Nylanders who don’t know anything about value yay.

11 Jan 2018 20:53:06
NOpe i'd make that trade in a heartbeat. Risto for Marner is fair Marner might have abit more potential and I’d take Nylander over Liligeren.

10 Jan 2018 07:02:00
This was mentioned earlier and it was very interesting to me. But I’ll make my own little twist on it.
With OEL most likely leaving coyotes in free agency might as well get something for him now than losing him for nothing.

Oil: Klefbom + Nuge
Yotes: OEL + Duclair

Klefbom would be a great return if they were to lose OEL and he’s also on a great contract. While Nuge is playing very well right now but does carry a big cap, Coyotes have plenty of cap space for it.
Edmonton get their PP guy as well as a top dman in general, and then also add more speed and skill on LW with Duclair.
This is also not with the insurance that OEL will sign long term extension in Edmonton.
However I do believe he would sign if offered (mcdavid, new arena, potential) .
I think this trade could benefit both teams but that’s just my opinion.
Thoughts?

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10 Jan 2018 13:38:21
I don’t see why Arizona adds to OEL, not that Duclair has a ton of value on his own at this point but I feel like oilers would be very satisfied getting a far superior defensman at the cost of a good but expensive 2nd-3rd line centre. Maybe I’m missing something but I was shocked when you said yesterday the coyotes would take those 2 in a heartbeat for OEL, so maybe it’s just me lol.

10 Jan 2018 14:57:03
I like the base but think the oilers might have to add in a pick around the 3rd or so. Good post though!

10 Jan 2018 17:51:21
I see where you’re coming from but like I said Coyotes May lose OEL for nothing and that’ll be atrocious for them losing a star defenseman and getting nothing in return. And I added Duclair because for one he requested a trade, and two, he’s being absolutely horrible where as Nuge has been playing like he should have been his whole career. He’s playing more like he did earlier in his career where he was playing very well. And not to mention both klef and Nuge are young and fit Coyotes age group well just like OEL and Duclair did. Keeps the core young and promising.

10 Jan 2018 19:12:30
Okay. I know what you mean, I must be way off or a lot of oilers fans disagree with me lol. Like I said, don’t think it’s bad. I like both those oilers players and don’t think it’s a real lowball or anything, just didn’t see it as so cut and dry easy for coyotes to say yes.

10 Jan 2018 20:29:57
Good trade for both teams but i feel like oilers add a pick either a 2nd/3rd. I like it tho!

10 Jan 2018 05:19:48
ANA: Kevin Bieksa (4mil), Max Jones (894K), 2018 1st round pick, and 2018 3rd round pick (NJ or ANA whatever better) .

MTR: Max Pacioretty (4.5 mil), David Schlemko (2.1 mil), and 2018 5th round pick.

Canadiens are apparently looking for an A ranked forward prospect and a 1st for Patches, I don't believe he warrants that for the season he is having. Max Jones is a B prospect who projects to at least be a top 9 forward with good goal scoring/ finishing abilities. Haps also get a couple picks.

The Ducks need another scoring wing with Perry's terrible year (6 goals in 32 games) and Eaves' medical condition. Also trading Bieksa for Schlemko gives them a bottom pairing D-man with term on cheap for the foreseeable future and a little more space to add one more piece to make a playoff run.

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10 Jan 2018 06:14:27
Bieksa has NMC not a chance he will waive it for Montreal.

10 Jan 2018 14:42:06
Like Bergevin said MTL try to reset and not rebuild, they try trade player for great young NHL player and not pick or prospect.

10 Jan 2018 18:59:51
Max jones is not a a rank prospect his a c+ maybe a b-.

10 Jan 2018 22:26:42
Come one man Ana adds.

10 Jan 2018 00:40:42
To Tampa
Green

To Detroit
Howden
2018 1st

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10 Jan 2018 01:22:30
tampa doesn't have anywhere near enough cap room.

10 Jan 2018 04:18:56
Sure they do, more than enough deadline space for him. Then the Wings will flip that bottom 4 pick to Montreal for 2 seconds in 2018. That's my crystal ball guess for the draft.

10 Jan 2018 04:36:42
Ive heard Tampa is projected to be able to add up to 9 mill in contracts at the deadline.

10 Jan 2018 04:54:18
seems like a waste to use all their deadline space on green; could probably get a little more bang for their buck.

10 Jan 2018 10:25:02
TB has more than enough space to add him at the deadline. With that being said, there is literally no way TB is that stupid. Howden is projected to be a good 2/ 3 two-way C and a 1st? TB already has 8 NHL defensemen and regularly scratches 1 or 2 of them.

10 Jan 2018 12:06:06
Ya one of their top prospects and a 1st seems a little heavy. As for adding Green he seems exactly like the type of player they need. Right handed puck moving D. Also assuming they don't move anyone else (theyd likely need to move Sustr in that deal) theyd have 3 mill left for a third line winger.

10 Jan 2018 00:19:39
NOTE: this happens over the offseason/ next season

to Arizona
Callahan

to Tampa
Martinook

Arizona gets another battle tested veteran, which is clearly something they are trying to amass (see Hjalmarsson and Stepan) and Tampa gets a cheaper, similarly productive player and a massive amount of cap relief, which they will desperately need for players like Koekkoek, Sustr, Namestnikov, even Kucherov in 2 years.

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10 Jan 2018 02:30:53
AZ taking a bad contract. They need to get more.

10 Jan 2018 02:39:09
I believe Tampa would need to add. They can't give that contract away.

10 Jan 2018 04:53:33
martinook is having a better season, statistically, while playing on arizona. maybe they give rieder instead?

10 Jan 2018 07:33:35
Tampa bay at ther very least well have to give a 1 rd pick to get ride of challahan.

10 Jan 2018 10:13:26
Tampa adds. Also they aren't keeping Sustr especially at a raise.

10 Jan 2018 10:14:01
Tampa adds. Callahan has negative value.

10 Jan 2018 10:25:37
TB would need to send a prospect or pick as sweetener I guess.

10 Jan 2018 12:08:50
High i'm going to ask again. because you never answer and maintain your position. Why would Tampa trade a first + to dump Callahan when they are currently sitting on 4 mill cap space, have other contracts expiring in time to give current players raises and the depth to replace departures from within? If they end up needing a little extra they can buy him out after next season.

10 Jan 2018 16:39:44
Cause bayout don't work all the time like if you have front loaded contract like challahan if they buy him out they well have to still pay 4 mill a year for the next 3 year its like how lawson cruise got traded for nathan horton.

10 Jan 2018 19:08:17
High the buyout calculator on cap friendly is a thing of beauty. Cap hit remains at like 1.5 mill for the buyout. And when will you get it they don't need the space bad enough to do these trades and a 1st and top prospect is a lot more than Crouse. Crouse wasnt for Horton either it was for Bolland.

10 Jan 2018 19:17:22
Lawson crouse was traded WITH Dave Bolland, not FOR Nathan Horton lol.

11 Jan 2018 05:09:21
However @jbs I wouldn’t say a 1st or a top prospect is worth a lot more than Lawson Crouse. Because when that trade was made he was a very recent top 5 pick, which makes him a first round top prospect lol now the fact that he hasn’t become a star yet is irrelevant to the trade, it’s what he was at the time. The pick or top prospect HiGH247 says you need to add may never turn out either, but you still value them that way when you’re trading it.

09 Jan 2018 23:22:46
Tavares is rumored to be traded by deadline.

Ottawa players brassard Smith and Ceci all drawing legit interest from around the league.

Nyi: Tavares

Ott: brassard, Ceci, Smith, white

Isles get a top 6 center, top 4 young defenceman who's starting to look like he can reach the potential originally seen in him, an elite prospect center, and a big body physical guy who can play anywhere in the line up, rather than losing him to free agency for nothing.

Then ottawa trades burrows who has also been drawing league interest for a 3rd or 4th. and dumps Phaneuf for what ever they can get. then MacArthur retires.

Dzingle Tavares stone
Hoffman Duchene Ryan
Chlapic pageau pyatt
Dumont kelly Thompson

Karlsson oduya
Wideman Chabot
Claeson borowieski


Then aim for dahlin in the lottery or the back up plan of Brady tkechuck (if I even spelled that Right lol)

With the contracts dumped they should have more than enough money to resign stone EK and Tavares and have some left over for the future.


Keep in mind Tavares is getting traded anyway, meet York will want to remain competitive now rather than fall into a total rebuild, and considering what stars have gone for lately it's doubtful they'll get a better offer for him than this.

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09 Jan 2018 23:32:52
I don't know what your hearing and that return is horrible 3 decling players and a decent prospect for Tavares a top 10 player in the league maybe top 5 right now no way.

10 Jan 2018 00:13:20
I definitely think they should dump smith but the Islanders might hold on to Tavares after all. Regardless I think this is not one of the situations where a team is looking for quantity, so the Senators would have to offer up something better than what they do in this hypothetical.

09 Jan 2018 23:39:08
You really think that's the best offer the Islanders would get for Tavares?

Laughable.

10 Jan 2018 00:29:49
Hahahaha like wtf tho no from Islanders this is terrible.

10 Jan 2018 00:58:19
Why would you loose the farm on JT when you can buy him in a couple years!

10 Jan 2018 01:13:49
Ya. no from Isles. Also. do you think that Chris Kelly still plays for the sens?

10 Jan 2018 02:40:40
That's not the farm and Tavares is free this summer buddy.

10 Jan 2018 05:17:51
I think a lot of people overate half a season of Tavares.

10 Jan 2018 06:16:51
Nylander again you prove to know nothing. Keep it up. Tavares is a franchise player (no Marner is not) and he’s a top 10 player in the world. Bruh.

10 Jan 2018 10:12:43
His contract is up at seasons end, he already made public he has no intentions of resigning a contract with new York, no team in their right mind is going to pay top dollar for a rental player sorry to tell you guys.

Ottawa has the guys that can be dumped and not cripple the team doing so.

And what declining players are you even talking about canucks?

Ceci - on the rise and getting better not on decline.

Brassard and smith - both as consistent as ever and also not near a decline.

White - elite level prospect with potential to reach top 6 or even top 3 center.

The most a rental usually gets is a roster player, a decent prospect, and a mid to late 1st. here they get a roster player in Smith an elite prospect in white a top 4 d in Ceci and a top 6 center in brassard so yeah I do think this is the best they could get for Tavares if he doesn't come fully signed.

Oh as for Ceci value here's a news flash, he was supposed to have been traded a couple years ago to Edmonton straight up for taylor hall but having to wait for approval from owner ultimately costed them as devils sweeper him up. considering he has improved since then I'd say his value went up too.

10 Jan 2018 11:23:14
Stop. Overating. Your. Players.

Its annoying buddy.

Ceci ain't on the rise. All Sens fans i see on Ig/ twitter are harping on him and the pairing of him/ Oduya. he's probabky a good number 4 dman, but nothing really more.

Brassaed and Smith ain't as consistent as ever. Brassard is an okay 2nd line centre or very good 3rd liner, but nothing more. he's nowhere near elite 'consistent status', and the downgrade frok tavares to him is huge. And Smith is merely a cup dump, don't play him up, he's 3 million for a 4th lime centre, similar to Marcus Kruger.

And White ain't an 'elite prospect'. he's a good prospect, a high end guy for sure, but i'd put him in the same boat as guys like Julian Gauthier or Sam Steel. Elite would be guys like Miro Heiskanen or others like that.

Basically, with the cap dump of Smith, that makes up from the addition of Ceci. This is basically Brassard + White for Tavares. No way NYI accepts. They'd be either trading JT for a boatload of picks/ prospects, or, for a star player in return.

Sorry i had to rant, but its getting frustarting seeing you overvalue Ottawa players despite everyoje saying their valeus are less than what you percieve em as.

10 Jan 2018 12:11:59
Rambo Cecis value has fallen off a cliff last couple years. He simply isn't that good. Also A) that was with Chia and he's an awful GM and B) Sens refused Drouin for Ceci and people were on board. So thank you. You think that's still where his value is? So glad we got Sergachev instead.

10 Jan 2018 17:48:54
I never said brassard or Smith were elite players topshelfslappers, I said they were consistent at their level which is a difference.

There is absolutely no way newly York gets Top dollar for a guy who remains unsigned, espessially one at Tavares level. no team will give more than that for him unless he's fully signed to a new contract, why would they take that chance of giving an all star package for a chance he signs with them as if he walks, they just gutted their team for nothing.

As for Smith and white, you're undervaluing white as he is for sure an elite prospect, why do you think Colorado was pursuing him and Chabot so heavily in Duchene garbage?
And Smith has been and still is one of the sens most sought after trade chips because he's a big body physical guy who can play any role on any line you need him to.
If you watch tsn and any of the sports shows let alone the game itself you'd already know this.

I'm not over valuing anyone I'm simply giving their actual value rather than the underrated values that seem to be perceived by people like you who think they know something but in reality know nothing.

10 Jan 2018 17:58:06
Like for instance I remember someone a while back saying Ceci wasn't worth a high 2nd round pick let alone a 1st, yet reality seemed to agreed with me in that a trade of Ceci straight up for Drouin was rejected by sens, and if not for ownership approved being needed first their was a deal made with Edmonton that would have seen Taylor hall for Ceci straight up.

Call me crazy but proposals of Ceci for a 1st look like a low ball offer compared to these 2 deals don't they? And Ceci has definitely gotten better since then espessially this season so his value has to have gone up or at the very least no way it's gone down.

10 Jan 2018 19:22:02
Cici has NOT gotten better in the last two seasons. He's gotten way worse. He had value two years ago because he then still was supposed to be pretty good, a lot better than he is now. He still had that thing called potential two years ago and that's what made him a little valuable. Two years later we know what the potential is. And it sure as rubbish isn't improved. Lol. That's hilarious.

And yes. You overvalue your Players drastically.

Zack Smith has 3G, 6A, 9P in 27 games and is a -15.
Career 155 points in 501 games played.
Making $3.25M a year for the next 3 seasons after this one WITH a modified NTC. He's nothing special man.
I really like the player, and would like him in my bottom six, but not for $3.25M for that production. He doesn't have much value with all things considered, production and salary and term.

10 Jan 2018 19:40:13
Cmon rambo.

this is the equivelant of bozak, komarov, carrick, kapanen and a 2nd for tavares. its so bad. stop being so biased towards sens players.

10 Jan 2018 20:13:57
Ok. Born and raised Sens fan from Ottawa here. First off with Duchene, Stone and Karlsson needing large contracts (7m, 7m, 12m) soon and 2 very ugly contracts on our books with Ryan, Phaneuf and another few smaller 2 year no trade contracts for players like Thompson and Burrows ( who is not going to get us a bag a pucks let alone a 3rd. ) we are in no position to take on Tavares nor would he likely wanna be here after this year.

I love that we got so close last year to making it to the stanley cup final but give your head a shake and come back down to earth. We gave away Methot for squat, lost wingels, Stalberg and macarthur as well.

Dorion and Melnyk are killing us. Gives away Karlssons partner and gives up Turris, First (protected if top 10) and a First rd'r (bowers) for Duchene.

realistically/ hopefully we trade away people who have value but are not essential like Hoffman, Smith and ceci and try to dump Phaneuf or Ryans contract somehow.

Brassard has value because he is am inexpensive centre on the books but because of that as well and the fact our owner is cheap he is likely not going anywhere.

10 Jan 2018 20:07:58
1) He has never said he has no intention of signing in New York, in fact the exact opposite. He keeps saying he wants to (whether that’s the truth or not is to be seen)

2) Tavares is not being overrated on half a season, has been a star in a shitty market for a long time.

3) Ottawa has a superstar player who I highly doubt is going to be there this time next year, and these players talk to each other. No other star is going to sign there if their own drafted and developed guy feels slighted there.

4) islanders might (especially if this is the return) keep JT for the playoff run the way they are going, and have a handshake deal (like yzerman and stamkos had) with him that if he wants to leave come July, he can negotiate his contract with any team he wants and they do a sign and trade through NYI.

This gives islanders a cpl assets, gives the other team the player they really want and gives Tavares a chance to get the 8th year in his contract he couldn’t otherwise get.

10 Jan 2018 22:14:10
As a sens fan from ottawa i agree 100% with frippers view, man that was well said.

12 Jan 2018 22:00:49
I never said Tavares is over rated he's elite no doubt that's not in question when it comes to his trade value. what is in question is his unsigned contract status which WILL bring down his value I don't care how elite a player he is.


Think of it from team management perspective. you offer your best player 3 different contract extensions with your club all of which he turns down without a sencond thought the biggest of which was 12.35 million per season, yes this was the latest offer, do you

A-keep him anyway and pray he changes his mind or let him walk away for nothing in free agency

Or

B-take an offer such as this one that keeps your team competitive now as well as gives you a big piece for the future

Most if not all gems will go with option b

Look at spezza deal when he was moved to Dallas. still in his prime and all he got was chaison a pick and paul and he was a point a game guy at the time too and he had a term contract.

13 Jan 2018 18:24:10
It's beyond me where you guys get your value ratings from.

Its like when it comes to the ottawa players only, you base their value solely on the players worst career seasons, ignoring every other thing it should be based on thus resulting in you low ball ratings of sens players value.

News flash guys, a players value, no matter what team they play for, is NOT defined by 1 bad season. it is defined by the players overall effectiveness, consistency, ability to affect the game, career totals, in some cases team needs, and Yes, like in Tavares case, term of contract.

One bad season doesn't affect their value what so ever!

09 Jan 2018 22:33:31
If i was jim benning i would try to unload all my assest

Canucks: dahlen ben hutton 2 rd pick eriksson

Carolina: haydne fluery

Canucks: tanev vanek grunland or gadjovich 2 rd pick
Nashville fabbro Tolvanen

Canucks: edler sutter canuck retain 3m m of edler contact next year and .8 million a year of sutter contract freeing up 3 m in cap for

Tampa: Callahan coburn foote 2rd pck

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09 Jan 2018 23:34:03
Not trading Dahlen Gadjovich or our 2nds were good with drafting 2nd round picka.

10 Jan 2018 00:15:15
Don’t think there’s enough quality going to Nashville. I wouldn’t say that Tanev is a upgrade on any of the top 4 defence that they already have and yes Vanek is having a decent year but he’s getting old and isn’t exactly known for his playoff contribution. Don’t know much about gadjovich but I do know that fabbro is a really good defence prospect who is controllable for a bunch more years and will fit nicely into their top 4 when guys like ekholm or Ellis become ufa and Nashville can’t keep both. Tolvanen looks like the steal of last years draft, could even play this year once the lol season is over. In my opinion Nashville gives up 2 really good future pieces to get players that in my opinion aren’t going to put them over the top.

10 Jan 2018 00:31:44
lol ok now this is getting stupid these are both so unbelievable it hurts that you actually thought this was a good idea and please don’t comment trying to justify. This is brutal and I hope you figure it out soon lol.

10 Jan 2018 00:59:21
Your stick with Eriksson and that contract.

10 Jan 2018 01:00:40
Nashville doesn't need Tanev, stop trying to trade him there for heir top prospects.
They aren't giving you Fabbro and Tolvanen for that.

10 Jan 2018 01:54:49
Carolina has like 20 million in cap space lol they could take it and be fine lol well picking up a good prospect if nashville gets any of there top four dman injury then there not going to be so deep then guys would be playing 25 30 mins a night what well burn them out this well keep the top four around 22 min a night.

10 Jan 2018 04:40:48
Man. Tampa isn't giving up foote and a high pick to save 3 mill. Just stop.

10 Jan 2018 07:40:01
If they wanna keep Namestnikov, Vladislav and point or they can keep 2 player that's not play like they should be in the nhl and on top of that there getting a big dman upgrade and a even bigger upgrade on the wing or center.

10 Jan 2018 12:27:31
Coburn isn't as bad as your making him out to be. Tampa has about 2 mill cap space for next year right now. Sustr and Kunitz free up 4 more while being easily replaced from within (Erne/ Cirelli/ Thomas/ Cernal/ Masin) . Also 225k from Condras buried deal. So that's roughly 6 mill. Then the cap is projected to go up as much as 5 mill. So there's 11 mill for raises to Namestnikov next year. Season after that Stralman Coburn and Girardi deals done freeing up about 11 mill. that's when Kuch and Point need deals. Callahan will be in the last year of his deal and could be bought out to save another 3.5 mill if needed. Vasi needs a deal year after that. They aren't in as big of a hole as you think especially right now.

10 Jan 2018 20:20:11
Yeah this at least the third attempt of tanev to Nashville. There’s like 27-28 out of 31 teams that need some kind of upgrade in their top 4D. Why keep forcing him to one ofthe 5 or 6 who definitely do not? Lol

Pick someone, pick anyone other than like Nashville, anaheim, stlouis, Carolina.

09 Jan 2018 20:48:18
Mtl: Brent seabrook + panik+ Hartman
Chi: Max Pacioretty+ Fucale

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09 Jan 2018 21:25:16
You want this?

09 Jan 2018 22:47:20
Chicago says yes please. Thanks. Seabrook a healthy scratch tonight. $6.88M for 6 more seasons after this one. He would be great with Weber, Alzner and Petry.

09 Jan 2018 22:48:27
hell no.

10 Jan 2018 02:42:05
Chicago would need to add a first round pick at least to get rid of that Seabrook contract.

10 Jan 2018 03:39:20
Are you a Habs fan?

09 Jan 2018 20:11:56
Canuck baertschi guddy 2 rd pick or tanev and baertschi

Tor nylander or marner

Tor have to many right hand shots

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09 Jan 2018 20:26:54
Don't see why this wouldn't happen. Lol 😳.

09 Jan 2018 20:30:23
No from leafs.

09 Jan 2018 20:32:59
A franchise player for depth peices. Sounds about right.

09 Jan 2018 21:27:28
Value is bang on!
Yours trades are terribly favorinh canucks.

09 Jan 2018 21:59:39
Marner no franchise player lol.

09 Jan 2018 22:40:29
Marners a very good young player, not a franchise guy. However looking at your Canucks, if he went there, that’s what they would call him in a minute. I mean didn’t you call Kole Lind a can’t miss stud yesterday? Lol.

09 Jan 2018 22:48:12
Well . Nylander thinks Marner is better than Mathews.

09 Jan 2018 23:29:17
Not a franchise player.

And yet he has more points than everyone on Vancouver except Boeser.

Do you even hockey bruh?

09 Jan 2018 23:20:03
Kole lind deffenly a steal were they got him even jim benning said i thought he would be between 11 16.

09 Jan 2018 23:47:44
He has 1 more point then vanek if horvat wasnt injuryed he would have more and sven baertschi would be pretty close to him lol sedin are 2 point behand him lol and tornoto played 2 more games may geuss is vanek well have more point then him by the time he has played 44 game.

10 Jan 2018 00:07:08
Yes that way his not a franchise cause every team top guy as more points then him idiot.

10 Jan 2018 05:21:57
If Johnny Guadreau is a Franchise player Mitch Marner is too. Yes Guadreau is better now but for his age Marner is better.

10 Jan 2018 07:44:48
Ok nylander marner the Franchise player over mathews lmao his like a rnh but he plays the wing and marner play with better player.

10 Jan 2018 10:11:36
Yeah maybe all those things you said would happen.

Or maybe it would be like last season went Marner's 60 points were more than any Canuck.

There is not a player on the Canucks current roster the Leafs would trade Marner for other than Boeser.

School's out kiddo.

09 Jan 2018 18:06:26
If Philadelphia drops off and Simmonds ($3.975MM through 2018-19) is available at the deadline. The Flyers may not be able to afford him with Provorov, Konecny, and Sanheim along with roster spots for prospects like Frost, Allison etc. Simmonds gives a solid 2nd line goal scoring threat, PP producer, character, and toughness on a great contract.

Toronto: Lindgren, 2018 1st
Flyers: Simmonds

Tampa Bay: Katchouk, Raddysh, 2018 3rd
Flyers: Simmonds (50% retained)

Nashville: Fabbro or Tolvanen, 2018 1st
Flyers: Simmonds

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09 Jan 2018 18:16:47
I’m not aware who Lindgren is, so maybe this is why I think this, but I think the Tampa and the Nashville trades are way way more than the leafs one.
However if Tampa goes all in, Simmonds at 50% retained wow hard to not accept that.

09 Jan 2018 18:34:46
Toronto says no, as good as Simmonds is come time to renew his contract they won’t be able to afford him, also they need the puck moving right handed d man more than another right winger. Nashville also gets hosed, fabbro is a really good prospect and Tolvanen could be the steal of last years draft and a first. granted the first will be fairly low but stillNashville gives up way too much!

09 Jan 2018 18:51:04
It was Fabbro or Tolvanen but still agree with you mertle.

09 Jan 2018 19:26:25
McJesus: I tried to balance all of the trades. Lindgren is a R defenceman selected 17th overall last year.

Mertle: Wayne Simmonds is not Thomas Vanek or some other overpriced deadline clown on a UFA. He has one year left on a great contract and an excellent player to boot. It was Fabbro or Tolvanen, not both. 1 st and an A prospect is reasonable for Simmonds. Quality for quality. I actually think Hextall could ask for a bit more on each.

09 Jan 2018 20:03:19
It’s liljegren, and that’s probably fair value but makes no sense. Leafs have tons of forwards who can produce, already going to lose a big LW 30 goal man in JVR because we probably can’t afford him. If philly can’t afford him because of provorov and koneckny, what chance do leafs (Matthews, marner, nylander) Tampa (kucherov, vasilevsky) have of signing him? And teams like those going forward with guys going to get massive raises internally can’t justify giving up multiple good young cheap assets for him to walk in a year.

09 Jan 2018 20:16:00
Lindgren with Habs and Simmonds not worth their first alone.

09 Jan 2018 20:26:43
Shiza. I even looked up his name and draft ranking. My bad.

Unbiased Jim: you're correct that Toronto may not be able to afford him just like the Flyers, however, the key difference is that Toronto can actually have a shot at winning a Cup in the next two playoffs. The last time I checked, Komarov is pencilled in at 2 RW and Simmonds would be a big upgrade. Ultimately, out of the 3 teams I proposed, Toronto makes less sense than Nashville and Tampa Bay, but still logical.

09 Jan 2018 20:42:14
I dunno about both Katchouk and Raddysh. Both are great prospects. Maybe one of them and a first.

09 Jan 2018 22:25:16
My bad, didn’t catch the “or” in the Nashville trade. I agree that Simmonds is a really good player I still think it’s too much for a year and a half of him. I also think that Nashville is playing good hockey, they have a good group and sometimes it’s not a good idea to mess with team chemistry during the season. Young promising d man and centerman are more valuable than wingers. that’s just my opinion tho.

09 Jan 2018 23:47:05
I like these trades way too much so I'm going to assume they are all in favour of the Flyers.

10 Jan 2018 00:34:02
Okay yeah his name was not spelt right so I had no idea lol but ok makes more sense now.

10 Jan 2018 05:23:32
I’d want to replace Lindgren with Kappy or Connor brown Toronto needs him in the system.

10 Jan 2018 21:03:12
Komarov is only that high in the lineup because he’s kadris winger and kadris line shuts down every top line. If they’re looking for more goal scoring they have marner and nylander are clearly above komarov on the depth chart at RW, and Connor Brown scored 20 goals last year playing bottom 6 minutes and is on his way to 18+ again. That’s an option. Not trying to pick on your trade or analysis, just goal scoring and wing depth is not leafs issue at all.

 


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