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27 Sep 2019 08:24:28
To Leafs:
Pietrangelo (1-2 mill retained), 1st 2020, 2nd 2021

To Blues:
Hyman, Ceci, Bracco

Now before you start yelling at me, I am not the one who came up with this proposal. I think this is totally lopsided.

Here is the article that I retrieved this from.

Someone needs to get fired for writing such a lopsided trade, and this is coming from a leafs fan

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27 Sep 2019 11:32:16
Please explain why on earth a cup defending champs would trade down for such a sheet offer. Blues have a surplus of young wingers. Don't need to downgrade at defense. With jaybo ufa next year that 3 mil will all we need to get petro to 8 -10 mil a year he wants.


Fake news.

27 Sep 2019 12:11:14
Best part is a leaf fan in the comments saying “I could live with this deal” as if Leafs would have to think hard about it.

27 Sep 2019 12:53:12
😂🤦🏼‍♂️
Bit parts for the STL captain who also happens to be a top-pairing RHD. Absolutely ridiculous.
In other words a pretty typical leafs fan trade proposal.

27 Sep 2019 14:19:47
I know I'll be accused of being a Blues homer but I don't believe they would ever do this trade. Plus I don't think the Leafs have their 1st this season.

27 Sep 2019 15:47:56
Islandjet

That's the thing the trade is asking for blues first rnd pick. Absolutley ridic.

27 Sep 2019 16:09:35
St Louis laughs.3 avg players for their captain and draft picks? Unbelievable.

26 Sep 2019 22:35:58
Jets:Laine

MTL:Drouin,Byron,1rd2020

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26 Sep 2019 23:02:18
No way the Jets do this trade.

26 Sep 2019 23:28:29
Drouin and Byron are garbage.

27 Sep 2019 01:11:00
Look memarcusjoe we get you think all Jet plays are gods among men. But to say a 50+ player that puts up more effort then Laine and a 20+ speeder that is great on the PK as garbage is extreme even by your stakes.

27 Sep 2019 02:20:44
No CTC55 your post really shows how biased you are. To say that a barely 50 point player like Drouin, that is a team cancer and is being run off if his second team for putting in zero effort and thinking he's entitled and a 30+ year old, marginal 4th liner like Byron have much value just shows that you can't be objective if you try.

Just educate yourself on Laine's career stats against Drouin's, so you aren't so ignorant on the subject.

27 Sep 2019 12:15:55
Honestly Memarcus Byron is a great bottom 6 player I’d like to have on my team. Not saying he has a ton of value but not some scrub. Drouin wasn’t run off Tampa, he was traded at his request Tampa didn’t want to move him. He’s being run off his first team the same way Laine is. Not saying Jets take this deal but there a difference between not as good as Laine and hot garbage.

27 Sep 2019 14:51:33
I’m not talking about Laine tho Ik the proposal is weak I never said it was good enough to get him. But there is a few things to clear up
1) Drouin’s teammates and coaches have been praising his commitment to get better, never once since joining Montreal has he been a “dressing room cancer”.
2) Byron isn’t a 4th liner he is a solid middle 6 player that can go up and down your lineup and match the line he’s with saying he’s a marginal 4th liner (assuming you mean almost AHL level) shows how much you have blinders on because in the past 3 years he’s had a 20+ goal pace year and is an amazing PK specialist.

So you can rather read what someone is saying and understand when someone calls you out on value of players the example of you saying Drouin can maybe get a 7/ 8 D in a 1 for 1. Do some evaluation on the players next time. Instead of thinking any none Jets player is garbage.

27 Sep 2019 18:38:12
@memarcusjoe if you think Drouin is garbage, then you must think Little, Morrissey and Hellebuyck are garbage, because they're pretty much in the same tier of players.

26 Sep 2019 21:12:54
MTL:Drouin,Byron,1rdpick

Win:Jets

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26 Sep 2019 20:33:42
Montreal Drouin 40% retained

Edm Benning or Chaisson & Puljarrvi


Salary balance, 2 underachievers provided fresh opportunities.

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27 Sep 2019 01:12:08
I’d rather Drouin then a maybe NHL player and a few AHLers.

26 Sep 2019 18:51:13
Jonathan Drouin for Tj Brodie

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26 Sep 2019 20:05:26
Montreal is trying to dump Drouin. Julien is reported to want him gone pretty bad. He's not worth that much. But if you're happy with it. Great.

26 Sep 2019 20:31:24
Flames capped out, they can't afford to have more salary in than out.

26 Sep 2019 21:13:41
Win:Laine

MTL:Drouin, Byron,1rd2020.

26 Sep 2019 22:26:09
If Brodie had an extension, I could see this as a base. Can the Flames fit in Drouin’s contract even with subtracting Brodie?

26 Sep 2019 23:13:11
Flames have $650,000 under the cap I think now.

27 Sep 2019 08:08:23
Flames can shed Frolik to a contender

27 Sep 2019 17:09:47
To shed Frolik Flames would need to add an unprotected first to the deal. A contender wouldn't take Frolik. There's only maybe 8 teams that have the cap to take on Frolik's salary right now, and only 3 or 4 that are in rebuild mode this year that would take him to bury him to attain the first round pick to get better in the future. Jersey, Ottawa, Columbus, maybe LA would be the top runners to do this. Other than that, no one wants a player at that salary level that takes more days off than days he comes to play.

26 Sep 2019 18:06:10
to Montreal
Zucker

to Minnesota
Drouin

They both have the same cap hit and term-- Zucker probably won't improve much but is a very good player with good analytics, while Drouin is still young and has undeniable talent. Minnesota wants to get younger and add true top-end talent and Montreal seems to be done with Drouin.

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26 Sep 2019 18:50:40
No from Minny. I think they they'd rather keep the better player who shows up every game.

26 Sep 2019 22:50:55
@marcus yeah sort of like that Laine trade involving Gallagher last week Montreal would also like the guy who shows up every game.

26 Sep 2019 15:00:26
Recent report that Drouin is in the rumor mill and Habs are putting his name out there. Maybe looking for a LD?
Any thoughts?

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26 Sep 2019 15:44:31
The media has to have a scape goat I guess I mean other people haven’t look good either. besides Weber and weal the only guys who looked good were players who were not with the team last year.

26 Sep 2019 15:52:55
It's not surprising. Drouin might attract a 7/ 8 D one for one, if someone is desperate enough to take on his baggage.

Now that teams know he's on the block, Montreal can't expect very much back for him.

26 Sep 2019 16:10:58
Its ironic that you say that but completely dismiss this when it is said about Laine. pretty sure this is the same sheet WPG is going through with Laine expect Drouin is signed.

26 Sep 2019 16:28:36
It's ironic that you say that, but completely dismiss it when it is said about Drouin.

Laine is 10x the player Drouin is or ever will be.

Drouin's career year was only 3 points better than Laine's worst year when Laine played injured. Laine is 3 year's younger and has 10 less points in his career in 85 less games than Drouin. Laine scored more as an 18 year old than Drouin has ever come close to.

If Drouin isn't scoring he's worthless and he doesn't score that much. Plus Drouin is a team cancer.

26 Sep 2019 16:29:52
Didn't he have more points than Laine last season? 🤔.

26 Sep 2019 16:48:17
@ Marcus stop talking like you know anything about a players trade value lol.

26 Sep 2019 16:50:57
Nice yupp. You made yourself look like a doofus. 😄.

26 Sep 2019 17:03:39
Lol. Nahh, that's you every time you write your thoughts out then actually post them.

26 Sep 2019 17:06:10
Wait, so Drouin with more points than Laine last year is worth a 7/ 8 d man, but Laine is worth half a teams roster? Makes sense lmao. Memarcus is a clown bro xD why can’t he pull a rambo a vanish for a while?

26 Sep 2019 17:47:13
Lmao. If Laine isn't scoring he's useless and invisible you mean?

26 Sep 2019 17:52:52
I love his response to me. I didn't dismiss his evaluation of druion. He tried to flip my words on me with out a point LOL. Marcus don't you every change.

26 Sep 2019 18:03:13
I know you guys don't like comparing things on a level playing field when evaluating players. Which is why you are all so terrible at player values. But let's compare equally, even though I know you can't see past your biases.

Drouin Draft+3: 4G, 10pts, part time NHL player.

Laine Draft+3: 30G, 50pts, 110 NHL goals.

So when you evaluate with unbiased stats, it is pretty clear Drouin is garbage compared to Laine.

I await your lame brained counters.

26 Sep 2019 18:15:15
What I know about Drouin is that he has a ton of talent but at his age its disturbing that the Habs are the second team to be looking to move him. I believe that he still could be a very good player if he lands on the right team that has solid coaching and on ice leadership that can help him get the most out of his skill. I think that there will be a lot of teams that will inquire what it would take to get him out of Montreal.

26 Sep 2019 18:32:08
Memarcus dude your brutal. No one is saying Drouin is better then Laine. Not one person. The issue is you thinking he’s only worth a 7/ 8 D. And you tell everyone else they can’t evaluate players. 🤦🏻‍♀️.

26 Sep 2019 19:42:17
I was happy to see a rumor out there that we could discuss. I put the post up hoping to get some decent talks going and it goes right back to f'ing Laine within an hour.
I believe Drouin and a small add could bring in a top 4 LHD.

26 Sep 2019 20:24:25
yes but doesn't things like off ice issues. Player regression, 1 way vs two way players. or how about 1 person is currently at trainging cap and the other is not. Also one player said he wants out the other is being put on block. Tons of things go into player evaluation not just skill and previous stats. So once again you think druoin gets poo but laine gets the world. I think you need to come down on laine and come up on droiun then you have will have less sheet thrown at you for your crazy ironic evalutations.

26 Sep 2019 22:37:00
Drouin for Sergachev.

27 Sep 2019 02:43:06
Is it biased of me to use your own words against you? Riddle me this.

Zucker for drouin trade above you mention that zucker shows up every game and make it seem like drouin doesnt.

Remind you of anyone you seem to treat and value like the love child of ovechkin and selanne?

27 Sep 2019 05:02:08
Drouin for laine.

27 Sep 2019 13:17:40
Patrick Laine

Career GP = 237
G = 110
A = 74
PTS = 184

Jonathan Drouin

Career GP = 322
G = 60
A = 134
PTS = 194

So when you evaluate with unbiased stats, it is pretty clear Drouin is equal to if not better in production than Laine.

I await memarcusjoe's emotional response.

26 Sep 2019 13:40:42
To Colorado : Drouin
To Montréal: Jost and Timmins.

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26 Sep 2019 16:28:50
To much from Colorado I think Timmons should be a peice Colorado should hold on to.

26 Sep 2019 18:00:25
At first I liked it because Drouin has so much skill. But looking closer at his stats, a career high of 53 points… I agree with VB, it’s too much. Unless they think he’ll be an 80+ player with MacKinnon.

 


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