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19 Oct 2017 22:29:44
To ottawa : doughty, Duchene

To Los Angeles: turris, chlapic, Phaneuf, dzingle, barrie

To colorado : ceci, white, tofolli, dustin brown


To break it down ottawa sends Pheneuf, chlapic, and dzingle to Los Angeles for brown, and Tofoli.

Ottawa then flips brown and tofoli to Colorado with Ceci and white to get Barrie and Duchene.

Then ottawa flips Barrie along with turris to los angeles for doughty.


La needs a center now to replace Carter who likely won't be back this year, doughty wants to play with a contender which ottawa is, and Colorado gets what they want for Duchene, ottawa adds a couple pieces that could help them take the next step.

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20 Oct 2017 01:07:02
😳😳😳😳🙅🏿.

20 Oct 2017 02:04:09
What have I just read.

20 Oct 2017 05:50:15
You should probably deactivate your account after that post.

20 Oct 2017 12:11:48
La gets eaten alive.

20 Oct 2017 14:22:13
Makes sense seeing as how you're a Sens fan and given that team's inability to sell out their home barn I'm guessing you've never seen a hockey game.

20 Oct 2017 17:08:55
How do you figure the kings to be shafted TopShelfSlappers? Lmfao


They lose their top defenceman doughty, a top 6 winger tofoli, and the worst contract in the trade in brown,
and in return they pick up 2 top 55 defencemen one who can log doughty like minutes in Barrie and not look out of place, and one who can solidify their 2nd pair in Phaneuf (whos contract is more benificial than browns as it expires 2 years earlier), plus they get a center who can challenge for the top spot in turris, a top 6 winger in dzingle to take toffoli spot, and a very solid prospect in chlapic. To say kings were ripped makes you dumber than a door nob.

And the Colorado end they give up a top 6 center who wants out anyway and who's value continues to drop the more sakic drags it on, and a top 4 defenceman,
In return they get their insane asking price for Duchene in top 4 defenceman Cody Ceci who has stepped up his game so far this year as expected from a young guy with the potential he has, an elite level prospect in white, and a top 6 winger in tuffoli gets Barrie do to the sens giving so much for Duchene, Colorado also takes brown as a cap dump to make it happen cap wise but in doing so they add experience and veteran leadership.

Ottawa lands an elite level defenceman in doughty that was very well payed for and basically a left handed Kyle turris with a bit more speed in Duchene.

Anyone who knows anything about hockey can tell you this is a hockey trade three ways as it benefits all 3 teams, both ottawa and Los Angeles benefit now while colorado gets a bright future which is what they are looking for in a Duchene deal anyway.

20 Oct 2017 17:19:40
Just because some of you guys under value sens players doesn't make you right about their value. Get off you nhl video games and come back to the real world and you'd notice that real life trade values differ from that of a video game counter part. Unlike some of you guys I actually do follow the sport and don't over value players like duchene based on a ridiculas asking price by his gm or under value players turris or Phaneuf based on the team they play for or a contract they signed.

I actually do my homework on players which is more than I can say for you lot. This is why I always place in top 10 of any hockey pools I join.

20 Oct 2017 17:24:01
And stinks I've been to plenty games and for the record the sens don't need to sell out to out sell the majority of the league. Top 4 in last year's playoffs, ottawa was number 1 in ticket sales out selling even a sold out pitsberg arena. So take that comment and leave it in the trash with the rest of the dirt coming out of your mouth.

20 Oct 2017 19:51:56
You definitely under value Toffoli. Easy no from LA for sure.

20 Oct 2017 20:17:51
I dunno senskill, I don't see how they outsell a full capacity penguins game when their stadium seats almost 2400 people less than pittsburghs, but I'm sure you have your own proof in your head of that. Also senators had almost 3000 empty seats for game 6 of the east final last year. That's embarrassing no matter how you slice it.

20 Oct 2017 22:08:31
Also I appreciate irony as much as the next guy and when someone calls someone else "Dummer than a door nob", not knowin himself that there's a silent K in knob, it makes me smile. Good on a Friday. Thanks senskill.

21 Oct 2017 00:22:39
i wouldn't be calling the breakdowns as players being "flipped" moreso than a straight up huge 3 team trade.

21 Oct 2017 00:57:47
Oh nice I was just wandering what I need more than anything, and a grammar lesson from someone who actually believes ottawa was out sold in ticket sales in last year's final 4 when it was actually proven they were number 1 of the 4 is just what the doctor ordered unbiasedjim.

21 Oct 2017 01:04:45
Would you trade Karlsson and Hoffman for Jeff Carter, Tyson Barrie, Tanner Pearson, Adrian Kempe and a 1st?

21 Oct 2017 01:05:44
For someone with unbiased in his user name you certainly over value certain players like tuffoli and Duchene while not giving other players, specifically sens players like turris, Phaneuf, dzingle, Ceci, and Ryan, the credit they deserve. You constantly bad mouth them based on stupidity rather than actually looking up their stats and history, or watching them play more than just 1 game. Every player might suck the odd game, that don't mean they are going to suck all the time.

21 Oct 2017 01:27:46
Duchene and turris have identical stats, histories, and in game performances in roughly the same number of games and Duchene played with better line mates for half of that time period yet a number of you somehow seem to think he's still worth more than turris. Not true.

Doughty is great yes and tuffoli is streaky at best, sort of like a poor man's Bobby ryan, add the 5 year contract of Dustin Brown to lower the value of that package and sending back turris a top 6 center at worst, Phaneuf a solid 3-4 defenceman to make up browns bad contract with one that is 2 years shorter, Barrie a proven top 4 defenceman who can log top 2 minutes, chlapic who is a top 3 or 4 prospect in ottawas system with a ton of potential, and dzingle is not that far off what tuffoli can do anyway.

Duchene worth a bit more than tuffoli, Barrie worth a bit more than Ceci, but adding white 2nd best prospect in Ottawa's system and highly sought over by other teams in the league, and the contract, leadership, and experience of Dustin Brown to the mix and it balances out.

21 Oct 2017 01:46:43
Wow you really are delusional af.

21 Oct 2017 01:54:42
Englander that's nowhere close to the same value I mentioned.

Sure doughty And karlsson are roughly the same value, but Hoffman out values tuffoli anyday due to greater point totals and consistency, Barrie in both deals cancels himself out, Pearson and dzingle are roughly the same, Phaneuf far more valuable than clempe, chlapic = a 1st round pick, while turris > carter for a number of reasons not including points per game totals as that roughly equal but rather age for instance, turris in his prime while Carter is much older and bound to go on the decline in the next couple years, plus he just suffered a season ending injury.

21 Oct 2017 08:29:00
Facelift39 lmao I'm delusional?

At least I can back my trade proposals up with cold hard facts stemming straight from nhl. com and backed with full stats and player historys as well as putting a proper value on top prospects rather than basing their value solely on the number of nhl games they've played.

Guys like you can easily make claims that my proposals are no good and that I'm delususional because of them but the fact is you guys can't back up what you're putting out there while I can with support from nhl official web site.

You continually say my trades are bad but you can't offer 1 reason why to back up your claims because you know they're not bad. Sure the odd 1 every once in a while could use some twerking but not all of them and certainly not this one.

21 Oct 2017 12:09:56
Phaneuf is the same in value as Brown. Look what Toronto took to give him to you. A 2nd, a guy shipped for Pickard and three cap dumps. His value has also dropped significantly since.

As well, we don't undervalue Dzingel and Chlapik. We just think that they are both much worse than anything else. They are the two worst assetts (apart from Brown) in The deal.

21 Oct 2017 13:51:25
Okay no Kempe>>>>Phaneuf. Phaneuf has no value and proved that when they tried to trade him away and there was no takers. And Turris is a pending UFA I’ll take carter over him anyday UFA or not.

21 Oct 2017 15:22:54
I assume I'm the guy you mean who claims to be unbiased but over values toffoli and Duchene and never once have I talked about toffoli or his value, nor am I a fan of Colorado or LA. I am as confused by that almost as much as every one of your posts. Carry on.

21 Oct 2017 15:30:06
LOL. I'm with Lindss on this one.

And yes, you're insanely delusional Senskill. It's not even funny.

21 Oct 2017 15:36:10
I've also never bad mouthed turris, Hoffman, certainly not Karlsson. I also watch quite a few senators games, 5-6 a year vs the leafs (was 8 till a cpl years ago) and a few others from time to time if I see it on. I was a guy that defended phaneuf against haters for years when he was a leaf and still like him as a player and as a guy, just makes too much money, which isn't his fault at all. Blame leafs management for giving it to him, and sens management for taking it on.

You are so defensive that you will make up what other people say to make them seem like the bad guy when in reality, as the comments from everyone that isn't you on this thread shows, you're out to lunch on player evaluations. I would like you to find where I bad mouthed any senator player.

Leafs traded phaneuf for a 2nd round pick, a C level prospect and 3 cap dumps to the sens. And you said you could move his 4 years at 7 mill straight up for James Neal. let's figure out who overvalues his own teams assets while diminishing others. Once James Neal arrives in Ottawa you will say he's a former 40 goal scorer on a good contract and 'flip' him for doughty. But kings wil have to add a small incentive because doughty has an extra year at more money, right?

21 Oct 2017 15:36:30
"This is why I place top 10 in any hockey pools I join"
LMAO! Nomination for quote of the year right there.

Cold hard facts? Your players values are coming off your OPINIONS. Dude. And you're WAY off its crazy.
You embarrass yourself bro. They ARE bad. Very very very bad! Constantly BAD! Lol!

21 Oct 2017 15:42:28
Just read too that you said browns bad contract brings down the value of toffoli and doughty in the package coming to the sens. but then when you flip him to Colorado, his 'leadership and experience' is all of a sudden an asset LOL come on man. The contract gets better and his attributes go up in the 15 minutes he's a senator? Of course they do.

22 Oct 2017 18:47:33
Chlapic and dzingle the lowest value in the trade? Lmfao clearly you're the delusional one if you actually believe that topshelfslapper lol

Dzingles rookie season sees him land top 6 minutes in a number of games and 32 points in 80 games as well as being regarded as one of the fastest players in the league while chlapic is an easy B+/ A- prospect at this point and proved he can hang in this year's preseason.

19 Oct 2017 22:30:42
Mtl) Galchenyuk + Danault + Gallagher + 2x2d
Min) Granlund + Staal + Rielly + maybe Zucker but IDK if u guys already think than this is one sided for Mtl

Wild

Chucky Koivu Gallagher
Foligno/ Zucker Danault Stewart
Ennis Erikson Ek Kunin

Mtl) 1 60-65 pts + 2 45 pts + 2d
For
Min) 2 60 pts + top 6 young D + 40-50 pts

Mtl

Patch Drouin Granlund
Zucker? Staal Lehkonen
Hudon Plekanec Shaw

Mete Weber
Alzner Rielly
Davidson Petry

For the 2d and 3d D ... I'm trying to bring balance...

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20 Oct 2017 00:31:33
I personally it’s one sided rn. As a habs what’s the panick. Were 7 games in. The boys need to figure out the chemistry. And if Bergevin does trade Chucky it’s going to be a package for a big name player.

20 Oct 2017 12:13:10
Granlund>>>>>Chucky
Staal>>Danault (evidenced by his play last year)

Zucker.

19 Oct 2017 22:00:59
So Carter is most likely out for the season meaning the kings will most likely need to replace him if they hope to make playoffs.

To ottawa : doughty, duchesne

To Los Angeles : turris, phaneuf, chlapic,1st round pick, barrie.

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19 Oct 2017 22:09:10
how bout Galchenyuk + 1st for Karlson + a guy from another team coming from nearly nowhere

Keep it up!

19 Oct 2017 22:14:39
Wtf is this? Where did barrie and Duchene come from? Either way it's garbage.

19 Oct 2017 22:30:32
Clicked to fast not the full post.

19 Oct 2017 22:38:22
Oh god. And I don't even want to know what Colorado gets. These type of deals just don't happen. This is a complete dream world.

19 Oct 2017 23:22:17
i said before if you think your sens are that good keep them.

20 Oct 2017 01:05:03
Don't bother posting the rest. This is atrocious.

20 Oct 2017 17:27:53
Full trade is above clicked by accident on this one.

19 Oct 2017 15:12:28
To Carolina: Galchenyuk + 1st + fucale

To mtl: Faulk (+ conditional pick-maybe)

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19 Oct 2017 16:38:17
Man you Habs fans are making yourself look bad the last month or so on here. Embarrassing the things you guys post. Like, honestly.

19 Oct 2017 17:40:58
Its going to take much more than a guy whos trade value has become abysmal (Galchenyuk, due to his diminished role) and a struggling AHL goalie to get a top pairing dman. Try again.

19 Oct 2017 17:41:42
My initial instinct is to say hell no because I am so down on what galchenyuk is to offer and fucale is still an echl goalie which the canes have 2 better prospects than already. But that first, if not lottery protected is looking like it could be a svechnikov or dahlin pick. However it's too early to bank on that. If habs are still terrible by the deadline, canes might take a chance on a lottery pick plus galchenyuk.

20 Oct 2017 04:00:32
Habs better jus keep the damn pick.

20 Oct 2017 18:35:26
So, Carolina, who will be in playoff contention this season, are willing to give up a top notch defenseman. I don't think so.
Maybe for a #1 Centre, which Mtl doesn't have.

19 Oct 2017 15:10:52
To wings: hemsky+ McCarron

To mtl:Mike Green

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19 Oct 2017 17:41:47
Washed up fourth liner and a possible career fourth liner for a dman who is his teams MVP at the moment? hell no from wings.

19 Oct 2017 17:50:11
Don't see how this helps wings. They're trying to get younger and faster. Hensley will just be a roster filler and McCaron is a big slow winger/ center who can still play in the nhl but not really ideal for today's game. Someone will offer s decent prospect and a pick for green later. Pieces that help wings a lot more.

20 Oct 2017 14:04:30
I doubt the wings do that one, they'll get a better return at the deadline.

19 Oct 2017 15:06:49
To Arizona: Galchenyuk +DeLaRose


To mtl: Duclair+Schenn+4th

Line mtl=
Pacioretty Drouin Duclair
Lehkonen Danault Gallagher
Byron. Plekanec Hudon
Deslauriers Shaw. Hemsky

(Mitchel)

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19 Oct 2017 17:42:39
This one ain't too bad. i'd value Galchenyuk a little more than Duclair, but Schenn>>DeLaRose. Takr out the fourth and its even imo.

19 Oct 2017 22:11:52
What no from Mtl.

21 Oct 2017 08:27:32
I'm usually the downer on galchenyuk trade value but this is one instance I will say hell no from habs. Not only do they get ripped off, but last thing they need is a big slow Dman in schenn to go with that already immobile D core.

19 Oct 2017 02:35:43
Mtl) Zetterberg + 2d
Det) Danault

This is honestly fair IMO

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19 Oct 2017 04:11:16
are you high?

19 Oct 2017 05:32:29
In your biased opinion**

Wings laugh at you.

19 Oct 2017 06:29:22
That’s hilarious that you think it’s fair hahahahahaha.

19 Oct 2017 07:05:48
Would rather keep Danault. he's a decent player. could get 8 good years out of him as a servicable 3rd liner. Yes Zetterberg is still the better player. but he's almost done. and really, he's not the answer in Montreal. why bring in a classy Vet to finish his career in such a mess.

19 Oct 2017 15:18:21
Mtl need Danault, young, from Quebec and he is only at his second years has a mtl.

19 Oct 2017 17:45:36
Zeterburg will always be better than Danault ever will be. @sosa, i mean, by that logic i'd rather have a guy like Connor Carrick than Zdeno chara, because carrick can play eight years as a third pairing guy, and chara will be one-two years more and then will retire. No. i'd rather have Chara. in the same way, even taking in age and contract,

zett>>>>danalut.

19 Oct 2017 22:30:07
Just because he’s the better player like Sosa said doesn’t mean it’s the right direction for the team. But I got to say Sosa if it’s just going to cost Danault habs should probably do it. Lol.

20 Oct 2017 04:06:44
Honestly TSS and Ebs. what is Zetterberg going to do at this stage. Yes. he is, and will always be the better player. But. , he's not going to be the guy that can fix the mess in Montreal. I like Danault. he is what he is. not a star. But could be a bottom 6 guy on team for years to come. yes. teams need bottom 6 as well. can't all be top 6.
If Detroit is going to trade Zetterberg. let the classy vet go to a contender. not a mess.

19 Oct 2017 02:34:13
3 Team trade

Mtl) Monahan
Calgary) Duchene + Andrighetto
Col) Galchenyuk

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19 Oct 2017 04:11:44
no from colorado.

19 Oct 2017 05:34:00
No from Calgary.
No from Colorado
HELL FUKIN YES from Montreal.

Galchenyuk for Monahan? What in the actual F.

19 Oct 2017 06:50:23
Oh please! Haha. Not a friggin chance.

19 Oct 2017 08:48:16
Okay so MTL basically gets Monahan straight up for Galchenyuk? Lol, didn't need your name to tell which team you're a fan of.

19 Oct 2017 13:02:52
Has to be a troll job now. No one can think avs take that. And no one can believe monahan and galchenyuk are close to equal.

19 Oct 2017 16:39:38
The amount of disagrees on the comments just shows how delusional Habs fans are on here lately. It's absolutely nuts.

19 Oct 2017 02:28:50
Mtl) Juulsen
Tor) Kapanen

The thing is that Juulsen is unproven... so i don't know

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19 Oct 2017 08:48:50
On the one side, Juulsen is unproven. On the other side, we've got long time NHL veteran Kapanen. oh wait.

19 Oct 2017 13:35:51
Closest thing you have posted but if leafs are trading kapanen I assume it would be as part of a pkg for a better Dman. Rosen, borgman, dermott, Nielsen are all in the same boat as juulsen. Young guys with potential but no experience. Then add liljegren to it who has a ton of potential. Doesn't make sense to lose forward depth for a guy no better than 4-5 guys already trying to find a spot.

18 Oct 2017 18:25:02
Calgary trades
• Mikael Backlund
• Jusso Valimaki
• Ty Parsons
• First Round Pick

New York trades
• John Tavares

2nd Trade:

Calgary trades
• Sam Bennett
• Rasmus Andersson
• Troy Brouwer
• Maybe Kulak?

Colorado trades
• Matt Duchene


Projected Lines

John Gaudreau - John Tavares - Curtis Lazar
Matt Tkachuk - Matt Duchene - Michael Frolik
Kris Versteeg - Sean Monahan - Jaromir Jagr
Tanner Glass - Matt Stajan - Micheal Ferland

Mark Giordano - Dougie Hamilton
TJ Brodie - Travis Hamonic
Matt Bartkowski - Michael Stone

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18 Oct 2017 19:33:34
Hahahaha! 😂😂😂.

18 Oct 2017 20:28:38
Monahan making almost 7 mill as your third line center? Johnny hockey makes almost 8 I believe, Duchene at 6 and Tavares at 5.75 then he gets 10+ or walks. it's not the NBA where it's a soft cap and you can build super teams. Tkachuk will need a hefty raise in a year too long.

18 Oct 2017 21:34:28
Any package for Tavares would start with Monahan.

19 Oct 2017 02:53:40
I could agree to that Xcing however I believe they are clost in value so it started at Monahan and pretty much ends they're. Maybe a small add? Don't forget Monahan is 4 years younger and almost as good as Tavares. YES John is still ahead in terms of leadership and he is a franchise player. But age is a factor jn my opinion.

19 Oct 2017 05:35:33
Drinking booze is also a factor in your opinions. Usually happens a lot before you say them. Lol
I apologize if you actually do have a drinking problem.

 


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