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18 Jul 2018 21:50:13
WPG: Trouba, Little
VAN: Horvat, Juolevi

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18 Jul 2018 23:02:18
The Jets would be giving up a #1 right shot d-man and a #2 center for Horvat, a good center who would be in a fight with Roslovic for the Jets #2 center and Joulevi a good prospect may be ready this season. I can't see the Jets doing this trade.

19 Jul 2018 00:22:09
Nope. We can't afford the huge downgrade at D for the small upgrade, if that, at C.

19 Jul 2018 00:31:27
My god. Vancouver laughs.

19 Jul 2018 04:25:01
Easy no from Vancouver.

19 Jul 2018 18:06:29
Horvat would fight Rosolovic for the 2c spot more like Horvat would step in with Swagger taking that 2c spot and Challenging Schifele for the 1c.

19 Jul 2018 19:04:32
Ha ha ha. A center with a best season of 52 points is going to challenge Scheifele!

That is certainly a great way to let everyone here know not to take you seriously as you clearly don't understand hockey.

19 Jul 2018 21:50:20
Horvat would not be battling roslovic for a spot lol equally funny tho is saying he would be challenging scheifele.

20 Jul 2018 14:34:12
Obviously he’s not going to battle a top 10 c I’m just saying he’s “ MUCH “ closer to Schifele then Rosvolic he can’t tie Horvats skates.

18 Jul 2018 21:48:33
WPG: Trouba, Little, Petan
PHI: Gostisbehere, Patrick

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18 Jul 2018 22:54:34
This trade could be doable but the Jets would have to be patient with Patrick as he has been rushed into the NHL before he was really ready. Trouba is much better defensively than Gostisbehere who is superior offensively. Both teams win and lose so its a good proposal.

19 Jul 2018 00:23:48
No. The Jets don't need another offensive D man at the cost of a defensive D man.

19 Jul 2018 00:25:26
Okay so Little and Petan have basically no value ( late first packaged ) so Ghost ( the better player) for Trouba and you’re getting Patrick for free. Just to put in perspective for the three major fan bases on this site as a defencman Ghost ( 65 points ) out produced Nylander ( 61 points ), Ehlers ( 60 Points ) and came close to oilers franchise phenomenon/ super star 2nd best player in the planet Leon Draisaitl ( only 5 more Points with 70 )

19 Jul 2018 00:31:49
Holy Fluk. You haven't gotten one close. Not even a little.

19 Jul 2018 01:02:06
Yeah that's a huge no. Patrick and ghost lol.

19 Jul 2018 04:30:39
What are you saying lol no from Philly bruh 🙄.

19 Jul 2018 08:26:08
No from Philly and it's not close.
Ghost > Trouba
Patrick >>> Little and Petan.

19 Jul 2018 11:38:17
You cantactually say Patrick is better than proven leaders, point scorers. Yes he has a massive ceiling and is still young, but so did aki berg. Value wise, it's a no from both teams, your losing 2 key players from a contender for 2 players who haven't proven they can win in the playoffs. And Patrick would probably only be traded for a high ceiling offensive talent since he is purely a cheaper/ less skilled version of Matthews, with a couple more years of development.

19 Jul 2018 11:43:47
Lol. You're a sad little man VBB. Always throwing random little jabs in at the Oilers. Get over yourself man. Why are you so butt hurt all the time you need to take shots on oilers players when they have absolutely nothing to do with the post.

19 Jul 2018 14:15:43
I was just putting his value in perspective lol.

20 Jul 2018 16:12:26
Not really sure how you can compare Patrick to Mathews two completely different types of players.

18 Jul 2018 21:46:46
WPG: Trouba, Little
ARZ: Keller, Crouse

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18 Jul 2018 23:09:34
Trouba and Little are 2 proven players while Keller is a very good young center but Crouse is a prospect that is 1/ 2 years away. Jets would want a proven 2nd pairing d-man to even out this trade.

19 Jul 2018 00:28:24
No again. Keller is a good player, so I don't see why AZ would move him and for Crouse. The Jets don't need to give up assets for wingers. We have more than can fit on the big club as it is.

19 Jul 2018 01:02:20
Keller is not getting traded.

18 Jul 2018 21:15:47
What dose calargry need to trade for superstar prospect dmytro timashov? He's going to better than Mathews and marner. I know, I played fetch with his best friends cousins dog once.

Calargry
Monahan
1st 2019
Bennett

Leafs
Timashov
7th 2019

Bennett is a bust and has nagative value.

Then
Leafs
Carrick
3rd 2019

Saint Louis
Paryanko

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19 Jul 2018 01:03:25
Monogamous for the deal come on

Seriously parayko for that. This is hilarious.

19 Jul 2018 04:26:46
Hahaha omg.

19 Jul 2018 06:35:51
Redwing bruhhhh look at the name bud.

19 Jul 2018 08:28:11
Lmao the funny and kinda sad thing is vb is just a kid and he's triggered buddy so much to go out and make a new account and took time out of his day to make a joke prosposal.

19 Jul 2018 11:44:26
Too funny.

19 Jul 2018 14:18:11
Hilarious offers leafs would never trade Timoshov.

19 Jul 2018 14:26:47
This is definitely Barrie/ 2707 I also don’t see how I overvalue players on the leafs aside from Marner. Timoshov has looked decent on the marlies but he has zero value to almost any team and Carrick is worthless any team can have him.

20 Jul 2018 15:03:02
Calargry adds and nobody’s even heard of Paryanko, who’s level of stupidity were we talking about?

18 Jul 2018 19:40:48
WPG: Trouba
TOR: Marner

I've heard some people from Toronto and they'd embrace this trade. From Winnipeg standpoint I don't like it nor will it help them.

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18 Jul 2018 19:51:00
I wouldn’t do it from leafs. Marner isn’t going anywhere unless as a package for a superstar Dman like if doughty was available.

Nylander could be shopped for D but it would have to be a perfect fit for age and cap hit to make it work. If trouba came with a reasonable contract, then sure. But jets are offering. $4 mill and he’s asking $7 mill. That’s a negotiation I would t want to have here.

18 Jul 2018 20:35:30
Trouba is asking for 7 mil per year that’s ridiculous.

18 Jul 2018 20:40:33
Value wise, this is at least in the right ballpark. Has Marner played much as a C? The Jets would definitely prefer a C if Trouba is traded for a forward.

18 Jul 2018 20:59:58
I disagree with your notion that people from Toronto will embrace that trade. Frankly, I think most of them would tell you to get stuffed.

18 Jul 2018 21:05:43
Yeah. Bob McKenzie said on 1050 a few weeks ago (leading up to July 1st) that he heard from people close tot he jets that Trouba started at 8x8. When Carlson got 8x8 and OEL got 8x8.25, Trouba came down a bit. But his official ask in arbitration is $7 mill.

18 Jul 2018 22:25:21
Wpeg-sheffelie
Mtrl-petry Like same trade marner-truba.

18 Jul 2018 22:50:49
Marner=Liane. Rielly>Trouba. Rielly for Liane?

18 Jul 2018 23:12:44
Trouba would be the Leafs top d-man while Marner would make the Jets forwards very deep. I can't see the Jets trading Trouba for a forward, even one as good as Marner.

19 Jul 2018 06:36:44
Vb you’re an actual person if you think Marner is equivalent to Laine oh my goodness boi.

19 Jul 2018 11:45:31
W. T. F. Marner = Laine? Lmao. Delusional homer there. Watch he'll back peddle on that comment somehow.

19 Jul 2018 13:44:47
Marner is not worth laine, because laine does the hardest thing to do (score goals) better than almost everyone in the league.

But if it’s allowed to be said that trouba >> Rielly as these brutal homer jets fans think, then I’m okay with hearing Marner=Laine haha.

19 Jul 2018 14:22:11
Marner is WAY better at producing at even strength. Liane is ridiculous on the PP tho. I’m contradicting my self here but I’d rather have Liane. Marner can carry a line better tho Liane is often invisible for long stretches ( 5v5 ) where as Marner is more consistent.

20 Jul 2018 01:03:39
Marner is pretty overrated on this site, same as trouba so think it's fairly even, fits Toronto's needs but not Winnipegs.

18 Jul 2018 17:16:37
TB Trades:
- Mikhail Sergachev
- Ryan Callahan
- Tyler Johnson
- Taylor Raddysh
- 2020 1st Round Pick

OTT Trades:
- Erik Karlsson
- Zack Smith
- Bobby Ryan

NYR Trade:
- Matt Beleskey
- 2019 4th Round Pick



TB Acquires:
- Erik Karlsson
- Zack Smith
- Matt Beleskey

OTT Acquires:
- Mikhail Sergachev
- Tyler Johnson
- 2019 4th Round Pick

NYR Acquires:
- Bobby Ryan
- Ryan Callahan
- Taylor Raddysh
- 2020 1st Round Pick.

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18 Jul 2018 17:52:23
Sens fans are not going to like this lol Rambo and crazyattack will tell you that smith and Ryan are both better than Johnson.

18 Jul 2018 18:01:27
Id do it as Tampa. Not sure NYR are willing to take Ryan, or that Johnson would waive his NTC for OTT.

18 Jul 2018 19:23:30
Lol i'd figure so@UBJ.

My main reason for this is to kinda show the offset of value that Ryan might bring into a trade. Without Ryan, Ottawa could probably get more for EK, but with him, a third partty would get the addins (Raddysh and the 1st) . The Rangers basically give up nothing to take on two cap dumps which can be afforded, and they get another 1st and Raddysh. Ottawa gets the main piece in Serg and a decent C to replace Brassard.

And good to hear @JB. Was assuming that it may be a lot from TB’s perspective, but good to hesr that it sounds decent.

18 Jul 2018 21:27:10
I mean. It is a lot. But its both getting Erik Karlsson and dumping Callahan. Its not going to be all that cheap and the pieces involved I can live with and have kinda already come to terms with those pieces having to go to pull this off.

19 Jul 2018 10:02:34
I think it is a lot. Also what do we want with Beleskey and Smith?

19 Jul 2018 13:18:38
Smith would adequately fill a third line role and fill in top 6 (were losing Johnson and Cally here and are already relying on rookies in bottom 6 this year) . Actually one of the reasons i'm more comfortable giving up what they are here. Beleskey is 2 mill. You can bury a chunk of it in the minors or maybe throw him on 4th line. If you got to take him back to make the trade happen its not a deal breaker imo.

19 Jul 2018 14:19:09
@triplets, other teams are taking guys they aren’t overly excited about to make the deal work. Bolts are getting the best player by a long shot, have to compromise too. Downgrading a guy in your middle 6 to get Karlsson is an easy yes for anyone to see.

18 Jul 2018 12:45:54
to Ottawa: Sergachev, Cirelli, Raddysh, 1st (TBL)


to Tampa: Karlsson (signed for 8 years/88 million)


to New Jersey: Coburn, Johnson, Högberg, 3rd (OTT), 2nd (TBL)

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18 Jul 2018 13:20:09
Wait Jersey gives nothing and gets a second third and Johnson? The third is enough for one year of Coburn lol.

18 Jul 2018 13:37:19
Well, you're right lol. Maybe switch Johnson with Callahan? Or would Jersey need to get more if they take on Callahan?

18 Jul 2018 14:16:41
Wow. This might be one of the worst Karlsson proposals yet.
Sergachev, Carelli, Raddysh, 1st, 2nd, Coburn, Johnson

For Karlsson?

Do You actually think yzerman is an idiot?

18 Jul 2018 14:38:19
1. it's for Karlsson and to get rid of salary
2. why should Ottawa take less?
3. after rethinking my proposal, adding Johnson is too much. you could also take Cirelli/ Raddysh out of the deal or the 1st from Tampa.
4. No I actually don't think Stevie is an idiot.

18 Jul 2018 16:04:28
In my opinion its a bit too much (mainly with what Jersey is getting) and Coburn is all the salary they need to dump this year. Could send Coburn somewhere and then worry about next years cap issues later with Johnson Killorn Callahan all options to move. I also feel Karlsson extension in Tampa may be under 11 but wouldn't be by much and i wouldn't be surprised by 11.

18 Jul 2018 16:59:25
I still don’t know why New Jersey is involved in this lol.

20 Jul 2018 14:40:28
I actually don't mind this 1 at all. finally found someone on here outside myself and 2 others who no longer post because of the foolish posts and responses you see, who has a decent sense of trade value.

17 Jul 2018 20:29:46
MON: Pacioretty
CHI: Boqvist, 2nd Round Pick 2019

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17 Jul 2018 21:57:01
Hahahahahahahaha oh man. No from Chicago.

18 Jul 2018 03:22:59
no. hell no from chicago. are you drunk? take out the second and add from there from montreal if you want boqvist.

18 Jul 2018 05:39:49
Whoever thinks Chicago should take this should re-evaluate themselves lol.

18 Jul 2018 12:07:54
Add from mtl? You are kidding. pacioretty. who in last 5 yrs has more goals than kessel. , neal or van reimsdyk for a guy no one knows?

18 Jul 2018 12:54:49
@Balsam. Boqvist was just drafted 8th overall and at seasons end in April, he was ranked #9 on the ISS draft rankings. At the same time, kotkaniemi was ranked 18th. So would you trade him and a pick for a 1 year of an almost 30 year old coming off an awful year?! Because 2 months ago, no one besides really informed people knew him either.

18 Jul 2018 14:18:33
Balsam is the Montreal Rambo. Maybe when you don’t know who the players are in a trade proposal, you should keep your comments to yourself.

17 Jul 2018 20:28:00
OTT: Karlsson
TB: Sergachev, Raddysh, Joseph

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17 Jul 2018 21:58:04
Yes from Ottawa on this one.

18 Jul 2018 01:48:59
I would really like Cirelli . but at this point Sergachev + is a win.

18 Jul 2018 10:02:32
Lul this a terrible trade proposal Sergachev, raddysh is a good start though.

20 Jul 2018 15:05:39
No from Ottawa, Tampa adds huge.

17 Jul 2018 20:26:28
If Trouba doesn't sign long term in WPG.

WPG: Trouba
TOR: Rielly

Or

WPG: Trouba, Perreault
CLB: Jones

Or

WPG: Trouba
DET: Zadina

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17 Jul 2018 21:14:21
I don't really seeing any of those 3 teams parting with any of the proposed players for Trouba. especially Columbus .

17 Jul 2018 22:31:21
Ohh my god not even close for Jones. Schifele for Jones is fair.

18 Jul 2018 00:45:06
Wow. Tor, CLB, Det laugh at you. Especially CLB.

18 Jul 2018 01:28:52
None of these trades really improve either team as they give up a good player to get a good player which is addition by subtraction.

18 Jul 2018 02:38:58
islandjet, what? The Jets improve with every trade and are clear winners in them too.
The Jets upgrade big time in the CLB trade. Improve overall in the Tor trade trading from a position of strength (RHD) for a LHD. And Zadina I would honestly say has more value and upside to Trouba even tho he's a winger he has great great potential. If you want Zadina it's going to cost Trouba + IMO.

CLB laughs at Winnipeg if they offered that for Jones.

18 Jul 2018 12:58:20
Trading Rielly for Trouba just pushes our weak side to left instead of right without actually getting better. Add in the fact that trouba is a hard negotiation and apparently looking for $8mlll and Rielly is locked up for $5 mill and it’s a very very easy no.

18 Jul 2018 13:59:29
For the Toronto trade the Jets would rather keep their top pairing shut down D.

I doubt CLB would want Perreault as an add.

For Zadina, the Jets don't need wingers, so he would be an add not the main piece.

18 Jul 2018 14:19:30
Wow. Jets fans here are delusional.

18 Jul 2018 14:25:40
“Zadina would be an add”

Did I just hear that right? Zadina was consensus top3 pick, just MTL, OTT and ARZ are dumb. He’s not an addin. Trouba doesn’t get you him.

And Trouba doesn’t get Mo either. Rielly has outperformed Trouba too.

And CBJ laughs at you.

18 Jul 2018 14:25:59
Count on Marcus to make 3 trades that favour the jets look like the jets are doing teams a favour lol

Jets are going to have a bad cap problem, worse than the leafs. They have more depth of RHD and want LHD and yet trading a good RHD for a good LHD of the same age making $5 mill ($2-3 mill less than trouba demands) is somehow a negative?! Lol okay man, you’re right!

18 Jul 2018 16:33:15
Jim, you are correct that the Jets would be doing the other teams a favour in two of the trades.

I know fans have a fascination with shiny, new toys, but NHL GM's think realistically, so one magic bean is not going to land a top pairing D man, especially when that bean is a winger that the team has no need of.

Leaf fans are on here constantly begging for Trouba, because of their poor defense. Reilly is a rover with little defensive ability, so you are correct TO would have to add to him to get Trouba as we already have a better rover.

So, you can whine all you want but you know without doubt Trouba would be the Leafs #1 D man by a good margin.

18 Jul 2018 17:28:01
Okay lol I would trade Rielly straight up for Trouba. He has indicated he doesn’t want to be in a Canadian market before, he’s been a contract hold out before and his arbitration filing asked for $7 mill. Rielly likes Toronto, actually thrives with the pressure and attention that comes with it, is great with media and is as good of player as Trouba who is signed for $5mill. Easily more valuable.

18 Jul 2018 17:54:14
Wouldn’t trade*.

18 Jul 2018 18:15:20
Of course you wouldn't trade Reilly straight up for Trouba because you know the Jets would not accept the downgrade without compensation. So, it would be pointless to try. Reilly demonstrated in the playoffs that playing above a #3D is a stretch for him.

18 Jul 2018 19:53:00
Lmao such a Jets homer. Wow.

18 Jul 2018 21:11:41
Tor does not laugh. Trouba is better all around than Rielly.

18 Jul 2018 22:00:07
He knows he’s out to lunch on this. Just in to deep to admit it lol Anyone that has watched Rielly and Trouba play will tell you that they’re both really good players, but neither are real game breakers yet that separate themselves from each others company. So then look at age: they’re the same. So then what else weighs into a players trade value? contract status. And that goes to Rielly by a mile (4x5mill) vs free agent and looking for $7-8 mill depending on term.

18 Jul 2018 22:38:56
Reilly is good but way over-hyped by the Toronto Media Monster. He would be a fantastic #2 left shot d-man but he isn't a shut down defender as he plays soft and still makes too many mistakes. Trouba always plays against the other teams #1 line and penalty kill. He isn't perfect but is a young, physical, very good right shot d-man.

19 Jul 2018 02:37:21
I'd rather have Rielly over Trouba. Trouba being overvalued by WPG fans here heavily. Also he has trouble staying healthy.

20 Jul 2018 15:01:28
I think leafs would be interested in Trouba but trading Rielly just opens another hole. Then Gardner is your number 1ld.

Maybe something like a package with garner could do it. Dermott could move up or Hainsey is naturally a ld.

Gardner pickard/ sparks and 3rd

Trouba


Win can use a ld and garner put up 50 points last year hast some value. The goalie is just organizational depth.

 


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