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07 Mar 2019 23:18:32
Edmonton Trades
Lucic
Benning

Toronto Trades
CBrown
Zaitsev
Horton

With this Trade the Leafs save 4million in Summer Cap Space, yes Horton can be put on LTIR but not until the Season starts and with Marner as well as AJohnsson and Kapanen having to be resigned the Leafs don't want to play out a WNylander replay with any of those key RFAs, I believe Lucic on a line with Tavares and Marner will bring Lucic back to being a Top 6, it just hasn't worked in Edmonton, and Hyman moving down to the Bottom 6 just makes a stronger forward group, Benning just adds to improving the Defense until the 2 Swedish Kids are ready, for Edmonton they have wanted CBrown and Zaitsev isn't a bad Defenceman just has a bad Contract, and because the Oilers won't be players for any UFAs having the Horton Contract for only one more Season won't hurt them for the Cap.

Thoughts ?

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08 Mar 2019 05:19:31
F no from oil dude.

08 Mar 2019 11:37:32
HEll nah from Toronto, Zaitsevs abysmal but I don’t want/ need Lucic’s slow a** anywhere on this team. I’m not going to exaggerate, but Toronto IS NOT the right fir him. Sure Benning/ Brown is a wash, but I’d easily, easily easily take a RHD on a bad contract than a slow LW on a bad contract. Horton is relatively nothing, he could easily be packaged w a 2nd/ 3rd to a bottom feeder like OTT.

08 Mar 2019 15:13:28
How come I don't read analyst saying it’s urgent we trade Horton? Is it because he’s permanent LTIR maybe? So his salary don’t count toward cap anyway?

08 Mar 2019 21:19:30
Like Pinball said he counts towards the cap until the season starts so it’s a big obstacle for a team about to sign 2 guys to 10+ contracts.

09 Mar 2019 05:54:59
Anyone who says oilers don’t take this is an idiot you can put Horton on LTIR. You can’t put Lucic on the LTIR. 40% of Beer league players are better then Lucic it must be a conspiracy he’s in the nhl he can’t skate he basically has to crawl around on the ice and hope McDavid banks one in off of him. You could add the oilers next 5 years of 1st round picks and no team would take Lucic unless buying him out.

Maybe Seabrook for Drais And Lucic gets him off the oilers.

09 Mar 2019 18:29:26
vbbb are you sure you are not exaggerating a little maybe?

09 Mar 2019 21:46:42
Vb was dropped on his head.

10 Mar 2019 02:22:47
@Ebsolutely

I got this right front CapFriendly. It comes straight from the CBA:

“Can LTIR be used in the off-season?
Yes, LTIR can be used in the off-season while the 10% off-season cushion is active. LTIR in the off-season is calculated using the basic equation outlined above, which permits a team to exceed the off-season salary cap. To use off-season LTIR the team must provide doctors proof that the player in question will continue to be injured at the beginning of the regular season for 10 NHL games and 24 calendar days. ”

Hortons contract don’t ever count toward salary cap, so we don’t need to trade him.

10 Mar 2019 20:00:08
Is that what that means? Lol if so, I didn’t know that. So really no point in having Horton in a trade. No from Toronto I’d say.

05 Mar 2019 11:43:50
Mtl: Primeau, 5rd2019

NYI: Dal Colle

Not an offseason trade but we can't use him for playoffs.

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05 Mar 2019 22:14:01
No thanks we will need a goalie before we need dal colle.

05 Mar 2019 23:22:07
If islanders really need a goalie then i'm sure they consider since Dal Colle sucks.

06 Mar 2019 00:38:42
No thnx from montreal lol.

06 Mar 2019 14:42:14
Dal Colle isn't looking like a bust. so is McCarron for Habs. flip those two guys. See if a change will help with their careers.

06 Mar 2019 21:22:46
Meant to say is looking.

06 Mar 2019 21:26:12
Dal colle looks good at time he's looking like Puljujarvi tbh.

07 Mar 2019 15:05:28
well puljujarvi is two years younger and has never played in north america before, dal colle sucks and clearly is a wasted draft pick at #5. when puljujarvi is 22 we will see where he's at and then we can compare.

08 Mar 2019 15:17:30
DalColle was developed too slowly. They should have played him AHL earlier instead of leaving him in junior so long.

09 Mar 2019 18:21:37
Zamboni they couldn’t he was ineligible to play in the ahl. He hadn’t reached the eligibility and when he did he was brought in.

10 Mar 2019 02:30:16
You got to think the potential is still there. He obviously has a lot of talent. Maybe Islanders can make a trade similar to the Strome deal?

Why was he ineligible for AHL CTC55?

10 Mar 2019 15:49:41
For a North American skater in the CHL cannot play in the AHL till he reaches a season in which he is 20 years of age or he has played 4 seasons in the CHL before hand.

10 Mar 2019 23:11:48
Interesting. I had no idea about that rule. Any idea why that is?

03 Mar 2019 18:01:11
Offseason trade:

Devils:
-Will Butcher (RFA)
-2019 2nd rd. pick (via BOS)

Canucks:
-Olli Juolevi

Devils get a bigger body to put on their d-core; Nucks get the more established player

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03 Mar 2019 20:09:58
I personally don’t think Juolevi can get that in return. Too much. Butcher’s a 40 point dman and that looks like it’ll be a high 2nd, Juolevi is not that good imo and from what I’ve heard from people who’ve played against him. Soft.

03 Mar 2019 20:27:45
^why would boston's 2nd be high? do you know something we don't.

03 Mar 2019 20:36:27
No from Van, I don’t think we should give up on Juolevi yet, he had a great start to the year before his injury. It’s a good idea though.

04 Mar 2019 01:08:11
My bad pav didn’t realize it was Boston’s, in that case, still no from New Jersey.

08 Mar 2019 15:19:30
Juolevi is no good and now he’s hurt. Why waste assets on someone that may never even play nhl full time. If anything the pick goes to Jersey. And they still say no.

02 Mar 2019 17:10:04
Nick Paul to Arizona for a 2018 6th.

Deals can still be made after the deadline, just the players can’t play in the playoffs. Arizona has had putrid luck with injuries, Paul could be a stopgap if anything happens, and Ottawa gets something for a guy that they waived. If ARZ makes the playoffs, likely, some of their guys come back and Paul isn’t even needed.

Idk, we haven’t seen many ‘subsequent-deadline’ deals even tho they can happen, maybe a small deal like this happens for teams like ARZ or even TOR with a dman - just for the stretch run.

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02 Mar 2019 17:43:23
But. Paul is a B prospect that can headline a trade for a top 6 forward or top 4 D. Worth at least a 2nd no matter what everyone but Rambo says.

02 Mar 2019 19:52:17
Holy, I was just reading through past posts and I saw that loool. I was going to go with a guy like Christopher Ehn, or Paul or something else, but chose Paul to see what Rambo had to say.

02 Mar 2019 20:04:04
so paul for last year's 6th round pick? who did arizona pick in 2018 in the 6th round? i'm pretty sure you mean 2019 6th round. even then i think paul could get a 4th or 5th.

08 Mar 2019 15:24:26
Paul is big. But that is all he is. Arizona can draft big AHL players themselves. They just prefer do it first round is all.

01 Mar 2019 20:12:59
A way to solve some issues for the oilers!
Now, the issues, especially cap issues, will take more than one season.
However, possible ways:
First:
Oilers: Pullyarvi + Lucic + Russel + 1st Rd Pick 2020
Sens: Pageau
Sens babe cap room and are rebuilding. They get Pullyarvi (4th overall pick) . He needs a new start and has a lot of potential. Also, they get a first pick 2020.
Sens could use Russel. He could play on 2nd pairing and help the young defence core grow and take on the hard minutes.
His cap is $4m, but his salary is much less for the next 2 seasons.
This is enticing to the Sens management.

Second:
Oilers: Benning
Leafs: Brown
Rumour that this could have happened, so this is a possibility for the summer.

Third:
Oilers: Yamamoto + 2nd Rd Pick 2019 + prospect (maybe)
Canes: Hamilton
Canes looking for forwards and oilers looking for right hand defenceman. It seems like canes want to trade Hamilton. Rumours!

Resign Khaira, Chaison, Cave, and Gravel

Free agents:
Goalie: Mzarek or Kinkaid (1 yr)
3rd pairing defence: Sbisa or Lovejoy or Sustr (1 yr)

Line up:
RNH (6) - McDavid (12.5) - Brown (2.1)
Ehlers (6) - Draistal (8.5) - Gagner (3.15)
Khaira (1.5) - Pageau (3.1) - Chaison (1.5)
Currie (750)- Cave (750) - Kassian (1.9)
Brodziak (1.1) - Marody (750)

Klefbom (4.2) - Larson (4.2)
Sekera (5.5) - Hamilton (5.75)
Sbisa (1.5) - Jones or Bear (650)
Gravel (750)

Koskinen (4.5)
Mzarek or Kinkaid (1.5)

Buyouts:
Pouliot (1.3) and Gryba (300)

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01 Mar 2019 22:27:42
man you took all this effort to make this post yet you call puljujarvi pullyarvi lol.

01 Mar 2019 22:29:32
you also completely didn't write out the nurse +++++ for ehlers as i'm assuming that's what you came up with. since ehlers is in the lineup and nurse isnt.

01 Mar 2019 22:50:30
How did you get ehlers?

02 Mar 2019 00:24:28
HOw did you gets ehlers.

02 Mar 2019 01:30:58
1) where does ehlers come from in the line up?
2) ottawa would have to add something else
3) toronto trade is close, i can see it
4) carolina could prob get better package, and i don't see edmonton giving up on yamamoto this early.

02 Mar 2019 02:29:29
Pullyarvi 😂.

02 Mar 2019 02:31:56
No from oilers, yes from oilers as previously discussed would be nice, no from oil because realistically we won’t havw room or cap for Hamilton as Russell and Lucic won’t be traded away at the same time I think oilers try hard to move atleast one of them this off season. As for goalies I’d like mzarek as I used to be high on him. No to both signings.

02 Mar 2019 03:53:55
Ehlers for Nurse. If not ehlers, could be nylander.

Now, the whole reason I proposed that trade to Ottawa is to create cap space.

04 Mar 2019 01:25:08
Not a chance that package gets you D Hamilton. CAR paid 2 legit young NHL players who were both very high (5th OA) draft picks to get him from CGY. They’ll want a couple of sure things to get him, not just a decent prospect and a 2nd. Maybe if u add RNH otherwise you guys don’t have the scorers they’d want.

04 Mar 2019 05:49:10
That sens trade is a hell no unless Edmonton takes smith instead of pageau.

05 Mar 2019 21:08:31
Rambo how can somebody become so biased?

28 Feb 2019 14:57:24
2 Draft Day Trade Proposals.

Carolina Trades
DHamilton
6th Round Pick 2019 (Flames Pick)

Toronto Trades
Kadri
4th Round Pick 2019 (Blues Pick)

Canes will be looking to get better at Centre and Kadri is at worst a #2 Centre with Carolina, with all the depth at Defense with HFleury, Bean, Fox and McKeown moving DHamilton makes sense.

Like the Canes on the opposite side the Leafs need that RHanded Shooting Defenceman that will fit in nicely with Toronto, the Leafs are still strong down the middle with WNylander as a full time Centre and Bracco probably ready for a full time NHL spot on RWing.

Edmonton Trades
Benning

Toronto Trades
CBrown
Holl

Edmonton will be looking for Wingers and CBrown and McDavid in the OHL lit it up when they played together, maybe that magic returns in Edmonton and if it does its a steal for the Oilers.

Leafs will be looking to strengthen the Right Side of the Defense and Benning like DHamilton will fit in with the Leafs, my guess is both Gardiner and Hainsey walk and Rosen comes in as a cheaper solution on the Left Side, but these 2 Trade Proposals helps the Defense.

Thoughts ?

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28 Feb 2019 15:32:34
If Toronto wants a 25 year old RHD for Kadri they better add a first rd pick and B+ prospect.

28 Feb 2019 18:00:19
highly disagree boomboom.

01 Mar 2019 02:54:30
Yea that package isn’t anywhere close to getting DHamilton. 3rd line C and a slightly higher pick for a top pair right shot D? No chance.

01 Mar 2019 14:24:36
A 3rd line center that put up over 30 goals and 55+ points in consecutive years playing 3rd line minutes with some pp time. yeah I don’t think kadri would be a third line center on the Hurricanes. Unless hurricanes aquire 2 more centres that put up better numbers than kadri he’d be no less than a 2nd line center possibly 1st in carolina and if carolina wants/ needs offence than its definatley worth considering. I don’t think it makes sense for the leafs however, I’m sure they’d rather a more defensive d man than offensive minded hamilton.

01 Mar 2019 15:03:43
Hamilton’s contract is too short. Maybe if there was more time left. Hamilton also has no guts and is overrated. The value is there, but Leafs pass.

01 Mar 2019 15:03:53
The only reason he is 3rd line is because Toronto has two superstars ahead of him, why can't you morons realize just because the line you play on doesn't mean you're a ____liner. Kadri is a very capable #2 center.

01 Mar 2019 20:23:54
There was a couple people last year calling Marner a 4th liner last year because he was demoted for a week or two. Not looking much like a 4th liner now. Kadri is #2 center on many teams in the nhl.

03 Mar 2019 15:26:54
Hamilton, just like Faulk is way overated on this site. Gardiner who many deem as garbage was better stats than both the last 2-3 years.

05 Mar 2019 21:09:16
Atm Hamilton is very underrated just because he's not having the greatest season does not mean he's not a top 2 Defencemem on 60% of nhl teams.

06 Mar 2019 12:49:55
Boom boom, he is not a top 2 dman. I know my opinion is unpopular but he is far from solid defensively and offensively is as streaky as it gets. Same as Faulk, overated.

07 Mar 2019 11:19:25
On Toronto he's the best Dman atm. Reilly is really good but Hamilton is just having a down year, when Reillly will be 25 he might have a bad year too and it won't mean he's not top 2 anymore.

07 Mar 2019 16:00:30
no he is not better than Reilly. On Toronto Hamilton is top 2 solely because of having no good RHD. Sorry my opinion is different than yours and I am not basing my opinion solely on this year. I have watched him since coming into the league and I am not impressed at all. Just my opinion though as I have said all along. Maybe he gets traded to the Habs and you could find out for yourself.

28 Feb 2019 09:13:05
Oilers trade: sekera, Puljujarvi, Benson, 2nd round pick 2019

Wild trade: Zucker, Spurgeon


Oilers trade: Nuge, Yamamoto, Reider, 3rd round pick 2020

Blue jackets trade: Jenner, Anderson, Milano


Zucker Mcdavid Rattie
Lucic Draisaitl Anderson
Milano Jenner Gagner
Khaira broziak Kassian

Nurse Spurgeon
Kelfbom Larsson
Russell Benning

Koskinen


Are these almost fair at least?

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28 Feb 2019 11:08:24
As long as Koskinen is #1 goalie they're should be no future mortgaging deals for Edmonton. This team needs a rebuild at everypostion except center.

28 Feb 2019 17:20:03
The wild trade is one of the worst I've seen on here. i know they have been getting ripped off on trades lately but not to the point where they would even consider this.

01 Mar 2019 15:09:11
I think we are better off keeping RNH right now. Nothing wrong with Jenner, but Milano sucks and is probably never going to make the nhl full time, and Anderson isn’t worth taking a downgrade at center and losing all those other guys, including a very recent 1st rd pick.

01 Mar 2019 15:12:33
i mean if minny wants to keep trading for younger players (besides sekera) that works but honestly no from oilers we don't got the cap for those two player. Pool we just got to hope recovers from hisn surgery quickly and can train all summer and benson could be a player one day, looks great in the A as a rookie.

28 Feb 2019 09:12:00
Off season

Mtl: 3rd pick

Clb: Panarin

Mtl gets early conversation going to try and convince him to sign to a 9.9 million deal for 7 years

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28 Feb 2019 15:00:03
well that will be a waste of a 3rd lol.

28 Feb 2019 15:00:50
and 9.9 lol man he's going to make like 5mil if he took that in montreal due to their taxes.

28 Feb 2019 19:01:20
He might sign in Florida for 9.9 mil it would have to be 12 mil in Montreal.

28 Feb 2019 20:34:14
I don’t think Paniran is worth more the Mark Stone. Extremely close but not more.

01 Mar 2019 15:16:39
Panarin wouldn’t have any interest in playing in Montreal.

There’s a lot of free agents available this year. It’s a buyer’s market. Prices might be pushed down just due to the overwhelming amount of high quality players available. It would be nice to see salaries come back to reality after being pushed up so much the last couple years.

27 Feb 2019 16:10:09
read an article that included fixing the oilers forwards and they had some trades in there that i'd like to share to hear some opinions:

oil: Nurse + rights to Marino (NCAA)
jets: Ehlers
Reasoning is if jets lose Myers and trouba they will need a guy there and nurse could be a great fit there while on a good cap hit

oil: Lucic + 2020 1st round pick
sens: Pageau
Ottawa will be brutal again and will need to hit the cap floor, after lucic is paid his bonus on july 1 he can be traded with a tiny bit more value and he can easily be flipped at the deadline if Ott retains

oil: Benning
leafs: Brown
so just like mcjesus posted. if leafs lose gardiner they could take a gamble on low cost and young dman and then oilers get a good 3rd liner they could use.

These are the lines mentioned in the article after the trades:

Ehlers-Mcdavid-Yamamoto
Nuge-Drat-Puljujarvi
Brown-Pageau-Gagner
Khaira-Brodziak/ cave-Kassian/ Chaisson

Obviously some of these players need to be resigned and in the article they were. But ya thoughts on the three trades?

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27 Feb 2019 16:52:30
I can't see the Oilers trading Nurse as they have a very poor defense and can't afford to get rid of one of their top 2 players. Its time to dump the deadwood and perenial losers in favor of a draft and develop philosophy. This might take 3 to 4 years in order to make them a serious threat.

27 Feb 2019 17:16:34
I think that EDM needs Nurse more than Ehlers and I think Pageau is worth more than a 1st and Lucic. Just my 2 cents.

27 Feb 2019 17:38:41
i agree islandjet we definitely should not trade nurse as we don't have that depth (well we kinda do for LHD now) but i don't want to trade him as in a couple years sekera and russell will be gone. and turkey i 100% disagree with you. he is a 30 point player (5 pt in 21 games this year) and is a 3rd line center at his peak (not that this is a bad peak) . Ottawa is now confirmed to be years away until they will be in playoff contention and loading up with another 1st round will help as well as needing lucic's contract for them to have enough cap. and like i/ article said, ottawa can flip lucic and retain some of his contract and that will give him a huge boost in value. But that's just my 2 cents as well! thanks for sharing your opinions.

27 Feb 2019 18:54:37
I can see how that improves their offence, but that would make their defence brutal unless they are hoping guys like jones and bear step up huge or sign some top defensemen in free agency.
yes from ottawa for sure, toronto i'd say would ask for small add. jets trade is close but i don't see them getting rid of ehlers for that.

27 Feb 2019 20:42:07
I could be wrong, but i like the way Pageau was playing a few years ago, i think he is in a rut with Ottawa and could benefit another team greatly. Maybe it is enough. I hope Pageau does get traded though because i think he has good potential with a better team.

28 Feb 2019 09:09:46
Hahahaha, Ottawa won't take lucic for only a 1st maybe a top 5 pick but that's it enjoy lucic he's on pace for 15 points lol.

28 Feb 2019 15:02:01
Turkey i think he's a solid 3rd line center but ya he's having a down year can't blame him too much and he's also missed a lot of games to so that sucks for him.

28 Feb 2019 20:37:08
Lucic would never return value even at a free cap hit.

01 Mar 2019 02:59:55
Haha. “Lucic easily flipped “. Then why haven’t the Oilers already “easily” traded him? Also, Lucic has a NTC or NMC. I don’t see him waving to go to the Sens.

01 Mar 2019 15:20:40
Taking in Lucic would handicap Ottawa. After their ELC’s run out, all the guys they drafted the last couple years, plus all the guys they will draft this year and next year, will be hard to fit under the cap with Lucic still on the payroll.

01 Mar 2019 19:23:39
LMFAO huge no from Ottawa, pageau staying put.

Maybe if it were Lucic a 2nd and a 1st for smith you be a lot closer but even then.

27 Feb 2019 05:27:13
Based off a rumor:

Oil: Benning

Leafs: Brown.

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27 Feb 2019 15:32:02
from what i read to (most likely same thing), i believe oilers offered kassian for brown but then leafs countered with brown for benning or khaira and then that's when it fell through. i'm surprised oilers wouldn't have done the benning deal, but then again gretz said he didn't want to trade away petro for nothing so we have another dman if injuries arise. Could be a summer trade.

27 Feb 2019 16:15:50
Leafs wanted pick aswell that's where it went off the rails.

27 Feb 2019 18:06:46
Mike, a pick along with who from the oilers? if you know.

27 Feb 2019 18:19:06
I think brown and benning was the main part but leafs wanted a pick to do that they like brown a lot but word is they also like that big winger kaira or whatever his name is.
I would not be surprised to see a brown benning deal in the summer makes a lot of sense for the oilers look at brown and mcdavid numbers together in jr so for a little cost I think it's worth the chance to see if they could form that again.

28 Feb 2019 09:08:37
Nah @MJ from what I saw, apperantky this was the Oilers original offer, and the Leafs declined it. Talks became something like Brown+++ for Larsson after (I read this on IG/ Twitter, don’t shoot the messenger😂)

28 Feb 2019 10:54:52
Lol Brown+++ for Larson. Brown was worth something when he went in the corners and played a tough game. Now he dosnt do so anymore and plays soft ( that's coming from a huge leafs fan at work that was making fun of me when mtl loss to Toronto on Saturday lol)

28 Feb 2019 11:44:22
Lol @boom i was in awe when i saw it myself, my personal vaulation is a third or like a Matt Benning type.

28 Feb 2019 15:24:39
Topshelf, i saw that tweet and bob stauffer (oilers main media guy i listen to) said not at any point during discussions was larsson brought up and the guy who leaked that is a bruins guy media haha. The only way oilers would trade larsson to toronto is for nylander or kapanen + but oilers would need to equal out the cap.

28 Feb 2019 21:29:46
Ohhh yeah makes more sense @N, was j crazy to hear it.

01 Mar 2019 15:24:44
I think we could really use Brown, but I have doubts Leafs would want Benning when they are only trading Brown to free up cap space. They already have enough defensemen in the minors ready to play in the nhl. They don’t need another depth guy. They need a top line guy.

 


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