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02 Jul 2020 15:27:13
Tor: Ellis Arvidsson
Nash: Nylander Dermott

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02 Jul 2020 16:00:14
It would depend on how Nashville values arvidsson, but the leafs might need to add a bit.

02 Jul 2020 17:16:28
Yeah that is a firm no from Nashville.

02 Jul 2020 18:05:33
Maybe like if it was Tolvanen who seems to need a new setting instead of Arvidsson then maybe Nashville would consider it if the leafs added like Kerfoot or something.

02 Jul 2020 19:21:16
That maybe gets Ellis alone, no way with Arvy even tho he’s coming off a down year.

02 Jul 2020 21:31:24
No from Nashville. Even as Nylander>Arvidsson, the gap between Ellis and Dermott is much larger.

03 Jul 2020 10:28:16
I'm not sure the gap is that big for the wingers. They can both produce, arvidsson is 3 years older but only makes 4.25/ year. That's great value. I would rather nylander on my team normally, but to save 2.5/ year, I might like viktor.

05 Jul 2020 04:57:45
Yeah. But most of Nylanders contract has already been paid. His cap hit remains at seven but his actually salary owed is much less. I don't remember how much less but it's a lot lower as Toronto has already paid out forty percent of Nylanders salary.

Would Dubas be willing to take a player over thirty years old signed to a long term contract? I don't think so. I think Ellis is a great player, but that contract will be a boat anchor by the time it's done.

02 Jul 2020 11:23:43
CBJ

Alex Wennberg

Ryan Murray


TML

William Nylander


And CBJ gets Lafreniere


Nylander - Dubois - Nyquist

Bjorkstrand - Texier - Atkinson

Foligno - Grigorenko - Bemström

Jenner - Shore - Anderson


Werenski - Jones

Gavrikov - Savard

Nutivaara - Harrington


Merzlikins

Korpisalo.

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02 Jul 2020 14:11:35
Why would the leafs do this. This is awful.

02 Jul 2020 14:41:40
Leafs hard pass. Wennberg is basically a cap dump at this point and no way does Murray make up the value to get Nylander from Toronto. He is LHD anyway, not RHD.

Hard pass from Toronto.

05 Jul 2020 05:01:53
Exchange Murray for Job NES and it's a lot closer. Maybe now you can argue that Columbus won't do it. But it's a lot closer still than what is posted.

02 Jul 2020 03:20:38
MTL
Mete
Evans

TB
Point

TB gets younger/cheaper and probably better on the blue line. Evans still promising prospect.
MTL get a 1C Put him on a line with Domi and Drouin. Fast line.
MTL May have to add tho. !?

But just reminder of the Hall and Larsson trade. Star forward for a nothing more than solid defence man.
I think I'd rather have Mete than Larsson. Even though Larsson has better reach for a defending.

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02 Jul 2020 06:41:05
C'mon, poor Habs getting creamed. TB adds Hedman, Kucherov, Cirelli, Sergachev and a couple 1sts. Then Montreal MAYBE considers.

02 Jul 2020 13:16:43
Not even close - TB wouldn't even consider. And MTL doesn't have the assets to get Point.

02 Jul 2020 14:12:14
Is this a joke?

02 Jul 2020 15:29:41
Sure . let's do it up! Lol.
Not a chance this would ever happen. be great if it did.

02 Jul 2020 18:31:38
Lol wtf is this.

02 Jul 2020 19:21:59
Habs don’t have the assets to trade for Point.

03 Jul 2020 14:53:40
Almost as bad as the the above proposal.

05 Jul 2020 05:19:14
I mean, Point had a down year. Twenty five goals and a point a game player is still a great player, but it's a real let down from the previous years success that saw him score over forty goals and over ninety points. So you can argue somewhat that his value might be lower. This season was more in line with his first year. Last year was a abberation and not representative of his long term outlook. But even so, a twenty five to thirty goal scorer that averages a point a game playing centre is still much more valuable than what's offered here.

Maybe if it was a package that actually included another centre coming back to replace Point it might have more chops. A package built around Suzuki, along with say Poehling or Caufield, plus Primeau and a decenseman, oh say Mete or Brook, plus Alzners contract to balance salaries. Then I could maybe see Tampa consider it.

02 Jul 2020 02:30:17
TBA : 1st overall 2020

OTT : 5th overall 2020, NYI 1st 2020, Dal 2nd 2020, Conditional 1st in 2021 (becomes SJS 2nd 2021 and CBJ 2nd 2021 if either Ottawa makes lottery again in 2021 or NYI 1st in 2020 becomes top 15)

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02 Jul 2020 14:02:05
When the 1st Overall is a Franchise Player like Lafreniere you don't trade it, so whoever is lucky enough to get this year's 1st Overall will not be trading it.

04 Jul 2020 18:59:24
Pinballisback if you're a team that don't necessarily need him and can get a package like this in a draft as deep as this one you don't think twice and accept it before it's off the table.

The 5th can get you 1 of Drysdale, Rossi, Raymond, or Perfetti.

The Isles pick if top 15 can get you 1 of Askarov, Lundell, Quinn, Sanderson, Jarvis, Zary, Lapierre, Mercer, or Gunler. If isles go deep you still get a shot at some of them plus Barron.

The Dallas 2nd gives you a shot at guys like Chromiak, Foerster, Nybeck, Wallinder, or Villeneuve


Then you also get either the 1st or two 2nds next year on top of that depending on conditions.

I'm sorry but even if Lafreniere were deemed better than McDavid at his age, that's STILL an overpayment and a must say yes deal for any play in team. Only Detroit, Anaheim, or Montreal I can see saying no due to their team situations. Everyone else saying no would be stupid to say the least.

01 Jul 2020 21:07:49
After tornament

Mtl- domi-mete

Buff- ristolanen-girgenson

Habs sign kovalchuk 2.5M/ year sith bonus

Habs sign reaves 2year 2.5M

Habs sign talbot 2year 2.5M


Tatar-suzuki-kovalchuk
Drouin-danault-gallagher
Lekhonen-girgenson-armia
Byron-evans-reaves

Ristolanen-weber
Romanov-petry
Chiarot-fleurykulak

Price-talbot

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02 Jul 2020 01:07:58
Idk I'd mete for risto helps the habs, but domi is the better forward by a bunch, and can play centre better too.

02 Jul 2020 03:31:53
Reaves re-signed with Vegas I think.

01 Jul 2020 17:31:40
Kapanen for Savard/Manson
**Savard comes with extension**
U choose

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01 Jul 2020 18:13:02
Pass on both, they both had off years and seem to be on the decline. Would rather target someone younger like Roy or Montour who could still play a defensive role beside Reilly.

02 Jul 2020 01:10:23
That's what you go after with kapanen, is a good defender on a down year. Kapanen is not a hot shot winger, If you can get a 2nd pairing defenseman for him, you go for it.

02 Jul 2020 14:45:41
Manson and Savard are 3rd pairing defenceman at best though that’s the thing. And honestly imo Holl is better then both of them.

Holl almost had the same amount of points as those two combined. He is much better defensively and he is younger and going to be on a great contract for the next 2 years.

When you give up a young player, you either expect to get an older guy who is much better, or you expect another young player to be coming your way. That just simply isn’t happening with these trades.

01 Jul 2020 14:59:25
This one is for vb

Matthews 50% retained for Parayko.
Marner 50% retained for Montour
Nylander for Roy

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01 Jul 2020 16:20:37
That’s just silly lol

Value wise I’d say this is what’d it’d take from respective teams

Mathews for Paryanko, Robert Thomas and Alexander Steen ( cap )

Marner for Ristolainen, Rienhart and 1st

Matt Roy for Timothy Liligeren and 2nd 2020 or Nick Robertson

Not saying other teams do those deals but that’s what those players are worth imo.

01 Jul 2020 16:59:23
Ya Dubas is right on that today
Lol.

01 Jul 2020 19:48:40
Honestly I think if it was the 2nd round pick, the leafs would actually do the Matt Roy one. If it was Robertson though I don’t think they would go for it because we don’t really have to many decent forward prospects in the system at the moment. Maybe like Abruzze and Abramov but that’s basically it.

01 Jul 2020 20:50:10
@vb I think it would be more of Kapanen for Roy, no? I'd think Robertson might be a bit too much, but I'd agree that Roy>>Dermott.

02 Jul 2020 14:13:56
The thing is a rebuilding Kings wouldn’t be as interested in a player in his prime.

01 Jul 2020 07:11:18
San Jose Sharks:

Tomas Hertl

Ryan Merkley

1st Round Pick 2021

Jonathan Dahlen


Buffalo Sabres:

Jack Eichel.

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