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06 Nov 2018 11:04:09

Min:Erikson Ek

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06 Nov 2018 17:59:56
Plekanec can’t get in the habs lineup. He’s a cap dump now that minny wouldn’t want and adds no value, probably takes away value from Scherbak. I don’t know if minny does just the swap of the 2 young guys, probably not, but definitely not once you add in plek. Also, not sure, but I would have thought plek got a NTC? Maybe not, just usually a guy with that history in an organization gets some say in his future at this point in his career.

06 Nov 2018 21:30:26
Plekanec is injured jim that's why he hasn't been playing. he's actually the same player that got a 2nd and two prospects at the deadline last year. Only difference he's got a cheaper contract this year.

06 Nov 2018 21:28:28
Fair enough Jim and no on the NTC.

06 Nov 2018 23:51:08
Was he not healthy scratched off the start? I’m positive he was, could be wrong but saw a habs game earlier that he wasn’t dressed fit and wasn’t hurt.

06 Nov 2018 23:58:30
Just looked, he was scratched for 3 of the first 6 games, hurt now, okay I didn’t know about that, but how many times has he been scratched in the last cpl years? I don’t think that makes him the same player if he wasn’t cracking that lineup to start. I like plek, was happy to get him last year, he had a few good game mixed with a lot of lacklustre ones once he came over. Wasn’t the same player for us that I remember him with the habs, but figured maybe his heart just wasn’t in it the same understandably. But then being benched back in Montreal tells me he’s not the same player he was a year ago. Doesn’t that make sense?

07 Nov 2018 13:57:05
It does but the plan at the beginning of the season was for him to sit out the first game so he would play his 1000th game at home. But the habs played such a good game against the leafs that they went with the same lineup. He got back into the lineup and would still be playing now if he didn't get injured.

07 Nov 2018 13:58:53
I don't think he was scratched at all last year.

07 Nov 2018 13:59:06
But back to the original point he has very little if any trade value at this point of the season if he can get back from his injury he might fetch another pick at the deadline to a team looking to upgrade their 4th line center position and penalty kill.

07 Nov 2018 14:35:22
Yeah. Just to a team like minny who have lots of veterans and not a lot of money, I don’t see his value. If you wanted to send him there, in that situation, I think he almost takes value away from Scherbak is what I was saying.

07 Nov 2018 23:18:28
Jim I agree with u it makes sense I still think he can give good service to a team in the nhl.

07 Nov 2018 23:44:24
Tbh I'm not really sure if scherbak has any value ATM if he doesn't soon start dominating some ahl games he could be the next waiver dump for the habs.

08 Nov 2018 03:00:49
@boomboom, probably to some teams, sure. He’s seen a lot in his days and could help a young team like what the leafs did bringing in hainsey/ Moore and Kinda Marleau although he’s in a bit different class at this point. Just the wild have Suter, parise, koivu, Staal, fehr, Hendricks etc. No need for a veteran like plek there.

06 Nov 2018 10:05:37
Toronto Trades: William Nylander (RW [Extension] - 7.500 Million x 7 Years) + Andreas Borgman (0.925 Million x 1 Year) + 2020 3rd Round Draft Selection.
Carolina Trades: Jaccob Slavin (LD - 5.300 Million x 7 Years) + Valentin Zykov (LW - 0.675 Million x 2 Years)

Just like Jones/ Johansen, Sergachev/ Drouin, Larsson/ Hall, I feel as though the only way Nylander gets traded is for ONE excellent piece, and other minor throw-ins from both ends. Jones/ Johansen and Larsson/ Hall were both straight up, Serg/ Drouin had some picks here and there, but its mainly player for player.
I feel as though Pesce simply isn't that number one dman that Toronto could need. If we're trading Nylander, I don't want Pesce + Ferland + X Forward, etc. It should be a straight swap imo. Zykov/ Borgman are simply included for positional depth lost. Slavin, although on the left side, is a solid shutdown dman, who would compliment Rielly well if Rielly played the opposite side.
As for Nylander, he'd be able to play 1C or RW on Carolina, and would be able to thrive as the big name in a market which can afford to pay him.

Carolina Lineup:
Teravainen - Nylander - Aho
Foegele - Staal - Williams
Ferland - Wallmark - Svechnikov
McGinn - Roy - Martinook

De Haan - Hamilton
van Riemsdyk - Pesce
Fleury - Faulk

Toronto Lineup:
Marleau - Matthews - Kapanen
Hyman - Tavares - Marner
Zykov - Kadri - Brown
Johnsson - Lindholm - Leivo

Slavin - Rielly
Gardiner - Zaitsev
Dermott - Hainsey.

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06 Nov 2018 11:12:31
The way Reilly has played this year and last, he’s not the one playing the opposite side. The shutdown dman moves sides. Anyways, value wise doesn’t seem too far off.

06 Nov 2018 12:16:02
I don’t think it’s great value wise for Carolina tbh. Nylander is great as a winger hasn’t really proven himself as an NHL center and that’s a large contract. Slavin is just as good or better on the back end with a much nicer contract. Even if they are equal talent wise Slavin gets more value from contract and position. I also like Zykov a lot more than Borgman but that’s more personal preference I’m sure.

06 Nov 2018 12:38:51
There’s a lot to like about Slavin. But the thing I like most about him is his contract. If Carolina would make this trade, Leafs would be foolish not to take it. Slavin would be amazing on the team, and would be our replacement for Reilly in a few years when we are forced to trade him because we can’t afford to re-sign him.

Not sure Zykov would be the throw in. He was AHL player of the year last year and looks good so far on a hot Carolina team. They likely want to keep him.

06 Nov 2018 16:27:30
Nylander isn't going to get you a #1 deman, 7-8 million for 20 and 60 points playing with 1 of top players in the league, think leafs take a loss on this one, or let him sit until he's being more reasonable.

06 Nov 2018 17:55:46
Even with Pesce not being that number one D man you want, Are you expecting to get one for wider Nylander?
The rumor is Carolina is willing to part with one of Pesce or Faulk. Because they are both right handed and also have Hamilton on the right side. So they can afford to trade one of those three right handed guys. Not their best left handed guy Slavin. Slavin has more value than Nylander. Come on buddy you're smarter than this.

06 Nov 2018 17:53:59
Lol. Then you want a hot Carolina team to insert this winger hold out into their top line center?
Their top line of Ferland - Aho - Taraveinen are doing fantastic together. 😳😳.

06 Nov 2018 21:14:35
Slavin is closer in value to Mathews then Nylander. Most underrated player in the NHL by far. Slavin>Vlasic.

06 Nov 2018 21:59:10
Assumed this would be the reaction. I personally didn't think Nylander would come close to Slavin, but after Friedman himself said that Ghost + Simmonds for Ny + Gardiner is close [In his books, not an actual proposal or rumor, someone suggested it on an nhl. com video and he said he actually liked the idea], I felt as though we may be undervaluing Nylander.

But the contract dispute 100% discounts Nylander's value. It'll be interesting to see what he'd either get in terms of money from Toronto, or his value on the trade market.

07 Nov 2018 00:15:22

Slavin is closer to Matthews than Nylander? HAHAHA. Not a chance.

Slavin’s a damn good player, sure, but not without his faults: He’s not exactly outstanding either offensively or defensively. He’s not a heavy hitter, can’t fight, has difficulty clearing the net, and is a real pussy for a guy his size. He’s the same age as Rielly and has barely played half the amount of games. He’s a top 50 defenseman in the game, but not top 20.

Slavin doesn’t get you anywhere close to a player of Matthews caliber, and a player of Nylander’s capability is closer to reality. Leafs have to add, sure. But this trade is not ao far fetched. The love for Slavin expressed here is pure bromance.

07 Nov 2018 03:38:29
@yupp, a HOT Carolina team?!? They have lost 5 straight, 8 of the last 10 lol 5 pts of the last 20 available to them. 7th place in their division. That’s a HOT team? Is this info from the same website where you read ‘leafs are better without Matthews’?

07 Nov 2018 05:38:23
And with 18 goals as a team in those 10 games, there’s no need for them to want to add offense or change up there forward lines? Aho has 0g,2a. Ferland has 1g,0a and Teravainen has 1g0a in the 5 game losing streak. That’s a line that’s ‘doing fantastic together’ on a ‘hot team’?! Lol yeah. Wouldn’t want to mess with that chemistry and winning strategy.

08 Nov 2018 00:03:33
You even say “come on buddy, you’re smarter than this” to TSS while also saying Carolina’s a hot team haha the irony of those 2 responses is amazing. Poetic almost.

06 Nov 2018 08:46:06
Leaf fan here. With all the Nylander trade talk over the last couple of months would any of you think this trade would be a decent one?

Toronto - bracco, Nielsen,Nylander & a second round pick


Carolina for - Pesce, fleaury a first in 2020

Or Pesce, Necas and a third?

Or does someone add or subtract?

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06 Nov 2018 10:36:22
The Necas one is very off. U proably dint know how much Martin Necas is worth one the eyes of Carolina and with reason. They wouldn't trade him for nylander straight up. The first one is closer as Fleury is looking like a mediocre top4 D andeven some night a utility defensemen. Overall decent proaposal u proably dint know that necas stock has gone up so much since being drafted.

06 Nov 2018 10:59:24
I knew Necas was good but yeah unfortunately I didn’t know his stock rose that much. What about fleary? I know he’s good but Carolina is stacked on D wander if bracco maybe throw timashov in there would be a good switch for either team. It’s pretty hard to judge prospects these days but I feel Bracco definitely needs a change. Thanks for the feed back.

06 Nov 2018 21:15:25
Nylander>Necas for sure.

06 Nov 2018 08:10:54
Mtl- Hudon-scherbak-mete

LA- muzzin

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06 Nov 2018 10:37:25
No from mtl we should be the one getting rid of are old defensemen for young players. Not the other way around. Value wise maybe good.

06 Nov 2018 00:41:04
To Toronto:Gauthier,Pesce

To Caroline:Nylander,2rd 2019

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06 Nov 2018 03:49:14
I like it, I think leafs don’t need to add the second. If anything canes add the pick. The team that wins the trade is the team getting the best player and nylander wins that hands down.

05 Nov 2018 23:19:30
KIngs are in a rebuild and need a massive shake up. This is a stretch but I think an interesting thought.

Leafs - nylander, lilegren, 2019 first, 2020 first

Kings - drew doughty - 25% retained of the 11 mil a year

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06 Nov 2018 12:49:13
Even if LA would retain salary, we can’t afford Doughty. And giving up a combined total of four first round picks, including a near-elite winger and near-elite RHD would put us in a deep hole as far as our future goes. We made our big splash with Tavares.

LA still sees themselves as contenders anyway. They won’t be trading the worlds best defenseman anytime soon.

06 Nov 2018 13:50:49
@leafsGM, I agree that’s a lot to give up but consider that it’s having doughty for 8 years at $8.25 mill. That’s what Nylander is asking for! Lol even if we got Nylander signed at what the leafs apparent top dollar is, $6.75, for a difference of $1.5 mill you’re getting a Norris caliber, 2 time Stanley cup, 2 time Olympic gold medal Dman, still in his 20s, who you just called the best Dman in the world instead of a good young winger with upside. With the salary retention, I would make that trade everyday of the week. Would suck to lose liljegren, but doughty and zaitsev would be the top 2 RHD for the long haul anyway. And with that lineup, there’s no reason those picks shouldn’t be 24th and later.

I will agree it would never happen, but if that was possible, I’m all over it.

06 Nov 2018 21:17:31
In LAs current position they should take that. LA will never contend with this current core.

05 Nov 2018 16:36:06
edm: jesse puljujarvi and caleb jones

jets: tyler myers

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05 Nov 2018 17:13:59
I think oilers keep what they have lol.

06 Nov 2018 10:01:55
Two 20 year olds for a UFA?
Lol. No.

06 Nov 2018 10:02:21
I don't think that myers holds that much value anymore. he is still a top 4 defensemen but his value has dropped over the years. i don't think he'd get both pul and jones. maybe Caleb Jones plus 2nd?

06 Nov 2018 10:48:25
I don't know why people think Puljujarvi holds next to no value. he's 20 year old for christ sake. He could still be a perennial 60+ point winger for all we know. In 2 years of he's still where he's at that's a little different but look at guys who didn't start to make an impact in the nhl until they where 24+ year old and not just defensemen. Give him time he's got skill. You don't want to see him become a star somewhere else.

06 Nov 2018 17:58:14
Not sure why Edmonton would want Myers anyway. They have a pretty strong RHD already. Larsson and Bouchard will keep that side strong for years, and Russell isn’t exactly dog food either.

06 Nov 2018 19:37:58
Oil definitely need another RHD to push Russell back to his natural left side and keep Benning on the third pair. I think Myers would be a really good fit but not worth it in this trade.
Jones looked really good in training camp and hopefully he has a big year in Bakersfield to bring his value up. Look at how much Montours value went up, I feel that could be Bear and Jones in the next 2ish years.
The Jones + 2nd trade is a lot closer.

07 Nov 2018 21:19:15
There’s already been a ton of articles online on how the Jets are not trading Tyler Myers. Move on.

05 Nov 2018 04:12:23
3 way deal here.

To Ottawa - Gabe Vilardi,Dillon Dube Travis Hamonic, Tanner Pearson and a 1st rounder

To Los Angeles - Matt Duchene,Zack Smith, Mark Borowiecki

To Calgary - Bobby Ryan,Derek Forbort, Mike Condon

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05 Nov 2018 06:45:38
Lmao Flames get hosed hard here and Senators make out like bandits. 2 guys going to Flames from Ottawa have negative value yet they get a nice young piece in Dube and solid dman in hamonic?

05 Nov 2018 12:43:47
This rambo 2.0?

05 Nov 2018 13:02:37
That’s awful for flames, bad for kings and incredible for Sens.

05 Nov 2018 16:58:34
Nobody in the league is going to take Bobby Ryan’s contract. Ottawa really screwed themselves on that one. Ottawa will be under cap pressure for years because of that boat anchor of a deal.

06 Nov 2018 10:00:08
think would be better if ottawa added stone to calgary as well. maybe can add another piece that way.

06 Nov 2018 10:03:10
Flames might consider this if ottawa adds stone and possibly retains part of ryan's contract but i don't see them accepting this as is.

13 Nov 2018 00:03:30
Duchene is worth more than that easy no for Sens.

05 Nov 2018 02:40:36
Toronto - Carolina

Maple Leafs trade William Nylander, Jake Gardiner, Josh Leivo, Garrett Sparks and a 1st Rd pick in 2019 to the Carolina Hurricanes for Brett Pesce, Michael Ferlund, Petr Mrazek and Teuvo Teravainen

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05 Nov 2018 03:54:07
Big no from carolina you're on crack bruh

05 Nov 2018 06:46:04
Canes aren't trading Ferland or TT.

05 Nov 2018 08:22:55
Um, take Teravainen out and it gets a lot closer lol.

05 Nov 2018 14:14:18
HAHAHA, So. Damn. Funny.

05 Nov 2018 17:02:47
The Carolina/ Leafs trade rumors are really heating up, and it really does make sense for these two teams to make a deal. Carolina has a surplus of defensemen that Leafs could really use. And Leafs have Nylander, who is very apparent we don’t need. Even with Matthews hurt, Leafs keep racking up the goals. Trading Nylander for one of carolina’s defensemen is the way to go. And I like Pesce. Don’t think Carolina will be wanting to move any of their forwards. They will be looking for addition without subtraction in that area. A simple Nylander for Pesce+ makes sense.

05 Nov 2018 23:11:04
Have you been following along LeafsGM? The leafs have scored 15 goals in their last 7 games. They’ve scored 7 in the 3 games without Matthews. That’s not exactly racking up the goals. I’d still rather some defensive help rather than having Nylander. To say the leafs are racking up the goals still makes me think you only watched Saturday’s game and have short term memory.

05 Nov 2018 02:30:20
Montreal: Scherbak + Hudon + Alzner 30% retained

Edmonton: Puljujarvi

Just like a rough outline of a possible trade,
Puljujarvi definitely has more potential than scherbak and is younger, Montreal gets rid of alzners bad contract, hudon is thrown in for Edmonton's sake because scherbak is looking almost like a bust with his effort and defensive ability but a change of scenery for both could do well, hudon is also in there just because Puljujarvi is younger and has more potential still as well as Edmonton taking on alzners contract but he may still play as a 5 6 guy if he works with there system. Hudon is also on TSN trade bait board and pretty high up there, he doesn't get much ice time in Montreal when the team is all healthy but he has potential and can produce so he may be pretty enticing for an Edmonton team who could use some skilled wingers. This also gets rid of Montreal having to possibly lose a winger when everyone is healthy by placing someone on waivers. Playing with other Finns in Montreal on a pretty young team could help Puljujarvi find his game and develop with a fresh start and less pressure possibly too.

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05 Nov 2018 04:49:40
Pretty sure Edmonton can't take on Alzners contract. even ar 30% retained. plus. they don't want him. Habs are stuck with him.

05 Nov 2018 17:05:06
Alzner is so overpaid. Even if Edmonton sent a cap dump back to Montreal, they still wouldn’t make this trade. Nobody in the league wants Alzner, even if Montreal were to give him away.

06 Nov 2018 10:51:37
We know it LeafsGm just like nobody wanted Phaneuf at 7.5 million. Oh wait somebody took him.


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