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26 Jun 2020 13:47:49
WPG: 1st Round Pick 2020
BUF: Mittelstadt, 3rd Round Pick 2020

Or

WPG: 1st Round Pick 2020
NYR: Andersson, 3rd Round Pick 2020

Or

WPG: 2nd Round Pick 2020
EDM: Pulujarvi

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26 Jun 2020 14:14:29
No from Winnipeg on all 3. No need for the Jets to drastically overpay for draft busts and malcontents.

Wow, those are terrible!

26 Jun 2020 18:22:21
If Winnipeg manages to win a couple rounds in the playoffs I think the Buffalo deal would be good for Winnipeg I could see him developing into a great 2C I thought Middlestad was going to be a star rn I’m not sure what happened.

26 Jun 2020 18:51:50
I agree I liked Mittlestad too. I'd take him for a reasonable cost, but no chance I'd give up a first for him. I'd rather just take our chances with whomever our scouts deem as the BPA at that time.

26 Jun 2020 19:02:05
If you say so but Middelstad has the potential to be amazing with Laine and Ehlers.

26 Jun 2020 19:22:05
The Mittlestad and Pully trade trades could be nice for the Jets its just trading Buffalo a first for a player that still is a big? would be foolish at this time. I have always liked Pully but if he still wants to be in the top two lines he would hate playing for Maurice who expects young players like him to pay their dues and learn to play at 90 foot game before they get a sniff of the top two lines. Pully at best is only worth a 3rd and then the Jets would have to worry about him becoming a malcontent whiner.

26 Jun 2020 20:06:00
True vbbb he does have that potential. He also has the potential to remain what he is now.

Definitely not worth gambling a 1st.

27 Jun 2020 01:08:26
I think the puljujarvi trade works, but if I'm jets, I want a meeting with him first.

25 Jun 2020 15:50:10
I have a 3 way blockbuster Trade Proposal.

Buffalo Trades
Eichel (New Jersey)
Jokiharju (Toronto)

New Jersey Trades
JHughes (Buffalo)
Zacha (Toronto)
Severson (Toronto)
Arz's 1st Round Pick 2020 (Buf)
TB's 1st Round Pick 2020 (Buf)

Toronto Trades
Kerfoot (New Jersey)
Kapanen (New Jersey)
FGauthier (New Jersey)
Dermott (Buffalo)
Duszak (New Jersey)

A lot of moving pieces but with Eichel unhappy in Buffalo, Devils wanting to improve sooner than later getting the best player in the proposal and the Leafs fixing there RSide on Defense plus adding Zacha it's a proposal that helps all 3 Teams.

Thoughts ?

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25 Jun 2020 16:03:42
What no Bracco in this weird trade proposal. lol.

25 Jun 2020 17:02:35
islandjet weird is a strange way of putting it.
It's a 3 way trade proposal that actually makes sense for Cap and each Team's needs.
With all the weird time off Teams have time to come up with weird deals.
As for Bracco no he isn't part of my proposal.

25 Jun 2020 17:07:29
So are we saying

Dermott=Jokiharju
Hughes+ 2 1st = Eichel

Kerfoot+Kapanen+Gauthier+Duszak=Severson+Zacha.

25 Jun 2020 19:25:27
Anyone else not surprised Toronto makes out really well in this trade? Lol.

25 Jun 2020 19:57:42
I mean we lose Kapanen, Dermott and Kerfoot along with who I think is an underated prospect in Duszak. Gauthier is just a throw in and we have Brooks now who can take over for him.

In return we get a solid RHD in Seversonwhich is what you would expect giving up Kapanen

We get a young player in Jokiharju which is what you would expect when offering Dermott

Then we get player who hasn’t really found his stride quite yet but still has some time and could probably use a fresh start for a proven 40 point player, an underated prospect who imo will make the NHL in the next 2 years, and a decent bottom 6 forward.

I mean the leafs may need to add a little bit but what we get in return for what is offered is very close to fair imo.

25 Jun 2020 20:11:16
No kidding, this is a typical Pinball deal. Toronto makes out like bandits and the opposing GM is always making a trade that would instantly get them fired.

25 Jun 2020 20:42:56
memarcusjoe Devils are getting the best player in my trade proposal so don't get how The Leafs are bandits. this trade helps all 3 Teams.

25 Jun 2020 21:12:25
Well, I'll give you that NJ doesn't come out too bad, but only because they and up with by far the best player.

But looking at what Toronto gets compared to what they give, it's easy to see they make out as bandits.

Jokiharju> Dermott - Joki is younger, already better, RD and has an extra year on his contract.

Zacha>Kerfoot - Zacha is at least equal in skill with Kerfoot, but younger with a better contract and still RFA when his contract expires.

Severson>Kapanen - top 4 RHD is worth more than a bottom 6 winger.

Duszak and Gauthier don't help or hinder, they're just dime a dozen players that all teams have many of, so have no real value.

So, Toronto gives up 3 meaningful players, but manages to get a nice upgrade on each one. In other words they make out like bandits.

25 Jun 2020 23:54:09
Lol Toronto is being heavily favoured here. And I really don’t like Severson when I say that. Buffalo also losses.

26 Jun 2020 01:09:04
What a mess.

26 Jun 2020 01:47:35
Lololol Kapanen a bottom six winger hahaha 😂. If Kapanen is a bottom 6 winger then Roslovic is an AHL lifer lol. He will easily get you Severson as he is younger, on a great contract and is an RFA when it expires, and he would probably be playing top 6 and putting up 50-60 points if Nylander or Marner weren’t leafs.

I’m tired of people underestimating all leafs players on this site it’s gotten to the point where not even Reilly is worth much to most people on here even though he is Locked up for 3 more years on one of the best contracts in the league.

Also Dermott > Jokiharju imo. He has more experience, way better defensively, broke into the NHL way earlier and was much better when he did, and will get a great contract that for some reason everyone will rip on if it’s given to him by the leafs. Just because Jokiharju has 1 year left on his ELC doesn’t mean much especially when Dermott’s next deal will likely be in the 1.5-2.5 million dollar range depending on length.

When Laine gets a bridge deal it’s “one of the best contracts ever”. Just wait till he asks for 10 mill then we will se whose laughing lol.

Duszak had over a point per game in the ECHL as a defenceman and had 18 points in 23 games in the AHL. Reminder this is a RHD, who is 22 years old, and who will likely be playing in the NHL within the next 2 years. Saying he is worth nothing is totally bull crap.

I understand that sometimes you may not like trade because they aren’t awesome for your team, but that’s not how the NHL works. New Jersey and Buffalo would be thrilled with what they are getting in return for what they are giving up.

Buffalo basically gets 4 really good young players to have for the future. New Jersey gets 2 proven MIDDLE SIX players who can boost their scoring a lot more and who could play with Eichel. Oh ya, and not to mention a top 10 player in the league.

I know this trade is super unlikely, but I’m just sick and tired of everyone undervaluing leafs players. It’s gotten ridiculous. Leafs players aren’t garbage, and they are worth a lot more then a lot of you think.

26 Jun 2020 07:53:09
Themostleaf- Severson>Kappanen but I do agree with him being a 50 point player with Marner or Nylander. You’re overvaluing the other players and I’m a leafs fan.

26 Jun 2020 12:22:09
Kapanen is a middle six winger. Severson is a top 4 RHD. He’s a couple years older but he’s also a D so it doesn’t give him less value compared to Kapanen IMO. They also put up similar offence the past couple years. Severson easily has more value.

I will agree certain guys over exaggerate leafs players values but no one thinks Reilly has no value and no one has said that. He doesn’t even get mentioned in trades.

Jokijarju is 2 and a half years younger and broke into the league at a younger age so your wrong. He obviously has more value. Just take them out of the trade if you disagree, simple.

This prospect is 22 playing in the ECHL? He could very well turn into a good player but he doesn’t have very much value.

26 Jun 2020 12:22:37
Didn’t Kapenen play mostly top 6 last year?

26 Jun 2020 14:41:44
Ebsolutely- no he didn’t he was the 3rd line RW the whole year besides the 10 games Marner was injured.

26 Jun 2020 14:52:58
You guys have your opinions, I have mine. Imo the stats don’t lie as Dermott is a much better overall defenceman then Jokiharju.

Kapanen would be playing top 6 one basically any other team and putting up 50-60 points.

26 Jun 2020 18:13:39
I thought he stayed up though VB? I tried to look it up and found that he played almost 600 minutes with Matthews that year. His most common line mates were Matthews then Marleau then Kadri.

26 Jun 2020 18:24:13
Ohh okay yah I thought you meant this season. We all know the story with Nylander that season. He did get a decent amount of top 6 minutes that year.

26 Jun 2020 20:19:55
And he finished with 44 points so he could definitely be a 50 point guy but it might have to be with a star player. I think we can agree he’s a middle 6 winger then no?

25 Jun 2020 15:08:39
Tor: Pesce Teravainen
Car: Nylander Dermott

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25 Jun 2020 15:32:48
Carolina says no on this one.

25 Jun 2020 16:06:13
Why is Carolina doing this favour for the Leafs?

25 Jun 2020 23:55:03
Terrible for Carolina. Nylander for Pesce is fair. Not saying Carolina makes that deal.

26 Jun 2020 17:17:54
Teuvo>Nylander

and Pesce heavily outclasses Dermott.

Easy no from Carolina.

26 Jun 2020 18:25:30
Teuvo is not better then Nylander. Why do you think that please explain. Nylander is an offensive dynamo and is younger.

27 Jun 2020 01:18:43
I mean, both players are pretty equal, I would personally choose teuvo, as I think he's better overall. Him being a year older, is offset by being 1.5m/ year cheaper.

25 Jun 2020 03:56:22
Montreal trade max domi and Jeff Petry to Columbus from Josh Anderson and defenseman.

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25 Jun 2020 13:43:48
lol! And which deference do you propose they give up?

25 Jun 2020 14:10:31
Holy crap are they getting like Seth Jones or something? Cause it seems to me like this is one of the biggest overpayments of all time.

25 Jun 2020 23:56:24
I don’t see any dman that could realistically be added. Jones and Werenski would be to much and the others wouldn’t be enough.

26 Jun 2020 01:09:52
The defencemen is Zach Werenski.

25 Jun 2020 03:20:54
WPG
Perreault

DET
Nemeth

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25 Jun 2020 13:28:44
The Jets don't need any press box guys.

25 Jun 2020 14:11:42
Memarcusjoe I think this would actually be a good move for the Jets as it would free up over 4 million in space. Wouldn’t you rather have another top 4D with that money rather than a 4th liner making 4 million.

25 Jun 2020 15:02:06
No themostleaf, I'd rather have a 3rd line guy that is a little overpaid, but still a good player. Compared to an overpaid bottom pairing/ press box guy. We can just re-sign one of our current bottom pairing UFA guys for cheaper or pick up a similar guy off waivers if we want extra depth.

Now, if it was an actual top 4D guy, then yes it would make sense.

25 Jun 2020 15:12:52
Nemeth would only save the Jets $1 mil per so having another bottom pairing left shot d-man is not going to help the Jets as they have several of their own.

25 Jun 2020 23:58:28
I don’t think Perrault has any value I don’t think he has negative value but if he were moved for a 7th round pick I don’t think it’d hurt the jets. 4 million could be better spent.

24 Jun 2020 20:50:24
Tor: Anisimov 50% retained

Ott: Kerfoot Bracco 5th

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24 Jun 2020 23:32:32
Why would the leafs do that?

25 Jun 2020 23:59:22
I’m not sure if Anisimov is the right guy for the leafs 3rd line.

24 Jun 2020 04:58:46
DET - Bernier (50% retained)
EDM - Russell, 2021 3rd

Or

DET - Filppula (50% retained)
EDM - Russell, 2021 5th.

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24 Jun 2020 15:25:53
with their salaries wouldn't russel for filipula straight up be pretty close?

24 Jun 2020 16:11:28
PKane, it would probably be close yeah I only added the pick because of the retention. The Oilers are going to want to save as much cap as possible.

24 Jun 2020 23:19:10
I think Detroit would just move Filippula for the highest pick we could get or highest prospect we could get, especially with retention.

There is not really a need for Russell. If Edmonton wants to add to move his contract, we’re open to those types of deals by taking on salary for picks/ prospects.

25 Jun 2020 11:57:29
I think Detroit could use a veteran D considering Eriksson and Daley are UFA’s and they don’t have much else for veteran D. Also he’d be another asset for them at the deadline.

25 Jun 2020 12:47:09
If we really need a Vet D, we can likely sign a depth one as a UFA like we did with Nemeth. Assuming we lose the Krug sweepstakes.

Getting rid of Daley/ Ericsson is good for us because it gives more room for our young D like Cholowski or Seider to push for spots.

The only question here is who will have greater trade value at the deadline: Filippula or Russell? If it’s Russell, we may take this to flip him later. If it’s Filippula, we keep him.

25 Jun 2020 15:44:02
I agree, I think the 5th might not be enough alone but I think Russel gets more at the deadline. 15 point stay at home D might be able to get a 4th if his salary is retained.

26 Jun 2020 00:02:34
In this current time salary cap is worth more then gold. The wings could load up on probably 5 1st round picks just by taking salary this year. I think it’d take a 2nd to dump Russel he’s not even bad but this offseason is unique and like I said cap space is very valuable.

26 Jun 2020 15:50:04
I think you might be exaggerating the salary cap VB. I think definitely teams will have to be more careful and it’ll have an impact on the market. But I don’t think a team or at least not Edmonton would trade a second to drop one year of 2.5M.

23 Jun 2020 23:41:55
Winnipeg: Nikolaj Ehlers
Minnesota:Jonas Brodin

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23 Jun 2020 23:53:25
No from Winnipeg. 5 years of Ehlers is worth more than 2 years of Brodin.

24 Jun 2020 00:31:55
WPG: Ehlers
MIN: Dumba.

24 Jun 2020 13:24:58
No from Winnipeg. 5 years of Ehlers is worth more than 3 years of Dumba. Especially considering how poorly Dumba played last season.

24 Jun 2020 14:38:48
The Brodin trade is a no go for the Jets while Dumba woul d be a great trade target but he has to show he has returned to the player he was before his injury. Two years ago in the playoffs he was a dynamo against the Jets never coming off the ice. He alone kept the games closer then they should have been, but now he's not worth Ehlers straight up in a trade.

25 Jun 2020 00:51:52
I don’t get the why Ehlers is so much over hyped, he’s ok but his stats are nothing to go nuts for.

25 Jun 2020 01:36:58
Funny you guys saying 5 years of Ehler is worth more than 2 or 3 years of Brodin or Dumba but you expect Leafs to pay Nylander for the same players. How is it that Ehlers is worth more than those guys but Nylander isn't?

25 Jun 2020 14:15:54
I find it funny that you conveniently ignore that Jet fans have have never expected the Leafs to pay Nylander for Dumba or Brodin. Also, that you conveniently ignore that Nylander is overpaid by a little more than $1 mil/ season and has one less year on his contract. You're saying cap hit and contract length have no bearing on deals?

26 Jun 2020 00:04:23
MemarcusJoe how is Nylander overpayed compared to recently signed contracts like Hayes, Skinner, Keller, Paniran etc.

26 Jun 2020 14:08:39
Because Nylander's comparables are RFA contracts like Ehlers and Pasternak not UFA contracts and another bad RFA contract. Being paid more than both of those guys, while only signing a 6 year contract as opposed to 7 or 8 makes him overpaid. If it was at least a 7 year contract, it would be fine.

26 Jun 2020 14:46:11
Uhh those contracts were all signed before Nylander. Raising escrow leads to more expensive contracts. It’s like comparing Crosby’s contract to McDavids.

 


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