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11 Jan 2018 17:23:49
Montreal - Pacioretty

Calgary - Bennett

This was a rumour before. Up and coming center for a proven goal scorer. I wouldn't be surprised if Patches got over 30 this year and over 40 next year playing with Gaudreau and Monaha. Although Ferland looks like a nice fit on the top line

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11 Jan 2018 17:33:17
It's interesting . however, I don't think Patches would be in Flames king term plans, as he will probably want 7+ mil after this contract, and for the Habs, Bennett is risky . knowing the way the Habs have ran things, would probably give him a few games and put him in the wing. , then realize they don't have enough centers and resign Plekanec to 6 mill a year lol.
Is there a D prospect that could be added with Bennett?

11 Jan 2018 20:06:09
Um I would not call Bennett an up and coming scorer lol don’t see why Montreal would ever consider this tbh they should want a way better offer imo.

11 Jan 2018 20:06:08
Flames have tons of D prospects I could see maybe Kylington or Andersson going to Montreal, maybe even Fox.

11 Jan 2018 21:48:17
Xcing. your a Flames fan right? If so. what's your thoughts on Jankowski? .

12 Jan 2018 00:22:25
Up and coming center was my words, not scorer. Address one need of the habs, flames could throw in a d prospect as well.

12 Jan 2018 00:56:18
Sosa my thoughts on Jankowski are that’ll he’ll probably be the Flames 3rd line center for the future, provides good energy and some scoring but honestly I don’t see him being anything much more than that. I’d say you can count on him being a 30-40 Point scorer and good defensively.

12 Jan 2018 13:55:19
I agree about Jankowski. Could even have a 50
Point season in him with the right line mates. I actually really like him. Should be a really good third line center.

12 Jan 2018 19:56:42
That is a very high risk trade for Montreal. Bennett has ranged from bust to producer this year. It would probably need a high pick to accompany the trade, and the Flames don't have one of those this year.

11 Jan 2018 17:11:11
OTT: Ceci/2018 1st

Ari: OEL/Duclair


OTT: Hoff / claesson

EDM: Nuge/ 2018 2nd

OTT: brassard/ smith /chlapik

Tor: JVR /2018 2nd

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11 Jan 2018 17:24:54
Duclair already gone bud.

11 Jan 2018 17:33:35
Little late.

11 Jan 2018 20:02:37
None of these are good.

11 Jan 2018 20:05:32
Besides being late, OEL and Duclair for Ceci and a first 🤔 (I mean unless that’s a top 5 pick)

11 Jan 2018 21:12:02
OEL >>> Cici
1st >>> Duclair.
Arizona laughs.

12 Jan 2018 19:58:57
Arizona and Edmonton trade are too one sided for Ottawa. Probably a no go.

Toronto trade is more likely.

11 Jan 2018 14:47:26
Draft: mtl have the 5th overall pick

Mtl trade Max Pacioretty and the 5th pick for 2nd overall pick and top 9 fwrd

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11 Jan 2018 15:19:45
the team with the second pick wouldn't likely do that, patches is a ufa after next year. They would need something back that they have under control for years to come.

11 Jan 2018 16:20:13
I know Dahlin is consensus number 1, this Russian who is considered number 2, is he any good? I didn't notice him much at World Jrs .
I guess, is he a number 2 over all kike Malkin? Or number 2 like Rinehart?

11 Jan 2018 17:07:55
Apparently the Russian is a pure goal scorer and is projected to be better than Reinhart from what iv heard and read but who knows.

11 Jan 2018 17:12:35
The difference between 2 and 5 isn't much. I'd rather have 5th and let's say 20th and a prospect than just 2nd imo.

11 Jan 2018 17:17:50
The team at #2 probably won't need Pacioretty. They will want that good prospect who ever they pick at #2 instead.

11 Jan 2018 20:00:45
You would either have to go for 1st to get Dahlin or just stick with 5th and take Tkachuk or Zadina and keep Patches. Both Tkachuk and Zadina look really good at world jrs. Zadina would be more of a Montreal guy as Tkachuk is a more grittier player and habs already have Gallagher and Shaw.

11 Jan 2018 20:03:48
Svechnikov I believe. Russian. Has been in the talks with Dahlin for as long as I can remember.

11 Jan 2018 20:45:36
I’ll take Zandina over Svechnikov. Zandina reminds me of Nico Heicher.

11 Jan 2018 21:31:44
Zadina has truly conquered me.

11 Jan 2018 21:50:10
Other than Dahlin and the Russian. what is the top 5 atm? I've heard Tkachuk. but must admit I'm not to up on the prospects.

12 Jan 2018 00:12:28
Dahlin D
Svechnikov RW
Zadina RW
Tkachuck LW
Boqvist D
Dobson D
Kupari C
Wahlstrom RW
Wilde D
Bouchard D.

12 Jan 2018 00:34:03
Svechnikov the realy deal his 6.3 Loves to hit rated the 4 fastest skater in the draft has a wicked shot in 18 games has 15 goals that pretty elite.

12 Jan 2018 00:43:19
Thanks Yup.

11 Jan 2018 12:31:47
CGY - 1st Round Pick + Rasmus Andersson
OTT - Mike Hoffman

People have been saying he's worth a 1st and a b prospect.

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11 Jan 2018 17:13:38
Calgary already doesn't have a 2018 first round pick, I doubt they give 2019 up as well.

11 Jan 2018 09:58:00
FLA: Pysyk (2.75 mil), 2018 2nd round pick, and 2018 5th round pick.

VAN: Chris Tanev (4.45 mil)

Panthers need more defensive help and while Pysyk is 25 he's still raw and makes a lot of mistakes from the Panthers games I've watched this year. Panthers need better possession numbers and Tanev has only had one year where he was negative in possession in relation to his team.

Canucks get a younger d-man on a nice contract w term to help w the rebuild along w a 2nd.

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11 Jan 2018 16:16:13
Oh this is interesting.

11 Jan 2018 20:04:49
Harmonic got a first and 2 seconds so canucks want no less than that because Tanev is a better damn than Hamonic is.

10 Jan 2018 23:11:16
CHI: Panik , + 2 other players
ARZ: Duclair

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10 Jan 2018 23:16:58
Adam Clendenning is part of the deal too.

10 Jan 2018 23:18:29
OFFICIAL:

ARZ: Duclair, Clendening

CHI: Panik, Dauphin.

11 Jan 2018 00:06:12
Honestly this ****ing brutal like how the hell does Chicago pull off another one sided trade like I don’t understand how they win every single trade? There’s no way Arizona thinks this is a fair trade like come on league is rigged.

11 Jan 2018 02:32:06
Ya idk McJesus. CHI didn't even retain too.

11 Jan 2018 03:34:14
I heard that GM's don't want to trade for Duclair because he is hard to coach.

11 Jan 2018 03:47:58
Why do you think Duclair is that valuable? Lol you’re making it sound like it’s jvr for Schenn part 2. It’s 4 pretty insignificant players trading spots. I know Duclair seems to have the most upside but it’s also widely reported that they have tried to trade him for over a year and this was the best they could get. He has attitude issues and doesn’t have the offense to back up his negative qualities. Clearly 31 gms believed this is the most he’s worth. A lot of players a lot more talented than him have been very irrelevant because they wouldn’t get out of their own way.

11 Jan 2018 03:55:54
Arizona is just happy to get rid of him. Chayka said his problems goes back long long ago. Player didn't want to be there and team didn't want the player.
I honestly used to really like Duclair, but unless he completely changes his attitude and grows up, he won't be anything special.
And I think Chicago is the organization to straighten him out.

11 Jan 2018 04:39:07
Really wishing my team would made a play for him. He's young. can still be a solid player and potential 30 goal man.

11 Jan 2018 04:40:28
Not saying he has loads of value at all just how does Chicago always find a way to absolutely burn the other team.

11 Jan 2018 05:00:04
Also panik is only 26, his best season is 22g 44pts last season, Duclairs is 20g 44pts but 2 years ago. They have very similar stats this year (6g 10a for 16 pts in 37 games vs 9g 6a 15pts in 33 games) Panik has also fit into a few different teams now and you never hear bad character/ attitude reports. Your oilers would have been able to get him for the same price, blame your GM not a “rigged league” haha.

11 Jan 2018 05:00:24
Potential 30 goal man I can’t see, but he’s young with speed and skill. But if he does got an attitude that’s a big issue and this is the second time he’s been traded and he’s young, not a great sign but if he can fix that then he could be a good player.

11 Jan 2018 05:07:56
Plus . Look for him to start with Toews and Saad. Hawks have been looking for and option on that RW to complete that line.

11 Jan 2018 06:06:42
Hes not hard to coach people just assume rubbish cause his black just people said about ignla back in the day more recenly subban kane stewart bufflyn you just makeing yourself look raciest.

11 Jan 2018 12:54:18
Idk why everyone makes it that Chicago makes out like bandits?

Panik has 16 pts in 37 games after 44 in 82 last year. he's on pace for roughly the same. he's played well. i don't think the dofference between him and duclair is big, bsides the cap hits.

and honestly, i'd rather have laurent than clendening. dauphin can be something in the nhl, clendening has just fallen off a cliff.

11 Jan 2018 14:30:48
22 years old and now on his 3rd team says all you need to know about Duclair!

11 Jan 2018 19:19:44
Alexei yashin and Alex kovalev both had bad attitudes at times in their careers and were viewed as difficult, 2 white guys, and before you say now we hate blacks and Russians lol. Eric Lindros. The difference between Duclair and lindros is that lindros has the numbers and on ice success to balance out being a pain in the ass. Deciding if a guy like that is worth keeping around is a ratio of how productive the player is vs how distracting and disfunctional he makes a team, not shade of his skin.

11 Jan 2018 20:01:36
There’s nothing racist about it. It’s been said by coaches, gms and media close to the teams he’s played for that he is difficult and has a poor attitude. Don’t make it about race, you sound stupid. Wayne Simmonds is a guy that gets a ton of respect because you never hear bad stories about him. He seems to have his life together off the ice and plays a very honest game on the ice. Joel ward also comes to mind when saying that. And on the contrary, there’s plenty of white players who have been called difficult and told they have a bad attitude.

12 Jan 2018 00:15:30
Woah wtf. Race has absolutely nothing to do with it.

12 Jan 2018 00:51:53
thats a new level of stupidity HIGH247. Not being a fan of one black player does not make someone a racist. Your proposals were never great but entertaining and had conversations and debates going, but you have definitely lost any respect I had and hopefully others had with that BS.

12 Jan 2018 02:51:10
Is 24/ 7 Golden showers?

10 Jan 2018 23:00:04
Apparently Duclair is heading to CHI according to Elliot Friedman

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11 Jan 2018 23:31:04
I would love to know who clicked unbelievable for this.

10 Jan 2018 21:46:53
Mtl) Pacioretty
Lak) Toffoli + Subban + 3rd

Bergevin stated that he was looking for a younger goal scorer

Then

Mtl) Schlemko + Benn
Dal) 3rd + AHL guys (1 or 2 players)

Bring the Benns together and adding depth to their defense
Then
Mtl) Plekanek (5 mil retained)
Contender) 3rd

Hudon Drouin Toffoli
Byron Danault Gallagher
Scherbak Galchenyuk Lehkonen
Deslauriers DLR Shaw

Mete Weber
Alzner Petry
Morrow Subban

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10 Jan 2018 22:20:38
Overvaluing Pacioretty there bud. I wouldn't trade Toffoli for Patches straight up

10 Jan 2018 22:41:09
So Toffoli is better, younger and on a better contract yet the kings add?

11 Jan 2018 02:10:50
Hahaha. I love it when hab haters assume everyone else in the league is better than habs. Toffoli is close but clearly not better than Pacioretty. Just look up the stats and do a little research before commenting please. Also Toffoli make $100,000 more. Just saying.

11 Jan 2018 03:51:07
LOOOOOL in your dreams the Kings do this.

11 Jan 2018 03:51:57
Making basically identical money but to follow contract going till 2020 makes it a better contract. Whoever trades for patches either loses him or gives him a massive raise while toffoli is still making 4.6mill. That’s why it’s a better contract. not difficult.

11 Jan 2018 03:57:40
All things considered, I would take Tofoli over Pacioretty right now.

11 Jan 2018 04:42:01
I would hate to lose Patches. would love to get Toffoli however. Can't see it happening.
Maybe Habs should try and use Patches to get a true center to Montreal, one to have Drouin as his winger.
Is there any deal to be made with Patches and a big add, to BUY for Tavares in a sign and trade.?

11 Jan 2018 14:54:12
Again with that $5M retained. you can only retain a max of 50% and i'm pretty sure he is a free agent at the end of the year so doesn't even have $5M left to be paid out on his contract.

11 Jan 2018 17:18:54
Pacioretty scored over 30goals in the last 5 of 6 seasons with subpar centremans. And the only one he didn't was because he played only 44 games. Please hab haters stop undervaluing players because they play for the habs.

11 Jan 2018 17:42:31
Start the rebuild . I think it's a little of both. we overrate (Not saying you), they underrate. not really any middle ground.
Patches IMO doesn't get the credit he deserves. If he would have had a true number one, he very well coulda flirted with 50 in a season. almost got 40 with Desjarnais. Biggest mistake, IMO was giving him the C, keep the A, but jus let him play. Give it to Weber, he's built for that. This season you can see him struggling more than Ever, and I think he needs less pressure. I don't want to see him traded, however if that is the path they take, i'd like to see him in a deal that would make more of a difference in Montreal than, say a Toffoli would. A bigger deal with more parts going towards a true number one (yes In thinking Tavares lol)

12 Jan 2018 01:02:47
@sosa, you make some good points but as a leaf fan, I watched kessel flirt with 40 goals playing mostly with bozak as his centreman and a carousel of LW including a bit of JVR, some Lupul and then a terrible list including Joey Crabb (you’re saying “who the hell is joey crabb?! ”) . We all said when he gets traded to Pittsburgh and has elite centreman, and be on the PP with sid, geno, letang horny etc he’ll hit 50 for sure. After having 30+ for 6 straight seasons including 37 twice in Toronto, he had 26 and 23 as a penguin in 2 full 82 game seasons. Sometimes guys need better line mates to be better, but sometimes guys are as good as they’re going to be with mediocre linemates because they’re always going to be the go to option on those lines. Just a thought.

12 Jan 2018 02:54:31
True Jim. And yes I remember Joey Crabb lol. hmm. where is he now?
Ya, I guess who really knows. Seems like Patches is gettig the same treatment Kessel received in Toronto at the end if his tour.

12 Jan 2018 13:06:29
I think they’re extremely similar. Both really good snipers, who unfortunately don’t bring much else when they’re not scoring. And like you said about giving Weber the C, o thought that should happen the moment they traded for him. Patches and kessel are really good players, but if they are your best player, and the guy you try to build around, you’re not going to be a good team. Patches will be a good support player on a much better team like kessel is now.

10 Jan 2018 20:34:28
CGY: Brett Kulak, 2nd
ARI: Anthony Duclair

CGY: Jaromir Jagr, Mark Jankowski, 3rd
CAR: Elias Lindholm
(Not too sure about this trade, i know flames add but i don't know what they add. Higher pick? Prospect? Let me know please)

J Gaudreau - S Monahan - M Ferland
M Tkachuk - M Backlund - M Frolik
A Duclair - S Bennett - E Lindholm
A Mangiapane - M Stajan - G Hathaway / T Brouwer

M Giordano - D Hamilton
T Brodie - T Hamonic
M Bartkowski - M Stone

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10 Jan 2018 18:03:05
ANA: Jones, 1st Round Pick 2018
BUF: Kane

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10 Jan 2018 18:57:11
Ana has 2 many forward now there all back from injury the need some help on the back end.

10 Jan 2018 19:05:21
Wasn’t too long ago that they had too many dman.

10 Jan 2018 20:43:27
They have Beauchemin and Bieksa as there button pair and they both should be the 7 dman if one of the top 4 get hurt there srewed would try a trade for hutton or tanev or both lol over kane just look at there roster and u well se that they don't need any more forwards lol.

10 Jan 2018 21:12:51
Ya High247, You should propose they trade Rakell, Steel, 20181st, 2019 1st, Manson for Tanev and Hutton.

10 Jan 2018 22:21:28
Lol yup u summed up that guy real quick ahaha

11 Jan 2018 01:22:07
Fowler, Lindholm, Manson, Montour and Bieksa isn’t a 7th D yet. Plus they have some fairly good D prospect I believe.

11 Jan 2018 01:55:40
Insane? Summed up yup. Lol.

11 Jan 2018 02:51:00
Tanev for larson 1 rd pick and Maxime Comtois

Hutton for jones.

11 Jan 2018 03:07:27
Rakell gatzlaf perry
Cogliano kelser silverberg
Evas henrique richie
Kase vermete wagner
Lindholm manson
Frowler montour
Beauchemin Bieksa

Its easy to see there weekness and its not fowards lol only think bieksa can do good is fight lol.

11 Jan 2018 19:35:21
You can say anything cuase you no i'm right lol.

 


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