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30 Jul 2019 15:08:47
Oilers: Russel

Rangers: Shattenkirk (rangers retain 1m)

Rangers save 1,5m and add a usable player for LD as their RD is stacked

Oilers add a RD to play with nurse

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30 Jul 2019 16:01:49
First, Russell is a RD.
Second, the trade is horrible.

Shattenkirk >> Russell
AND you’re asking NYR to retain $1M?!

30 Jul 2019 16:48:48
Rangers need to shed cap so I'd guess theyd trade him for picks and prospects. Or some cheap roster players.

30 Jul 2019 18:34:40
Russel is a left shot and I’m pretty sure he only plays right side in Edmonton because there right side is trash.

30 Jul 2019 23:03:27
Shattenkirk > Russell in offensive talent but Russell > Shattenkirk for defensive ability via shot blocking and Russellisn't hurt all the time.
Shattenkirk somewhat gave Edm a cold shoulder a few years ago, so not sure the franchise wants him.
Rangers probably want to compliment their young core with a younger dman.

31 Jul 2019 00:30:17
Isnt nyr expected to buyout shattenkirk?

31 Jul 2019 06:05:18
Russell played LD in Calgary, he only plays RD cause Edmonton's right side is weak. he's a lefty

30 Jul 2019 05:05:20
Calgary

T. Zajac
M. McLeod
D. Severson
1st round pick in 2021
1st round pick in 2022

New Jersey

M. Tkachuk

Shut me down if need be, but McLeod would get a legit chance to play in Calgary, Zajac is getting up there plus Jersey is packed tight with centermen. Severson could probably be a top 2 dman in Calgary. The 2 1st round picks may be late 20s early 30th pick. With Tkachuk on an already better team would not only make the devils a force to be wreckened with to be a contender for multiple deep playoff runs but could probably even get Taylor Hall signed. Think about it realistically before you criticize

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30 Jul 2019 07:11:25
Isn’t McLeod that guy that got addicted to playing fortnite?
Also, if Calgary gives up Tkachuk it won’t be for a cap dump and high draft picks. Their stanley cup window is now.
Calgary already has insane centre depth.
Lindholm, Monahan, Bennett, Jankowski and Backlund.
All of those guys can play centre.
Zajac is the worst one on that list and will get sent to the AHL.

So Tkachuk for Severson, 2 AHL players for Calgary and draft picks that they don’t need.

30 Jul 2019 07:17:17
Must be a real NHL GM. Right on.

30 Jul 2019 11:25:09
Every team needs or wants Draft picks. We're not trading hockey cards bro. And who wouldn't want 2 first round picks. Are you Peter Chiarelle?

30 Jul 2019 11:37:07
Besides Tkachuk isn't even resigned yet and Calgary has just over 4.6 million and I doubt a player like Tkachuk is going to sign a 1 or 2 year deal worth 2.5 a year when Jersey has over 12 million and could offer more money and more term. Go ahead and hope he signs or Calgary doesn't lose a 21 yo left winger for nothing. Then those 2 draft picks would be a lost opportunity, especially 2 1st rounders and a couple AHL players as you say. Good Luck with that.

30 Jul 2019 11:50:11
But devils you lost all your credibil WHen you said severson would be top 2 in Calgary.

30 Jul 2019 12:08:41
We didn't say he would. What we said was he could probably be a top 2 dman. Put him in net for all it's worth. I can almost guarantee if an offer sheet went toward Tkachuk it's going to be an offer he couldn't refuse and you lose him for nil. Or you can always match the offer sheet and rip your whole team apart to keep him. He's a great player whose going to want to win and win early in his career. You could sign him on a bridge deal and hope that you win now because if you don't win, he's gone and Treviling is either fired or scratching his head in worry and kicking himself in the Frank's and Beans for not taking an offer that included 2 first rounders and a couple youngsters who probably only need a change of scenery and a better opportunity to flourish in the NHL.

30 Jul 2019 14:46:27
Calgary is not trading him. There window is now also so not trading one of there best players and wouldn't be losing him for nothing If they cant. Its 3 1sts if someone tries to sign him cause he gets 8mil or more . Plan is to trade Brodie. Then trade or buyout stone. They'll have plenty of room after that gets done.

30 Jul 2019 14:50:26
One problem I see is if the flames can't afford tkachuk as you say then how do they afford zajac and severson?

30 Jul 2019 14:52:50
I don't think Calgary would do this, but not sure if NJD could afford to do this either. Next year you need to sigh not just Hall, but Hischier as well - he needs a new deal for the 20-21 season.
After that you Need Gusev the year after for the 21-22 season (he might be really good if his production from the KHL transfers over) .
Then the following year you have Jack Hugues. I think with all these guys you might be in cap trouble sooner than you think.
I think NJD should stick with what they have put together (which looks really good right now) and try to resign their own guys in the future.
I don't think you really need Tkachuck at this time, but try to go for the offer sheet and get him. Might be more than two first round picks. Just don't be surprised if Calgary does the same to Jack Hughes.

30 Jul 2019 22:45:53
Dream on Devils. Wow. Terrible proposal for Calgary. Treliving might be an idiot after the Lucic deal but in no way does he even entertain this.

30 Jul 2019 23:09:45
Devils, do you have multiple personalities or something? Why you keep referring to yourself as we? You have a buddy help you write this? Honest question, not trying to be rude.

31 Jul 2019 00:23:02
Calgary isn't trading Tkachuk!
Only way that happens is someone like Marner is coming back and if it's Marner Flames would have to add.

31 Jul 2019 00:26:07
Y’all serious huh?
Calgary trades 1 of their best players with insane potential for 2 AHL players, a right side defenceman WHICH THEY DON’T NEED! they have Brodie, Hamonic, Stone, Andersson on the right side and 2 draft picks when their Stanley Cup window is now.

Calgary gets nothing out of this.

31 Jul 2019 00:25:07
Calgary would probably throw in Guadreau after the Lucic Trade. But no really Calgary probably takes this for sure that’s a lot close to what Lindros got. Honestly I’d say if I didn’t hate Severson and it was someone like Noah Dobson I’d take that for Marner all day.

31 Jul 2019 01:34:16
This devils guy is a complete joke. I seen quantity but no quality and Flames will sign Tkachuk they have 3 options. Buyout stone, trade brodie, trade frolik. Youve lost all credibility in your short time here. Thanks try again

31 Jul 2019 05:41:09
A 40 point 25 year old RD, a recent 12 OA and two first isn’t quality? Not the type of trade Calgary makes I’m thinking but it’s not just scraps.

31 Jul 2019 14:39:16
I would consider this for Calgary, but it just doesn't seem to strike a need. The only reason to take cheaper players is to sign tkachuk.

From NJ it seems like trade for tkachuk to let hall go at trade deadline?

31 Jul 2019 16:47:15
9/ 13 forwards can play center on Calgary according to cap friendly.

01 Aug 2019 00:31:25
If tkachuk is going to NJ, Hall is forsure thr main piece and probably the only piece coming back

01 Aug 2019 14:38:04
You would need more than Hall. he is a UFA at the end of the season.

30 Jul 2019 00:31:55
Anaheim Trades
NRitchie

Toronto Trades
Hyman

Thoughts ?

Agree5 Disagree16

30 Jul 2019 01:40:27
Anaheim would have to add. Hyman is a top six player. Ritchie is bottom six player. A second line forward is more valuable than a third line player in the same position.

30 Jul 2019 02:45:11
Anaheim declines.

30 Jul 2019 04:19:53
Ritchie > Hyman easily.

30 Jul 2019 06:37:48
hYmaN iS a ToP 6 pLaYEr.

30 Jul 2019 14:52:57
Drake caggiula and Brandon perlini play on hawks top 6 last year. I consider them bottom 6 players, not top 6. Hyman is a bottom 6 player that plays with the top six.

30 Jul 2019 22:52:06
TyBa, . There is no way in the world Ritchie has now value than Hyman. The guys plays tons of crucial minutes. Ritchie was drafted 5 years ago and has really done nothing. Heart and soul players like Hyman have a lot more value.

31 Jul 2019 00:20:28
Interesting how someone posted a NRitchie for Puljujarvi trade and it's almost even with Agree and Disagree when Puljujarvi has been a complete bust, this is a more fair trade than that one and zero agrees.
Are we Leaf or Pinball bias on here or both?

31 Jul 2019 00:25:39
So isn't NRitchie really a Bottom 6 playing in the Top 6 to then Shootsmcgee?

31 Jul 2019 01:35:08
Hyman > Ritchie imo. Hyman plays a much more important game

31 Jul 2019 07:33:17
I'd still take Puljujarvis all-world upside over a random bottom 6er like Hyman that you find on every street's corner any day of the week and twice on sunday.

29 Jul 2019 22:39:44
To MIN -
Kyle Brodziak ( 1yr / 1.15M )
Sam Gagner ( 1yr / 3.15M )
Brandon Manning ( 1yr / 2.25M )
Jesse Puljujarvi ( RFA )

To EDM -
Zach Parise ( 6yr / 7.53M ) (30% Salary Retained)

Minnesota unloads a huge contract and gains servicable players that will become UFAs next year and Puljujärvi who may become a good player if given a change of scenery.

Edmonton gets a top 6 LW at a retained salary.



Leon Draisaitl - Connor McDavid - James Neal

Zach Parise - Ryan Nugent-Hopkins - Alex Chiasson

Tomas Jurco - Markus Granlund - Kailer Yamamoto

Joakim Nygard - Jujhar Khaira - Josh Archibald



Jason Zucker - Eric Staal - Mats Zuccarello

Jordan Greenway - Joel Eriksson Ek - Kevin Fiala

Luke Kunin - Mikko Koivu - Jesse Puljujarvi

Marcus Foligno - Victor Rask - Sam Gagner

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30 Jul 2019 00:14:19
Why on earth would min trade praise for that like of junk. Please show your work.

30 Jul 2019 01:09:51
Redwing, For the sake of unloading a huge contract and they gain around 6million in cap space next year and add a top prospect if we can call pully that

30 Jul 2019 01:34:47
And if Parise retires early, the cap implications for Edmonton is severely damaging for a team so close to the cap.

30 Jul 2019 02:51:03
Edm should not do this. Parise at 30% retained is a big gamble. If he starts to drop off (or gets injured) they're paying an old player for nothing.

30 Jul 2019 04:21:38
Ah, yes. The Oilers are basically in cap hell because of their contracts, so they trade all of the bad expiring contracts for a one that ends in 6 years.

What dude. Minnesota wins this one.

31 Jul 2019 00:27:03
No they wouldn’t @hockey fanatic actually Minnesota would receive the penalty.

29 Jul 2019 17:54:32
Dallas: Julius Honka
Carolina: Trevor van Riemsdyk

Honka looks to be on the way out of dallas, Carolina just drafted his brother Anttoni in the 3rd round this year so would re-unite him with his brother in Carolina.

Dallas gets TVR as a good depth guy.

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29 Jul 2019 18:59:51
I mean, yeah, sure.
Both bottom 6 defencemen.

29 Jul 2019 21:23:33
Tvr is what he is, honka I still think has untapped potential though might never come through so think it's a good trade. Dallas knows what they getting and Carolina Hope's honka will turn into what he was projected as.

30 Jul 2019 01:32:49
Why would Carolina want Honka in return when they are already stuffed like turkey dinner without defensemen?

29 Jul 2019 17:47:12
Anaheim: Nick Ritchie
Edmonton: Jesse Puljajarvi

Change of scenery trade, both players get a new start with a new team,

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29 Jul 2019 20:02:57
Nick Ritchie is better. Good power forward

29 Jul 2019 21:28:25
Ritchie is better now, no doubt but sometimes take a flyer on a dude. Some players don't really hit their stride for a few years in. Seguin was a disappointment in boston and became one of the top forwards in the league after being traded. Just got to wait it out a bit sometimes.

29 Jul 2019 22:24:05
True, but depends on if anaheim wants to win before Getzlaf retires. Giving up a proven player for an unproven player wouldn't make sense

29 Jul 2019 16:10:15
Minnesota Trades
Parise
Pateryn

Toronto Trades
Hyman
Ceci
FGauthier
Holl

Minnesota also retains 50% of Parise's remaining 6yr Contract.


Thoughts?

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29 Jul 2019 15:44:56
I don't see why Leafs would do this.
Parise is old and overplayed. Patyrn, we had him on Montreal, nothing special. Hyman has grit and character . Ceci isn't nearly as horrible as everyone says.

29 Jul 2019 17:57:09
I want to punch a wall or something. I know nobody is forcing me to look at this site, but seeing the same moronic things everyday is going to make me insane. Pinball, proposing the same crappy players from t. o. they are worth water bottles and a few pucks. Hyman the only one with a little value . You really think minny would retain 50% for 6 years? That's pinball logic, I use that term with friends and they have no idea what I'm talking about but it's funny to me.

29 Jul 2019 19:03:37
Parise at 3.5/ yr is a steal.
60 point forward on the Wild.
He can still be that veteran presence that scores 20G and 50P per season for the next few years.
Parise is a big part of the offence in the Wild, and they just get 4th line players and a 3rd pairing overpaid defenceman.

Leafs are giving up scraps and get Parise insanely cheap.

29 Jul 2019 19:10:50
Hull and Gauthier are AHL’ers, Ceci is a 5/ 6 Dman at best making 4.5 mil, and Hyman is a solid 3rd liner with grossly overinflated stats playing with first liners.

Pinball, you offer the same garbage every time you make a proposal. Offer some better players or stop posting. No way Minnesota retains 50% of Parise’s contract when they’re getting a 3rd liner and trash in return.

30 Jul 2019 01:30:31
Praise also has one of those extra special long, now illegal, mega-contracts Luke Luongo had. If he retires early, this could have serious negative effects for the Leafs, as the remainder of the contract would still count against the cap.

27 Jul 2019 21:08:45
MOVE ONE:
IF Rangers move NAMESTNIKOV @ 4,000,000 and BUCHNEVICH @ 3,250,000 to Edmonton they would have 3,093,534 in cap space but if Edmonton sent back Ganger, Brodziak and Puljujarvi then the Rangers would only be 1,206,466 over the cap (which is better then the 4,156,466 they are currently at) and Edmonton rids themselves of a Puljujarvi.
As for Edmonton, they currently have 2,433,001 in cap space, they move out some salary and a player not wanting to be here and are then sitting at 6,733,001 of cap space less the 7,250,000 for the 2 Rangers they aquired are over by 516,999 on the cap.
This would require a second deal, enter Ottawa.
MOVE TWO:
Edmonton trades with Ottawa for PAGEAU and DUCLAIR (why those 2, cause one is going to be UFA and one is going to be a RFA next year) adding them would put Edmonton 5,266,999 over the cap but if Edmonton sends back to Ottawa RUSSELL, MANNING and BEAR (we can afford to give a young D back) we are giving back 6,970,000 in salary still leaves us with 1,703,001 in cap space.

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27 Jul 2019 22:59:52
Both deals seem don’t really make sense imo.
Buchnevich and Namestnikov for a cap dump, a player that’s a fringe 4th liner and another that doesn’t even have a contract

Pageau is a cap dump.
Duclair is like a third line player. struggles everywhere on the ice in most games.
Ethan Bear has the most value in that trade.
Also, why would Ottawa want Manning and Russell? as surprising as it is, Duclair seems to fit in Ottawa.

Not that bad though.

27 Jul 2019 23:23:47
They litterly signed Buchnevich today.

28 Jul 2019 02:52:21
rangers would laugh in your face.

28 Jul 2019 08:56:25
Rangers get bent over and makes no sense for ottawa

30 Jul 2019 03:56:44
why is pageau a cap dump?

30 Jul 2019 07:15:16
He isn’t really that good in any part of his game.
He’s just mediocre and inconsistent.
And 3.1 a year for him?

30 Jul 2019 10:01:49
you should watch hockey more often rather than looking up stats for everything.

27 Jul 2019 17:56:42
Minnesota Trades
Zucker
Pateryn

Toronto Trades
Hyman
Ceci
4th Round Pick 2020

Thoughts?

Agree3 Disagree23

27 Jul 2019 17:25:54
Do you just pick names off rosters and throw them out there? Or are you being serious with your trades? Maybe pick some player with value off Toronto to get another teams good player. Its not that complicated.

27 Jul 2019 18:36:03
Not even close to getting Zucker.

27 Jul 2019 21:07:56
Zucker was going to be traded a bit ago for a prospect and a 2nd Round Pick.
That's less than I proposed.
Leafs will have a 92.05m Salary Cap when the Season starts after Clarkson and Horton are put on LTIR and Marner is signed at the start of the season as a replacement contract so they will be adding.

27 Jul 2019 21:05:17
You didn't offer a prospect or a 2nd.

Also if Zucker was that cheap he'd already be traded.

27 Jul 2019 23:02:02
Zucker for a prospect and a 2nd.
Imo none of those players that the Leafs are giving up are worth a second.
(Hyman mayyyybee but holy crap are his numbers inflated. )
Ceci sucks. Just overall, in every aspect of his game he sucks.

Damn, I’d take Pateryn over Ceci and not pay 4.5M.
Pateryn = Ceci
Zucker >> Hyman, 4th.

27 Jul 2019 17:51:52
Buffalo Trades
Ristolainen
Sheary

Nashville Trades
RYJohansen


Thoughts ?

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27 Jul 2019 21:05:42
Ryan Johansen worth more.

27 Jul 2019 23:03:12
Value wise it’s fair imo.

29 Jul 2019 21:17:21
This ones alright, have monkey saying not enough and tbay saying it's fair and pretty even with agrees and disagrees so this is probably even. Myself think it's ok, johanson the best player but sheary evens it out
enough imo. I still think a small add by buffalo but only a late pick or something .

30 Jul 2019 00:16:54
Man risto stock sure has fallen off a cliff. I remember buff fans saying he was better than several prominent #dmen.

 


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