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16 May 2018 03:13:35
Arizona:OEL
Chicago: 8th Overall, 27th Overall, 2019 2nd,2020 2nd

Would this be enough for OEL?

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16 May 2018 07:05:21
I bet you Arizona takes those low picks but also want an established player as well.

16 May 2018 14:33:40
And Chicago can’t afford to give up all those young pieces for one year of OEL. They need young cheap players coming in. And would have a really hard time keeping OEL past this season unless big money left somewhere, either to Arizona in this deal or elsewhere. And if it’s seabrook leaving, you’re including other young good cheap assets to do it. If it’s kieth, Crawford, Kane or toews leaving then you’re losing some of the intrigue to want to play there in the first place. I think it’s a bad fit all around.

16 May 2018 15:13:34
Ya i'd think theyd ask for the two first rd picks which are great and maybe a roster player. But Chicago honestly should keep they're draft pick they're already old and Ik Ekman Larson isn't just 26 but still huge age gap between 18 year old player and 26-27 year old players.

16 May 2018 15:16:06
Chicago should keep those 2 picks and get a good young player in the draft maybe Walstrom or Takchuck if he falls out of the top 5 like he probably will. I see Vancouver getting Ekman Larsob tho because they already have a bunch of good young players and need a star LHD.

16 May 2018 15:53:04
Arizona needs to start winning hockey games this season. If they trade OEL, they need a decent established player coming back. As somebody else mentioned to which I'll reiterate, Chicago needs young, cheap players not a year of OEL.

16 May 2018 02:06:01
Calgary- Doug Hamilton, Adam Fox
Carolina - 1st around Pick

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16 May 2018 02:43:16
Lol 2 more defenseman ya Carolina really needs that 🙄.

16 May 2018 02:45:28
The last thing Carolina needs is another dman lol.

16 May 2018 04:40:59
No from Carolina, they need offense not more defense.

16 May 2018 05:02:38
No way from Calgary. First they trade Hamilton then you want them to add? Big no from calgary

16 May 2018 05:05:25
Calgary should keep Hamilton.

16 May 2018 05:06:04
But. Carolina says no. That winger availing there is more valuable.

15 May 2018 21:53:04
Montreal :
Pacioretty
3rd round pick 2019

Dallas :
J Spezza
R Hintz
9th ovr pick

Yes there is a lot going to montreal but they take on spezza's contract. I know that the draft is in Dallas but I think this could be a good move for the stars because they would have the cap space to sign someone like Statsny/Maroon/Grabner afterwards.

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16 May 2018 00:47:21
It's a good trade not going to lie but spezza won't go to a Canadian team.

16 May 2018 00:48:51
the asking price for pacioretty was crazy high from bergevin apparently he asked for vilardi and 1st from La Kings which is basically a top 10 pick plus another mid 1st rounder so idk if he will settle on this.

16 May 2018 14:51:29
I would t do it if I’m Dallas. My feelings on pacioretty are well established on this site lol but he’s a real good player, not a great player. He’s a 4th or 5th best on a great team and that’s not what I would be trading a top 10 pick for. Devils traded 9th overall for Schneider who was a star for them for a few years after in the most important individual position, not a winger with 1 year left before a big raises, pushing 30 years old and coming off an atrocious season. And that 9th became Bo Horvat. In a pretty deep draft again, I wouldn’t wanna miss on a prospect like that for a year of a winger who would be behind seguin, Benn, Klingberg, and radulov as most important/ impactful on the team.

16 May 2018 16:04:42
I get your point but I think that getting spezza's contract off the books is already worth a lot, more than Hintz alone. So I think Patches and the 9th balance the trade.

16 May 2018 17:37:55
It’s almost guaranteed for 1 year because seguins contract is up the same time as Patches. So he’s getting paid 10 mill probably and then patches will want 6.5-7 probably. Don’t see it happening and I’d keep the top 10 pick. Should get a good player that could be playing for $850k the following year when seguins raise kicks in.

16 May 2018 18:23:43
Doesn't Dallas pick 13th, not 9th? Or am I missing something? I thought the Rangers are at 9.

16 May 2018 19:50:50
This is beyond terrible for Mtl
And they don’t need another old overpaid player.

15 May 2018 20:21:44
jets have a wonderful cap situation. enstrom coming off the books clears up space for hellebuyck, morrissey and trouba this offseason, and the next offseason mason comes off the books, which will make things tight, as laine will be getting a hefty salary and wheeler a raise.

to Vegas
Kulikov

to Winnipeg
Merrill
5th

Vegas gets a more talented and experienced defenseman while Winnipeg gets some salary relief and a young extra defenseman.

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16 May 2018 15:14:30
Kulikov is a cap dump at this point so Winipeg would have to be the ones sending a pick and not just a 5th one. Probably a second rounder to get rid of the enigmatic Russian.

15 May 2018 19:44:47
what would it take for montreal to get the a pick in the region of 12-14

Unavailable players and picks are

Drouin
Galchenyuk
Price
Mete
Weber
3OVA
Danault

Can this do it

Poehling, 2018 2nd, 2018 2nd from toronto and Washington.

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15 May 2018 20:01:50
and Gallagher.

15 May 2018 21:33:17
So you are saying they should trade their best prospect and 2 possibly good prospects for a player that won't be much better than Poehling? AND Gallagher?

15 May 2018 21:56:19
why the hell would you give all that for a mid round pick. i say try and get top 10 or it ain't worth it.

16 May 2018 15:15:57
No from mtl unless were getting another top 5 pick lol. Gallagher and Phoeling should get you a pick in the top 10 by themself.

15 May 2018 19:08:19
Toronto - 25th overall, F - Jeremy Bracco,
D - Andrew Nielson

Vegas - D - Colin Miller

No surprise that the leafs are looking to upgrade the RD. Miller would fit nicely with Rielly, fits today’s NHL with his mobility, has a cannon of a shot for the PP that the leafs haven’t had since Bryan McCabe. He’s 25 years old so fits with the leafs core age group.

Also he’s from Ste St Marie and was discovered playing triple A hockey and given a chance in the OHL by Kyle Dubas who was the gm of the greyhounds atvthe time. He was then captain of dubas team there and won leadership awards. All things that Shanahan and Babcock favour. All GMs have ‘their guys’and this could be dubas’s way of putting his fingerprint on the team early.

From Vegas, they get back into the first round after trading their 1st for Tomas Tatar. They also get a small skilled forward prospect in Bracco. They have had success with marchesseault, traded for Tatar and used a 1st last year to draft nick Suzuki. So small skilled seems to be in their plans. Nielsen is a good D in the AHL and was close to the nhl this year but he siince been passed by dermott and liljegren.

Because Vegas has done so well, people forget how early in the process they are. They still need to build an alentire system and prospect pipeline. A first and 2 young players with potential helps that.

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15 May 2018 19:20:43
With Miller being a rfa the leafs could just sign him to a contract over 4,060,000. At which it'll only cost them a 1st rounder and a 3rd round pick. The leafs could still flip bracco for a 3rd and still have Neilson in the pipeline.

15 May 2018 19:46:30
Yeah but I think they want the player, don’t want to alienate a possible trade partner for the future and Vegas would easily match a multi year deal at $4 mill.

15 May 2018 20:38:59
You could probably just do a sign and trade with Vegas. 4yr @ 4m to bring in miller who I think would be a better fit with Reilly.

Costs bracco Neilson and San Jose's second and we can use our first in hopes of that all star dman we've been dying for.

15 May 2018 21:39:58
You’re not getting a 25 year old Dman who put up 41 pts and is having a breakout year/ playoff for 4 years at a great cap hit without including a 1st. I’m a leaf fan, I’d love that, but I call out people that low ball trades on here, I think it would take what I said to get him.

15 May 2018 21:44:45
A late 2nd and a B and a C prospect does not get you a 25 year old top 4 RHD. It just doesn’t.

16 May 2018 00:50:24
a late 2nd you mean a late 1st? Unbiased gim.

16 May 2018 13:11:35
No MTL4LIFE I mean a late 2nd. He just recommended swapping the first I offered for San Jose’s 2nd. I said that’s not enough.

16 May 2018 15:10:55
Miller had 1 good season. Doesn't mean hell keep it up. let's evaluate him as a decent top 4 D that could become that could become great if he continues his play. Has a lot to learn in order to be a solid top 4 D.

16 May 2018 17:54:01
I’m not saying he’s a star, give him time to prove he’s a top pair d? That’s fair. But i Don’t think he needs to prove to anyone he can play top 4 on just about any team in the league, especially on the leafs where he would be replacing Ron Hainsey. If your 4th best Dman is Colin miller, I’d say you’re doing alright. That tells me he’s a good top 4.

15 May 2018 18:50:55
I know this may be a long shot but both these players aren't worth their contract imo Shaw has value because of his attitude on ice and grid but Rask just isn't putting enough points.

Montreal trades:
Andrew shaw +?

Carolina trades:
Victor Rask

I'm pretty sure montreal needs to add to it but what should they add.
Plz don't say something like Galchenyuk for Rask because its never going to happen just need to know what should be added and this is the base of the trade

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15 May 2018 20:12:35
Carolina would need something more than shaw plus parts to trade rask. that team is trying to upgrade its quality not quantity so I don't know why they'd trade a good player for multiple less good things.

15 May 2018 20:14:30
Don’t see shaw as someone that many teams value. Especially not with multi years left at $4mill. They traded 2 2nds for him and gave him that contract to be playoff ready because his big game success in Chicago and at the same time traded Lars Eller for 2 2nds because he wasn’t competitive enough to play in the tougher games. Now shaw is a paperweight and eller is going beast mode in the playoffs! Lol when does it stop being the player and start being the team/ atmosphere?!

15 May 2018 18:37:53
Mtl: Pacioretty
Tampa : gourde + sustr

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16 May 2018 15:11:09
No thanks, Gpurde had 1 great season but no proven enough and not young he's 26 year old. If where getting a player that old for Patches i'd rather get Johnson who's actually a center. Mtl adds though.

15 May 2018 06:19:05
TOR- 23rd, 52nd, Carrick
CHI- 27th, Murphy

Big 25 year old RHD that plays a physical game. Might just need a bigger role to have a breakout season.

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15 May 2018 15:44:28
Don’t think it’s worth downgrading just to move up 4 spots.

15 May 2018 19:50:57
Hawks need Murphy and his 4 or 5 years term at 3.8 million. If carrick never gets better, hawks lose the trade big time. If he does get better, he will get paid too and they lose the advantage of cost certainty. Makes no sense.

15 May 2018 21:01:01
I figure Murphy would be a good target for the Leafs and Chicago might want to sell some players for futures. You guys think those are some good pieces? Take out the 2nd and 27th maybe?

15 May 2018 04:08:10
Vancouver:
1st Round Draft pick 2018 (7OA)

Carolina:
LD - Noah Hanifin $0.925 - RFA

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15 May 2018 08:16:25
Could imagine Carolina wants a little more to sweeten the deal. However if Wahlstrom is available could see Carolina pulling the trigger.

15 May 2018 10:47:53
Why would they pull the trigger though? Hanifin was drafted 5 overall and definitely wasn't a bust he was a really good pick. So why would they slide 2 picks down. he's only 21 year old I don't ger it. If they gain 1 row like the 4th overall it makes sense but no they would take a maybe great player for a guaranteed great player.

15 May 2018 12:50:02
Colt because once a players drafted it doesn't matter when they were picked? Theyd do it if they liked a player sitting there at 7 better than Hanifin and wouldn't if they dont. If there is a very good forward prospect left its possible because of D strength and F weakness.

15 May 2018 14:11:58
Yeah, doesn’t matter draft position after a year or 2. And if they think they can get a kid as good as hanifin that they like then they would. Because that would buy them 3 more years before they have to pay him as hanifin is going to get a big raise and they already are committed to 3-4 other Dmen long term.

15 May 2018 15:46:12
Carolina has weak forwards i'd imagine they’d be extremely happy if they could take Wahlstrom (best sniper in draft) for Hanifin.

16 May 2018 03:28:54
Colt: would you not say yes to trading to get a top 10 pick if someone offered that for yakupov because he was drafted 1st overall?

 


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