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27 Aug 2018 21:54:58
OTT: Karlsson

EDM:
- R. Nugent Hopkins
- O. Klefbom
- '19 1st
- '20 2nd

then

OTT: Klefbom

WPG: Trouba

Dzingel - Duchene - Boedker
Nuge - Brown - Stone
Tkachuk - Pageau - Ryan
Smith - Chlapik - White

Chabot - Trouba
Wolanin - Ceci
Boroweicki - Wideman

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27 Aug 2018 22:15:13
So Sens Get Trouba, RNH, 1st and 2nd for a year of Karlsson?! Lol not going to happen.

27 Aug 2018 22:28:07
There is no chance the Jets trade Trouba for Klefbom even though the trade is fair. 3 of the Jets next 4 NHL ready d-men are left shots so the need for a lefty is not as big as it was a year or two ago. The Jets will either sign Trouba long term or move him at the 2019 draft. There are many teams that want a skilled #1 pairing r-shot d-man and will line up to get Trouba from the Jets.

27 Aug 2018 22:36:42
Yeah that is preposterous.

27 Aug 2018 23:13:12
I highly doubt the Oilers would give up that much for one year of Karlsson. Plus, the Jets wouldn't do a 1 for 1 swap of Trouba and Klefbom.

27 Aug 2018 23:50:24
Well i would assume that there would be an extension in place for Karl.

27 Aug 2018 23:53:27
And wpg only gets klefbom for Trouba. jeez.

28 Aug 2018 00:16:03
If the jets think that trouba won't sign long term (still not sure if it's he doesn't want to be in Winnipeg or his agent and him are overvaluing him) then I'd do that trade.

28 Aug 2018 01:09:38
That would be great for the Sens if they could pull this off. I can't see these trades happening.

28 Aug 2018 01:28:52
That's too much from EDM, take out huge and put in a good prospect.

28 Aug 2018 03:49:43
Lol. If Klefbom could get Trouba then I think why wouldn't Edm just do that separate trade and keep Nuge and the picks. Seems like a better deal there.

28 Aug 2018 16:23:08
@Hoff saying you assume there’s a contract in place for Karlsson after I say it’s too much for 1 year is fine if you’re just commenting on the thread. But it’s your thread lol if it's contract in place, just say it is or it isn’t, you don’t need to assume.

29 Aug 2018 00:08:17
@Unbiased Jim . I thought you would be able to assume that there would be . guess not. there's a reason teams are allowed to talk extensions with Karl before a trade.

29 Aug 2018 15:14:36
I’m aware of that. But he’s going to get traded to the best offer regardless (or should) . If he only wants to sign in Tampa, and yzerman has wind of this, he may not offer as much as he should, because technically he’s only trading for him for this year too if he would sign there for free in July. So Maybe oilers or Dallas etc offer more, or atleast an equal package and it gets him out of their division (which apparently matters to Ottawa) . There’s still multiple options with him. There’s no guarantee he ends up for the next 8 years at his #1 choice right away.

27 Aug 2018 21:22:16
Ott - Karlsson, 4th

TB - Sergachev, Johnson, 1st

then

Ott - Ceci, Smith

Phi - Simmonds, 2nd

finally

Ott - Anderson

Anyone - 4th and free Gatorade in locker room for a year.

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27 Aug 2018 22:16:03
Philly gets robbed lol.

27 Aug 2018 22:22:00
NBR 2.0?

27 Aug 2018 22:38:37
Can't be Rambo. He stated numerous times that Karlsson would net Point, Sergachev, and two firsts.

28 Aug 2018 02:16:36
Sergachev had 40 points his rookie season. Unless it’s a sign and trade I can’t see Sergachev being involved.

If Sergachev gets 50+ points next season, wouldn’t he have more value being he’s 8 years younger?

28 Aug 2018 05:32:00
As a Lightning fan I've become comfortable with the idea of Sergachev moving for an extended Karlsson Serg is a great long term piece but Karlsson is Karlsson and bolts are in win now mode. Sergachev Johnson 1st is a package i'd do, but likely want a half decent forward coming back and would likely need to find a 3rd team still for Ryan.

27 Aug 2018 04:49:57
Detroit trades: Svechnikov

Carolina trades: Bean

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27 Aug 2018 05:52:53
No from Carolina.

30 Aug 2018 13:21:52
No from Detroit Svechnikov is a keeper.

26 Aug 2018 06:46:33
To OTT:
Pacioretty, Weber & McCarron

To MTL:
Karlson, Ryan, Conditional 1st or 2nd 2019 (if Pacioretty signs extension it becomes a 1st)



To TOR:
Weber (retain 25%)

To OTT:
Nylander





Or

To TOR:
Weber (retain 25%) & McCarron

To MTL:
Nylander & 2nd 2019

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26 Aug 2018 14:47:17
Oh boy, I don't even know where to start.

26 Aug 2018 15:51:50
Well 1st of all no to Nylander for Weber from a Toronto POV unless if they retain 50%.

26 Aug 2018 17:06:47
Second Ottawa doesn't have their 2019 pick.

26 Aug 2018 21:53:18
wait what.

26 Aug 2018 23:10:59
Thirdly, leafs wouldn’t pay a 2nd for mccarron lol they already have Gauthier, and wouldn’t get close to a 2nd rounder for him. So why pay that for a similar player we don’t need?

27 Aug 2018 11:56:04
Leafs are not Trading a 22yr old Star Forward for a 32yr old Defenceman that won't play until Christmas, if Montreal added a Prospect and they switched 1st Round Picks maybe but why would the Leafs weaken themselves this Season with Matthews and Marner contracts up after this Season, for Montreal sure they do it.

27 Aug 2018 18:47:57
I was hoping the weber trades would stop until he least got back from his injury. We'll so much for that.

27 Aug 2018 22:21:27
Yeah, all we can do is assume Weber is still going to be great when he returns. Reality is he’s not a young guy, had hard miles on his body and has run into injury problems. He’s not untradable by any means, but until he’s back and playing 90%+ of where he used to be, you can get the thought of getting a Nylander type return out of your head.

25 Aug 2018 16:28:21
WPG: Morrisey
CGY: Hannifin

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25 Aug 2018 17:22:10
Its a fair trade proposal that would never happen. Morrissey is the Jets #1 left shot d-man and the Flames just traded for Hannifin. Neither team would do it.

25 Aug 2018 19:37:02
Winnipeg would do it. Calgary wouldn’t though.

25 Aug 2018 20:00:36
Um pretty sure Winnipeg would gladly do that trade but not Calgary.

25 Aug 2018 20:22:31
Calgary says no.

25 Aug 2018 22:17:48
I have not once seen one of these Peg fans suggest that Winnipeg would do a trade. Their players are simply far too valuable.

26 Aug 2018 15:38:37
A 23 man roster of untouchables lol the perfect team.

26 Aug 2018 21:59:33
As much as. I hate agreeing with the Jets fans on this page, in a year or 2 Morrissey will be the better dman. Severely underated.

27 Aug 2018 04:50:43
Yup. No reason to trade Morrissey. He's the the left half of the top pairing on the second best team in the NHL.

27 Aug 2018 11:53:52
why would calgary trade a player they literally just traded for this quickly?

27 Aug 2018 11:56:20
why would calgary do this if they just acquired him?

27 Aug 2018 13:22:57
Now I can disagree we the Jets fans once again. They are not the 2nd best team in the league. They are a damn good team but not 2nd best.

27 Aug 2018 13:56:22
‘Second best’

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Season hasn't even started buddy. You just made the playoffs last year, and that's because your goalie finally decided to wake up and play decently. If he plays anywhere near where he was two years ago when yall brought in Steve Mason, yall aren't even a top10 team🤣🤣🤣. So quit tooting your horn too early.

27 Aug 2018 15:54:38
This site is funny. Lol. Facts have absolutely no place here. The Jets were the second best team in the NHL last year, but sometimes here, they weren't the second best team last season. Lol.

27 Aug 2018 16:19:52
The fact is that two teams went to the Stanly Cup Final. Jets were not one of them.

27 Aug 2018 17:42:18
Maybe we should wait to see if Winnipeg can put together more than one good season in franchise history before calling them the 2nd best team.

27 Aug 2018 18:21:57
Thunder turkey literally just won the argument so this should be done with now lol.

27 Aug 2018 18:49:41
Statistically on the surface they are the 4th to best team but analytically + a surface analysis ( roster on paper ) of their roster suggests other wise. I’ll take Pittsburgh, Toronto, Tampa, Nashville and Washington over then next season.

28 Aug 2018 08:42:51
Still the best Canadian team, . If Talbot returns to form then they may have a battle with Edmonton for that title . I think only team on paper that's better is Bolts. but I guess this is why games are played.
Best forward core in the leagues
Top 5 D core in the league
Vezina finalist.
Hard team to beat .
Not sure how they will pull it off, but has chance to be a BlackHawks kinda dynasty.

28 Aug 2018 21:02:45
Edmonton better then Toronto? What? Are you high? Talbot could be the best goalie ever and they still can’t make the playoffs with Milian Lucic as a top 6 forward.

28 Aug 2018 22:10:01
Sosa is a secret Oiler fan vbb’s. His favourite player is Draisaitl. I actually think Winnipeg, Toronto and Edmonton will have the cup back in Canada before long. To leave Toronto out of the conversation of best Canadian team is absurd. Typical of a Montreal/ Edmonton fan though I guess. However, Canadian teams haven’t done anything in a long time, nobody should be too high and mighty on them.

29 Aug 2018 01:14:58
Not high. but yes. Edmonton could be much better than T. O. ya. you got Tavares. however. did ya do anything to fix your real issues
. nope. and your 1 2of Mathews and Tavares. . well. Give me McDavid and Draisaitl any day.
All the hate on Lucic. well. also kinda what u need. Leafs are soft.
Everyone complains bout Sekera. well. probably a top 4 on your team.
A decent year from Talbot. and Oilers beat Leafs in 7 game series in 6.

29 Aug 2018 02:06:46
Lol. Leafs 17. not a secret. I like the Oilers. my second team forsure. any Canadian team I get behind, for some reason, jus not huge on Nucks or Sens. I even like your Leafs. yes, I like Drais., but no. fav is McDavid
.
Sorry Leaf fans. I jus see Oilers a goalie. away. possibly Talbot . to being far superior to your team

Ps. hey. your better than my Habs.

29 Aug 2018 03:31:17
Sosa, the Oilers d is nothing to write home about either and the leafs have proven wingers to go with their 1/ 2/ 3 center man. You’ve been quite critical of the leafs since the Tavares signing. I’m sure if there was a stud d man for them to sign they would have tried. They did get an excellent center in his prime and have players that can be traded for a defenseman, WHEN it’s the right deal. You don’t just drastically over pay because you need a RH d man.

29 Aug 2018 15:39:51
Ya I have been critical of the Leafs since the Tavsres signing. I believe they went off there course, ya sure adding a good centerman is always good. however, I just think this team coulda spent that money elsewhere. also. how does Mathews take this? He wants to be the man. but he's kinda second star now . I dunno. Leafs know what they are doing, I'm sure. they are the pros. I am not.

29 Aug 2018 18:00:27
I’m really not sure how you can say the oilers D is better then the leafs. Defensively they probably are but leafs have 2 dynamic Dman in Gardiner and Rielly and the leafs have 2 elite PKers in in Brown and Hyman the leafs defense is extremely underrated. Mathews and McDavid are really not that far apart yes McDavid is better but Mathews is the much better scorer and much better defensively. Tavares vs Drais imo isn’t a question. And The oilers wingers are about as good as the Marlies and is without a question the worst in the NHL.

29 Aug 2018 21:15:56
How do you know how Matthews feels? From everything I’ve read and interviews I’ve seen, he wants to win. Not every player is Jack Eichel. Obviously you didn’t read the rest of my response. If a Drew Doughty was available to be signed instead of Tavares, I’m sure they would have. Teams win with center depth. Of course they could’ve spent that money elsewhere but they can trade Nylander/ Kapanen/ Brown/ 1st or any combination to get a defenseman, WHEN it’s the right deal. Do you think any team would give the leafs a high end defenseman without a massive over payment? Also, McDavid is the only player on the oilers that is far superior to anyone on the leafs. You should take another look at their rosters.

24 Aug 2018 00:56:35
wsh-hobbs,2nd(2019)
tml-sparkes,leivo

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24 Aug 2018 18:33:36
Caps are fine for goalies and Leivo doesn't get Hobbs or a 2nd imo. Holtby, Copley, Samsonov is a nice top 3 for goalie depth.

24 Aug 2018 20:38:44
Samsonov is a good prospect for sure, but if I were running the caps, he would be playing a lot, whether in the AHL or Europe (not sure of his contract situation) . Backing up Holtby who is going to play 60+ games isn’t ideal for a young guy with that potential and Copely rocked almost a 3.00GAA and under a .900 save% in 41 AHL games last season. Doesn’t exactly scream confidence for 18-22 games this season with holtby on the bench (More if he gets hurt) . A back up needs to go .500 on a good team, I would t bet on that with him. Not sure if this is the right deal for them but saying their goalie depth is good for this upcoming season isn’t exactly true. Losing Grubrauer really hurt.

24 Aug 2018 20:52:44
I don’t know value wise of Hobbs really but I think Leafs are a good place to shop for a back up goalie. Mchillinney was good last season and is a proven veteran, I think Pickard is a capable backup and an upgrade on a few back ups and Sparks although not getting a chance to prove it in the NhL, he’s 52-18-1 in the AHL over the past 2 seasons with a combined 1.88GAA .929sv% and then went 14-5 with a .915% and a 2.22 gaa to win the Calder Cup. That’s as good of resume as you’re going to find on a guy that hasn’t got to prove it in the NHL. He’s not a guarantee at all, but he has value to teams looking for depth at that position.

24 Aug 2018 20:54:50
Yeah but Caps don’t need an unproven back up for next season like Sparks. Samsonov will play lots wether it’s in the KHL or AHL and when he’s ready Holtby will be backing him up/ traded just like Fluery and Bishop. They can sign a veteran free agent goalie if they need.

25 Aug 2018 04:59:59
Would Howard @50% retained from Wings be of interest to Caps? Looking for at least a 3rd, maybe becomes 2nd if re-signs or Caps make conference finals

Also if they no longer want Copley, we can take him to play back up and help us get Jack Hughes (I can dream haha)

Another option could be Lehtonen, would be a decent back up.

23 Aug 2018 22:56:50
Oil: Caggiula

Canes: McKeown.

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27 Aug 2018 11:55:18
one of the more fair deals i've seen on here for a while.

27 Aug 2018 11:57:53
i like it, one of the more fair posts i've seen here.

23 Aug 2018 21:33:20
New Jersey Devils:

Mikhail Maltsev
Travis Zajac (15%)
1st Round Pick 2019
2nd Round Pick 2019
2nd Round Pick 2020


St. Louis Blues:

Ryan O’Reilly



NJD Lineup: Top6

Hall - Hischier - Palmieri

Johansson - O’Reilly - Bratt.

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23 Aug 2018 22:25:05
So no from blues. lol.

23 Aug 2018 23:31:30
C/ mon! Why would the Blues trade O'Reilly after they just traded for him.

23 Aug 2018 23:51:32
st louis trades for orielly because they are in win now mode only to flip him before he skates for for them for futures?

nhl fanny more like it.

24 Aug 2018 00:46:55
That's stupid. Seriously stupid blues needed a center traded a few non essential pieces for him. Now they should trade him to mid for that crap. Lol your funny guy.

24 Aug 2018 00:48:55
So why did the Blues jus get him then?

27 Aug 2018 00:47:21
So I guess the one person disagreeing with sensible comments is the guy who posted this treasure of a proposal.

23 Aug 2018 21:23:03
Ottawa Trades
Karlsson

Toronto Trades
Sandin
1st Round Pick 2019
1st Round Pick 2020*
2nd Round Pick 2020
7th Round Pick 2020**

*Conditional Pick only if the Leafs resign Karlsson.
**Conditional Pick only if the Leafs don't resign Karlsson

Thoughts ?

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23 Aug 2018 22:26:38
Conditional picks will not be a thing if Karlsson is traded I feel it’s going to be a high pick regardless no condition.

23 Aug 2018 23:52:46
no money for an 11 million dollar dman after this season.

ottawa would want an nhl dman, not one 3 seasons away.

24 Aug 2018 11:27:57
Ottawa is rebuilding no NHL Roster Player (s) needed this Season for Karlsson, only rebuild future's and Draft Picks.

24 Aug 2018 11:33:28
Sandin
1st Round Pick 2019
2nd Round Pick 2020

For a 1 season player for Ottawa is enough alone.
Possible 1st Round Pick if he resigns in Toronto is an added bonus for both Teams.

24 Aug 2018 14:54:40
Not enough big pieces going back. Weren’t they asking for Heiskanen from Dallas, and Sergachev from Tampa. Pinball stop with this quantity for quality stuff and think about if you were the other team, there’s no way in hell you’d take this.

24 Aug 2018 18:39:20
I hope to god the leafs don’t pay that for one season of Karlsson but that’s what’d it take.

24 Aug 2018 23:36:53
Pinball, sens ain't going to drive bomb the season on purpose just to let Colorado get the top pick, they need a suitable replacement plus top prospect and picks. Your saying what a team in that position would take, sure wouldn't give up as much for a 1 year rental as teams that can resign him but that doesn't mean they'll get him with a lesser package because Sens would be like, ya, he's only a rental for you so you can have him for less, just dumb.

25 Aug 2018 06:14:57
Your bias gets more and more ridiculous.

27 Aug 2018 11:51:08
Kessel was basically traded for Kapanen and Draft Picks, so yes in Ottawa's situation I would Trade Karlsson for something similar to what I proposed, the only high draft picks they will get are from non playoff teams and they won't trade those for a UFA after this season.
If anyone on here thinks Ottawa will get a Top 10 pick this year for Karlsson you are dreaming.

27 Aug 2018 11:53:21
Yes ProDepth Ottawa was asking for Heiskanen from Dallas and Sergachev from Tampa Bay and that's why he is still in Ottawa, no Team will give Ottawa that type of Player for Karlsson, if Ottawa is like you waiting for that type of Deal he will play out the Year for the Sens then walk away as a Free Agent just like Tavares did this Summer, what I proposed isn't unlike what any other contender will offer Ottawa.
Not saying he is Traded to the Leafs just that the package will be similar to what I posted.

27 Aug 2018 11:50:19
You’re the main reason people troll leafs fans! But it’s easy and fun so keep going, good luck next yr losing again!

23 Aug 2018 21:16:13
Montreal Canadiens acquires:

Calvin Pickard
6th Round Pick 2019


Toronto Maple Leafs acquires:

Jacob de la Rose
Matthew Peca.

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24 Aug 2018 00:49:41
Hes not needed on Habs.

24 Aug 2018 03:42:37
Why would habs do this Golie is there deepest position.

24 Aug 2018 05:52:44
Eventhough montreal would be crazy to accept this why would toronto do this. It would mean they would either have to lose a player or two from there current lineup to make room or put the two players they are getting back on waivers (in which they would both be claimed ) before they could send them to the minors. If Pickard gets dealt at all I think it will be for a pick or a prospect or a 1 for 1 swap for a 4th liner or a depth dman.

24 Aug 2018 05:53:12
Or he just ends up on waivers.

 


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