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20 Jun 2017 21:01:21
Vegas has 7 first rounders this year. IF only this was 2015.

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21 Jun 2017 00:18:39
When do the results of the expansion draft happen?

21 Jun 2017 02:15:58
Think they donthe big reveal at rhe awards ceremony. However, the next day some of those guys could be traded away. from what i'm lead to believe.

20 Jun 2017 00:08:20
I thought I would have a little fun.
Few trade tHoughton.

Toronto trades:
Jvr

NYI trades
Hamonic
2017 2nd

Toronto trades:
Brown

Minnesota or vegas trades:
Dumba

Toronto trades:
Gardiner
Leipsic
Brassco
NYI 2nd in 2017

Colorado trades:
Langescov

Edmonton trades:
Eberle

Coloradon trades:
Barrie

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20 Jun 2017 01:39:14
Barrie is worth more than eberle and dumba is worth more than dumba.

20 Jun 2017 13:01:09
In what year does soon to be UFA JVR fetch Hamonic and a 2nd?

20 Jun 2017 17:41:52
How is dumba worth more than dumba? 🤔🤔.

20 Jun 2017 17:50:48
I want Langescov on my team now!

20 Jun 2017 19:48:23
Lol my bad dumba is worth more than brown.

21 Jun 2017 02:00:30
I think take out the second in the NYI one, or make it like a 4th an your good.

Brown doesn't get DUmba imo.

I'd rather keep all that than trade for Landy who we don't need. I feel like Landy will be the next Dustin Brown.

EDmonton adds for barrie.

18 Jun 2017 23:32:21
Adam Pelech. hm.

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18 Jun 2017 19:45:47
So how many 1st round picks does Vegas end up with?
It sounds like they have already acquired ones from Anaheim, NYI and Columbus already.

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19 Jun 2017 09:09:32
Forget which TSN guy said it but he thinks Vegas already had a deal with 9 teams. Still lots of time yet.

19 Jun 2017 12:39:29
Just this year or no? doesn't Anaheims 1st go to Dallas for Eaves?

19 Jun 2017 15:03:48
It seems te deal w Anaheim involves their 2nd this year and prospect Sam Steel to not draft either Vatanen or Manson.

20 Jun 2017 02:27:32
Thats a hell of a deal for Vegas. Steel is great.

21 Jun 2017 01:13:46
From what I've read they've got their own and 2 or 3 others. Who knows tho, this sounds like a draft where no team is all that concerned about keeping their 1st round pick. I wonder if Vegas packages a couple picks+ and makes an offer to Philly.

21 Jun 2017 01:39:50
Maybe Chicago and Nashvilles aswell, imma say 6 including their own 1st.

18 Jun 2017 03:02:00
Sounding like Vatanen will end up being selected by Vegas in the expansion draft one way or another.

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18 Jun 2017 18:33:55
I haven't been following this expansion draft as much as I probably should be but can someone explain to me why Anaheim couldn't have bought out kevin bieksa and protected vatenen.

19 Jun 2017 12:52:57
Honesly, what if its Theodore to LV instead of a first, especially considering the Ducks don't have a first this year. Read this somehwerr, i think its possible.

19 Jun 2017 18:06:36
I wouldn't wanna give up Theodore, think i'd rather them take Vatanen.

18 Jun 2017 01:09:54
Kinda suprised more trades didn't go down today..was hoping this was going to be like Trade deadline day on Steroids lol..
So now its all over, what does everyone think Vegas is going to look like.. I am pretty sure they will have a better defenseman than the Habs..

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18 Jun 2017 04:19:57
Ehh Weber Is Amazing tho so I disagree.

18 Jun 2017 04:45:36
Vegas will most likely get MAF, Vatanen, Enstrom (maybe),
Better players than I was thinking. Will get one of Calvert, Karlsson or Murray from Columbus and their 1st for taking one of those three too.
So could have MAF on goal, Murray and vatanen as a top pairing D.
MAF is the perfect goalie for them to mentor and groom another young up and comer for a few years. So lucky if that happens.

18 Jun 2017 19:36:19
Weber is good, yes. and Markov, ( pretty sure he will be back), although still decent is long inbthe tooth and Habs are asking a lot out of him. Petry is decent, only one now with any foot speed unless the new Czech has any. Benn is a good bottom pairing. Vegas will probably take Davidson IMO. so that leaves slow, but big hitter Emelin. Nesterov was a disappointment. so , its a pretty weak D core. Weber can't play all 60 mins . so ya. i'm a little worried. Price is going to be a busy guy, and in a contract year, ya mjght wanna give him a little more help than what he is going to have.

18 Jun 2017 00:33:23
Beaulieu to Buffalo for a 3rd (68th) . told you he sucked hahaha.

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17 Jun 2017 23:31:47
Good grief. The Habs blueline is officially super old and super slow.
I mean.

Shea Weber
Alexei Emelin
Jordie Benn
Jeff Petry
Andrei Markov
Jakub Jerabek

With Beau gone, its almost certain that Brandon Davidson is taken in the expansion draft. All I can say is, wow. Five 30+ guys, and a guy from overseas on their backend. I mean, doesn't it kinda seem like these guys will lose a lot of footraces to players like McDavid/ Matthews/ Laine/ Eichel? And its not even just them, its a lot of the faster, smaller forwards that this d-core will lose foot races to.

I honestly would have preferred;
PK Subban
Nathan Beaulieu
Mikhail Sergachev
Jeff Petry
Andrei Markov
Jakub Jerabek

You have three younger, faster guys, as well as the three guys at the bottom (Petry/ Markov/ Jerabek) to play with each of them. Idk. Yes Drouin is good, but boy, after 2-3 years, this blueline is going to look like a complete dumpster fire. Plus, Drouin isn't even a centre. So although he is good, the trade may have just hurt the Habs big-time on defence.

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18 Jun 2017 01:03:01
Ya, i'm a little concerned as well. something ( I hope), must be in the works. cause that is a very slow d core, with the exception of Petry.

18 Jun 2017 04:37:33
It's the middle of June and I'm not worried in the least.

18 Jun 2017 15:53:13
Sounds as though Vegas will be selecting Vatanen from ANA (at this point, at least) . Perhaps MTL moved Beaulieu in part to protect other players but also with hopes of making a deal with Vegas for Vatanen? Long-shot spitball but it sounded like ANA was talking a lot with Vegas in order to protect certain players, and in fact it sounds like they may have a deal in place in order to do just that.

But if that means Vegas is taking Vatanen then perhaps a second deal is in place to move him elsewhere in the same way that it was theorized Vegas may select Fleury and then flip him (I could actually see Vegas opting for Grubauer from WAS as their #1). From what I've read, Vegas is keen on picks/ prospects to develop a winning team over a few years rather than constructing one they merely hope can contend immediately out of unprotected players.

One thing I read suggests Vegas may already have 2 additional 1st round picks to go along with their own pick, and the way McPhee speaks to reports it sounds like he's going for a long-haul build. But who knows, maybe I'm just reading into things too much.

18 Jun 2017 18:36:15
They assumed Vegas was going to take beaulieau and instead of losing him for nothing they got a 3rd. And considering the deal didn't happen until 30 mins before the freeze I assume that was the best offer they got for him.

17 Jun 2017 05:38:33
For over a year I'm hearing top forward(too many to list) + top prospect + 1st rdp for Drouin. I said not even close. I was right TB ends up getting a very promising young dman.

DRAMA usually lowers your true value

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17 Jun 2017 06:39:48
Who was proposing top forward + top prospect + 1st for Drouin?

17 Jun 2017 07:54:24
Neven seen anyone propose that on here, not even me lol. Return of a top 5 prospect in the league + maybe a 2nd rounder is good, given the fact TB couldn't and didn't want to give him the contract he got from MTL.

17 Jun 2017 15:32:26
I might be the only one but I believe Tampa won the trade. I believe that Sergachev is a top 4 defenseman. I also believe he is the missing element on the Tampa D. They needed a puck mover to take advantage of their highly talente forwards. If you look at Drouin he gets most of his points on the PP. Yes Montreal needs scoring but Montreal's system does not really allow for creativity.
I guess we will find out but this was a great trade for people to talk about.

18 Jun 2017 00:29:07
Never heard all that going for Drouin. i think Drais said it best. they did get a really good return. and everyone is saying that Habs have won this trade. however, . wouldn't say that jus yet. this is one that will have to be revisited in like 7 years. like I said before, really happy to have Drouin, however am torn. Sergachev is going to be a Stud Dman that all teams would want. And Tampa already has arguably the best all around Dman in the game .

18 Jun 2017 00:30:50
Guys this is the same guy that proposed JVR for Subban (20% retained) he's just a troll. Best off ignored.

16 Jun 2017 13:08:43
I want the Habs to just keep Galchenyuk... put him at center and let him play.. the presssure is somewhat off of him if he is resigned.. Drouin is the new young star us Habs fans have been waiting for..pressure will he on him now.
Im very happy and excited that we have Drouin. But if we lose Galchenyuk, as well as if Radulov doesn't re sign, then we are in a one step forward 2 steps back kinda situation. Glad i'm not a GM. , cause all this is keeping me up at night, lol....

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16 Jun 2017 22:03:25
Just read Habs might try and move chucky for derek stepan. I think that's a bad move.

17 Jun 2017 00:48:38
According to the rumors a trade with Stepan for Galchenyuk as a base will go down. As a Rangers fan I'm all for it, a younger, cheaper and shoot first player would do us good!

17 Jun 2017 02:19:52
I hope not . Not a big fan of Stepan, at all.

17 Jun 2017 08:50:58
Arizona is hard after Stepan right now.

17 Jun 2017 10:59:27
Yes, just saw that today. Hope they strike a deal with Montreal because Arizona doesn't have the "win now" pieces! -6.5 in cap + the Giradi buy-out would be huge!

17 Jun 2017 16:43:33
Galchenyuk>>>>Stepan hope it doesn't happen and Stephan has a bad contract hope it never happens Montreal would be stupid to say yes.

 


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