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19 Aug 2019 20:04:42
Toronto Trades
Marner
FGauthier
Holl
4th Round Pick 2020

Ottawa Trades
BTkachuk
DeMelo
LBrown (AHL)
1st Round Pick 2020

Ottawa does have the Cap Space to make this Trade and it fixes the Leafs Cap, BTkachuk gives them strength on LWing and Bracco is given a spot alongside Tavares where he will thrive.

Thoughts?

19 Aug 2019 20:50:36
No team will make a trade for marner!! Especially if he wants that terrible 3 year day. Nobodys going to give that up for him, the only value he has is too toronto

19 Aug 2019 22:30:05
Marner is a Top Forward for any team to say nobody wants Marner is a stretch, Ottawa becomes better right away having Marner and they do have the Cap Space, you mean you don't think Sen Fans wouldn't be excited landing Marner? it's the Cap Space issue for the Leafs is why I make any proposal for Marner Sean Moneyhands.

19 Aug 2019 22:40:37
Yeah but teams have a salary cap. That trade has a lot going to leafs with only marner coming back.

20 Aug 2019 00:04:33
Ottawa laughs.

20 Aug 2019 00:48:41
Ottawa will not give up that much for marner. I think what Moneyhands means, is that Marner won't get the return Toronto wants, because everyone (including Ottawa) will be looking at the cap hit he wants. The senators paying marner 10mil+ is not happening soon, as they are not spenders.

If you want to trade Marner, it'll have to be a sign and trade, which means Toronto may as well sign him and keep him.

20 Aug 2019 03:31:49
Very, and I mean very small amount of teams are interested in Marner.
After free agency, 90% of teams already have their roster set and have a plan for their salary cap.
To trade for Marner the team would need to be:
A) A good team (you wouldn’t trade for Marner if you’re rebuilding)
B) Have 12M + in cap space.

20 Aug 2019 03:41:11
Another huge overvaluing of Marner.

20 Aug 2019 09:45:12
Monkeyful that's exactly what i meant. Was just too irritated to explain myself

20 Aug 2019 12:36:20
Marner is only 2nd to McDavid in overall scoring last year and not many teams want Marner?
Anyone who says no Teams want Marner are out to lunch, heard 2 Teams had an offer sheet out there that would have made him the highest paid player in the NHL.
Ottawa is getting a 22yr old Super Star Player not a declining 32yr old.
Marner would fit in perfectly in the Sens rebuilding sooner than later.
I only put this out there "if" the Leafs decided to Trade Marner it would be similar to this.
Leafs unloaded Zaitsev on Ottawa Traded Kadri and Rosen for Kerfoot and Barrie and got Colorado to take on half of Barrie's Contract.
Never say never when it comes to trades in the NHL.

20 Aug 2019 17:11:29
Wait, Marner was second in scoring to McDavid pinball? Are we looking at the same league? I see Kane, Draisaitl, Marchand, Crosby, MacKinnon, Gaudreau, Stamkos and Barkov above Marner in points. And then you have Kucherov who was above all of them including McDavid.

I know your obsession with Marner has made you and Vb crazy, but come on, it’s getting a little wild if your going to start throwing out false statements like that.

20 Aug 2019 17:22:07
Hey pin ball do you actually look at stats or just make sheet up. Also I rather have 4 or 5 centers who scored less than he did than marner

1) kucherov 41G 87A 128P +24
2) Mcdavid 41G 75A 116P +3
3) Pkane 44G 66A 110P +2
4) Drais 50G 55A 105P +2
5) marchand 36G 64A 100P +15
6) Crosby 35G 65A 100P +18
7) Mackinon 41G 58A 99P +20
8) Gaudreau 36G 58A 99P +18
9) stamkos 45G 53A 98P +4
10) Barkov 35G 61A 96P -3

11) Marner 26G 68A 94Pts
12) point 41G 51A 92pts.

04 Aug 2019 12:37:12
#1
To Carolina Hurricanes -
Jesse Puljujarvi
Kris Russell

To Edmonton Oilers -
Jake Bean

#2
To Ottawa Senators -
Matt Benning
Sam Gagner
4th-Round Draft Pick

To Edmonton Oilers -
Mikkel Boedker



Leon Draisaitl - Connor McDavid - James Neal

Mikkel Boedker - Ryan Nugent-Hopkins - Alex Chiasson

Joakim Nygard - Markus Granlund - Josh Archibald

Tomas Jurco - Jujhar Khaira - Zack Kassian


Oscar Klefbom - Adam Larsson

Darnell Nurse - Evan Bouchard

Jake Bean - Ethan Bear

04 Aug 2019 14:28:22
1st trade wouldn't be too bad if Russell wasn't included.

05 Aug 2019 00:02:03
In my opinion Canes trade a defenseman for only forwards. Puljarvji is hit or miss but they got a crazy amount of de that russell doesn't really fit. Just a flyer on pujujarvi so not that bad.

05 Aug 2019 03:49:36
Thanks for the feedback yea carolina is stacked with d prospects

05 Aug 2019 10:03:12
Why would oilers trade puljujärvi for a D prospect? Thet are loaded with D’s. prob even the best D prospect pool in the legue. bouchard, Broberg, Jones, bear, samorukov, Lagesson. Persson? I mean they don't need bean.

06 Aug 2019 05:02:16
Only heard of 3 of those 7 prospects you named. Imo Colorado easily has the best d pool.

02 Aug 2019 08:27:56
#1
To Edmonton Oilers -
Second-Round Draft Pick in 2020

To Pittsburgh Penguins -
Kris Russell ( 2yr / 4.0M )

#2
To Edmonton Oilers -
Jean Gabriel Pageau ( 1yr / 3.1M )

To Ottawa Senators -
Zack Kassian ( 1yr / 1.9M )
Sam Gagner ( 1yr / 3.15M )
Third-Round Draft Pick in 2020


Oilers then sign Michael Stone ( 1.0M @ 1YR ) & Kevin Shattenkirk ( 2.75M @ 1YR )


Leon Draisaitl - Connor McDavid - James Neal

Alex Chiasson - Ryan Nugent-Hopkins - Jesse Puljujarvi

Markus Granlund - Jean Gabriel Pageau - Josh Archibald

Tomas Jurco - Jujhar Khaira - Joakim Nygard


Oscar Klefbom - Adam Larsson

Darnell Nurse - Kevin Shattenkirk

Matt Benning - Michael Stone

02 Aug 2019 13:18:00
Did Ken Holland find his 4 leaf clover? Why do Pittsburgh and Ottawa do this?

And why do free agents take a show me deal in Edmonton instead of contenders?

02 Aug 2019 19:10:22
Oilers trade another linemate of mcdavid, kassian can skate and Will keep playing with mcdavid and drai.

03 Aug 2019 02:25:29
@monkeyful that's exactly what they need. A show me contract, you think they don't have to prove themselves after getting bought out? Loool overvalue people just to be against others on this site no matter what eh?

27 Jul 2019 21:08:45
MOVE ONE:
IF Rangers move NAMESTNIKOV @ 4,000,000 and BUCHNEVICH @ 3,250,000 to Edmonton they would have 3,093,534 in cap space but if Edmonton sent back Ganger, Brodziak and Puljujarvi then the Rangers would only be 1,206,466 over the cap (which is better then the 4,156,466 they are currently at) and Edmonton rids themselves of a Puljujarvi.
As for Edmonton, they currently have 2,433,001 in cap space, they move out some salary and a player not wanting to be here and are then sitting at 6,733,001 of cap space less the 7,250,000 for the 2 Rangers they aquired are over by 516,999 on the cap.
This would require a second deal, enter Ottawa.
MOVE TWO:
Edmonton trades with Ottawa for PAGEAU and DUCLAIR (why those 2, cause one is going to be UFA and one is going to be a RFA next year) adding them would put Edmonton 5,266,999 over the cap but if Edmonton sends back to Ottawa RUSSELL, MANNING and BEAR (we can afford to give a young D back) we are giving back 6,970,000 in salary still leaves us with 1,703,001 in cap space.

27 Jul 2019 22:59:52
Both deals seem don’t really make sense imo.
Buchnevich and Namestnikov for a cap dump, a player that’s a fringe 4th liner and another that doesn’t even have a contract

Pageau is a cap dump.
Duclair is like a third line player. struggles everywhere on the ice in most games.
Ethan Bear has the most value in that trade.
Also, why would Ottawa want Manning and Russell? as surprising as it is, Duclair seems to fit in Ottawa.

Not that bad though.

27 Jul 2019 23:23:47
They litterly signed Buchnevich today.

28 Jul 2019 02:52:21
rangers would laugh in your face.

28 Jul 2019 08:56:25
Rangers get bent over and makes no sense for ottawa

30 Jul 2019 03:56:44
why is pageau a cap dump?

30 Jul 2019 07:15:16
He isn’t really that good in any part of his game.
He’s just mediocre and inconsistent.
And 3.1 a year for him?

30 Jul 2019 10:01:49
you should watch hockey more often rather than looking up stats for everything.

26 Jul 2019 20:45:57
I’m a Calgary fan we need to shed salary and Brodie seems to be the odd man out so why don’t we trade him to some team that the defence is weak my trades for tj brodie. Calgary trades :TJ Brodie To NYR for Vitali kravtov, rw. Or Ott for drake Batherson (rw) . Or Det for Joe Veleno ( c/ rw) . Or NYI for either Simon holmstrom or Oliver wahlstom. Or buff for victor olofsson and Rasmus asplund You could add pick in some trades if you like these are just young player I think you may get for Brodie Flames clear salary and get a young prospect back Please tell me your thoughts and if any of these deals make sense to you for the flames thanks.

26 Jul 2019 21:12:58
Do you know who Vitali Kravstov is/ what the Rangers cap situation is/ why do they need another dman/ are they contending. Rangers never answer a call from Treliving again. As for the rest, you are trading a #4 dman for top prospects that won't work at all. None of the trades work. Terrible value.

26 Jul 2019 23:42:51
Bf32 you're undervaluing brodie

27 Jul 2019 01:25:20
High 30 point dman, who is 2-way. Solid defensively. On an expiring deal @ 29 years old. Top prospects rarely get traded for rentals even if he were to come with an extension he is not worth any of the prospects listed. All of those guys are top 5 prospects to their respected clubs. You would more likely see Brodie traded for two 2nd's.

27 Jul 2019 02:20:55
Kravtsov is the 3rd best prospect rated ahead of Makar and Byram according by the most recent submitted list this guy has potential to be elite no way Rangers Trade him not even close.

27 Jul 2019 02:30:53
Just cause Brodie is 4th best on one of the deepest team defences in the league doesn't mean he's a 4th defenceman. Had 34 points and +29 last year. That's pretty good for a guy for 3.9 mil. Not saying he deserves a top de prospect but he has good value. And shown he can be a top line de.

27 Jul 2019 07:12:41
i'd do that trade from ottawa. it'd be hard to let go of batherson as he's a good prospect but you don't get a d-man like brodie every day.

27 Jul 2019 08:56:43
Shootsmcgee and Pkane88 are the only reasonable ones. Rangers say no but brodie does have decent value

27 Jul 2019 14:04:23
Sean Monyhands you can't seriously think Bodie has close value to Bodie. I’d say Kravtsov has more value then Tavares he has ridicules upside. It’d probably take Hanfin+ to get him.

27 Jul 2019 16:03:02
All I’m saying is a prospect is only prospect until he makes it brodie is a good 2 way defencemen and on these teams he could play on their 1 or 2 pairings easy.

27 Jul 2019 22:40:04
Is vbb drunk again? Bodie close value to bodie? Hanfin? More value than tavares? Ridicules. Either your auto correct on the fritz or you should sleep it off bud.

25 Jul 2019 22:43:28
Toronto- Mitch Marner

Ottawa- Tkachuk, JG Pageau And 1st 2020 ( big question mark but a lot of value make it 1st overall protected )

Toronto- Gets a high risk pick with Ottawa's 1st in 2020 could potentially be a star. Brady Tkachuk brings a different playing style to the leafs and Pageau is a decent replacement for Kadri

Ottawa: gets the best U25 winger in the game. Who can instantly wear the C and lead the team.

25 Jul 2019 23:00:23
Leafs don’t need a replacement for kadri, they already got Kerfoot and locked him at a comparable to kadri contract. Don’t thinknits smart to move marner to a division rival. Same could be said with Ottawa. If marner is moved to don’t think it’ll be to s team in the east especially for a player that isn’t the same caliber (not that tkachuk couldn’t be or won’t be) but tkachuk may or may not be all he’s was hyped up to be. If the leafs trade marner they either should take 4 firsts or a player that is currently close to his caliber.

25 Jul 2019 23:22:25
Kerfoot is a very poor Center and prefers playing wing. I’d rather try Kappanen as the 3C then Kerfoot. Kerfoot was the LW with Mackinnon and Rantanen for the most part. Pageau is an excellent shutdown guy something like Danault but maybe not as good offensively.

26 Jul 2019 00:51:14
Vb where did you get that Kerfoot is “a very poor centre”?
I know damn well you east coast kid didn’t watch any Colorado games. He might prefer to play wing, but that doesn’t mean he is “a very poor centre”.

Now on the trade. Personally, I don’t see why’s Ottawa would need Marner. Like I said before, on the Senators he’d probably finish with like 70 points.
JG Pageau has very little value imo because of his salary. He’s a bottom 6 player that gets laid 3.1M.

26 Jul 2019 00:55:46
Marner is not worth that, actually Tkachuck is worth more then Marner. If you look where Marner was at his age Tkachuck is looking like he can become, by a huge difference, better then Marner.

26 Jul 2019 04:12:25
VB where did you see Kerfoot played wing with Mac and Rantanen most the time? I was pretty sure Landeskog played with them like 95% of the time or something and Kerfoot Centered a line with like Ghetto and Wilson. I could be wrong I’m just curious because so much was made about that one Colorado line and their dependence on it.

26 Jul 2019 06:33:37
What Detroit is saying is obv not true, Marner is def the better player compared to Tkachuk. With that being said, there is no way OTT trades another sure fire top 3 pick.

26 Jul 2019 08:26:53
Go on HFboards and look at Colorado fans opinions of Kerfoot.

26 Jul 2019 08:55:02
Vb
Oh, so what you’re saying is you’re stealing people opinions without developing your own?

26 Jul 2019 13:05:24
Well I mean being in Atlantic time you can’t watch a lot of western conference games and the ones I watch are usually Canadian teams.

26 Jul 2019 15:28:51
Pageau is not an adequate replacement for Kadri. It would be better if he was just left altogether and simply made it Marner for Tkachuk and 1st.

Marner is by far the superior player at this moment. That may or may not change in the future, but it most definitely holds true for now.

26 Jul 2019 18:48:45
Then you aren’t qualified to say Kerfoot sucks at centre.

26 Jul 2019 19:06:08
Well Kerfoot was minus 13 as a centre last year played majority of the time on the wing also landy moved up and down the lineup after further research he was moved to spread out scoring and was their best defensive forward. I just watched 2 hours of video on Kerfoot and he dosent impress me much his defensive stats are deceiving and from what I saw while he does have solid playmaking potential he’s definitely nothing special scored 3 really nice goals.

26 Jul 2019 20:05:17
@vbb Kerfoot is a fine center. I seen him play a few times, more his first season than last year, he was not a stand out either way good or bad. He played a good game. He will be a good third line center. While he doesn’t exactly drive the play, he also doesn’t make many mistakes, and can play both ends of the ice.

25 Jul 2019 17:27:34
Ottawa Trades
2nd Round Pick 2020

Vegas Trades
Tuch

For Vegas it's either Tuch or Gusev going but feel Vegas is more high on Gusev, being in Cap Hell Vegas won't get much more than that maybe Ottawa adds a B Prospect.

Thoughts ?

25 Jul 2019 19:03:55
Didn't Toronto just get Vegas out of cap hell? I'm sure they would sooner trade gusev then tuch anyway. But if they could move a guy like reeves they could probably keep both.

25 Jul 2019 20:04:02
No way Tuch goes for so little.

26 Jul 2019 15:32:01
Tuch is signed long term to a team friendly contract. Exactly the type player Vegas needs on the team. He isn’t going anywhere, and especially not for just a 2nd.

24 Jul 2019 16:53:04
Oilers: Russel , 2nd round pick

Ottawa: 6/7 round pick

Oilers then sign gardiner for 1 year deal

To play as number 1 LD on oilers 1 year would prob rocket his value , he would prob put career high Numbers playing with mcdavid on PP , always been in the shadow of rielly in Toronto

24 Jul 2019 19:57:40
So many things wrong with this.

24 Jul 2019 20:22:19
He won’t sign a 1 year deal.

25 Jul 2019 01:51:00
Why doesn’t Ottawa sign Gardiner instead?

25 Jul 2019 06:48:03
Cuz Melnyk is cheap and wouldn't want to pay anything above 5 million per aav.

25 Jul 2019 11:59:43
Cuz he wouldn't even be the best LD on Ottawa,

He maybe get what he ask for from Montreal, no other would pay him high on longterm

One year oilers would be great for asking price next year.

24 Jul 2019 11:08:11
vancouver: Olli Juolevi, Loui Erikson, 2nd, conditional 3rd (if they make playoffs)
ottawa: pageau, boedker.

24 Jul 2019 13:36:30
Replace Joulevi with Hughes and take out picks.

24 Jul 2019 14:54:13
No from Vancouver. While Juolevi would be more than enough to dump Eriksson himself, the Canucks aren’t in a cap crunch and thus have no need to overpay to move a contract.

Also leave it to Vb to show his delusion again, Hughes to dump Eriksson? Get real lmao, there’s something wrong in your head, go get checked into a mental asylum.

24 Jul 2019 20:29:20
Okay we’ll look at it logically. I can send a link of the definition of logically if you’d like because I’d be surprised if you’re familiar with the word.

Patrick Marleau had a 1st attached to him to dump him for 1 season. Both players are buyout level and have the same annual salary ( around ) so if 1 1st round pick dumps 6million in salary for 1 year it’d take 3x as much to dump Erickson so if you’d like you can exchange Hughes with 3 1sts. Also not to mention Ottawa is giving back two decent players. I didn’t realize I was genius and knew more then everyone I’m actually very proud of my superior intelligence compared to the vast majority.

25 Jul 2019 01:06:23
Vertius is right, marleau was a need to be dumped, Vancouver is not in the same spot. So not going to give up assets to dump a contract. Leafs had to so they were at the mercy of teams knowing they had to.

25 Jul 2019 02:02:04
Is hughes really that much better than Juolevi though? From what I’ve seen, they are still pretty even rated.

25 Jul 2019 04:03:56
Joelevi wasa bust pick from day 1. Something beneficial to Ottawa needs to be offered up. Yes like Hughes or 1st rd'r.

24 Jul 2019 05:57:22
Ottawa is going to be playing Pageau on the 4th line. Wow i feel he'd be very useful on a team that actually needs him.


To OTT
Jack Roslovic
3rd-Round Draft Pick

To WPG
Jean Gabriel Pageau

24 Jul 2019 13:28:06
Garbage deal for Winnipeg. No thanks.

24 Jul 2019 14:35:04
Roslovic has more upside than Pageau so no from the Jets.

25 Jul 2019 02:04:29
Roslovic hasn’t turned out as good as Winnipeg hoped. But he’s still better than Pageau. If I had to bet which of them will still be in the league in ten years, I put my money on Roslovic.

23 Jul 2019 10:40:50
#1
To CGY - Tyson Jost
To COL - Ty Parsons & Michael Frolik

(Flames clear cap and acquire a young guy who may need a change of scenery as he goes close to home in Alberta, Avalanche acquire a top 6 RW on a 1yr deal and a solid goalie prospect who was a memorial cup champion a few years back)

#2

To OTT - Michael Stone, Mark Jankowski & 4th-Round Draft Pick
To CGY - Chris Tierney

(Flames clear 2 contracts and get a center replacement, Sens get a 4th Round Draft Pick as compensation for taking back a 3M x 1YR contract so not that bad and a big 32pt Center who was also 2nd place in SHG)


What do you guys think?


Gaudreau - Monahan - Lindholm

Tkachuk - Backlund - Jost

Lucic - Tierney - Bennett

Mangiapane - Ryan - Czarnik


Giordano - Brodie

Hanifin - Hamonic

Valimaki - Andersson

23 Jul 2019 13:53:54
Other teams will offer more for Jost IMO. He was just drafted 10th overall a couple years ago. While he hasn't panned out, it's not like he's been terrible.

23 Jul 2019 18:10:54
Jost deal is fair value wise but I can see Colorado holding on to him. His potential is insane imo even if he has been disappointing. Colorado can afford to wait with Jost as their forward depth is deep.

No from Ottawa. Easy.
Stone sucks now and is overpaid. Basically a cap dump.
Tierney > Jankowski. Both in terms of skill and potential.
Tierney fits in Ottawa. Great two way centre.

Also, even for Ottawa taking a Stone’s contract is worth more than a late fourth.

25 Jul 2019 04:24:04
This trade doesn't seem very wise at all. can't see sakic doing this when they could keep jost and instead of frolik. Take that money and add a few Mill and just take Tkachuk on an RFA offer instead. Point, Marner, Laine are also up for grabs. Colorado doesn't need to take bad contracts. just buy an RFA who is in his prime instead.

23 Jul 2019 05:18:53
Vancouver: Erikson + 2nd 2020 + conditional 3rd (transferred if vancouver makes 2020 playoffs)
OTT: Boedker (may have spelled that wrong)

23 Jul 2019 09:57:16
Gonna cost more than that to dump Loui.

22 Jul 2019 16:19:29
Vancouver: Erikson + 1st (lottery protected 2020, moves to 2021 if vancouver does not make playoffs in 19-20 season) + 3rd
OTT: Boedker (may have spelled that wrong)

22 Jul 2019 22:57:34
Vancouver traded that pick to Tampa.

23 Jul 2019 01:55:07
Didn’t Vancouver just trade a 1st for JT Miller?

23 Jul 2019 05:16:33
oh yeah i forgot about the pick going to tampa. oops. i'll try a new trade then.

22 Jul 2019 15:17:35
Oilers: Puljujärvi , 3rd round pick , conditional 1st round pick (if Buchnevich hits 55p)

Ranger: Buchnevich , conditional 1st round pick (if jesse hits 45p)



Oilers: Gagner , 2nd round pick

Ottawa: future picks considerations

22 Jul 2019 15:51:33
Eh, I think the Ottawa deal is fair but at the same time not really necessary for the Oilers.
Gagner’s contract expires next season, and he’s still a fine 3rd like player. Would rather have him on the third line for a year than give up a second.

On the PulJ deal the conditionals really make it more complicated than it needs to be. Don’t see the Rangers handing out conditional firsts.
PulJ + 2nd for Buch?

22 Jul 2019 15:59:04
Buch for Nuge is fair.

22 Jul 2019 16:51:13
Lol. No it’s not.

22 Jul 2019 18:11:17
Ya I agree Gagner is a decent playmaker and should really help round out the bottom 6 and help with the lack of secondary scoring the oilers had last year. I would much rather keep him at 3m than give him away for basically nothing.

22 Jul 2019 18:39:53
Buch for nuge? Haha

Are you insane? Buch best season is 43 point

Nuge put up 69p last year playing with rattie and lucic

Its like saying nuge for marner is fair.

22 Jul 2019 23:00:10
Lol he put that up by playing with McDavid on the PP and top line for awhile. Buchnevich is younger and has shown 30 goal potential especially if put with McDavid.

23 Jul 2019 18:52:28
For a ”while” max ten games

In my books he atleast top 10 2C in nhl.

20 Jul 2019 12:25:42
[ Moves to create cap space. ]

#1
To CGY - Sixth Round Draft Pick
To OTT - Michael Stone & Fourth Round Draft Pick

Michael Stone's Salary ( 3.5M @ 1YR )

#2
To CGY - Third Round Draft Pick
To COL - Michael Frolik

Michael Frolik's Salary ( 4.3M @ 1YR )


[ Moves to improve team. ]

#1
To CGY - Andreas Athanasiou
To DET - Sam Bennett, Second Round Draft Pick & Oliver Kylington

#2
To CGY - Kristian Vesalainen & Sami Niku
To WPG - Mikael Backlund

#3
To CGY - Tyler Toffoli
To LAK - T.J Brodie



CGY Projected Lines 2019-20 :


Johnny Gaudreau - Sean Monahan - Elias Lindholm

Matthew Tkachuk - Andreas Athanasiou - Tyler Toffoli

Milan Lucic - Mark Jankowski - Kristian Vesalainen

Andrew Mangiapane - Derek Ryan - Austin Czarnik


Mark Giordano - Rasmus Andersson

Noah Hanifin - Travis Hamonic

Juuso Valimaki - Sami Niku

20 Jul 2019 12:43:42
hell no from winnipeg.

20 Jul 2019 12:48:01
Don’t think Detroit or Peg ( cap) takes that.

20 Jul 2019 15:33:51
The Jets wouldn't do this trade.

20 Jul 2019 19:05:42
Terrible for Winnipeg. No thanks.

19 Jul 2019 23:05:42
MTL: Alzner

Ott: Ryan(1million retain)

18 Jul 2019 13:22:09
Buffalo Trades
SReinhart
Ristolainen
Olofsson (AHL)
1st Round Pick 2020 or 2021

Toronto Trades
Marner
Borgman (AHL)
3rd Round Pick 2020 (Ottawa's Pick)

The 2020 or 2021 Pick will be decided by the Sabres before the 2020 Draft.
Ottawa's Pick was obtained in the Zaitsev, CBrown Deal.

I have posted other combo trades with Marner going to Buffalo.
It's to me what each Team is looking for Player wise and Cap wise.
Buffalo would love to have Marner to play with Eichel as well as unload Ristolainen.
Toronto is up against the Cap with the Marner situation but still have a few holes, this Trade fixes the holes except backup Goaltender and keeps them under the Cap.
It's a Trade that makes sense for both Teams.
Sabres will still need a 2nd Line Centre with Sheary + going somewhere to get that.


Thoughts ?

18 Jul 2019 19:57:40
Huge no from leafs a Ristolainen buy out would hurt the leafs a lot can’t be paying him 5 million for the 3rd pairing maybe if he’s versatile he could be the 3rd line RW like Burns did but doubt it.

Rather take him out of the trade probably holds decent value to other teams tho.

18 Jul 2019 20:36:46
VB, Risto becomes instantly the Leafs best D-men ahead of Morgan Reilly. It's not even clost.

18 Jul 2019 21:39:17
Reilly is LD and better than Risto.

18 Jul 2019 21:50:54
Ohh yeah then he instantly becomes the best player on the raptors, the new pitcher on the blue Jays, Best player on the Toronto Rock and the Quarter back for the Toronto argonauts. He probably takes the title from Drake as the best rapper in Toronto too.

18 Jul 2019 22:41:02
I really wish you were the GM of Montreal Mantha. All of Ristos d partners are better when they don't play with him. If a guy makes all his partners worse then there is a common denominator.

19 Jul 2019 09:22:37
@vbbbvvbb

Ristolainen is a 24yr old 6"4 215lbs RHanded Shooting Defenceman that averages 46points a year and you would buy him out?
He has been on a crap Team that has thrown him to the wolves at a young age, believe me Teams would want this guy including the Leafs.
Put with someone like Rielly I bet he is much better including Babcock coaching him.
He hits like a truck to and will fight if he has to.
Everything lacking on the Leaf Defense.

19 Jul 2019 09:23:10
Mantua are you really saying risto is better then Reilly that's just crazy talk.

19 Jul 2019 15:14:23
I’m in on Ristolainen. Leafs can’t afford him right now but I think I’d like his style. Defense always take longer to develop. He is still young and could round out his game still.

19 Jul 2019 15:21:13
Risto is very good at 2 things playing offensive hockey and playing physical. He’s terrible defensively no denying that I actually think he’d be a better winger like Brett Burns. He could be really good on the PK also as a forward with a strong development camp.

16 Jul 2019 17:23:49
Buffalo Trades
SReinhart
Sheary
Ristolainen
1st Round Pick 2020

Toronto Trades
Marner
Hyman
Borgman (AHL)
3rd Round Pick 2020 (Ottawa's Pick)

Still think there is a match here for many reasons, I have revised my original Proposal some and value wise it's very fair, Leafs still need another Defenceman and this Proposal keeps Tavares going with NHL Wingers, improves the Defense and keeps them under the Cap.
Sabres are getting Marner plus a good Contract with Hyman.

Thoughts ?

16 Jul 2019 18:34:23
Take out Sheary and Hyman. Toronto will not move Hyman under any circumstances. For a team that lacks drive and motivation throughout the year, Hyman is the only player that plays 150% every game even if he doesn't put up big numbers. You need players like Hyman to win the cup.

16 Jul 2019 19:47:09
Replace Risto with a good player like Middelstad.

17 Jul 2019 00:03:20
@Stammer2Leafs2016

I would rather keep Hyman as well but I looked at what Buffalo would want, Sheary is on an expiring contract where Hyman is signed for 3 more seasons including the 19/ 20.


@vbbbvvbb

Buffalo won't be trading any Centres they need another Centre, Sabres are deep at RHanded Shooting Defencemen and Ristolainen is a lot better than most people think, at 24yrs old and Babcock as his coach he would be better in Toronto.

17 Jul 2019 04:45:24
Marner would instantly transform Buffalo into contenders. Having him setting up Eichel or Skinner. Those guys would get 50 goals.

It’s a lot of moving parts. Having Reinhart included is key. We need a quality player in return. This would be the perfect chance for Buffalo to dump Risto as well.

Not sure Leafs want to make trade with a division rival though. Especiallly when it’s a player like Marner, who could completely turn Buffalo around.

17 Jul 2019 13:49:17
What would the Buyout for Risto look like for the leafs they really don’t need an offensive deffensman for the 3rd pairing.

17 Jul 2019 18:38:57
For 3rd pairing vb? You would put Ceci ahead of Risto?

17 Jul 2019 19:43:04
Well Rielly, Barrie And Risto certainly couldn’t play with each other so yeah.

18 Jul 2019 02:43:46
Somebody actually has to play defense I guess eh?

You don’t think Dermott and Risto would make a good pair? Barrie, Ceci, Muzzin all UFA. Risto is the keeper if this trade happens.

15 Jul 2019 19:04:58
Vancouver Canucks:

- Nick Paul {39P in 43GP AHL}

- Gabriel Gagne

Ottawa Senators:

- Brandon Sutter {3.5M for 2yrs}

- Olli Juolevi

==

Vancouver sheds a little bit of cap to help them sign Brock Boeser and Goldobin.

Ottawa lacks depth and veteran leadership on their centre depth and team in general. Sutter is still a good PK and 2-way centre. He brings lots of experience that should be good for the young locker room.

Vancouver adds size to their prospect pool as Nick Paul is 6'4 230lbs and Gagne is 6'5 215lbs.

Vancouver and Ottawa exchange disappointing prospects. Gagne was a 36h overall pick in 2015 and was one of the best PF in the draft. Juolevi's potential is much higher and he's younger so for a rebuilding team taking Sutter's contract is worth it.

Both teams win. Ottawa adds to their defence prospect pool and if Juolevi turns out to be even close to what he was projected, this is a steal for them. Canucks shed salary while also adding size.

15 Jul 2019 20:55:13
No from Vancouver. As I’ve explained twice already, the Canucks are not in a cap crunch. We have 5 mil in cap space, when we trim our roster at the start of the year that will go to 7 mil, and when we put Roussel on LTIR we will have around 10-11. The Canucks are NOT in a cap crunch, we will NOT be overpaying to move out bad contracts, stop with these trash trades and do some research before posting.

15 Jul 2019 21:42:01
Why do people think LTIR solves all there cap problems? I’m thinking Canucks don’t make this trade but Sutter is a contract I’m sure they’d pay to dump.

15 Jul 2019 22:26:05
Gagne went to Toronto and went unqualified, he's an UFA rn. I don't think Vancouver would do this, they’d probably rather try and trade Schaller, Beagle, etc, lower cap hits so less moving cost.

15 Jul 2019 05:08:29
EDM: Puuljajarvi, Russel, 2020 3rd
OTT: Smith, 2021 2nd

VAN: Eriksson, Goldobin, 2020 3rd
ottawa: boroweicki, 2020 4th.

15 Jul 2019 06:29:54
Smith, 2nd = Russell, 3rd
Puljujarvi is a way overpayment.

15 Jul 2019 08:07:47
Ott can keep Borowiecki, otherwise it’s good.

17 Jul 2019 19:44:37
that's a hard no from ottawa on that vancouver trade.

 
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