02 Dec 2020 08:49:55
Jets:Laine,Pionk

Dallas:Heiskanen

1.) 02 Dec 2020
02 Dec 2020 13:55:47
Heiskanen is good, but not that good and there is also almost no chance a trade like that is made in division.

If Laine is moved, it will very likely be out east.

2.) 02 Dec 2020
02 Dec 2020 14:02:50
No from Dalas. He is untouchable.

3.) 02 Dec 2020
02 Dec 2020 14:28:38
This trade including Pionk would mean the Jets plug one hole in getting Heishanen but open up 2 others replacing Laine and Pionk.

4.) 02 Dec 2020
02 Dec 2020 14:41:18
Heiskanen is, in my opinion, the best U23 dman in hockey rn (in my opinion, anyone could make any argument for Makar, Hughes or Dahlin) . Just based on that and how rare it is to find such a good dman, no from Dallas.

5.) 02 Dec 2020
02 Dec 2020 16:19:56
I only made this trade to see if Jets fans are biased enough to say no to it. I guess that answers my question.

6.) 02 Dec 2020
02 Dec 2020 18:09:48
Magicmarc the Jets don't want or need to trade Laine at this time so any trolltrades you propose will be answered with a no so move on to trading Marner or Nylander.

7.) 02 Dec 2020
02 Dec 2020 20:34:49
I honestly think Heiskanen for Laine is more than fair. Adding Pionk is an overkill but I I can see Dallas doing this but at the same time I can’t. Laine would help a lot considering Dallas was one of the lowest scoring teams in the league. Some may argue that Heiskanen is more valuable tho

8.) 02 Dec 2020
02 Dec 2020 20:50:43
I agree Casual. It could be argued that Heiskanen is worth more than Laine, but no way Heiskanen is worth Pionk more than Laine. Especially when you consider Heiskanen's main value is from his offense and Pionk outscored him last season.

You are correct though, I can't see Dallas move him, even if they want to, in division.

Somehow though to Marc, Jets fans are biased because they're turning down paying at least 1.5 times what a player is worth for an LD that isn't a priority need for the Jets.

9.) 02 Dec 2020
02 Dec 2020 20:56:09
“Heiskenen is not that good” lol you 2 are unreal hahaha

The guy had a better points per game average (26pts in 27 games) in the playoffs, when games get tighter and harder, as a 21 yr old Dman than the untouchable, point producing, 2way physical beast Laine has ever put up, as a forward in any season or playoff.

I get you saying they won’t trade Laine, you can JVR that opinion and you can believe that until the day he’s traded, and then backpedal. But you’re just making yourselves look so biased and uneducated saying things like Heskanens not that good lol.

10.) 03 Dec 2020
02 Dec 2020 21:52:15
The above post by Sampson is exactly what we were talking about a couple of days ago Casual.

Sampson makes up something that no Jet fan has said "Heiskanen is not that good" and whines that Jet fans are biased.

That's why I avoid being too specific as much as possible. There's always a troll that comes along and twists your words to lower a civil discussion to their level.

11.) 03 Dec 2020
02 Dec 2020 22:22:40
I agree memarcus

12.) 03 Dec 2020
03 Dec 2020 01:06:58
(id trade marner for heiskanen in a heartbeat btw, lol)

13.) 03 Dec 2020
03 Dec 2020 02:08:10
Heiskanens value comes from him two way game and the fact he’s 21 who just had a point per game in the playoffs. No way Dallas does a straight across trade but I can also see why the Jets might pass when Pionk is added. Decent chance they take it anyway though.

14.) 03 Dec 2020
03 Dec 2020 04:31:20
Just saw The Hockey News released its “Top 50 players for 2020-21”. I know these lists are meant to be debated, but they’re based on what people who watch hockey for a living see and think. Miro Heiskenen is #28. Laine snuck on the list at #46. Figure it out. You would be lucky to upgrade to Miro for Pionk.

15.) 03 Dec 2020
03 Dec 2020 05:43:43
NotACasual did you not watch the playoffs? Hieskanen looked like a top 5 player in the game. If the star’s somehow won the cup he’d be undoubtedly the conn smyth winner. As a 20 year old dman who is a 2way presence unlike Hughes and Makar led his team to the Stanley cup final. Even Bobby Orrs first couple
Of playoffs weren’t as impressive as Hieskanen people need to realize he a top 20 player in the game already.

16.) 03 Dec 2020
03 Dec 2020 08:12:55
Quoting memarcus in this very thread.

"Heiskanen is good, but not that good"

"Sampson makes up something that no Jet fan has said "Heiskanen is not that good" and whines that Jet fans are biased. "

17.) 03 Dec 2020
03 Dec 2020 08:15:34
@TopShelf " (id trade marner for heiskanen in a heartbeat btw, lol) "

I'll one up that Gaudreau and either Hanifin or Kylington. :)

18.) 03 Dec 2020
03 Dec 2020 20:02:21
Moxnix not sure if that’s a troll but Guadreau and Hanfin aren’t worth Hieskanen. It’s really not close either. Mathews and Hieskanen is a fair swap.

19.) 04 Dec 2020
03 Dec 2020 23:23:02
Yes moxnix. I took his exact quote and then he says he never said it lol. He forgets that people can scroll up 5-6 replies and read it I guess.

20.) 04 Dec 2020
04 Dec 2020 18:03:49
@Nylander

I agree Heiskanen is worth more than that but it wasn't a troll. It was a tongue in cheek response to TopShelf saying he'd trade Marner for Heiskanen.

In any case Dallas won't be trading Heiskanen period anytime soon. Not unless some other team makes a ridiculously good offer on the order of the Lindros trade (or LOL what the 2 jets think Laine is worth) .