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26 Jan 2018 16:25:11
EDM- Karlsson

OTT- Nuge, Yamamoto, Klefbom, 1st?

Would this be realistic.

Dr. Drai

1.) 26 Jan 2018 16:58:26
Values there but Edmonton wouldn’t do it.


2.) 26 Jan 2018 17:42:47
I'd say to much from Edmonton depending on where that pick is could be number one.


3.) 26 Jan 2018 23:19:55
I wouldn't do this If I were Edmonton. they need more of a Doughty, Peitrangelo type, good all around 2 way guy. Not a Karlsson type. the offense runs through him, and that's where he needs to go. to a team that he can be that. Oilers have some guy up front the offense goes through. and he's pretty good at it.


4.) 26 Jan 2018 23:22:41
Sorry, Completely Unrealistic return. Karlson's play is already on the downward trend.

Karlsson's term left is not long enough to get so much in return. If he was signed longer term at reasonable cap hit, it might be worth consideration.

I'd say Yammoto and a protected 1st would be the best you could hope for to attain Karlson's RENTAL SERVICES before he bolts for 10 - 15M a year in free agency. Karlson and Doughty have both put the leagues GM's on notice that a massive payday is a coming.

Best to keep away from BOTH of these 2 players with anything more than a rental rate in return.


5.) 26 Jan 2018 23:38:19
It's reasonable on both ends. Can't see why Edmonton would say no to this and the value is good for ottawa too. it would have to be a deadline day deal though.

Ottawa gets a solid 2nd center a decent top 4 defenceman who would do well with chabot a prospect with a little bit of hype and with 2 high draft picks this year they could definitely make up for the loss of karlsson and up their chances of winning the draft lottery.

While Edmonton guarenteed an upgrade on defence and gets an unreal 1 2 combo with EK AND mcdavid and with Larsen on karlsson's line it's like an instant massive upgrade to methot who has been karlsson's best defense partner so far.

I actually like this for both sides.


6.) 04 Feb 2018 21:18:00
I would absolutely do this deal, however the oilers would still need a shutdown left defensemen to play with Karlsson. But the just gave up their major assets in this deal to get Karlsson. (definitely not playing Nurse with him, maybe Russell could step up, but if he plays like he did this year so far. well you know where I am going with this.

Oilers
Pros- powerplay would be up at the top 5 in the league. Teams would be scared to take penalties against the Oilers, playing them not as aggressive equals more wins for Edmonton. Next season they would be at 100 plus points.
Solidifying the top two right hand D slots

Cons- have traded away a lot of assists to get one player, including the best valued defensemen on the team. Klefbom at $4,167,000 till 22-23 season is a great deal. Also giving up RNH which at some point will have to go, he is the odd man out even though he as been the Oils best all around player this year.

Ott
Pros- getting a ton of young assets to build around.
Klefbom- established top four D at a good cap hit with an big upside
RNH - solid 2 way forward in the NHL which I actually think he is better on the defensive side of the puck.
Yamamoto - could be a very interesting NHL pro or could fade away, but could be the next best thing at 5'7
And a high 1st round

Cons- loose one of only two real rover style defensemen in the league. It would be a huge loss to them and their fans.

Final thought.
Ott doesn't actually have the cap space to pull this trade off, and would leave them close to the cap limited and needing to resign Stone and Ceci.

So a actually don't see this trade happening from the Ottawa side.


 

 

28 Jun 2017 16:02:35
Rumor has it that McDavids getting 8 yrs × 13 million.

Oilers need to get rid of the excess cap space if they want to keep Leon.
But if it doesn't work, how far off is this deal?

Draisaitl for Parayko

Dr. Drai

1.) 28 Jun 2017 16:11:16
I think you would have to add to get Draisaitl, but because of the cap situation they wouldn't be able to take too much on. Parayko on EDM would be nice though.


2.) 28 Jun 2017 16:16:12
Well if anyone is worth that, it would be him. but i'd still figure a way to keep Drais. ya that will be probably 20 to 21 million for 2 guys. but I think would be worth it.


3.) 28 Jun 2017 16:17:36
They won't trade Draisaitl.


4.) 28 Jun 2017 17:04:06
Its obviously not prefered to trade Draisaitl, but Chiarelli woukd want to sign him close to 8, whereas he won't want to make much less than McDavid. That could be why a deal like this is possible.


5.) 28 Jun 2017 17:24:50
Still at 8 for Drais, and 13.5 for McDavid, isn't much off what Kane and Toews get together. and the Oilers pair are younger and more dynamic. time will tell if they can have same team success as Hawks, but they are well on there way. Chiarelli is smart, and has figured away to build this team. with not one. but 2 supreme building blocks in McDavid and Draisaitl., he can make it work.


6.) 28 Jun 2017 17:49:58
If McD signs for 13.5 i don't think Drais will go as low as 8 a season.


7.) 28 Jun 2017 18:05:08
Maybe he could've waited and signed someone cheaper than Russel. Lol.


8.) 28 Jun 2017 18:05:11
If McDavid gets $13.25M a year it's the same percentage of the cap as Crosby got when he signed his.
It's NOT as bad as it first seems.
Nuge will be gone during or after this season.
Their D is locked up for good money. Goalie as well.

Nuge $6M gone after his season. Same with Poo $4M. And Faynes $3.5M.
Mate if they have to have to, can trade Sekera and his $5.5M away. But once Nuge is gone the only big contracts the Oilers will have is McDavid, Drai and Lucic. They are fine!
Pens had Crosby eating %17 of their cap and still managed to have Malkin, Letang, MAF and Kessel and win multiple cups.


9.) 29 Jun 2017 01:48:13
Oilers will be fine. Once some of those other big contracts are gone and they can add some depth they will be even more dangerous.


10.) 29 Jun 2017 02:13:52
I wouldn't be shocked if draisatl asks for over 10 mill. Mcdavid is obviously worth every penny but its a tough number to start with. When Crosby took his 17% (8.7 mill) malkin said "thanks for taking that discount sid, I want 9.5 mill" and he got it. Not saying draisatl will do it, but it's an eerily similar situation. That's the equivilant of draisatl saying I want $15 mill. I wouldn't be so sure they have no money problems yet. 15 mill is insane, but not a chance would I take 5.5 mill less than mcdavid. That's equally insane.


11.) 18 Jul 2017 00:36:10
Edmonton are not trading anyone one of these guys. Nuge or drains all.


 

 

05 Jun 2017 19:33:42
What would Kovalchuks value be? A first and a middle prospect?

I honestly don't know but feel free to rip me on this one

Oilers: Slepyshev + 22nd overall pick

Devils: Kovalchuk

Imo It seems pretty fair but who knows.

Dr. Drai

1.) 05 Jun 2017 19:57:48
Good base, but do the oilers really want Kovie?


2.) 05 Jun 2017 22:46:49
Why is Slepyshev in so many offers? He's a 23 year old who can't crack the team full time yet.


3.) 05 Jun 2017 23:43:43
Because he's about to become a full time guy this upcoming season hopefully and he doesn't need to be protected.


4.) 05 Jun 2017 23:43:57
And no from oil on this trade.


5.) 05 Jun 2017 23:58:22
Borje showing how clueless he is again. Lol
He got chances on the top line in the playoffs man. Lol.


 

 

25 May 2017 09:07:17
Basing this off a blog - goo.gl/yWxR3

DAL: Eberle & 2017 1st round pick (EDM)
EDM: 2017 1st round pick (DAL, 3rd overall)

Dallas needs a right winger to replace the likes of Hemsky, Sharp, and Hudler. Eberle had a down year and still put up 51 points.

Oilers could then grab someone like Gabe Vilardi, or trade down and stockpile the prospect drawer to prepare for the cap inflexibility of the future.

Dr. Drai

1.) 25 May 2017 12:09:33
I personally think that Jim Nill will hold true to his statement about trading for a more proven defensemen with that pick. But if I we're to in fact trade for the pick anyways, something would be telling me they're interested in not only Texas born LD Caleb Jones. So maybe a deal like:
EDM
RWEberle (500k retained)
LDCaleb Jones
3rd Rd pick
DAL
3rd Overall pick
I like the Gabriel Vilardi thought though even though I don't see Edmonton fetching picks, dominating right handed, big centers, who have some grit and even more skill like him, are hard to come by.


2.) 25 May 2017 12:30:12
I'm not sure if the difference between a 1st round pick and a 3rd round pick is Caleb Jones. Granted, I don't know as much about him but that's a pretty big gap.


3.) 25 May 2017 13:37:56
I believe Nill said he want an established defenseman.


4.) 25 May 2017 15:20:25
Ummm ya. NO!
2017 picks are useless and not even wanted this year. You're not getting Eberle for a pick. Especially a 2017 pick.

Per GM PC.
"Our team exceeded expectations this year and I'm not looking to make a major off season move" I want to let the current team grow together"

So please go peddle your weak a$$'d draft picks to Vancouver or Detroit, Vegas or some other non-playoff team that needs them.

Edm is fine as they are :)


5.) 25 May 2017 15:31:55
Wow Eberle will not net a top 3 pick the other pieces are meh maybe Eberle and Nurse or switch Eberle for a 2nd.


6.) 25 May 2017 16:10:35
It's probably closer than you think, not knowing much about Caleb Jones, but I also think Edmonton may have added a 2nd if they had one alongside Jones without any Eberle salary retention. Also don't forget that 500k off of Eberle holds a bit of value as well, with the 3rd and Jones combined.


7.) 25 May 2017 18:13:05
so oilers end up in playoffs and have a top 5 pick. priceless xD.


8.) 25 May 2017 18:24:08
Stop saying that this years draft is useless. No draft is useless. Weak, yes, but useless, no. Every draft will have its surprises.


9.) 25 May 2017 18:30:28
Nylander,
He will not be traded for a mere draft pick. Sorry. ( Specially this year) . Unless it's a sure fire McDavid / Matthews / Eichel / Laine type pick he's traded for, Eberle won't be traded for a handful of magic beans that MIGHT make the NHL, or might be another Daigle.

Top 6 proven he can play in the NHL player. for a Maybe. ya not happening. Next trade.

FlyingV
This is a complete troll trade. 0 chance this will happen from Edmonton's end.

BTW.
Edmonton does not own a second this year.
Edmonton will not retain salary on any trade,


LOL. Eberle for a magic bean. in the weakest draft year in a decade. Please. you guys are killing me!


I consider this ridiculous rumor quashed and closed!


10.) 25 May 2017 20:40:26
@MJC


Totally agree with you. The draft is weak at the top, but hell, there are still players who are going to become NHLers in the draft. The top end is weak, but its still good. FT4A, come on bud, get ya head outta your a$$, realize that there is value in having a top 3 pick.


11.) 25 May 2017 20:42:10
5 years down the road there will be 5 star players in the NHL from this class. Not superstars, but a cpl #2 defensman or 25-30 goal scorers. It happens in the weakest drafts. I would like my team to have the best chance at hitting on one of those. You can not value the pick as high as other years, but it's not just garbage either. A few really good players and a lot of serviceable NHLers will be drafted in June.


12.) 25 May 2017 21:12:21
You do realize that Alexandre Daigle only had 60 less points than Eberle right? Lol and he's called one of the biggest busts of all time. He scored those points making no money too. Not comparable, just a funny observation.


 

 

11 Feb 2017 03:39:04
Edm - Jiri Hudler
Dal- 3rd round pick

OR

Edm - PA Parenterau
NJD- 4th round pick

Edm- Davidson, Eberle
Ott- Stone, Ceci

This last one I'm not sure who adds more because there are definitely arguments for and against this deal from either team. Not sure of the nature of all involved players' contracts.

Thoughts?

Dr. Drai

1.) 11 Feb 2017 06:00:26
The first two definite no from Edmonton.
And no from Ottawa.


2.) 11 Feb 2017 07:19:49
Easy no from OTT.


3.) 11 Feb 2017 07:32:33
The last proposal is so bad for the sens both ottawa players are better than their counterparts and the oiler players are older. Come on bro your really not sure witch team should add more.


4.) 11 Feb 2017 12:57:00
Pa Parenteau could get more. Fiddler just got a 4th, and he sucks. PA could get a 2nd at the deadline.


5.) 11 Feb 2017 15:51:56
Why would the first 2 be a no, what's wrong with draft picks going for rental player?


6.) 11 Feb 2017 16:46:16
Because my opinion is those are two old rubbish players and Edmonton doesn't need to waste assets for guys like that. Especially bcuz they could have got them in free agency last year.


 

 

 

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03 Jul 2017 18:53:14
I don't know how Oilers fans are not clamoring to sign jagr. Sure he is old but he would definitely help the right wing. Better yet he could be a great mentor to Puljujarvi as they have a similar stature. It is hopeful thinking and wishing but if the oilers get Jagr I would be extremely happy

Dr. Drai

1.) 03 Jul 2017 20:04:33
He's slow and the oilers are built around speed.


2.) 04 Jul 2017 07:25:50
Apparently no one is clamouring over jagr these days.


 

 

26 May 2017 03:30:07
Dont get why Eberle catches so much flack, especially after considering landeskogs year. 33 points compared to 51. I do get that Landeskog is a moree physical player and will go to the dirty areas, and his leadership. But there shouldn't be so much disparity between the two imo. I'd like to hear opinions though, for all I know I could be batshit crazy, but right now I think there isn't much of a gap between the two.

Dr. Drai

1.) 26 May 2017 07:06:52
His career average is 27G 35A. Lol.
The reason I dislike him now is that We need that money for Drai and Mcdavids contracts, And he was given all the opportunity in the world to succeed on mcdavids wing, and didn't. As soon as we won the draft lottery for McDavid he was working on his shot all summer, Didn't work out. Lazy, no grit, not defensively responsible.

Hopefully just needs a change of scenery. I could really see him doing very well with Benn or Seguin. Or just disappearing in New Jersey with his buddy Hall. Lol

And I'm too lazy to write out all the leagues $5-7M wingers but he is right snack dab in the middle for comparisons. So he's really not that bad. 51 points on a down year is not bad at all. Not sure why he gets all the hate here either. Just Oilers haters. Haha lots of them hear.


2.) 27 May 2017 00:10:40
Lazy.
Weak.
Maybe can work out well in the eastern-conference.


 

 

01 Mar 2017 17:04:18
How did Detroit not get atleast a second for Vanek with all the suitors available? Especially looking at WHAT Vancouver got for Burrows and Hansen

Dr. Drai

1.) 01 Mar 2017 17:17:57
I was very suprised by that as well. I guess these guys aren't use to being sellers.


2.) 01 Mar 2017 17:25:22
For one, I think everyone on this board would agree that OTT went wonky re: that Burrows trade. And then they extended him. Dorian needs to cut down on the weed brownies.

Hansen isn't as bad, tho I'm surprised Goldobin was the prospect moved. Maybe he's faltered? I haven't kept up with him tho I know he was looked highly upon before. That said, Meier is on the Sharks this season and Goldobin isn't and Meier was drafted later. So who knows.

Vanek is a very up and down player. Even tho a lot of teams wanted him for his potential upside, I'm sure a lot of teams didn't want to move out too much given his potential downside. We've seen how wonky he can be so no surprise to me that he didn't get a mint. That said, I think he could be a great pickup for FLA if they play him 3rd line wing.


3.) 01 Mar 2017 18:22:13
@chirp

I think Goldobin and the SJ Barracuda are doing really well. He was just starting to heat up. Idk, i always thought he would be a nice addition to the sharks in the future.2.


4.) 01 Mar 2017 18:36:26
Well that makes me wonder why even moreso then.
I guess Nucks get another good prospect regardless. Putting together a pretty good pool even just this season outside of recent draft.


 

 

03 Feb 2017 01:47:40
What would it take for Wayne Simmonds to get to Edmonton?

Eberle and a pick?
Pouliot and a 1st this year?

Seems as though it is a player that fits Chiarelli's mould and I do recall a couple years ago when it was very possible that we would be trading for him.

Dr. Drai

1.) 03 Feb 2017 02:59:49
A lot more


2.) 03 Feb 2017 06:41:58
Pouliot and a 1st is hysterical. Unless the oilers lose their next 30 games, the value is way off. I'll allow k99 to educate you on the value of Eberle.


3.) 03 Feb 2017 13:33:48
Puljujarvi +


4.) 04 Feb 2017 11:54:15
Davidson+Pouliot for Simmonds.


 

 

19 Jan 2017 05:44:08
Oilers - 4th round pick
Jets - Perrault

Oilers -?
Panthers - Jokinen

Maroon McDavid Draisaitl
Pouliot Nuge Eberle
Lucic Perrault Jokinen
Khaira/ Hendricks Letestu Kassian

Not exactly sure what the Oilers would give up for Jokinen but i'm assuming its not a whole lot. This would help solidify a third line and shouldn't cost them too much. I don't think they go for Shattenkirk because of the expansion draft and the likelihood that they lose Davidson already. Forfeting a first round pick, likely part of the deal, is not something I'm sure Chiarelli would want to part with, although it is shaping up to be a later pick.

Dr. Drai

1.) 19 Jan 2017 08:01:42
Not sure if Perrault would be the right guy for Edmonton, either way gunna take a lot more then a 4th. Someone like Jokinen would maybe make sense but I think he's got too much salary and term unless I'm wrong. Also he's been struggling this season and he's a vital part of Floridas offence, he won't be cheap.


2.) 19 Jan 2017 11:19:25
@BeeJay Jokinen has 1 year after this season at 4 mil, and has honestly slid down their depth chart to the 3rd line after being one of their better scorers last year. I think it would cowt a 2nd and a mid prospect or like 2 seconds. I don't see them wanting to trade him tho since they're in the playoff hunt.


3.) 19 Jan 2017 15:42:20
I'd rather Caggiula.


 

 

 

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27 Jul 2017 21:08:43
If they just trade RNH for Bozak oh my gaawd.

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20 Jul 2017 19:28:02
I was going to complain but man that 3rd round pick really balanced things out lmao.

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28 Jun 2017 17:04:06
Its obviously not prefered to trade Draisaitl, but Chiarelli woukd want to sign him close to 8, whereas he won't want to make much less than McDavid. That could be why a deal like this is possible.

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24 Jun 2017 23:42:43
Well no need for Alzner you got Hamonic.

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10 Jun 2017 03:28:18
Gets #1 center but doesn't pay anythings? isn't that like 3 first rounders or atleast a decent amt of picks. And chuck plus emelin shouldn't give you dylan strome.

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28 Jun 2017 17:05:33
I guess they traded for eberle for his experience in rebuilds then lmao.

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20 Jun 2017 17:50:48
I want Langescov on my team now!

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