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12 Sep 2022 04:42:24
TO trades Robertson, Muzzin, Niemela, and Kerfoot for Crouse and Chykrun with Arizona keeping 3 million in cap. Leafs may have to add a second.

TO trades Sandin to the Rangers for Lundvquist.

Gjc1955

1.) 12 Sep 2022 15:50:13
How can this be a trade that would improve the Coyotes? All the players the Leafs are trading are either over the hill, injury prone, overpaid, under achieving ones that have very little value for 2 young, very good players that are signed long term at reasonable contracts.


2.) 12 Sep 2022 23:50:48
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Reading what you posted you described one player in the proposal from The Leafs, that would be Muzzin and even saying that He is still a good Defenceman as long as he stays healthy.
The other 3 players don't fit over the hill, injury prone, over paid and under achieving at all.
Now if Sandin is exchanged in this proposal I actually could see Arizona being interested, but the Muzzin contract is still a problem unless he truly is done and can be put on LTIR imo.


3.) 13 Sep 2022 16:17:57
If these players mentioned are that great why do they appear in so many trade post by Leaf fans? Just keep them.


4.) 13 Sep 2022 20:04:12
I am not sure why at all Arizona would consider this trade? a team that is in a complete re build and other then neimela really nothing there that helps a rebuilding team that 4 years away! not to mention chychrun reported asking price alone was atleast 2 first or a first and a top prospect this is not even close and arizona is eating 3 million. not even close.


5.) 14 Sep 2022 19:38:38
This is laughable. The other 31 teams do not exist to give up their talent to the leafs and take on their pieces. This is a garbage proposal unless you’re a true-blue leaf believer. Embarrassing proposal.


6.) 20 Sep 2022 17:54:02
With Lundqvist traded today for a 1st, it sure goes to show how far off the offer of the sweetheart Sandin was.


 

 

01 Jul 2022 06:41:56
Mrazek, Duszak, and Holl to Minny for Dumba.

Minny trades a guy they can't resign for cheaper replacement, a decent prospect, and a backup tender. This has positive cap ramifications for both teams.

Gjc1955

1.) 02 Jul 2022 01:05:42
If Minny can't afford Dumba they sure won't want to be taking on an albatross of a goalie contract.

You pay teams with plenty of cap to drop cap dumps on them. You get teams in a cap crunch to pay you to take on your cap dumps.


2.) 02 Jul 2022 02:22:46
Make that

You *don't get teams in cap crunch to pay you to take on your cap dumps.


 

 

01 Jul 2022 03:03:23
Leafs trade rights to Campbell and Mickey, , Kerfoot and Abruzzee for Billington and a fourth.

Blues get to sign Husso, sign or trade Campbell, get a good 2/3 liner, a decent prospect and a chance to sign Mickey. Leafs get a decent proven goaltender.

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01 Jul 2022 02:56:42
Toronto trades Robertson, Hollowell, and Semyon Der-arg. for Crouse and a fourth round pick..

Coyotes get one excellent prospect, a good prospect and b level prospect. Leafs get size and a needed pick.

Gjc1955

1.) 01 Jul 2022 04:55:41
Another trade where the leafs get the best player and the other player gets garbage.


2.) 01 Jul 2022 05:03:36
Is Semyo Der-Arg really an excellent prospect?


3.) 01 Jul 2022 16:20:59
No he is the b-level prospect. Robertson is the excellent prospect.


 

 

24 Feb 2022 19:25:27
Canucks: JT Miller (50% retained), Schenn
For
Leafs: Kerfoot, Holl, 1st

Or

Coyotes: Chychrun (50% held), Kessell (50% held), Crouse
For
Leafs: 1st, Kerfoot, Dusak, Holl, Abruzze, Mikayluk
Andrew
Kraken: 50% of Kessell, SDA

Or

Sabres: Miller, Tuch (50% held)
For
Leafs: Holl, Robertson, Abruzze

Gjc1955

1.) 24 Feb 2022 20:42:34
Value is about right for Miller but the Canucks want a lot more than he's worth so they'll hang on to him.


2.) 24 Feb 2022 20:42:56
Those are all easy no’s IMO.


3.) 24 Feb 2022 22:06:42
I missed the 50% retention on Miller. Vancouver says no to that.

Without retention the offer is about right for Miller alone but it'll cost extra to get Schenn too.


4.) 25 Feb 2022 01:51:10
Crazy to think everyone is going to retain salary just to help the leafs.


5.) 25 Feb 2022 04:48:43
I love reading all toronto trade ideas they all include the opposite team retaining salary. Lol 😆 🤣 😂.


6.) 25 Feb 2022 07:45:09
@BumbleBee That's not all. They include Toronto getting good players and dumping all players nobody wants.


7.) 25 Feb 2022 14:29:17
I dunno. I’ve seen a lot of 3rd/ 4th line C Sean Monahan making almost $6.5M in trades that still value him as the guy he was 3 years ago. I think it’s pretty similar in all fan bases and on here.


8.) 25 Feb 2022 15:14:24
Nobody is valuing Monahan anything like the player he used to be. He's been a throw in to make cap work in some case as a cap dump with a sweetener added to help convince the other team to take him.


9.) 25 Feb 2022 22:57:59
Ummmm someone had him and a pick/ prospect for Scheifele last week lol

That’s definitely valuing him like the player he used to be. MS is a legit #1C making less money than Monahan. In no universe is Monahan the big piece going back in a Scheifele deal

It’s not an attack, it’s an observation that every fan base overvalues their players on forums like this. That’s what happens when you’re putting together hypothetical trades to try to improve your team. Rarely does anyone give MORE than it would take to get the deal done. They always try to make a deal while giving up the least assets to keep their best pieces while adding a good one.


10.) 26 Feb 2022 03:49:06
There was one post proposing Monahan, Zary, a first and a second but that's more than you're saying.

I wouldn't want Scheifele at all but he is worth more than that. Not a whole lot more and not nearly as much more as Winnipeg fans like to think but still more.


11.) 26 Feb 2022 15:52:03
Okay lol

You just did again what you’re accusing others of doing. You’re telling me that Jets fans overvalue Scheifele, as a response to me pointing out that Flames fans overvalued Monahan, in response to you pointing out that Leaf fans overvalue their players haha

You’re making my exact point. Every fan base does it. You just choose to be blind to it when it’s fans of your favourite team, like most others do with their respective teams.

If you stand back and try to see it from an objective viewpoint, it’s not hard to see. Call out all fans for doing it, or none. Consistency is key.


12.) 27 Feb 2022 18:48:19
Not at all.

I value Monahan as being worth about a second round pick right now but even then his cap hit makes him very difficult to move.

I called you out for claiming a deal was proposed last week offering Monahan and a pick/ prospect for Scheifele when in fact the proposal was far more than that. It was for Monahan, a good prospect, a first round pick and a second round pick. I even agreed that offer was on the low side but it's still more than double what you claimed.


 

 

 

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01 Jul 2022 16:20:59
No he is the b-level prospect. Robertson is the excellent prospect.

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