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07 Jul 2022 21:32:15
Chicago:
C Kirby Dach (59 pts 152 games)
Detroit:
C/LW Michael Rasmussen (57 pts 182 games)
2022 2nd round pick (washingtons)
1.) 07 Jul 2022 22:23:30
Seems appropriate. Not sure if CHI wants Picks/ Prospects/ Players even Younger than Dach (21), otherwise I would try to ship Filip Zadina instead of Ras if I were DET.
2.) 07 Jul 2022 23:54:17
Oh well, they got a better package from Montreal lol.
3.) 08 Jul 2022 00:25:29
Too late, Dach is a Canadien now.
4.) 08 Jul 2022 00:30:29
Good Trade Value. Dach got Traded for a 1st (13th OA) + 3rd (66th OA)
5.) 08 Jul 2022 02:18:20
I didn't think Dach would get that much but Montreal must really like him and they really did need another center.
6.) 08 Jul 2022 21:50:59
I wouldn't say CHI got a better proposal than yours necessarily. Who knows what that 1st & 3rd will tunr in too OR how Rasmussen & the 2nd in your proposal will turn out in the end either.
08 May 2022 16:00:53
Blockbuster trade between Edmonton and Anaheim
Edmonton:
Zach Kassian (3.2m x 2 years)
Tyson Barrie (4.5m x 2 years)
Oscar Klefbom (4.167m x 1 year LTIR)
Dylan Holloway (Former 2020 1st round pick (14th overall) on ELC)
2023 1st round pick
Anaheim:
John Gibson (6.4m x 5 years)
This trade would need to involve multiple players from Edmonton to clear the cap space and also needs to include 1sts or prospects to incentivize Anaheim with the package that they're getting.
Edmonton needs to solidify its crease and get an established starting goalie, Gibson's salary and term make him an ideal candidate for a trade target.
I'm confident the value is there but I think it depends how people feel about Anaheim shopping their best asset to a team in their division. Edmonton might still need to add in order to make it work.
What are your thoughts??
1.) 08 May 2022 16:14:04
Also keeping in mind that Nurse's extension kicks in next season so Edmonton will need to shed a lot of salary to fit everyone else in including Puljujarvi's and Yamamoto's extensions.
I don't know if Edmonton would need to sweeten the offer with another pick or player/ prospect but I really like the idea of these two teams making a trade, Anaheim is rebuilding and Gibson's prime years can't go to waste carrying the Ducks any further.
Edmonton is trying to contend and a reliable elite goalie has been one of several obstacles holding them back these past few seasons. Other than them both being Pacific division rivals I think the trade makes sense for both teams.
2.) 08 May 2022 19:24:43
I’ve come the realization that John Gibson isn’t the player he once was. He’s had 3 average seasons in a row and isn’t putting up good enough numbers to be worth a ton in trade value like you’ve proposed.
Anthony Stolarz is playing much better and comes at 1/ 7th the price; I’d pursue him instead.
3.) 09 May 2022 01:26:12
Anaheim would accept that but I think there will be a better option for edmonton.
If Jake Oettinger keeps playing the way he has been see Dallas trading Binnington and the oilers should like him more than Gibson. Dallas wouldn't take all those cap dumps back though. One sure, maybe even two if Holloway and the first are both coming back with them but not all three.
4.) 09 May 2022 21:38:36
Binnington is from St Louis I believe not Dallas. But Husso is doing well there and Bimmer could use another shot.
5.) 10 May 2022 00:25:06
@Hockey_Dad
You are correct. I got mixed up who took Binnington's job and which team he plays for.
04 Dec 2020 16:55:24
Tampa Bay Lightning:
Tyler Johnson ($5m for 4 more years)
Alex Killorn ($4.45m for 3 more years)
Erik Cernak (RFA)
1st round pick 2021
Detroit Red Wings:
Future Considerations
Given that the Lightning still need to resign Cirelli, this trade isn't about what Tampa is getting back from Detroit, moreso about what Tampa is getting back in cap space.
Tampa offloads $9.45m of cap from their roster, bringing them under the cap this season and freeing cap space for long term as well. Tampa can open roster spots for prospects like Cal Foote, Alexander Volkov, and Alex Barre-Boulet to get a chance to crack their roster. The team is still a cup contender without Johnson and Killorn and I believe they will still have at least another 2 or 3 year window to try and win another cup.
Detroit can afford to take on both Johnson and Killorn's salaries this season without going over the cap. Yzerman can explore a separate trade to free up the space to sign Cernak to an extension (He could even try to flip someone like Killorn). And the low 1st round pick comes their way for taking the full salaries without retention. Detroit is essentially doing Tampa a favor by bringing them under the cap in taking both players off their books. The Red Wings will shed even more salary off their roster next season so the long term of Johnson and Killorn's contracts won't impair the Wings from any future signings.
I think this suits both teams for their short term and long term needs. Johnson and Killorn are still on the young side of their 30s and would bring playoff experience and knowledge to mentor the younger players that Detroit will be gradually introducing to the roster.
Thoughts?
1.) 04 Dec 2020 17:33:15
At this point it’s not that unreasonable. Tampa will need to take a hit. Clear win for Detroit.
02 Apr 2020 14:44:20
Since there's no hockey I thought it would be fun to discuss what the Maple Leafs could/would do with the cap space they'll have this summer. If the cap increases, the Leafs will likely have over $20 million in available cap space.
The team has 3 RFA's to resign: Denis Malgin, Frederik Gauthier and Travis Dermott
They also have team needs that will have to be addressed this summer, right handed defense is what has been and still is lacking for the team, as well as depth players with physicality and grit. Barrie likely won't re-sign and Ceci doesn't look like he's in the teams future plans.
So.. what do you think it will cost to resign their RFAs and what do you think they'll do with the remaining cap space they'll have?
My suggestion:
Gauthier signs for 1 year at $875k
Malgin signs for 1 year at $875k
Dermott signs for 3 years $11.25m ($3.75m aav)
Re-sign Clifford at $1.6 million for 1 year
I hope they'll swing for Pietrangelo in free agency and try to take a stab at getting him for 5 years $45m ($9m aav).
If they've proven anything, they know how to structure a contract with signing bonuses being 99% of the salary and a base salary of the league minimum.
If Pietrangelo somehow resigns with St. Louis, who else could you see the team going after and for how much?
1.) 02 Apr 2020 15:26:37
Honestly I think you’re overpaying all 3 RFA’s, Gauthier and Malgin should sign for league minimum and Dermott should not be signed for over 2 mill aav on a one or two year bridge deal.
They can’t afford Pietrangelo unless they trade all of Kerfoot, Kapanen, and Johnsson or the cap somehow still goes up after this year.
2.) 03 Apr 2020 01:20:47
According to capfriendly Toronto has 77 million tied up in 16 players plus Kessel. If cap goes to 84 they only have 7 million to spend. If it stays flat they only have 4.
Where are you getting this 20 mill cap space number from?
3.) 03 Apr 2020 07:37:56
What about Ilya Mikeiev sorry about the spelling but the LW who plays with Nylander and Tavares since Hyman was bumped down to the 3rd he’s a RFA and should command 3 + mil. Also the leafs aren’t getting that much cap Horton and Clarckson currently don’t count towards the cap.
4.) 03 Apr 2020 11:25:59
Sorry about that, $20 million coming off the cap in UFA's but Toronto's cap hit for 2020-21 is 76,908,533 so far. That leaves them with 4,591,467 available cap space. If the cap goes up to $84m they'll have 7,091,467 of available cap space.
That will be gone once the RFA's are resigned.
5.) 04 Apr 2020 12:54:32
Up to date rumors have the leafs going after alex P hard . This is why there were no big moves at the deadline. There is interest on both sides. This came fro the same source the had Patrick Marleau going to pens and leafs getting Clifford as predicted so don't be shocked if alex lands a leaf.
01 Apr 2020 15:13:00
Game plan for Detroit Red Wings
Coaching: Fire Jeff Blashill and hire Gerard Gallant
NHL draft: Trade the rights to Ehn, Erne and Perlini at the draft for draft picks
Free agency: Lose Ericsson, Gagner, Howard, Franzen, Daley, Goloubef and Biega in free agency.
Go after Markstrom as a free agent goalie, 4 years $22 million deal.
Extensions: Sign Fabbri to a 2 year $5 million deal
Sign Bertuzzi to a 6 year $30 million deal
Sign Mantha to an 8 year $60 million deal
Sign Bowey to a 2 year $4 million deal
HC: Gerard Gallant
Bertuzzi - Larkin (C) - Mantha
Fabbri - Filppula - Zadina
Helm - Veleno - Hirose
Svechnikov - Nielsen (A) - Abdelkader
*Rasmussen*
Cholowski - Hronek
Nemeth - Bowey
DeKeyser (A) - Seider
*MacIssac*
Markstrom
Bernier
1.) 01 Apr 2020 16:06:06
Biega already got an extension.
2.) 01 Apr 2020 16:29:28
No kidding eh March 8th I must have been busy buying toilet paper and I didn't hear about it lol. Thanks!
3.) 01 Apr 2020 19:40:46
Hahahaha Markstrom ain’t sighing for 5.5 a year, dream on, and if it was that cheap it would be with Vancouver.
4.) 02 Apr 2020 04:43:54
I completely agree on the Fire Blashill. Would have liked Gallant but chances are since he wasn’t signed up yet, we may not get him.
Truthfully was hoping for Tampa to mess up again to so we could snag Jon Cooper, I can dream.
Personally would love to give Perlini another shot with the new coach, he can be good if utilized well. But if we trade him like the others you mentioned, I’m ok with it.
I’m good with all of the re-signings you mentioned, hopefully the players are too.
As for Goalie, I like Markstrom but not sure he would join us. I could see us making a play but getting a Goalie this off-season would be tough for a later financial move.
I say we see if we can swing a deal for Georgiev, he would get a chance to steal the crease and would be a good tandem with Bernier.
Overall, good post but could use a few tweaks.
5.) 02 Apr 2020 07:50:19
I'll happily give you Cooper, you won't have much fun with him, that I can tell you.
6.) 03 Apr 2020 07:42:01
Georgiev would be a smart add if cheap for the wings. 2nd + a prospect? If anymore i wouldn’t pay the price. Doubt their will be a big market for him.
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30 Mar 2020 20:50:40
I've been off this site ever since Hockey got put on hold but I'm impressed that "St.LouisFan" has made such a big name for himself as a troll poster.
I know actual Blues fans have better ideas than what I've read on here but this one was too good not to bring up:
March 6th he stated that Pietrangelo is untouchable when he was denying that Thomas was untouchable. 5 days later he posted a trade throwing Pietro in WITH Thomas for Gudas and Vrana...
This is the difference between having a bias towards your favorite team vs. not knowing what the F you're talking about.
1.) 03 Apr 2020 01:59:51
No. It's the difference in dealing with a true troll like redwing1 and posting something to get him going versus what you actually think. If you had been on site to see the whole line of discussion you would have known that.
Where has he been lately anyway? Must be hiding under a bridge.
2.) 03 Apr 2020 02:01:12
I mean, coming from a guy that thinks Toronto has 20 million in cap space next year, your comments don't mean much. Who is the real troll here?
3.) 03 Apr 2020 22:56:59
You and Redwing are probably the same guy.
4.) 04 Apr 2020 07:35:53
I don’t think so sosa he’s obviously bias but not delusional. Petro for Norris was outlandish aside from that he has solid insight.
17 Jul 2022 17:37:36
Toronto needs cap flexibility too. They dont have the room to add that much extra cap as they currently have just over $700k in cap space.
10 Jul 2022 18:53:47
"With the DeBrincat trade at the draft the transaction value has been set". just because Chicago was willing to throw away a 24 year old multiple 40 goal scorer for magic beans from Ottawa, does not mean Vancouver would be willing to do the same for Toronto.
If you think that Debrincat trade was fair value, its obvious why your disagrees outnumber the agrees.
10 Jul 2022 16:00:22
Where's Justin Holl? You never make a trade post without him and hes clearly Toronto's most valuable trade chip.
I bet if you threw Holl in there Vancouver would even be willing to retain 50% of Miller's salary just to help out the Leafs a bit more.
07 Jul 2022 23:54:17
Oh well, they got a better package from Montreal lol.
06 Jul 2022 20:11:29
You forgot to add Justin Holl, the only other player you ever try to include in trades. He's the most valuable trade chip they have.
06 Dec 2019 17:37:14
Guaranteed 3 peat for stanley cup champions
Lucic (C) - Spezza - Reeves
Abdelkader - Bjugstad - Brown (A)
M. Foligno - Nielsen - Kassian
Pirri - Sutter - Ryan
Marincin - Gudbranson (A)
Ericsson - Gudas
Greene - Zaitsev
Howard.
06 Dec 2019 15:03:37
Ovechkin - MacKinnon - P. Kane
Marchand - O'Reilly - Marner
Mantha - Kadri - Kucherov
Tkachuk - Bergeron - Wilson
Hedman - Karlsson
Reilly - Doughty
OEL - Pietrangelo
Vasilevsky
Binnington.