14 Aug 2019 05:00:06
Toronto- marner, jake muzzin 2020 6th, 2021 4th

Philly- provorov, justin braun, tyler pitlick, 2021 1st.

14 Aug 2019 06:27:16
Why do the Flyers do this?
Provorov is their building block d-man and stud defenceman.
Flyers are also stacked on forward depth.
They don't need Marner whatsoever.

Also, value wise, Toronto loses this.
Marner>/ =Provorov
Muzzin >> Braun
4th = Pitlick
1st > 6th


Just bad all around man.

14 Aug 2019 14:01:12
Yet Marner is “overrated”.

14 Aug 2019 16:16:03
Marner is defiantly overated by leaf fans. Could you imagine the haul if he was a center and put up 70 80 pts.

14 Aug 2019 21:10:25
Love all the overated talk. redwing you are famously one of the worst. Marner is a top 5-10 winger in the game with room to grow.

14 Aug 2019 22:30:50
He is not when I get home i will post. I think he is like 14th.

15 Aug 2019 01:20:47
How many wingers got 94 points last year, plays penalty kill rather well and plays the full length of the ice. Far better than the player you have so much love for Tarasenko.

15 Aug 2019 01:29:16
NHL. com has him rated at #5. And I know it's more for fantasy purposes but dobber has him rated the 8th best skater in the league.

15 Aug 2019 03:33:13
That’s Tarasenko they have at 14 colt. Marner is 5. All this bickering over these young players worth is getting comical. I forgot how petty people get in the off season. Most of the top players in the game could move up or down that list in a few months. Tarasenko won the cup at least, that’s more than most of these players can say. I didn’t mean to pump your tires Colt, we know you can do that on your own.

15 Aug 2019 11:42:47
Hey at least tarasenko gets goals 35-40 when marner hits 35 let me know. Fyi marner has a lot of secondary assists. Also Toronto media is even saying he is overated.

15 Aug 2019 13:47:41
Holy crap tankie. I was praising Tarasenko and you’re still going to bash Marner? I understand that every leaf player is overrated and they don’t become stars until they leave the blue and white. I bet Bozak is the best 3c in the game now right? I’m sure we’ll be hearing how good Borgman is before long.

15 Aug 2019 14:08:48
Toronto media started calling him overrated once he demanded a big contract lmao.

15 Aug 2019 14:38:08
Bozak is a pretty sick 3C I’ll give the blues that. But jeez let me know when Taresanko ever cracks 75 points Nylander has similar production to Taresanko lol.

15 Aug 2019 16:09:57
That's your argument Colt. really. they are saying he's overrated based on the reported contract demand. If you would rather a one dimensional player over a player who is good at any point in any situation then so be it. There is no argument to Tarasenko being better. Give me a guy who gets more points, plays PK and is very responsible at every point in a game any day.

15 Aug 2019 16:15:29
I never said he was better. I like marner a lot. I prefer to have tarasenko. He has a deadly shot. Wouldn't be surprised if he hits 40+ this year. Also vb he has hit 75 points. Lol

73, 74, 75 point seasons and those where with lehtera as his center. He had a big injury 17-18 towards end and into 18-19 still got 65+ points 30+ goals. This. Year I think he will hit 40+ goals 80+ points with schenn and Schwartz.

Also if I'm correct doesn't tarasenko have most goals in playoffs over last 5-10 years. I will look that up not sure. Think I saw it posted by NBC stats.

15 Aug 2019 16:56:51
Vbbvvbv dude seriously nylander has similar tha ts the dumbest thing i have heard in a while nylander has never had more than 22 goals or 61 points let's do tarasenko last 5 years

18/ 19
33g 35a 68p 76gp
17/ 18
33g 33a 66p 80gp
16/ 17
39g 36a 75p 82gp
15/ 16
40g 34a 74p 80gp
14/ 15
37g 36a 73p 77gp


In 70 playoff games he has the following

33g 16a 49pts 70gp

When nylander hits that let me know.

15 Aug 2019 16:59:12
So a kid who gets 68 assists some secondary and 26 goals is not one sided.

Fyi tarasenko plays the 200 ft game scores just slightly more than he assists. I would trade him and his 7.5 for marner and his 11m.

15 Aug 2019 17:27:07
That is so obviously Colt.
Only Colt can say Tarasenko is better than Marner and truly believe he is right and everybody else is wrong.
The dude didn't even crack 70 points in the last two seasons while being on a Stanley Cup winning roster.
Also, I don't understand what you expect Schenn to do for Tarasenko. Schenn is a 55-60 point centre. That's what he has been for his entire career. One season doesn't change that.

15 Aug 2019 17:35:50
**Not to mention he thinks Joel Edmundson is a top pairing defenceman.
The dude never even hit 70 games played in one season and his highest point total is 17 points lol.
I mean, even Jim Vandermeer played 70 games once and hit 20 points in a season, something Edmundson still hasn't accomplished.

15 Aug 2019 19:07:33
I meant to say wouldn't trade him.

Joel Edmonds DoD play top pairing D with petro. Last year he did half of season. I said he is top 4.

Also rating a Dman on points alone is dumb. Parayko got 33 and was one of the best dmen in the playoffs. But I guess he isn't top pairing either.

15 Aug 2019 19:18:33
''They get top pairing Physical LHD can play top pairing minutes. ''
33 is fine for somebody of Parayko's stature. Also, 33 is 1 short of being DOUBLE than the points Edmundson scored.
I'm sure most of us can agree Parayko is a top pairing defenceman.

15 Aug 2019 20:20:21
You said it. He is still a kid. Tarasenko is what he is. A heck of a winger who can get upwards of 40 goals. Marner is a kid who got 94 points. Players don't get goals without someone feeding them the puck most of the time.

15 Aug 2019 20:48:10
Has he played the #1lhd for blues for the majority of the Last 3 years with petro. yes so does that mean he got top pairing minutes. yes.

15 Aug 2019 20:50:06
I've been enjoying reading everything here, been a blast. Was trying to stay out of it, but I couldn't for 2 things.

Bozak is a great 3rd line centre, the leafs wanted him to be a #1 or#2. He was still good, but I believe as 3c he's a perfect fit.

Also, just because edmundson played 1st pair with petro, that doesn't mean very much. With Petro on D and o'Reilly playing C, you can probably have a banana peel as your other D and still it'll look good defensively.

15 Aug 2019 20:50:41
We all agree Parayko is a top pairing D-man. But why are we arguing about Blues players. Colt is a redwings fan now.
Larkin is a cool contract to think about!

15 Aug 2019 21:56:11
I love Bozak. My comment was directed towards a guy that bashed players when they were on the leafs, but would love them on the blues. Borgman will be the next top pair defensemen we hear about. Don’t kid yourself about Lehtera tank, some us were around when you told us he was one of the best set up guys in the league.

16 Aug 2019 00:06:46
I don't bash leaf players specifically just try to bring leaf fans back to reality. To a leafs fan every player prospect is the goat.

16 Aug 2019 04:11:41
Leafs17 I can remember that comment too lol.

16 Aug 2019 04:51:21
LOL @17 i rmbr him saying Lehtera/ Tarasenko would be some next deadly set up and sniper duo, oh boy.

16 Aug 2019 05:51:34
I can’t believe you’re still fighting me on this colt. Which name do you prefer to go by? You were ran off this site by people sick of you running your mouth about every player in the blues organization.

16 Aug 2019 13:02:37
Do you remember the "Shattenkirk Vacation" we got! It was glorious.

17 Aug 2019 17:47:33
Provo is a good dman, but I think the leafs would get better value in the long run by just letting him sign his RFA offer and banking those 4 first rounders.