Use our rumours form to send us nhl trade rumors.

30 Sep 2019 23:40:36
To Dallas
Robert Thomas

To St.Louis
Ty Dellandrea
Jason Robertson

Both dallas players put up huge ohl numbers which ironically were both better than morgan frost numbers. Since morgan Frost is apparently a future 1C must mean dellandrea is a future 1C and robertson is a future 1RW..this clearly means they have more value than thomas who is also apparently a future 1C.

2 future #1 players is better than 1


Agree4 Disagree12

01 Oct 2019 00:06:56
I’m liking where this is going actually. This RedWing wants to pick fights on your home turf, so you carry it over to his. Make sure a lot of sense to me actually.

Thomas has 9 goals last year and Frost is buried in the minors behind three payers of proven high talent. Neither one will make the nhl in any capacity if they don’t step up significantly. I wouldn’t be surprised if either they both get traded or they both fade away.

01 Oct 2019 00:27:19
Ok blues say no. Robert thomas was amazing in the playoffs as a rookie soon to be future 1c for blues. So nope.

01 Oct 2019 09:47:05
Hmmm, since when is 1g,5a, 6 points, -2 in 21 games in playoffs amazing? Sounds like a future 4th line center. But know you would say that's absolutely garbage if he played for any other team and call him a ahl player. Way to many delusional Homer's here
Feel embarrassed for guys like redwing and Marcus.

01 Oct 2019 10:14:29
Not a chance from the Blues POV Thomas is on the blues top PP.

01 Oct 2019 10:39:52
Hey let's go a step further here

To wash
Robert thomas

To st. louis
Connor mcmicheal and a cond 2nd round pick any time if thomas ever becomes a legit 1C washington gives them a 2nd rounder that draft after he becomes a 1C

Thomas for mcmicheal and picks happened in jr and guess what mcmicheal has already done better than thomas did as a 17 year old and is going to get 100 points this year as a 18 year old. By redwing1 logic mcmicheal is going to be a future 1C even more than thomas will because he has more points in jr.

01 Oct 2019 11:32:49
Once again blues say no. He was the driving force behind third line as a 19 year old. Kid is amazing. He is the reason maroon looked good. thomas did all the footwork. Once again blues say no. he is untouchable.

01 Oct 2019 17:57:04
Erik johnson, david perron and robbie fabbri

What do they all have in common with thomas?

During their first season starting as 19 year olds put up very simular stats. In fact fabbri and johnson put up better stats and yet johnson was a defencemen.

How did all heir futures work out.

Top 4 defencive defenceman, middle 6-9 forwads and barely making st. louis roster today. don't get your hopes up too much on thomas. He might if he is lucky mimic christian dvoreks career. Not a bad player but deffinetly not a #1C . dvorek was even better in jr sooooo.

01 Oct 2019 18:34:25
Casey middlestadt, sam reinhardt, sam bennett. more players who at 19 look as good or better than thomas.

Are any of these guys future #1C. if your answer is no then neither is thomas. simply put.

01 Oct 2019 18:35:27
Johnson is still number one in col

Fabbri blew his knee out twice.

Craigger these have nothing to do with each other lol good try though.

01 Oct 2019 20:02:05
Actually they do. These guys all at 19 played in nhl and put up better stats than thomas did. The differance is noone annoited them future#1 in their position. Johnson had future #1 potential due to his draft spot. The others not so much.

Youve got to realize not every player who makes nhl at 19 and did well in jr is a future #1. In fact every draft only ever gets 3-5 future #1 come true.

Thomas is and always has been projected as a #2 C by every scout. Heck coming out of jr he was tagged as a 3rd line C. He has worked his way into a top 6 player but not a #1C.

You say us leaf fans are delusional but at 18 our future #1 C cracked open a can of whoop on the league and became a stud from the get go. the leafs had got back to back 60 point seasons before turning 20 from a winger then even he exploded for 94 points before he turned 21. These are definitions of top players. Future #1C and top end winger talent is reserved for guys like these players. Saying we as leaf fans are delusional makes you delusional.

Thomas can't even lace up matthews skates so saying thomas is a future #1 C is disrespectful when Guys like matthews, aho, point are all 10 levels ahead of thomas and they did it at age 18-19.thats when they were future#1 C . by 20 they were #1C

Kyrou can barely get on the blues. Calling him a top end winger prospect is disrespectful to guys like marner, laine, tkachuk, rantanen, connor. guys who all before 20 were dubbed the next wave of high end wingers. By 20 they were high end wingers. if kyrou was so high end why is he considered an older prospect and hadnt done a thing. delusion is coming from you.

01 Oct 2019 21:48:17
I love how you make rubbish up. Sure Mathews is better n2ver said he wasn't. I think it's amazing how much b's you wrote to try and prove you are not delusional. Please find me 1 scout who projected him at 2c or 3c. Also how is Mathews cup coming lol.

01 Oct 2019 22:02:56
Also kyrou is recovering from surgery. Kyrou is better than bracco and a year younger why hasn't bracco made the team lol. Craigger don't you ever change.

02 Oct 2019 02:32:30
Were you a different account before Craigger?

02 Oct 2019 09:58:10
Ive never said that bracco is the next future #1 guy. He got lost in the leafs depth at RW. He can pass but isn't fast can't play defence but has good edges. He would do good if put with one of matthew or tavares and is a waste as a 3rd or 4th liner due to he doesn't play D. Once marner signed his future with the leafs was badically over. He is a point a game player in the AHL and might do better this year but its probably in best interest of the leafs to deal him with another player to make a quantity for quality kind of deal.

I can see the good and the things players need to work on to be effective hockey players. You won't ever see me annoiting them titles that in reality they can't become. that's a lot of pressure to put on a kid. The sooner you learn to the realization of what you have now the less youll be disappointed in the future. Keep the scouting to those of us whom get paid to do it.

02 Oct 2019 12:03:33
Actually Craigger like I said in another post Point didn’t play in the NHL at 18 or 19. He’s a smaller player and was sent back to junior in hopes he’d fill out a bit. He put up 40 points as a 20 year old rookie playing mostly in the bottom 6, 66 as a middle 6 player at 21 and then broke 90 last year at 22. He was also pegged as a 3C outta the draft and didn’t get credit as a potential 1C until he was there. Not saying Thomas is a future 1C but especially for smaller players it can take longer and there isn’t one path to follow to get there. Point is just one example that not lighting the league in fire at 18-19 doesn’t mean you won’t be a top player.

02 Oct 2019 12:27:42
If u watched Thomas play you would know he carried the line he was on. I will leave it alone but when he breaks out this year I will rub it in your face craigger.

02 Oct 2019 12:49:58
thats my point. Thomas isn't pegged as a future #1C. Point was never pegged as a future #1C because scouts and analysts don't just throw that term out. If you work hard and keep at er you may become a #1C but just because you become a #1C doesn't mean you were pegged that from the beginning.

people around here need to know the differance. Future#1C are reserved for top 10 picks. anything under top 10 need to work hard and earn that title later in their lives. If a top 10 doesn't become a #1C like he was pegged then they start to become a bust.

Thomas was never pegged a furutre #1C. he may become it with a lot of hard work and luck but he isn't pegged that. Point was never pegged a #1C out of the draft but he became a top line guy due to his work ethic.

02 Oct 2019 13:51:54
you know what let Thomas be the future #1C in stlouis.
If you want him to be your future at that position that just means noone better than him will be on the team at that position meaning every NHL club will take advantage of a guy who is best suited for 2nd line C

Personally if i were a Blues fan i'd want him to be the future #2C because I would really hope the #1C is better than Robert Thomas.

Have it your way.

02 Oct 2019 15:12:39
Dude seriously get over your self. The kid at 19 was amazing. At 20 is on the top 10p of the Stanley cup defending team. The same team that beat leafs twice. He has won two one championships won the geetzky award in the oil. Was a huge part in Canadian winning gold. And is is tremendous two center. The kid was pegged as a 1c. Top ten in drafts don't hold that solely the fact that you said that is asinine. I get it you got Mathews good for you. A 1c position consists of 30 players at that title. Some are elite some are great some are above average but they are 1cs the fact that you think a 19 year old or 20 year old is the peak of performance or if you don't perform crazy good then your a. Hat is just crazy. You need to just admit you are wrong.

02 Oct 2019 15:26:47
Colt, you’re overvaluing your player again. Just like Shattenkirk and Lehtera. He’s a good player but imagine if he wasn’t a STL Blue, GTD you wouldn’t be sucking him off like this. It’s crazy.

02 Oct 2019 16:29:41
If I believed Robert Thomas was at his peak performance than i'd be saying he is the future #4C for St. Louis. I've never once said Thomas isn't good. I simply think he is the future #2C for Stlouis. I know that's tough for you to read but take it.

Yes, Thomas won the Gretzky award but so did many before him. McDavid, Marner, Hall and Perry are the best of the winners. More than half those winners ended up role players or AHL players. i'm glad you pulled it up for your argument it shows me you can argue with facts.

We odviously differ on what our take on a true future#1C is and that's fine. personally i'd hope my future #1C is a stud in every level he plays in and dominates the NHL from the get go but hey if you want a marginal star player as your future #1C I say have it. its your right to think anything you want

Unfortunatly due to this being an opinion on the what future#1C means to ourselves there really is no wrong or right answer.

You continue throwing that title out to everyone you deem worthy (st. louis prospects and every prospect going to the leafs in a leaf trade) and ill continue to judge prospects at a much much higher standard.

Go Cardinals!

02 Oct 2019 16:49:06
Id like to also add that championships seem to follow robert Thomas wherever he goes. that's an amazing feat

Robert Thomas for future captain seems more logical than future #1C
to me, anyways.

02 Oct 2019 17:33:59
Well in the same aspect till. You disbarraged my opinion on parayko as well. How did that turn out for you. I see Thomas as a great 70 80 or two way planning center. A great 1c for this team. As for sucking him off. Till you should have watched him play all the announcers and analyst during the playoffs all had grst things to say. I get it you have a personal thing against me. Just admit I was right about parayko and if I'm wrong about Thomas I will say as much also. I remember saying schenn at 1c was a goid thing and being beat up by that as well. It's col everyone had their opinion. We will see if my floats or sinks.

02 Oct 2019 17:44:39
Ive never said anything bad about Parayko. He is a beast and any team or anyone would be foolish not to agree. Pie and Colton are gems in the backend. Parayko would of been a 1st rounder if he played in the WHL for 1 season.

02 Oct 2019 17:57:30
also, comparing one player to another doesn't demean just how good the player you are comparing any.

Parayko and Pietroangelo had rough starts to the season last season but once redwing1 pointed out the coaching change I forgot about it was apparent Yeo was the problem. Once Yeo left Colton and Pie both drove their advanced stats up very high. Overall their season last year didn't look amazing but if you take their stats from January through the playoffs they both looked top 10 D in the NHL for sure.

02 Oct 2019 18:10:03
Look this is my final thought. Thomas was amazing last year and improved greatly as the year went on. He started with limited time and ended up being the driving force on the third line. No all players with high ceilings come into the league tear it up. Kucherov had 18 points in 52 games when he was 20. Different strokes for different folks. I believe (many others do as well), That Thomas is going to shine this year. We shall see.

As far as this trade prop. No one on this board would do it. Thomas.

02 Oct 2019 18:41:09
if you would of lead with this instead of all the future #1C mumbo jumbo you were writing then the topic would of been closed a day ago. but then again, what would of been the fun with that?

02 Oct 2019 22:24:25
The parayko thing was aimed at yupp.

As for the 1c he is going to be one we will see after t gis year and I have no problem admitting when I am wromg.

03 Oct 2019 06:10:10
Didn’t you think Parayko would be a Norris winner? He’s not near that caliber, yet. I’ve always liked him and haven’t ever had a problem with Parayko.
But your shatttenkirk value was so off you had to leave hear and come back as a different name man.
And your homer biased Lehtera views were Efin laughable. Both those proven so so so wrong man.
Parayko is a stud! I love him and his game! Always have. Not a Norris caliber D man but he’s awesome! You were sucking him off so hard before he was on anyone’s radar as even just a good D man!
Dude, You being the most homer guy in the site for a while, Shattu being traded for SO much less than you screaming he would return, Then leaving, coming back as a rivals name months later, Is so efin funny. You should be so embarrassed. Like come on man.

03 Oct 2019 12:34:27
i heard somewhere that redwing1 use to walk around the St. Louis arenaand streets with a sign saying
"Lehtera best passer in the league for MVP"

Phillys GM saw this guy and was very intrigued so he pulled the trigger
Braydon Schenn for Lehtera and #27 in 2017 draft

Lets hope for phillys sake Morgan Frost turns out to be something. The more the years drag on looks like St. Louis got Schenn and a stanley cup for nothing.

Well done redwing1 way to hook and sink Philly into that deal. Your overhyping of a player got Philly Schenn (bravo, bravo)

03 Oct 2019 13:33:30
**meant got st. louis schenn**.



Log In or Register to post

Remember me

Forgot Pass