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23 Mar 2020 14:03:11
2020 1st




2020 1st (Vegas)

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23 Mar 2020 14:54:22
I don't think Vegas would want to get mixed up with Marner's contract. They'd be moving from a slightly unbalanced team to an extremely unbalanced team, similar to the Leafs.

There's nothing in the other offer that would entice the Ducks to even take a look at that offer.

23 Mar 2020 17:16:28
Leafs won’t trade Marner they’d just buyout Tavares or Mathews before moving the best player in the history of their Franchise and Manson might’ve been a bottom 5 worst Dman in the NHL last season why is he so overrated yes he’s physical but he was awful last year his value is probably a 2nd.

23 Mar 2020 17:51:56
Nothing in that offer the Ducks would want for Manson? Your way off in Mansons value if I had to guess.

23 Mar 2020 18:39:19
From what I've heard the Ducks are looking for top 6 forward help. So, the first would be nice, but I don't think they would be interested in a 4th line forward and an okay defensive prospect. I think they'd rather go after someone who at least has top 6 potential. So, not much there really interesting for them.

Trades usually aren't just piling up stuff until you have enough value like NHL 20. You usually have to address team needs.

23 Mar 2020 20:54:25
I’m not sure what there needs are so it might not be the perfect pieces for them but the value is enough they probably couldn’t say no to the offer.

24 Mar 2020 01:47:04
2 first round pick, a young middle 6 forward on a great contract ( basically another 1st ) and a decent prospect for a 4th defenceman coming off two awful season.

How about Vesalianen, Lowry, Stanley and 1st for Manson?

24 Mar 2020 15:31:10
You can tell memarcusjoe doesn't watch much hockey or he would know Manson is crap and not worth anywhere near those players. His assessment on the Leafs players is way off. Obviously a comment made from total ignorance and lack of respect for another teams players.

25 Mar 2020 16:26:13
memarcusjoe this has gone on long enough. You are undervaluing leafs players to the point where you think they are all worth nothing. You obviously have not looked at any stats this years and are going off of stats from 2 years ago.

Manson is an okay defenceman but he has no offensive output and his contract says top 4 guy. He is a bottom pairing guy at best. Not even worth half of that package.

25 Mar 2020 17:13:34
themostleaf, where did I de-value a Leaf player? All I said was that the Ducks are looking to add top 6 help, no top 6 help was offered by the Leafs in this proposal. Hence my saying there is nothing interesting for the Ducks.

It has nothing to do with what Manson is worth. Teams don't move players just because they are getting equal value. They trade players for guys that address team needs or wants.

It doesn't make the Leaf players bad just because they don't address the Ducks needs. It just makes them unneeded by the Ducks and there's nothing wrong with that. Sometimes there just isn't a fit.

25 Mar 2020 19:09:20
I’ll teach you a life lesson Memarcus let’s say Manson is a shinny dime the ducks really like and they’re trying to save up for a dollar. Andreas Johnsson is a dime obviously Anaheim likes their own dime so they keep there's ( Manson ) but then the leafs say how about we add 2 quarters ( 1st and Liligren ) and well add a nickel on top of that ( Bracco ) now if someone asks would you rather have 65 cents or 10 cents. No matter how shinny the Dime is you take the 65 cents. Also if you knew anything about the ducks their biggest need is RHD prospects for their rebuild which Lilijgren is.

25 Mar 2020 19:55:51
I would agree except that you value the Leaf players way too high. If Manson is a dime. Then a 25 year old, run of the mill 4th liner (Johnsson) is maybe a nickle, probably less. The first would be a dime, a nothing special defense prospect (Liljegren) is a dime. A 23 year old, career AHL'er, that every team has 3 or 4 of is pretty much worthless.

If their biggest need is RHD, why on earth would they trade one? So, again nothing there really makes it worth their while.

There's a life lesson for you.

28 Mar 2020 02:05:58
Johnsson is not a 4th liner he’s on the leafs 1st line and would make any teams 3rd.

28 Mar 2020 18:16:11
Manson doesn't get you top 6 help bud.

30 Mar 2020 04:53:08
lmfao, can i just point something out

mansons a dime: 10 cents

johnssons less than a nicel: 4 cents
the first is a dime: 10 cents
liljegrens a dime: 10 cents
braccos worthless: 0 cents

so trade 24 cents for 10 cents @memarcus?

your analogy just seems, off, lmao.

30 Mar 2020 18:05:43
This trade WILL NEVER HAPPEN because Marner WILL NOT be traded. Dubas didn't go through the whole summer of 2019 trying to resign him just to flip him for a pick to be used to acquire a 28 year old RHD, even if they're recovering some assets with Marchessault and Hague. If the first scenario was to provide cap space, I'd suggest Nylander is the more likely RW to be moved, and Kapanen much more likely to be moved before either WN or MM.

IMO Johnson is the detractor here, he puts up points on Auston's line but due to injuries we've yet to see enough of him on the ice to suggest he would develop into a top 6. Kapanen MIGHT be of interest to Anaheim now that they've traded Kase, but then again Anaheim could look to other teams for a better offer in a 1 for 1 trade for Manson instead of waiting for Liljegren and Bracco to further develop.

When you factor in that the salary cap is increasing next season and Toronto will have some flexibility once Horton and Clarkson's contracts are off the books, I'm 200% sure these trades would never happen.

Thanks for the laugh about "if I have 50 cents you're telling me you wouldn't trade me a dime for it? "



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